Bing Gets Porn Domain To Filter Explicit Content 200
sopssa writes "Bing has set up a separate domain just for porn images and videos. '[The] general manager of Microsoft Bing said in a blog post that potentially explicit images and video content now will be coming from one separate domain — explicit.bing.net. 'This is invisible to the end customer, but allows for filtering of that content by domain which makes it much easier for customers at all levels to block this content regardless of what the SafeSearch settings might be.' When Bing was first launched, there was some online chatter about explicit images popping up when videos were 'previewed' in the search results. This means the thumbnails and videos are served from that domain, allowing easy filter of them in corporate and school networks. Users still normally use www.bing.com. Instead of heavily filtering the results, this is quite a good move."
Awesome! (Score:5, Funny)
I'm tired of non-explicit images ruining my Google searches!
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This is invisible to the end customer, but allows for filtering of that content by domain which makes it much easier for customers at all levels to block this content regardless of what the SafeSearch settings might be.
So I'm guessing one level of costumers is ISPs and governments.
Re:Awesome! (Score:5, Funny)
Most pornography contains people not wearing their costumes.
Microsoft blows it again (Score:5, Funny)
explicit.bing.net?
They should have gone with bada.bing.net.
Hrmmm (Score:4, Insightful)
Is the reverse possible? I.e. explicit content only??!! :)
just use booble (Score:5, Informative)
go to booble.com
Re:just use booble (Score:5, Informative)
On your advice, I just tried booble. I have to say, it's complete rubbish. For each search I tried, all the hits on the first page were advertising, and none of them were even advertising anything remotely related to what I searched for. If you're using a search engine, you want relevant results - not just random advertising.
Re:just use booble (Score:4, Funny)
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Use greasemonkey/AdBlock to remove all images from bing.com but whitelist explicit.bing.com? At least that would save you some bandwidth in downloading non-explicit content.
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There, fixed that for you.
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Well, there is already PornTube, PornoTube, YouPorn, RedTube, XTube, etc etc...
(shamefully posting as AC)
Re:Hrmmm (Score:5, Informative)
Just tried it - explicit.bing.com gives you SFW and NSFW - using that domain is just like saying "switch off safe search". AFAICT, there's no "unsafe search" option.
Re:Hrmmm (Score:5, Informative)
There's one of those for Google here [monzy.org].
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Speaking of which: the results pages on the Google Image part of that site use a script to show full-size images when you click on a thumbnail. Unfortunately, the script also triggers when you Ctrl-click (in Firefox, to load the link into a new tab) and even when you right-click.
Is there a way to defeat this script?
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Have to look deeper into it, but it looks like the gallery page is generated by the javascript itself, so an outright block won't do it.
It seems to be running lightbox [huddletogether.com]
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I was wrong. The lightbox script overlays the annoying-click gallery over the existing one, so adblocking lightbox.js makes it work as one might expect.
To be or not to be... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Vista & Mohave! (Score:2)
I'll bite!
Ya see, my anthro class sponsored a field trip to the Mohave desert. You should have SEEN the Vista! I'm tellin' ya, you ain't seen nuthin' until you checked out a desert sunset headed into a full moon.
Then it was time to set up our water filtering equipment. Can kernels of corn grow in desert conditions...
Oh wait... you wanted an *exact phrase* search for Windows Vista? Oops, sorry.
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I'll bite!
Ya see, my anthro class sponsored a field trip to the Mohave desert. You should have SEEN the Vista! I'm tellin' ya, you ain't seen nuthin' until you checked out a desert sunset headed into a full moon.
Then it was time to set up our water filtering equipment. Can kernels of corn grow in desert conditions...
[snip]
Were you looking out of a window? Or multiple Windoze?
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Get off my lawn!
How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? (Score:5, Funny)
That would be an interesting job. Microsoft Smut Engineer. Wait, I think that's what they already call MS Office developers...
