Big Swedish Filesharing Server Seized 423
SmugJerk writes "Authorities are continuing to apply pressure on Sweden's filesharing community amid the trial of several principals of The Pirate Bay filesharing site. Today they seized a fileserver containing about 65 terabytes of files, corresponding to around 16,000 full-length movies."
Note the spin... (Score:5, Insightful)
The same spin doctors that run the drug war are now being employed in the Imaginary Property war.
BTW. Despite the word association games the article plays, there is no comparison between a server containing 65TB of files and Pirate Bay, as Pirate Bay doesn't contain any copyrighted information that isn't supposed to be there.
Re:Note the spin... (Score:5, Insightful)
Pretty much. Law enforcement always does this by putting the drugs in dollar figures. "1 million dollars worth of cocaine" sounds much more impressive than 2 kilos of powder.
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Yes,
"The street value of the movies seized in this raid was estimated at 800 trillion dollars. According to the RIAA, for every movie shared on The Pirate Bay, seven film studio executives commit suicide, and twenty-three copyright lawyers buy Jaguars."
Can we get pictures of the brave Swedish Authorities who conducted this dangerous pre-dawn raid?
Re:Note the spin... (Score:5, Funny)
i have been smoking for 20 years and manage to keep my job, keep my family in going at a very decent standard
Although, apparently, the tar has leaked into your keyboard and broken your shift key.
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And apparently TheRaven64, You are so desperate for some way to discredit the fact that potheads can lead normal happy productive lives that you will grasp at any straw to do so.
Sad really.
I didn't realise toking was so bad for your sense of humor!
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Interesting. Is that what Wall Street economists do as well?
Speaking of, if you're buying cocaine, please, for the sake of our economy, buy US-made stuff. Doing Mexican cocaine is unpatriotic.
"Unless you're Mexican, you insensitive clod"?
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But is it cheaper than printer ink?
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Not quite. According to Wikipedia 1 liter of ink is about $3000, 30 kg is 30 L of water so 30 L would be about $60000 if ink has the same density than water. Of course quoted cocaine prices are for the US. 1M of coke in other parts of the world gives you much more substance. 1 kilo of coke can cost $1800 in Colombia (wholesale) but cost over $30000 in NYC. So by those standards coke CAN be cheaper than ink (don't sniff the paper)
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Re:Note the spin... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:There goes the weekend (Score:5, Interesting)
No what am I going to do? I've got every mp3 in existance! I've got all color movies ever released, and then some. But now what? And don't say I'm stealing because I'd never buy any of this shit anyway.
It's like that philosophy riddle: If a movie is copied in the woods and nobody watches it, was it copied?
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I wonder how many minutes it took for another server to put the same material back on line. Heck, it could be a challenge. We could get it down to a how many seconds type of contest.
This simply emphasises the need to have servers in different nations so that law enforcement remains ineffective in regard to copying software, movies and music.
Re:Note the spin... (Score:4, Funny)
The same spin doctors that run the drug war are now being employed in the Imaginary Property war.
"Mister Threepwood, it is MY experience that there are only two kinds of pirates: Those who are committing acts of wanton savagery, and those PLANNING to commit acts of wanton savagery!"
- Admiral Ricardo Luigi Pierre M'Benga Chang Nehru O'Hara Casaba the Third, Monkey Island 4.
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Soon you'll be wearing my sword like a shish kebab!
Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:5, Informative)
The filesharing server is giving out the content. The Pirate Bay does not.
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So, you think people should be convicted for opening a door? or maybe just installing a door?
If there wasn't a door the bank robber couldn't get away! or in for that matter.
We can't convict people for setting up a web-site or hosting torrentfiles (linking to illegal AND legal content). The persons hosting TPB are not the one committing the crime.
It would be more like convicting someone who owns the paper where an advert for the door above (which was used in the bank-robbery). Insane.
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:5, Insightful)
It's more like they installed an automatic door opener, even though they knew some people would use that to escape the bank after robbing it. I mean, the Pirate Bay founders are nice guys I'm sure, but they aren't going to hold the door open for millions of people, it's far easier to remove human involvement from the process.
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:5, Insightful)
A "torrent distribution license?"
Are you fucking kidding me?
Fuck that, I don't want the state anymore in my life then it already is.
