Chinese Internet Addiction Boot Camp Prison Break 177
UgLyPuNk writes "A group of inmates at the Huai'an Internet Addiction Treatment Centre decided they'd had enough of the 'monotonous work and intensive training.' Working together, they tied their duty supervisor to his bed and made a run for it. The 14 patients, aged from 15 to 22, hailed a taxi to take them to a nearby town — but were uncovered when the driver took them to the police station instead, suspicious of the identically dressed young men who were unable to pay the fare."
First post! (Score:5, Funny)
First I escaped Slashdot Addiction Camp, and now this! What a perfect day.
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Hitroll--
Aspartame isn't going to do it. It takes high fructose corn syrup [mayoclinic.com] and the consciousness of a pigeon to really do the job.
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'monotonous work and intensive training' (Score:5, Insightful)
Instead of playing WoW, are they just living it now?
Re:'monotonous work and intensive training' (Score:5, Funny)
Using inmates at an internet-addiction boot camp as slave labor for your WoW gold-farming business...
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that's such a brilliant idea that I would be surprised if it hasn't already happened.
Re:'monotonous work and intensive training' (Score:4, Funny)
that's such a brilliant idea that I would be surprised if it hasn't already happened.
Perhaps Jeff Bezos will try to patent that too!
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that's such a brilliant idea that I would be surprised if it hasn't already happened.
Perhaps Jeff Bezos will try to patent that too!
[Nod]
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Using inmates at an internet-addiction boot camp as slave labor for your WoW gold-farming business...
Don't forget about the Pokéwalkers chained.. I mean strapped to their legs.
Re:'monotonous work and intensive training' (Score:4, Funny)
They'll want to chop off their own hands and gouge out their eyes before using a computer again.
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Instead of playing WoW, are they just living it now?
But on a good monitor, WoW has got better resolution than the real world!
(appologies to Philip J. Fry)
Re:'monotonous work and intensive training' (Score:4, Funny)
The dude is a multi-billionaire and gets to use the "I was the first man on Mars" line at every club he walks into. He deserves no apologies for any of us regular losers.
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gets to use the "I was the first man on Mars" line at every club he walks into.
Man, I get to use that line whenever I walk into a club too. If you're using it, and it's not working, then you're just not talking to women who are dumb or drunk enough.
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I think this is great -- they have learned teamwork from their online adventures.
Bootcamp gave them the social skills.
Combined it became a succesful prison break.
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Combined it became a succesful prison break.
Except the getting caught part.
Re:'monotonous work and intensive training' (Score:5, Funny)
24800 experience for escaping from the prison warden, they get to keep their clothes and choose between steel handcuffs or plastic ties!
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So you have to play for several weeks realtime before it gets fun? Sounds great. :P
I know China is crowded (Score:5, Interesting)
but shouldn't 14 people in a single cab still be considered somewhat suspicious on it's own?
Re:I know China is crowded (Score:5, Funny)
Not really. People training for the clown car trick typically practice in China.
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but shouldn't 14 people in a single cab still be considered somewhat suspicious on it's own?
Not really. People training for the clown car trick typically practice in China.
I think it was a bike, and those 14 kids were probably wearing orange suits. [webshots.com]
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Like this?
Mcfryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! YOU'RE FIRED!!!! [ketzer.com]
Oh wait, that guy was Japanese. Never mind.
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No, what was suspicious was that they weren't making Yankees shirts or iPod clones in the back seat.
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In the Caribbean, route taxis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BdsZRNov95.jpg/ [wikipedia.org]) carry 20 people inside, plus driver, plus conductor.
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In the Caribbean, route taxis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BdsZRNov95.jpg/ [wikipedia.org]) carry 20 people inside, plus driver, plus conductor.
How many of those 20 are in the orchestra?
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Reeeeroy Jenkiiiiiins (Score:4, Funny)
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Suffice to say I'm muttering under my breath the solo song by Kim Jong Il in Team America. These kids must have felt the same way.
Hurra! (Score:5, Funny)
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Achievement Unlocked: "Prison Break"!
Achievement Unlocked: Return to Sender
Punishment? (Score:4, Interesting)
Lat time I read about it was how some "patients" were beaten to death. One wonders what will happen to escapees ...
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I was thinking the same thing. It's a really sick world. I also have crystal meth addiction but I'm not bothering anybody and don't have nagging parents telling me to get off the ice. I remembered when I was young I had my pipe taken away (parents thought that the pipe was the meth), little did they know I had a few spare pipes under the bed. Up all night in HS sleeping during class, but know what I still got A's. People are different, just because someone behaves different than the others you shouldn't loc
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McGuyverism Triumphs Again (Score:5, Funny)
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It's even easier than that.
