CIA Declassifies Pages From Their Cookbook 119
AngryNick writes "The Washington Post reports today on the declassification of some of the CIA's oldest secrets: Do you want to open sealed envelopes without getting caught? According to one of the six oldest classified documents in possession of the Central Intelligence Agency: 'Mix 5 drams copper acetol arsenate. 3 ounces acetone and add 1 pint amyl alcohol (fusil-oil). Heat in water bath — steam rising will dissolve the sealing material of its mucilage, wax or oil.... Do not inhale fumes.'"
But...but... (Score:2)
what if I've got nasal congestion? This stuff ought to eat through that lickety-split if I inhale the fumes, right?
Useful for something (Score:3)
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Just yesterday I became aware that people drink (or inhale the vapor of) a infusion made of VHS videotapes to get high. It's been a long time since I laughed so much... with ideas like that we can confirm that there are no bounds on human stupidity.
[Warning: VHS tea may cause cancer or metal poisoning, take it only if you are completely retarded and want to kill that lonely neuron of yours.]
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I love how Darwinism is wiping out all the idiot teenagers.
Keep doing stupid shit to get high kids... It makes the world better for the ones that are not so stupid.
Re:Useful for something (Score:5, Insightful)
All teenagers are idiots. Most adults are, too. The ones who survive into adulthood are merely the lucky ones, and it's hit and miss as to which ones grow out of their stupidity.
Ideas of social Darwinism are for morons.
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All of evolution is luck. Consistent luck is just another term for skill.
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wow (Score:3)
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The only one who has figured it all out is Oliver Stone. Yep.
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We have top men working on it now.
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Yup, openness and transparency. That's the CIA's motto. "No, we don't know anything about that". If you can't trust them to tell everyone the whole truth, who can you trust?
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More likely they don't want to give a heads up to other fledgling or small-scale intelligence operations.
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Hey, MI-6 recently released the fact that semen was used as a secret invisible ink. I just wanna see the CIA show them up. How about breast milk booby trap bombs? Cause I know "booby trap" is somehow related. The truth is out there!
jCola (Score:2)
You don't make bombs with breast milk. Everybody knows it's the secret sweetener of jCola!
...laura
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It must be true ; I saw it on Slashdot a couple of months ago.
The English are notorious wankers. (Score:3)
Give them credit for turning lemons into lemonade.
At least they weren't 'colonized by wankers'.
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Rumor is he's dead. Uh, which Kennedy are we talking about? Never mind. He's dead too.
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Make a better use of the search function (Score:2)
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Then you probably would have to wait forever (minus a day).
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I'm pretty sure the duration of that one is "When hell freezes over" +100 years.
Invisible ink (Score:3)
That one I learned as a kid: either orange juice or sugar dissolved in water makes invisible ink. Heat the paper with a clothes iron to develop.
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Re:Invisible ink (Score:5, Funny)
Ah, so that's why people say "come again" when they didn't get the message the first time.
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Then perhaps Mata Hari [wikipedia.org] was not a spy after all. The secret ink found in her room which was used as evidence against her could have been left by one of her lovers.
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WWI documents are not CIA (Score:2, Informative)
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But they were classified and kept by the CIA. The documents themselves (1 [cia.gov] 2 [cia.gov] 3 [cia.gov] 4 [cia.gov] 5 [cia.gov] 6 [cia.gov]) carry stamps keeping them exempt from declassification for dates as late at 1978 and 1989.
Some of the recipes in there, however, are as old as Julius Caesar.
Anarchist cookbook? (Score:3)
Mix 5 drams copper acetol arsenate. 3 ounces acetone and add 1 pint amyl alcohol (fusil-oil).
This is sounding like the "anarchist cookbook" which had made up recipes intended to blow up potential bombers rather than cooking up the real thing.
Right up there with "get high from banana peels"
You want a solvent for mucilage, try ethanol fumes. I have no idea how to test it because envelope manufacturers have not used biological mucilage for longer than I've been alive... Maybe a museum or an old relative has an envelope they'd let you mess with?
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I dunno, I think you give the guy who put the cookbook together a bit too much credit. If anything it was a collection that was put together from book learning and inexperience. Sure, anybody can look up the reaction and figure out how to make nitroglycerin. Doing it safely on the other hand isn't something that a lot of people (even some who did it) can speak to.
Getting high from banana peels is a perfect example. It wasn't new in the cookbook. It was a hoax printed in a Princeton newspaper. The author of
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But huffing cat urine is real, right?
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Have you read it? it goes into exactly what you need to do to maintain temperature and stability.