You're basically advocating censorship with that approach; that is exactly how it would be used.
In addition to being disgusting from a pro liberty standpoint, that sort of centralized control is antithetic to the entire point of the technology.
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So is what you were getting at more like (to use an analogy) "dolphin safe tuna?" You know, you can feel good about buying this tuna because we didn't kill dolphins? But it would be more like "Feel free to download, this is an "artist safe download" and it has an MD5 to verify or something?
If that is what you're talking about then that's not as bad as what I was envisioning they way I read your post, but I also have to say that voluntary licensing programs can become mandatory and it seems like that is the
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:4, Interesting)
I like your analogy; however, it needs to be extended a bit. The bank (RIAA) has built their vault (secure media) in the middle of your home (computer), however, they refuse to pay rent; in fact they even charge you (DVD license fees) for the irritation of having their vault taking up space (cycles) in your home.
They left a big hole in their vault (the analogue hole; various other holes) and now you are responsible for posting guards on that hole (make sure you don't file share their files). If you don't, then the police will come and get you (no analogy needed).
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes they are aware the robbery is happening. They always post there responses (which I think are funny btw) to letters addressing them them about these problems.
They know it is going on. It has been brought to their attention. They permit it to go on.
They are involved in the transaction to some extent.
I never said file sharing is robbery.
Taking a creative work. Ripping it or recording it and distributing it to others without the permission of the creator is.
and everyone should do what they can to protect the creative works and the artists.
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You're right, they don't care. They shouldn't care. And I'll believe you when (assuming you live in the US since you can watch Hulu) you start allowing Swedish laws to take precedence over American laws in your day to day life.
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah I think they are taking the right steps.
Hopefully a solution will be found that is fair for everyone. It just is hard to see people download and distribute content that they don't have permission to do so and believe it is their right to do so.
That is actually scarier than most people on here realize.
When medical records go digital who's to say our medical records aren't fair game for distribution. I mean it's just files. It's just digital copies.
I do worry about future generations also.
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:4, Insightful)
If someone makes your medical records publically available, is your first thought going to be "Oh no, now my files are going to be spread everywhere by those dastardly file sharers because they don't respect my private files" or is it going to be "WHY THE FUCK ARE MY MEDICAL RECORDS PUBLICALLY AVAILABLE!?!?"
Maybe you see medical records as being equivalent to MP3s, since they're both files...but medical records contain private information trusted in the hands of professionals, where they should remain encrypted with strictly controlled access, while MP3s contain audio that's regularly streamed over the radio and blasted out of boomboxes, sold to even the most irresponsible kid for pocket change. Definitely not private and with practically zero access control.
Your comparison is mind-bogglingly asinine.
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:4, Informative)
The artistic works are private believe it or not. They are available for public consumption but are still private.
See this is where the line got blurred/skewed.
You give your doctor your medical records
Producers give a distributor their film to distribute.
The doctor gives your medical records to a specialist with your permission to view it under the pretense that they don't replicate it and distribute it.
Distributors give the producers work to a consumer under the pretense that they will not
replicate and distribute it.
The parallel is there.
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:4, Insightful)
But the act of aiding and enabling those who commit a crime to do so does make them liable.
As far as I know, copyright infringement is not a crime yet in any country.
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The argument that "We don't host the files so we are not at fault" is extremely weak.
Indeed. Kinda like the argument that gun sellers only sell the guns, the don't fire them, is extremely weak.
All media should be free. Okay done.. now if all media is free than all software should be free. okay done. Now all services and products should be free okay done.
This is what's known as a non-sequitur.
If we were to make all media free it would in effect kill the fish, in this case big media, and if we were to
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:5, Interesting)
Are you liable?
No.
Yes.
Same goes with them. The moment they create the site allowed indexing and a search bar they became personally responsible.
So Google is "personally responsible" for everything it indexes ?
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:4, Insightful)
Let's say you are a gun seller, and you have so many people that want to buy guns from you that you have no time to do a background check on all of them.
Speaking as someone who had a valid federal firearms dealer license for many, many years, I can promise everyone that you have no clue what you are talking about. If you sell a gun without submitting for the background check, you lose your license, period. The gun dealer doesn't do the background check, the BATF does, along with assistance from local police. (Long guns require a quick check, 1 to 24 hours, hand guns require the waiting period and a permit) This isn't new, this passed as the Brady Bill many years ago. You can't even sell personally owned guns that you had in your posession before you were licensed to someone.