Kids escape "help centre", dutiful cab driver takes them to authority. Harmony is restored.
The spin is easy on this, it's probably why we're hearing about it.
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I know that I am supposed to think "Oh wow, they have internet addiction camps, how horrible" though... how is that any different from "Vice" laws here in the US? We punish Vice too, just different ones.
-Steve
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There are plenty of "teen boot camps" you can send listless kids to in the USA.
Same concept, different culture. The difference might be that after such an event in the US there would be some kind of investigation or public inquiry.
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The State, a nominally accountable entity, does so, after due process of law. Who recourse do these detainees - some of whom are adults - have when they are kidnapped and abused by a private enterprise?
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Abuse is abuse, regardless of who does it or how much process they put around it. I see little to no difference here. Vice is vice and punishing vice is punishing vice. Its wrong no matter who does it, and wrong no matter how many people vote for it, its wrong no matter how many silly people in silly blue costumes and black robe costumes decide it must be done.
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If I'm tracking you right, you're arguing (in a vague and unfocused way) against the criminalization of "vices". Implicit in this is that "vice" means "stuff I like to do and should be allowed to do if it weren't for those stupid prude sheep criminalizing it."
Every crime represents something someone would like to do. Otherwise, you wouldn't legislate against it. So every outlawed act is depriving SOMEONE of the "right" to do something.
Perhaps you're thinking of something more nuanced, like the old argument
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Well the problem with having a somewhat nuanced and non-mainstream ideology is, that its very hard to talk about a lot of issues without going into a long diatribe about basic values and ideas and well... nobody wants to do that in every single conversation just to get a point across.
I am almost, but not quite, a pacifist. Not really, I fully believe in self defense, and the defense of others (who want to be defended, certainly if you jump in the middle of a boxing match to 'defend' someone you are not a he
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Harmony? Isn't that a planet? Somewhere in the same sector as Tranquility?
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Re:McGuyverism Triumphs Again (Score:5, Funny)
Expect the chinese government to spin this into a positive light for their work camp by "teaching teamwork and on-the-fly improvisational skills".
Also, since they didn't beat up the cab driver, steal his cab, take it for a joy ride and kill a hooker with a baseball bat it's clearly proof that these camps are combatting video game addiction too...
Good way to show you don't have a problem (Score:2, Funny)
So, people claim that these kids ain't addicted or have a problem. But they assault their supervisor and have one most of the most ill out escape plans in history. Really, what was their destination going to be? Home? Their parents send them there. No money. Well HOW ABOUT WALKING THEN? No, lets hail a cab (more likely a bus service with 14 people but I guess Americans never heard of public transport) with no money in camouflage gear...
The Three Stooges could not have done it better.
This does for the proo
mod points (Score:5, Funny)
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I wanted to mod you up, but there's no option for "drug induced rambling."
No I think he needs an exorcist.
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Really, what was their destination going to be? Home?
You don't know?
Seriously, man. Use your brain a little bit.
That's absolutely obvious.
The nearest Internet cafe.
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This place has been in the news before after they tortured a kid to death. I'm sure the only thing these guys were thinking was "get the fuck away".
Age 15-22? (Score:3, Interesting)
What's the age of [whateveritscalled] in China? i.e. Why do over 16/18 (?) year olds need to "escape"? Pressure from the government, or parents, or honour, or something else?
Re:Age 15-22? (Score:5, Insightful)
What's the age of [whateveritscalled] in China? i.e. Why do over 16/18 (?) year olds need to "escape"? Pressure from the government, or parents, or honour, or something else?
I think the word your looking for is "oppression", and the answer is "any".
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What's the age of [whateveritscalled] in China? i.e. Why do over 16/18 (?) year olds need to "escape"? Pressure from the government, or parents, or honour, or something else?
There are adults in rehab facilities in America. Not for Internet addiction, but drugs, alcohol, sex, and other things. In many cases, it's an involuntary commitment.
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You can call a regime what you want, it doesn't make it a follower of such
Uh... 22 years old? (Score:4, Interesting)
So, in China, you can pay a private firm to kidnap, lock up and abuse an adult, and if they escape, then the police will return them to the kidnappers?
So, do you just get to pick any adult, and is there a menu for the particular abuse that you want them to be subjected to? The mind boggles at the possibilities.
22, 28, what does the number have to do with it? (Score:4, Interesting)
Sorry, but 22 can be a child as can 28, well dependent or child take your choice.
