Digsby IM Client Quietly Installs Badware 259
An anonymous reader writes "IM company Digsby has quietly included malware in an update to their client software that utilizes users' computing power and bandwidth while idle for a quick buck. When questioned, developers at Digsby claim that they have done no wrong and that users should not complain because the client software is 'free.'" The money-making distributed computing software is in addition to six "crapware" apps that users must refuse during installation. The terms of service that no one ever reads does describe the CPU- and bandwidth-robbing moneymaker, and its off switch is located behind the "Support Digsby" menu item.
You get what you pay for... and then some more. (Score:0, Insightful)
It's not free if it's not open source.
Free or not... (Score:5, Insightful)
This is part of the bargain - if you give away something for "free" and advertise it as "free", it needs to be "free" - as in not just that the costs are hidden. Otherwise, it really is a Trojan Horse.
Don't reap the goodwill of the public when you're secretly using them.
Re:Nuisance of free software (Score:5, Insightful)
If you've paid for your software, you can usually [expect] that they wont fuck you over with that crap
So why are there ads in some PC games that cost over fifty bucks to buy?
It Would Be A Bad Thing (Score:5, Insightful)
... if someone were to hack the malware. It would be very bad if they changed it so it downloaded copyrighted stuff, say whole CDs of recent music, to Digsby's machines, and then sent email to RIAA saying it's there. It would be a very, very bad thing indeed if this were then redistributed and thousands of unsuspecting people installed it and remained unsuspecting as the usually do, while it did its job then erased itself, because otherwise it would have been a Simply Awful very, very bad thing.
Re:Use Pidgin ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Agreed, and in the meantime, let them know why nobody is going to use their IM Client anymore.
bugs@digsby.com
http://forum.digsby.com/ [digsby.com]
Due diligence (Score:2, Insightful)
Here's your problem:
In other words, they told you about it in documentation you agreed to and said your read but didn't. This sounds kind of familiar. I think it is because of all the people I have heard say "I didn't know that was in the contract. I signed it but didn't read it. You know, just like all those people with the "sub-prime" adjustable rate mortgages that ballooned after 2 years.
It is called due diligence and everyone should practice it, not just lawyers and businesses.
Badware? (Score:4, Insightful)
users should not complain (Score:5, Insightful)
users should not complain because the client software is 'free.'
A malware spreader saying this is like a person who knowingly spreads HIV saying his victims shouldn't complain because they got sex for free. I was going to say "rapist" but digsby doesn't install via drive-by download.
Re:Due diligence (Score:3, Insightful)
There is such a thing as a reasonable expectation of the program's functionality. You can't legally put "if you do 100mph for 10 minutes, then a hidden bomb in the tank explodes" in a car rental contract, and neither can you legally add unrelated stealth functions to a program just because you said so in the ToS.
Re:Nuisance of free software (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Nuisance of free software (Score:5, Insightful)
Bullshit, they'd cost the same as they ever did except they figured out they could add ads for just about nothing and increase their profit margins even more.
If you really believe that in-game advertisements subsidize the cost of games then you really are ignorant.
Re:N ot free (Score:5, Insightful)
Laptop users also get less battery life.
Re:Due diligence (Score:5, Insightful)
And, as one person who replied to you also pointed out, if this was done via an automatic update without you clicking through to agree with a new EULA stating this, they're in trouble.
Re:Due diligence (Score:4, Insightful)
As for the sub-prime adjustable rate mortgages that ballooned after 2 years... The number of people that didn't know EXACTLY what they were getting is so small as to be irrelevant. People getting sub-prime ARMs just let greed get in their way and made the stupid prediction that housing prices would always increase dramatically faster than inflation. Of course some people got 3 of them, and when the short term housing price increase happened, they massively mortgaged two of them, put the money into the third, and when prices dropped, they cried that they didn't understand as they walked away from the two massively mortgaged houses with the third being free.
Re:Due diligence (Score:1, Insightful)
I think more people have a beef with the fact that they weren't up front about how to turn it off until now...heck I used to use it and I had no idea either.
Re:Nuisance of free software (Score:5, Insightful)
Am I missing something? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Terms of Service (Score:4, Insightful)
How many people do you know that actually ready the TOS before they purchase the product?
How many products do you know, that have a TOS you can read before purchasing?
They were caught doing this before... Nothing new. (Score:3, Insightful)
They were caught doing this before, so much that users made a big stink on their forums and they had to respond with a public statement. Apparently they havent learned their lesson.
Then again its probably the only way they can stay in business so they'll do whatever it takes to make some money.
Either way... I dont care. I dont use the software. I did install it recently while looking for an alternative to pidgin.... I now regret that greatly.