Getting the license takes many months, a lot of fees, a background check by the FBI and being fingerprinted. Most dealers are not stupid enough to risk their license because "business is good".
And if you did sell a gun to someone without a permit, then they used it in a crime, then yes, you are liable (both in criminal and civil courts) and can spend time in prison, rightfully so.
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:4, Insightful)
First of all, it's done. Filesharing is here to stay. There is no better example of wack-a-mole. You get rid of Napster, Kazaa, and Suprnova, but there are still more networks than I care to type that are healthy. It is -not- going away through litigation. Period. Sorry RIAA.
Despite this fact the music industry is still alive! 10 years since Napster and I haven't seen any Atlantic executive begging for change on a street corner! The members of Metallica still own mansions! Go figure! Your apocalyptic claims are simply unfounded.
Even if by some miracle every brick and mortar record/movie store ceased to exist, art still would exist. Are you familiar with the concept of an art college? I live in a city with a major one. The running joke is "I went to smart school, not art school" because you will not make money with a degree in fine arts. Sure, you can show your stuff at a gallery, someone may buy a few paintings, but you will also work in a coffee shop or some other lousy day job. Oddly enough, it doesn't deter people! People enjoy making art! Films would still exist. I think they may actually be better without someone who's sole concern is money overseeing their production. Example: I think Ze Frank's year long show was superior to The Daily Show at it's own game of leftist political comedy. No money involved. Good thing no one told him his fish was dead.
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:4, Interesting)
Art is eternal, but the means for Artists to make money is evaporating.
As you stated Art school people make less. They do have to take jobs unrelated to there passion. Why is that?
Because unfortunately there are very few ways for artists to make a decent living wage.
So why take away from the industry that helps artists make money?
Yes some people are still doing well, but there is a whole new generation that are still trying to figure out if it's even worth it at all to pursue.
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:5, Insightful)
I went to art school. I have made and sold artworks. You are so ignorant of reality it isn't funny.
Art is eternal, but the means for Artists to make money is evaporating.
No it isn't. If making money is their only concern then there are many other ways to do it, including commercial artist jobs.
As you stated Art school people make less. They do have to take jobs unrelated to there passion. Why is that?
So does pretty much everyone else, why is that? Also, how come you seem to be measuring a person's achievements by how much money they make? How vile is that?
Because unfortunately there are very few ways for artists to make a decent living wage.
Bullshit. Be good at what you do. Pursue whatever work you need to to pay the bills and continue with your artistic pursuits. And here's a hint for you, there are an aweful lot of non-artists who make shittier wages than the artists, most of the artists have at least some college under their belt. Artists used to have patrons, if all they wanted to do was artwork they found one.
So why take away from the industry that helps artists make money?
The only industry that helps artists make money is the one that manufactures the supplies they use. You severely misspelled "profits like a leech off an artist's hard work with no concern or care for the creations involved"
Yes some people are still doing well, but there is a whole new generation that are still trying to figure out if it's even worth it at all to pursue.
How is this different for ANYTHING else at any time? I'm sure at some point there were people wondering if it was worth it to go into buggywhip making, or take over the family ranch, or thousands of other professions that have waned throughout history. Try finding someone who hand-carves decorative stonework sometime, there used to be hundreds of them in any city.
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The argument that TPB is responsible for "killing big media" is extremely weak. In fact, you just asserted it without any proof. And even assuming for a minute that it was true, so what? Is doing something that makes "big media" unhappy a crime? If a new technology comes along that makes your industry obsolete, that's sad, but
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:5, Insightful)
What's your legal analysis? Where's the evidence? (Score:3, Insightful)
Please do tell us how you come to this conclusion with regard to Swedish copyright law. Nothing you described is a legal analysis, let alone a legal analysis that takes into account Swedish copyright law. Also, nothing you said accounts for another seizure that occurred before the conclusion of TPB's trial.
As for the analysis you did give, you don't account for how we would simply have diffe
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Well, you probably would mod down a nazi elaborating the need to exterminate jews, no matter what his arguments were.