Like any law we have here, it opens doors for new expansion to other laws basing some of their rules on previous. Recently health care laws were changed to designate that adults up to 28 are dependents to their parents if so chosen. How is this different than the story in China? Someone is paying to put these children/adults/dependents into these camps to get them back on the road to a productive life. Reading the article the government seems to support their usage but I cannot tell if they pay the costs.
Your really reading far too much into the story. China already locks up who it wants so your scenario exists in the standard method - government oppression. This story is about parents or guardians voluntarily placing dependents into the care of a business whose job is to correct behavior. We have those in the US too. No need to tin foil hat this.
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Uh, legal adulthood? I live in a civilised country, not China or the US, so I'm not sure why you think pointing out equally nobbed up US laws would be a compelling argument.
You're really reading far too little into the story. The (alleged) motivations behind the kidnappers is a strawman - would you support Scientology's right to kidnap, hold and abuse adults in order to "correct behaviour"? What matters is that victims are being held against their will by
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You laid out the problem perfectly while blowing completely past it:
If the legal age of adulthood is 18, and the legal age for dependants gets increased above 18, and the parents want them to be dependants (so they can exert control) and the 18 year old wants to be an adult... What happens?
Essentially, all it would take to get out of this prison would to be to claim your adulthood.
However, its in China, and not in America. But if they had similar laws, that would be a problem.
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Yeah, I think you're missing a few key points.
"Recently health care laws were changed to designate that adults up to 28 are dependents to their parents if so chosen."
At a minimum, you're playing fast and loose with the definition of "dependent" and glossing over the fact that a person cannot be coerced into dependent status at that age.
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Saying that "Parents can choose to leave their kids on their Health Care plan until they are 28" is nowhere near the same as saying that kids are legal dependents of their parents until they are 28. An 18 year old is legally an adult in all ways that matter. They are not allowed to drink and gamble in some jurisdictions, but those are considered additional privileges above and beyond majority (stupid in my opinion, but legally and logically defensible). At the age of 18 you can choose to do whatever you
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You are either deliberately or ignorantly misunderstanding what makes someone an adult in our society. The health care law provides parents and children the options of continuing a voluntary dependency past the age of 18. If the parents chose not to pay for a (adult) child's health care, or the (adult) child chooses not to accept the parent's health care (either because they have better or simply want to be "independent") they may do so. This may result in the (adult) child being fined when the mandatory
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Recently health care laws were changed to designate that adults up to 28 are dependents to their parents if so chosen.
I'm pretty sure you can't just chose to have a 28-year-old be your dependent. There's usually some sort of requirement that they actually be dependent on you, such as living in your household. The reason that you can have a dependent that's over 18 (and therefore legally an adult) is that most college students, and many recent graduates, do not yet have enough income to establish their own household.
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Just Like Oldboy (Score:2)
So, in China, you can pay a private firm to kidnap, lock up and abuse an adult ...
Huh, you know, it's funny, until your post I have never associated this with Park Chan-Wook's OldBoy [wikipedia.org] (South Korean film).
That's where they differ -- even the demented revenge plot of Oldboy couldn't dream that up.
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Compared to civilized countries like the U.S. where you can only pay a private firm to kidnap, lock up and abuse children.
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You think "free market" means no regulations? What color is the sky in your world? It takes a lot of carefully aligned laws and regulations to create a free market.
Great Idea! (Score:2)
So does this mean death for them? (Score:2)
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So I kind of wonder what will be the punishment for this act?
You are forced to play Barbie Horse Adventures for 14 hours a day.
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I helped my niece play this game, getting her through some of the parts that were frustrating her. Five minutes would have been more than enough.
A Clockwork Orange (Score:3, Funny)
I imagine a boot camp with scenes reminiscent of the conditioning in "A Clockwork Orange".
No! No! No!, not Ludwig Von.....
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"von" in German denoted nobility at the time. The Dutch "van" in Beethoven's name did not, however he tricked the Austrian courts during his custody battle for his nephew, Karl, into thinking he was born from nobility and tried the case in a court for noblemen.