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Re: Details on MS products (Score:5, Insightful)
Come on gang, forget the snark below his post, this guy has a piece of the puzzle right! MS can lever the threat to "accidentally" label polka spotted portions of the web as "explicit" while daring the global web community to figure it out!
While he's funny with the MS-product side, they can accept payments to label ANYTHING as explicit! Wheee!!
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They could put that on taiwan.bing.cn, or www.bing.tw
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Exactly. There is no difference between "heavy filtering of results" and results that are explicit coming from a separate domain. All that means is that it makes it easier on your end to filter the explicit.bing.com. Who decides what is explicit? Microsoft. What if you don't agree with them? What if you are the owner of that content? Is there a resolution process? Do you have to sue them? Can you sue them?
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Next domains to be built:
democracy.bing.com
dissent.bing.com
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Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? (Score:4, Funny)
The easiest way is using the "keywords" META tag which I'm sure is used by most explicit sites to self-identify.
Except that goatse won't do that.
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I remember seeing a demo at COMDEX that was designed to do exactly that, in 2000. It did false on swimsuits, but not much else.
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"I doubt computer vision has reached the stage when it's easy to identify a nude."
Or even more so; even a human can't sometimes tell the difference between a guy and a gal, until it's too late and your excitement is ruined.
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Nudes? Please, have some ambition [yangsky.com]!
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Well, laugh all you want, but where I work (our company does search.... kinda...) we have this position :) At least some sort of it.
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Oh yes, they have worked out a cross-certification deal with /b/ residents, please expect official papers to arrive via certified post any day now.
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Heh. I've actually done this; not for Microsoft, but another search company (for a _real_ search company, one might say to get in a cheap shot ;)
It's actually not nearly as much fun as it sounds. At some point, your soul just feels dirty -- it's not just porn; depending on the strength of the filter, you could also be looking for drugs, innuendo (OK, I really like the innuendo...), hate sites, etc. Hate sites are the worst.
While blocking the domai
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I'm guessing their definition is something like "Well, no one's buying the whole bing thing, so put up whatever porn will get people there."
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For a geek website, we don't get nearly enough calculus jokes.
One hell of a statement (Score:4, Funny)
"Microsoft is never done when it comes to providing tools to help customers, whether they are large enterprises, local school districts or parents" - Mike Nichols, general manager of Microsoft Bing.
Never done.
Yep, sounds informative.
j.
Fear of MS Bob Hope *grips* Google (Score:5, Funny)
Microsoft today heeded the lessons of technological history, taking the popular "preview porn videos in the search engine" feature and turning its Bob Hope search engine [today.com] into a porn finder at the address explicit.bobhope.microsoft.com.
"It worked for VHS over Beta, porn sites were leading innovators in online payments. It's a natural synergy," said Steve Ballmer, looking somewhat sweaty and flushed.
Porn sites are some of the keenest users of Microsoft technologies, using the undocumented interfaces in Internet Explorer to install helpful toolbars and bulk email tools on users' systems. "It's all about tools. Developers, developers, developers, developers!"
Windows 7 final will include a "boot straight into porn" mode. "We found that was what users really wanted in an operating system." It will include the Storm, Conficker and FBI botnets as standard. "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em."
Mr Ballmer promised that Microsoft will, as always, deliver. "Unlike porn sites, we don't just tease — we really will fuck you. Totally."
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Windows 7 final will include a "boot straight into porn" mode.
Finally! A new Windows feature that is actually useful.
good idea (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:good idea (Score:5, Informative)
This Bing change won't help with that.
I don't expect that the image or video results you get with Bing vs Google at any preferred level of "safe search" filtering are much different, and that's not going to change with this announcement.
All the Bing change does, rather belatedly, is stop overriding parental controls (Open DNS, Net Nanny, etc) that would block porn domains. What happens up until now is that Bing self-hosts all it's image/video thumbnails from it's own servers - porn included - and starts to play these thumbnail videos automatically - direct from Microsoft's servers - when you mouseover them. Since the videos are coming from a Microsoft domain rather than a porn domain, parental porn filters are bypassed.