We too systematically mod down copyright nazis whenever they elaborate the need to exterminate information exchange or on the internet and wet dream about large scale for-profit censorship and mass punishments of filesharers.
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not against information exchange.
Information:
1. knowledge communicated or received concerning a particular fact or circumstance; news: information concerning a crime.
2. knowledge gained through study, communication, research, instruction, etc.; factual data: His wealth of general information is amazing.
3. the act or fact of informing.
Keyword is knowledge. I don't ever want to limit your knowledge or understanding of the world.
Creative works are different.
This is something someone has created in hopes that others will enjoy it and at the artists discretion would like to be compensated for that enjoyment.
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I don't ever want to limit your knowledge or understanding of the world.
Creative works are different.
So, what you're saying is that there is nothing in any creative work that would in any way increase my knowledge or understanding of the world.
Well, then, I suppose we shouldn't have things like libraries and museums that look to preserve creative works for future generations.
How about we start with An Inconvenient Truth [climatecrisis.net] as the first thing that we make sure gets as little distribution as possible, because it has no information in it, being a "creative work". Yes, that's probably flamebait, but I'm trying
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:4, Insightful)
Aka, sure, the Nazis were bad, but logically there should be some middle ground.
You are really off base, and I'm not going to be nice about it. JRGhaddar's main point was that if people cannot be compensated for the time and resources put into producing music, software, movies, etc. then there will be a drastic decline in their production and quality.
;)
This has nothing to do with Jews being genocidally exterminated by the Nazis. When muuh-gnu (your great-great-great grandparent) brought up the subject of Nazis, it was to provide a thoughtful point against somebody who said, in general, not to mod down an idea just because you didn't agree with it. He never tried to equate copyright protections with Nazi Germany.
I doubt anybody would argue that we would have the same amazing creative projects* undertaken if everybody had to do them for almost free. That's a silly argument to make, and your parent says it is silly, too.
* This is not a chance to tell us what you think about the quality of today's music, movies, etc. Please stay on topic.
Re:Not like The Pirate Bay (Score:4, Insightful)
Yeah, just like Google is responsible for the content of the sites in their search index.
And TPB wouldn't? How could they refuse to do so, exactly? Have they been above the law? Untouchable by the police?
You are an industry shill, aren't you? I recognize those irrelevant, braindead arguments...
Without having RTFA... (Score:4, Insightful)
...and just assuming the summary isn't stupid, I'd say this was a good thing. 65 TB of files is... fucking huge.
THIS is what I understand when someone talks about piracy; a few individuals who move about large quantities of media content.
Now the big question would be whether they made money that way, which I assume they did. After all, how do you pay for a 65TB server with corresponding bandwidth?
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There's a concept of intent. If you do something to assist a crime, you're potentially an accessory. If you do something to prevent a crime you're helping the police.
I really don't see any inconsistency here.
Re:Without having RTFA... (Score:4, Interesting)
New defence for the Pirate Bay: We are only helping the police. We hyperlink in an effort to prevent a crime by pointing out those servers
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and presumably they should also be prosecuting the people who told them about the servers, since pointing to a server that you can infringe copyright at is also prosecutable.. or is it?
It is if you start to refer to doing so as 'verbal hyperlinking', then it becomes accessory to copyright infringement! yaay
Re:Without having RTFA... (Score:5, Insightful)
After all, how do you pay for a 65TB server with corresponding bandwidth?
How much is the "corresponding" bandwidth? Not sure what you mean by that phrase. I could afford a 65TB server without any difficulty. I don't need one, but we're not talking about something astonishing here. Less than I'm about to spend on roof repairs *grumble*
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Could you please take a moment to estimate how much bandwidth "corresponds" to 65TB of disk space?
Or is that the same "corresponding" as the one that resulted in "16,000 movies"? :P
Re:Without having RTFA... (Score:5, Insightful)
Why do you assume that just because you pay extortion like prices for internet where ever you are in the world that everyone else does the same? This is in Sweden, so he most likely has access to 100mbit connection for around $50 a month (if that pricey) with a truly unlimited plan.
Also 65TB while expensive, isn't that hard to build these days, usually you would do so by picking up server hardware from business going under and just fill them with cheap(er) hardware.