He later let it slip that he wasn't nobly born and the case was transferred.
video games are an escape from reality (Score:5, Interesting)
and considering the reality of china, where the state treats everyone like a slave, i can understand why so many in china would be addicted to video games. i would be too if i lived in china
there exists in china the lives of the rich in the coastal cities, who are able to afford some degree of freedom
but for the rest of the country, the majority, you have some sort of nightmare where the worst excesses of communist authoritarianism combine with completely unbridled capitalist rapaciousness, to produce a distinctly modern chinese breed of hell on earth for the poor in china. the state has no problem abusing you and propagandizing you, and the corporations have no problem working you like a mule, and will bribe the corrupt state authorities to get away with it
it really is not surprising that some workers are committing suicide in flocks:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-08/foxconn-says-personal-issues-not-wages-led-workers-to-suicide.html [businessweek.com]
modern china is a brutal corporatist authoritarian nightmare, the worst of communism and capitalism, mushed together as a hybrid schizophrenic hell
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Somewhat verbose. Modern China is joining the industrial revolution [wikipedia.org], just a couple of hundred years late to the party. It's not like what's happening there is unprecedented.
oh really? (Score:3, Interesting)
did Victorian England have legions of party workers censoring every little post on internet forums and tracking those who were too uppity? did Victorian England have absolute authority and control over the media?
the industrial revolution gave birth to communism and capitalism in its modern forms. China has adopted the modern forms of communism and capitalism, and then went through the industrial revolution. Combine that with a throughly Chinese obsession with learned bureaucratic efficiency (it's not hard t
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I think you're distorting the picture a little bit. What you describe is true, and in the way that you describe, but not to quite that extent. You say that the majority of Chinese are becoming slaves. My wife's family consists of peasants, mixed with professionals who's parents were peasants. To some extent they are slaves, but they were slaves before, and in many ways its getting better. Moreover in a few ways they actually have more freedom than Americans. Money worship appears to be getting worse i
as long as china considers human rights (Score:2)
so unimportant, you can have all of the financial growth you want, but people's quality of life won't improve (except if you are rich)
the giant irony is that the communist party (in name only) is recreating the social conditions which led the revolution which created it in the first place. if the average guy on the street has no rights, i don't care how hypercapitalist you are, all of that pursuit of profit just means there will be a few more rich in shanghai
either china delivers on real improvement in peop
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Are you Chinese? If not, do you actually know very many Chinese people? Your world seems somehow theoretical.
There are far more than a "few more" rich people in China. A very large portion of the country is richer, even while a very large part is still impoverished.
Do you actually know what Chinese people want? Very few I've met think the way you do about human rights. To some extent that's their tragedy, for the reasons that you outline, but its not as if the system they live in has been imposed by an
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Video games can provide an escape from reality. They can also be a unique tool for understanding the world.
These two statements are also true of any media you can name, or which will ever be invented -- books, magazines, newspapers, movies, music, theater, dance, whatever.
i used to be addicted to civilization 4 (Score:3, Interesting)
the interbalance in the game between military strength, economic strength, strategic resources, domestic tranquility, and scientific research is compelling and "can also be a unique tool for understanding the world" as you say
that being said, i was a fucking addict. its hard to say the same thing about books and magazines. the timesuck represented by the "just one more turn" impulse, and watching the sun rise when you thought it was evening: that's addiction, and its dangerous, and its real
stop making excus
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considering the reality of china, where the state treats everyone like a slave
Please, stop. Just stop. Don't post about China any more because you have Z-E-R-O idea what you're talking about. The state does not treat everyone as a slave.
distinctly modern chinese breed of hell on earth for the poor
Oh, come ON. Things are better in China, for everyone, than ANY TIME IN THE FIVE THOUSAND YEARS OF CHINA'S HISTORY. Ever since Deng Xiaoping hijacked the people's revolution onto the capitalist road, eve
thank you for supporting the regime (Score:2)
assuming you are posting from china, try criticizing it for once
oh you wouldn't dare would you? what would happen to you if you criticized the regime politically from within china?
but ignore me, i'm obviously just a propagandized westerner
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Really.... (Score:2)
Am i missing something here?
I may be off topic, but is not the whole point of this to get them OFF the internet...
you would think after treatment, just stay off the internet, then you get out, no?
If the treatment is for 1 month, bide your time, then leave for good behavior then
almost become like a secret agent, using the internet only when you really need to...at a friends house etc...
not to alarm your parents....I think it is more about disciplinary action...i do feel badly for the kids though if there
is a
Yellow Cab (Score:2)
chinese children are sheltered by parents (Score:3, Insightful)
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Even in many parts of Asia without a one-child policy, culture (and also some economic factors) often dictates that 3 generations (parent, child, grandchild) live under one roof.
Where is the work addiction camp? foxconn fatoy? (Score:2)
Where is the work addiction camp? foxconn factory? no wait that is slave camp.
22 year old = reeducation camp? Does posting some (Score:2)
22 year old = reeducation camp? Does posting some stuff on line that china does not like make you end up in a camp like this.
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You kinky bugger
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(Yes, I know the video wasn't really shot in China.)
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Or some seriously emaciated people.