All the Bing change does is to move Microsoft's porn video reviews from bing.com to microsofts-hard-core-porn-server.bing.com so that Open DNS, Net Nanny, etc can once again be used to block this stuff.
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Re:good idea (Score:4, Informative)
Yep - this is just the thumbnails on the Bing search results page.
Re:good idea (Score:5, Insightful)
[...] Bing self-hosts all it's image/video thumbnails from it's own servers - porn included - and starts to play these thumbnail videos automatically - direct from Microsoft's servers - when you mouseover them. Since the videos are coming from a Microsoft domain rather than a porn domain, parental porn filters are bypassed.
All the Bing change does is to move Microsoft's porn video reviews from bing.com to microsofts-hard-core-porn-server.bing.com so that Open DNS, Net Nanny, etc can once again be used to block this stuff.
When are they going to be sued for copyright infringement then?
It can't be long now surely. Everyone go and search bing for RIAA managed songs on video. Perhaps we can get these snakes to simultaneously eat each other??!
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I am still suprised that Microsoft hasnt gotten into the p2p file sharing arena. Its the sort of thing they could dominate rather easily via simple bundling, and I dont even think the RIAA would consider going after them. Just make it gnutella-like with no central tracker and winning against it will be quite difficult because of the deep pocket effect.
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http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/groove/FX100487641033.aspx [microsoft.com]
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lol
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That site now exists, and the content isn't half bad.
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I hate it when I type pretty much anything in for an image search in google and I end up with porn. Okay when I'm at home but when I'm at work ... not so cool.
My advice: spell check before you submit 'pretty much anal thing'. I've never had porn results whe searching for images on google yet...
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Re:good idea (Score:4, Informative)
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A nuclear blaster can point both ways (Score:2)
I guess they found a much more lucrative application for parental controls.
I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... (Score:5, Funny)
Well, in this context, in my experience more a domsubain... I mean, or so I heard.
(ok, it's lame, but this asked for a BDSM joke and I coudn't come up with a better one)
Re:I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... (Score:5, Funny)
With jokes like that, you must really be strapped for cash ;)
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Re:I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... (Score:4, Funny)
The question is, are any images like the ones in your brain available on Bing right now?
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Oh, god, horrible mental images. My brain just kind of fused the parent, GP, and GGP into one *thing* and got a dominatrix with a strap on making her sub beat off a dead horse. I need to go bleach my brain now.
Don't knock it. If they ever invent a way to hook an inkjet printer right to your brain, you can make a lot of cash with those images!
What's that called? SNEP? (Score:2)
Sadonecroequinophilia?
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That's quite a mouthful.
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That's quite a mouthful.
... aaaaannnnd we're right back to the strap-on.
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http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/saturday.png [explosm.net]
Re:I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... (Score:5, Funny)
You think an MCSE could tell the difference?
PR Stroke of Genius! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:PR Stroke of Genius! (Score:4, Funny)
When I first read about this yesterday my gut reaction was to immediatly go to bing and search for porn (after turning off the filtering of course)...
Marketing Genius....long live the porn providers!!!
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normal Bing and xXx Bing
Must be a Vin Diesel thing.
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What a way to get into the hearts and hands of millions of users worldwide!
An adolescent obsession with porn seems to be one of the defining qualities of the geek.
Playing against the stereotype can be very profitable. Case in point: The Wii and the hard-core gamer.
Google already came up with a better way (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Google already came up with a better way (Score:5, Informative)
That works great for individual users. This is -not- meant for individuals. This is meant for companies, schools, etc. You can block that domain at your firewall/proxy/dns/whatever and make -sure- none of your users see it, no matter what settings they choose.