Re:Without having RTFA... (Score:5, Informative)
My 100Mbps (in reality 60Mbps down/20Mbps up) is baked into the rent whether I'd use it or not, so it's "free".
A quick google reveals that several housings in Brandbergen (Haninge, Stockholm) - where the hit was made - have a similar deal. It's fairly common here. So it might not even cost anything to have bandwidth enough to fileshare on a large scale.
Not that I know if "Scene" people actually fileshare on a large scale.
This is slashdot! (Score:2)
...and just assuming the summary isn't stupid
That's crazy talk!
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My suspicion comes here. What could the server have? 65TB isn't just a lot, it is a suspicious amount. Lets break it down.
Say he has 800,000songs he serves (around 7years solid of music) that is 4TB of space. And lets say the rest is videos. That is about 88,000 DVDs. That since movies began
Re:Without having RTFA... (Score:5, Informative)
65TB isn't 'fucking huge' in the world of the 'scene'. Take any movie that comes out, it goes through a couple release cycles. First you get the CAM, which is some dude in a theater with a video camera in his lap. So that's 700mb for the divx and 4gb for the DVD-R of that. Then the TC, another 4.7gb, R5 or DVDSCR: 4.7gb, retail rip: 4.7gb + 4gb for the PAL DVD-R. Then somebody releases a divx internal: 1.4gb and a dvd9: 9gb. Then it comes out on blu-ray and there's a 720p rip at 4gb and a 1080p rip at 9gb. That's almost 50gb for the full lifespan of a single movie release, not counting kids movies that often come out in language-specific versions.
TV shows are huge too. Approx 10gb of new TV shows were released yesterday in xvid and x264. That's the major shows - you could easily double it counting Discovery Channel shows, British TV, etc. It's like that, day in, day out.
Games and applications come in at 1-14gb/pop, including almost-monthly releases of windows xp, windows xp64, vista x86 and 64bit.
And remember, this is all spread out over multiple servers, multiple copies, etc.
The fact is that there is just an incredible amount of data out there being produced every single day.
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Since noone else seems to have explained this simple concept that's rather common in sweden it seems I'll have to do it.
In Sweden access to 100mb unlimited bandwith(or well technically it's usually 60 down 20 up but it's still unlimited) is rather common. So what people do is that they go together 5-20 people and chip in for an FTP server and put it in one of the persons with a good connection's house.
That way it's not horribly expensive for any of them but they all now got access to more file space then th
Re:Without having RTFA... (Score:5, Insightful)
But... 65TB... Assuming you watch 8 hours of movies per day, that would still add up to about 8 years of watching. Why could anyone possibly want that?
I've never heard a stamp collector writes more letters or postcards than average.
Surely many of us have seen how people do things because they can.
Re:Without having RTFA... (Score:5, Interesting)
I've never heard a stamp collector writes more letters or postcards than average.
Sorry to pour cold water on your analogy, but they do. I worked in Antarctica [gdargaud.net] where we have special and unique stamps. Collectors would send us packages full of envelopes to send back so they'd get the stamps and nice stamps on them. During the winterover (9 months with no outside communication, locked out by the ice), there was a full-time mailman who was there just to stamp the shitload of envelopes sent by those guys. It did pay one fifth of the cost of hiring the ship to go there in the first place !!! The nicest of those guys would put some gifts in their packages (like a bottle of wine).
"Corresponding"? (Score:5, Informative)
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Even if the statement is not true (and you offer no actual evidence it isn't), this exaggeration comes from Antpiratbyrån, not from the media.
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Re:"Corresponding"? (Score:4, Funny)
You're right. Internet discussion boards are rarely improved by the injection of factual evidence.
Re:"Corresponding"? (Score:5, Funny)
I'm going to internet meme hell for this comment aren't I?
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[citation needed]
I'm going to internet meme hell for this comment aren't I?
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You have arrived at your station.
Please use caution when exiting the conveyance.
Thanks for traveling Slashdot.
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Re:"Corresponding"? (Score:5, Insightful)
this exaggeration comes from Antpiratbyrån, not from the media.
Maybe, but when the article contains such gems as 'the server is part of an international pirate network called "The Scene,"', you have to conclude that the reporter isn't exactly familiar with the field he's writing about and probably barely understood a word of what was being said to him.