Bear in mind the idea was for someone in a house to do it, not a lab.
It's also a great book to read on the insight of the time.
People have forgotten, but we where right on the brink of a large violent revolution. Thanks to the FBI, it became a much calmer event.
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Actually I have only read some of the online versions, and some bits of the US Army Improvised Munitions Manual (1969) which probably provided a fair amount of source material.
I wish I had read the real book, always meant to check it out. Maybe that wasn't a good example but, I have heard many times this theory that it was intended to kill the people who tried it, and I just never bought it. It always seemed plausible enough that errors or bad procedures were more the result of lack of QA than actual malici
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Ive made nitroglycerine and its not that dangerous until you get to the unstable levels of concentration.
Low grade nitro that can take out a house by putting it in a nice sealed pressure cooker left on a fire in the basement? Easy as hell to do. I was 13 when I mixed my first batch of it. I made a small mason jar full of low grade stuff. a campfire in the wood to detonate it, 1 hour later it left a nice 6 foot crater where the campfire used to be. we spent the next 6 hours putting out small fires in
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The Anarchists' Cookbook had real recipes.
It's just that some stuff was left out, like... safety.
This was discussed here on Slashdot and if you read the packet of declassified docs relating to it, it was pretty well stated that sure, these are actual things you can do, but they might not quite work out as you plan.
"they" - meaning law enforcement, preferred you blow yourself up and draw attention to yourself instead of having to hunt down every PFY that downloaded the book off the local BBS at 1200 (or 300!
Re:Anarchist cookbook? (Score:5, Interesting)
"they" - meaning law enforcement, preferred you blow yourself up and draw attention to yourself instead of having to hunt down every PFY that downloaded the book off the local BBS at 1200 (or 300!) bps.
Many of the books called by the name "Anarchist's Cookbook" on old BBSs weren't the same as the print edition. Actually in the early-mid 90's I don't think I ever actually found a text version of the print edition on any local BBS (or Fido, or, later, telnet BBSs). If anything, most of the BBS versions were more dubious than the original. I remember reading how to make a "contact explosive" from iodine and ammonia, and pondering how the hell someone would do that without blowing themselves up or inhaling particularly nasty fumes. Some of them devoted tens of pages on stuffing match heads into tennis balls and calling it a "grenade"...
The 90's were a much simpler time. I supported myself through high school by selling print, and disk, copies of the BBS versions of the Anarchist Cookbook, and other "counterculture" literature to my fellow students. I think I charged like $10 for a print copy, and $5 for a floppy. These days I would have been expelled, arrested, and probably permanently black marked from ever having a successful life.
I also sold compilations of ways to extract drugs from ethnographic plants for awhile (most of which were probably completely innacurate and potentially harmful, in retrospect)...
I feel sorry for kids there days... Half the stuff I did in my youth would get someone into very deep water now.
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> I remember reading how to make a "contact explosive" from iodine and ammonia,
Made it, it worked. Had to play with the ratio a bit though to get the desired effect (I wanted throw downs, not sneeze and blow up...)
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I actually made some nitrogen tri-iodide at around age 15. I had gone to a summer camp for "gifted" students at a local college, and we had pretty free access to the chem lab. So, I and a buddy were able to get pure iodine crystals and concentrated ammonium hydroxide, which made it easy. You just dissolve the iodine in the NH4OH, filter the residue, and do whatever you want with it while it's wet. Once it dries, it's a very effective contact explosive. Great for painting on stair treads and doorknobs, or st
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He was the smart one. Another younger relative blew off four fingers playing with less powerful home made explosives some time in the 1960s. Some of the old chemistry textbooks were a lot more i
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I remember being very happy to be out of high school when Columbine happened. I was also very happy that our school had a very high nerd ratio, so we were never really bullied much or ostracized to the point where the less balanced of us were tempted to act out. Hell, in a certain sense we were even respected... which is very odd from all I've heard from other peoples experience of high school
Most of our tastes were pretty benign, we were more likely messing with computers than messing with potential expl
Please do inhale... (Score:3)
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My god just use pgp already.
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It seems he does, Pidgeon Get Parcel... Pidgeon Give Parcel.
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He said 'trusty', so I assume it's a pretty good pigeon.
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CIA Cookbook? (Score:5, Funny)
This recipe is terrible, and tastes like shit. Conclusion: The CIA's cooking sucks.
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Mix 5 drams copper acetol arsenate. 3 ounces acetone and add 1 pint amyl alcohol (fusil-oil). Heat in water bath â" steam rising will dissolve the sealing material of its mucilage, wax or oil.... Do not inhale fumes.