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Yes it would.. I quite agree with Microsoft's idea, it's a good one. Much better than analysing URLs / cookies etc. to detect the Safesearch status.
How is that better? (Score:3, Interesting)
You can either filter on a sophisticated ruleset te detect what you describe, or you can block one host in one domain (the same domain of 'bing.com', just a different host record within it....)
It's good that google accommodated the need, but just because Google did it one way and MS did it another that Google's way must be better (by better, this would mean easier).
It would help to have the flaws in MS's approach actually described and how Google's overcomes it.
Surreal (Score:3, Insightful)
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Maybe it is, or maybe it isn't. But this thread had nothing to do with censorship. We're talking about a private web site run by a business. They are under absolutely no obligation to show, index, or communicate anything in a particular way. Serving the thumbnails off of a separate domain doesn't censor anything. It changes nothing unless you take some extra step yourself to block traffic coming from that domain. Regardless, it's not the government, there's no f
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I expect the "explicitometer" is just the same exact same none/moderate/strict classification that both Google and Bing's "Safe Search" preferences offer.
This change by Bing isn't some big brother restriction on your porn viewing... it's just coming closer** to honoring your wishes by not allowing you to view porn sites that you, yourself, have already chosen to block via Open DNS, Net Nanny or whatever!
** Of course, you can still see Microsoft hosted thumbnails (incl. videos) from sites that you've chosen
As a net admin for a school.... (Score:4, Informative)
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I will feel much better about allowing access to bing.com for our students now.
It's interesting that your post is modded "funny". Evidentally many on slashdot that have read your post do not understand the terrible parent that school administrators have to deal with. If porn did get through, I could see your mug on a bunch of news sites... "school lets kids look at porn..." You have to clamp down, in your case, or parents would just eat you alive!
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Fact is, its not up to him, its just his job to enforce the restrictions passed down to him by his employer.
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Enjoy porn and their bodies in a classroom?
how to block adult web sites (Score:3, Interesting)
They gave it the wrong name!! (Score:5, Funny)
Instead of explicit.bing.com it should have been bada.bing.com
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> Instead of explicit.bing.com it should have been bada.bing.com
Or shark.chandler.bing.com
Schwing? (Score:2)
Got nothin'
Linux filter and interesting suggestions (Score:4, Interesting)
linux
linux windows
linux microsoft
linux vista
linux commands
while google suggests:
linuxtoday
linux
linux commands
linux mint
linux download
Already seems a little jaded.
same here :) (Score:2)
"linux windows, linux microsoft, linux vista"
Yet more Microsoft search innovation. It is patently obvious that 'search' is a weapon in directing people to websites that Microsoft want you to go to ..
Doesn't really solve the problem... (Score:4, Insightful)
...if you search for "best loan insurance" and you get tons of broken images. Clever.
"explicit": what dumb word (Score:2)
"Explicit" is an even stupider way to describe porn than "graphic" is, because it always applies to way more than what you really mean. If you mean porn, then say "porn."
It always amused me when music albums used to come with an "parental advisory: explicit lyrics" warning; they might as well have just said, "look out, this album isn't all just instrumental" or "warning: not much abstract symbolism, the writer actually knows how to write."
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I don't understand. Could you be more explicit?
(Bow-chikka-wow-wow.)
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BadAnalogyGuy has gone to ground after being outed as a Scientologist. But if he should contact you, offering a free personality test, firmly refuse him.
Thanks, but you don't have to worry. I have no personality.
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It would surely have amused - but not surprised - Orwell to hear cries of "Thoughtcrime!" raised when a real crime is being prosecuted.
I'd wager that is actually Microsofts main intended user, not individuals/concerned parents. Microsoft: the only halfway innovative technologies they ever come up with are tools of repression.
This is just too much.
But you got it half right.
If you want to control the user, you don't begin with the client, you begin with the server.
The network. The
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Hand up. They have a goldmine of content that could feed a great pr0n site.