Re:"Corresponding"? (Score:5, Insightful)
Right. His level of technical knowledge is another reason why he's not exaggerating the figures himself -- he's just mindlessly regurgitating what the Swedish Anti-Piracy guy told him.
65 terabytes hey? (Score:5, Funny)
If 65 terabytes of porn has just been removed from the net it could very well be the largest tragedy that the internets have ever encountered. Just thinking of such a tragedy brings a tear to my eye.
Backup server, anyone?
Re:65 terabytes hey? (Score:5, Funny)
65TB of porn, that would amount to a massive 0,2 promille of all the internet porn. Morn this godforsaken day!
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It's not that bad. In the absence of porn the internet constantly creates and destroys virtual porn. This is called the Cashmere Sweater effect and... oh damn I meant to post this to another story. nm
Just like the Intrepid! (Score:5, Funny)
Gee, I guess that's why the one seeder of the torrent file I was downloading went offline. Strange, I shuddered with pain [startrek.com] when it happened, like 65 terabytes crying out in astonishement as the server died.
Torrent Freak (Score:4, Informative)
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"Peter Sunde of The Pirate Bay disagrees however. He says that more than 800,000 people have uploaded stuff to The Pirate Bay, and that it is unlikely to be the only source, but that it could possibly be a major source."
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You are wrong.
Top warez sites are never connected to P2P networks.
And you have to pay to access to such sites.
Also, it seems that the site was a huge archive, since most of the warez sites only handle a couple of months of releases.
BTW, shutting down a server won't change anything, since there are a lot of servers around the world, and they are not connected to each others.
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65 TB?!?! *gasp* (Score:5, Insightful)
Today they seized a fileserver containing about 65 terabytes of files, corresponding to around 16,000 full-length movies
65 terabytes of files? Storage space of that magnitude is unfathomable! How many full length movies would that be? 16000 you say? That is still too large for me to process. If I wrote down all the files in 1s and 0s, how many football fields would that occupy?
Every slashdot user can divide 65 TB by the size of a DVD. Unfortunately, full-length movies are NOT a standard measure of storage space. Least of all on slashdot in the context of file-sharing.
Cheers!
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65 terabytes of files? Storage space of that magnitude is unfathomable! How many full length movies would that be? 16000 you say? That is still too large for me to process. If I wrote down all the files in 1s and 0s, how many football fields would that occupy?
At the standard Moore's Law rate, if applied to storage, you'll be able to carry all that around in your pocket in 15 years.
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At the standard Moore's Law rate, if applied to storage, you'll be able to carry all that around in your pocket in 15 years.
And I thought my joke alluding to goatse was gross. This is just sick.
Re:65 TB?!?! *gasp* (Score:5, Funny)
If I wrote down all the files in 1s and 0s, how many football fields would that occupy?
Depends on the font size.
Re:65 TB?!?! *gasp* (Score:5, Funny)
16,000 movies? (Score:5, Funny)
That's very amazing. Movie technology has existed how long now? If we're very generous and round it up to 100 years, then the world must have produced 160 movies per year, or nearly one every two days, for there to be that many.
Gosh, the box office has been busy, hasn't it.
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A unit of scaremongering? (Score:2)
Actually they are being used as a unit of scaremongering [wikipedia.org], and a strange kind of filesharing that would be where one server holds every file in full, amounting to a total of 65 TB.
If they are talking about some FTPWelt.com [cebit.de] kind of pay-for-download archive, there seems to be something fishy (in particular at this point in time) about the purported link between TPB and an alleged über-Camorra known as -OMG, shiver me timbers- "The Scene".
Re:16,000 movies? (Score:5, Informative)
IMDb lists 438,664 theatrically released movies.
Source: IMDb statistics page [imdb.com]
Re:16,000 movies? (Score:5, Funny)
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Grandparent might have assumed that a Film has to be from one of the big Hollywood productions or it does not qualify.
If you look at netflix online movies they have 'only' 12,000 titles available, yet quite a few people (including my wife) think the selection is limited which is true since they have about 100,000 titles on DVD, most of it are American titles, and while their foreign selection is ok they miss a *lot* of things. I pretty sure that many countries produce more than 160 movies each every year, h
An international pirate network called 'The Scene' (Score:5, Funny)
What a well-organized network that must be to have such unmistakably identifiable persons (some even being computers!) among its membership under this absolutely new and unique trademark name. ;-)
Now where are the ships and home port of their evil "pirate" fleet?