This recipe is terrible, and tastes like shit.
I knew it tasted bad, but had no idea that this is how shit tastes.
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Actually, you're right. Adding a couple of teaspoons of shit to this makes it taste better.
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Serve with the C4 recipe on the next page, and BAM! Kick it up a notch!
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Ehh, that recipe blows.
i tastes like shit to you? (Score:1)
it tastes like diesel to me
what kind of shit have you eaten that has an acetone bouquet and an arsenate metallic tang on the tongue?
although that yak shit i ate once near the supply depot did have a weird gasoline type perfume
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Culinary secrets? (Score:1)
CIA + Cookbook makes me think Culinary Institute of America. I was all ready for culinary secrets...
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transglutaminase
agar agar
lecithin
Those are the current high tech kitchen secrets. The 100 year old secret is "don't overcook anything".
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Pfft. (Score:2)
Geocaching technology is YEARS ahead of any of this stuff.
Why, I bet you can't even find the camoed ammo can hidden in this post!
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Geocaching technology is YEARS ahead of any of this stuff.
Why, I bet you can't even find the camoed ammo can hidden in this post!
Found it. Cleverly masked the 2x4 club as a thread post.
If it's been declassified, it's not useful anymore (Score:2)
A general rule of spooks . . . we'll tell you how we spied 100 years ago . . . but not how we do it today . . .
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A general rule of spooks . . . we'll tell you how we spied 100 years ago . . . but not how we do it today . . .
Except the principles of modern espionage go back hundreds if not thousands of years. Do you think brush-passes or dead drops were modern inventions? How about encryption and codes? While today's technology includes stuff spies could have only dreamed of 100 years ago, the fundamentals and basics are exactly the same.
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A general rule of spooks . . . we'll tell you how we spied 100 years ago . . . but not how we do it today . . .
The joke is not that this is public today - but that it was still considered worth keeping secret yesterday.
No, the real joke is (Score:2)
No, the real joke is on you. Why? Because the CIA and all other government and private (RIAA) acronyms can do today in plain sight and most importantly, legally what they had to do behind your back 50 years ago.
I did not know (Score:1)
that the Culinary Institute of America had classified cookbooks.
CIA's Cooking (Score:5, Funny)
Is awesome! [ciachef.edu]
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This CIA (Culinary Institute of America) used to be in New Haven. Maybe this explains why so many Bulldogs became spooks.
Chili? (Score:2)
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I think you misspelled Chile. They can bring the gov't to a boil and add a pinch of Pinochet. But it makes a mess in the kitchen.
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Mix a democracy with a dash of pro-US dissenters
Bring to a boil
Remove president when flavor suited to taste
Add one whole dictator
Simmer for 30 years
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Lose the oil and start with some bacon instead.
Use 1/2 or more venison if available.
Marjoram, Oregano and nutmeg? Out.
Lose water, add beer.
You need many more chili peppers. One? Beef stew.
Add a chunk (or more) of baking chocolate when done cooking.
It is debatable, I like some beans in my chili. Black beans
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Chili pepper is a broad category that includes many mild peppers.
Now this is a major disappointment (Score:2)
I thought we were finally going to get the cookbook the blind folks who work at the CIA snack stand in Langley use. Total gyp.
To serve U.S. ? (Score:2)
LOL at our stupid government (Score:2)
All of them are re: the recipe for the GERMANSâ(TM) invisible ink in WWI (samples, methods for detecting, etc.). What ârecent advancement in techâ(TM) suddenly made this no longer secret?
Notice that theyâ(TM)re stamped âoeExempt from automatic declassificationâ in 1978. In 1999, the agency rejected a Freedom of Information Act request to release the six documents, asserting that doing so âoecould be expected to damage the national security.â Really?
I recognize as w
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Lets see...
apostrophe â(TM) ' ...
dash â', â", â", â
ellipsis â¦,
guillemets  Â
quotation marks ( â â(TM), âoe â )
slash/stroke ( / )
And of course, I have to add enough text here to avoid the lameness filter, which said "Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!
Filter error: Please use fewer 'junk' characters. " So if I were to write a few lines about the wonders of how Slashdot does not yet support UTF-8 (still), except on
cia and cookbook? think poughkeepsie: (Score:2)
http://www.ciachef.edu/admissions/newyork/ [ciachef.edu]
Shouldn't have declassified that (Score:2)
It works on RSA too.
Paging Michael Weston... (Score:2)
Oh, come on! I'm a regular viewer of Burn Notice. [wikipedia.org] What's the CIA going to tell me that I don't already know?
I wonder? (Score:2)