Re:An international pirate network called 'The Sce (Score:5, Funny)
The pirates' naming convention was itself, pirated, from Monty Python's "The Piranha Brothers" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirahna_Brothers):
The server was associated with a pirate scene, which they called, "The Scene." They formed a gang, which they called "The Gang." They ran operations, known as "The Operation, The Other Operation, and The Other Other Operation."
After becoming bored with Monty Python, they pirated the name of their network ring from "Buffy", calling it "Sunnydale."
Definitely a pattern of pirate behaviour.
Whoopy do. (Score:2, Insightful)
Your aRrr Online. (Score:2)
"SmugJerk writes "Authorities are continuing to apply pressure on Sweden's filesharing community amid the trial of several principals of The Pirate Bay filesharing site. Today they seized a fileserver containing about 65 terabytes of files, corresponding to around 16,000 full-length movies."
OK so let me know when we get to the particular right that's being violated and I'll get excited. Otherwise it's business as usual around here.
65 terabytes? (Score:5, Funny)
65 terabytes? Shirley you don't need a full install of Vista just for a file server?
Come on... the "Libraries of Congress" gag has been done so it only left me with the "in Soviet Russia" line, "...profit" or generic Microsoft bashing. ;^P
Must have been (Score:3, Interesting)
one of these home file servers:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/313/1051313/ibm-steps-home-media-servers [theinquirer.net]
Stop spreading that false FUD (Score:5, Insightful)
Other than that:
There was not ONE server with 65TB but a "ring" of servers with "suspected" 65TB overall data. Police took down exactly one single server. All the other servers were shut down by the people running them so they could not be traced further.
[ENG] http://torrentfreak.com/large-pirate-topsite-raided-in-sweden-090306/ [torrentfreak.com]
[SWE] http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article4582094.ab [aftonbladet.se]
[ENG] http://www.thelocal.se/18050/20090306/ [thelocal.se]
Just the fact that they dub that "the biggest raid ever" is such a hilarious demonstration of how much they don't know.
"Ponten said the server ring had collapsed as a direct result of the raid." hahahaha
Did you mean, was redirected and pulled out of your sight? And even if it "collapsed" these are Gigabit sites, backup is easy and there is, well let me understate, definitely more than one of these.
Re: (Score:2, Informative)
... and further to that; Swedish police are unable to confirm that this took place at all... ... and from the same source; servers in the ring where accessible by non-anonymous ftp.
http://www.idg.se/2.1085/1.216376/antipiratbyran-rekordtillslag-mot-svensk-piratserver [www.idg.se]
I agree; likely to be an imaginary event.
A new network called "The Scene" (Score:3, Funny)
Thank God! (Score:3, Interesting)
The streets of Sweden are now again safe for copyright lawyers and trolls, movie studio heads and...um, well that's a start.
I hate the way this summary seems to conflate somebody with a big server who may or may not have movies on it with The Pirate Bay, who you may know, does not share movies from their computers.
If you are someone who believes that this crackdown on filesharing is a good thing, please put together your best argument, write it on a piece of A4 stationary, fold it in quarters and stick it as far up your ass as you can.
That made me feel better.
Nice Going, Assholes!!! (Score:4, Funny)
I wondered what the hell was causing today's havoc. I work at the local multiplex and it was just crazy all shift, queues right round the block. People were coming in saying "Tickets for _anything_, hurry,hurry! Keep the change!" and throwing handfuls of money at the till. We had to call for a security van to take the sacks of money away before they filled the whole office.
Re: (Score:3, Interesting)
This was most likely a dump site, so this probably means quite a lot of old stuff has gone off the grid now (they make the comparison in movies, but it is more than likely mostly TV shows).
New releases will find a new hub to distribute through, but it will take some time - also often with these raids the "scene" will go a bit underground, disconnect etc. until they are back to a comfortable level where everyone knows each other.
Not really seized, either, probably (Score:3, Interesting)
This is vapor reporting from the Anti-Piracy Bureau. It seems that one server out of a ring of many, which might have had a total capacity of 65TB, is claimed to have been seized.