Ten Best, Worst, and Craziest Uses of RFID 126
An anonymous reader writes "This top 10 rounds up what it calls 'the best, worst and craziest' uses of RFID out there — including chipped kids at Legoland, smart pub tables that let you order drinks, smartcards for sports fans, and chipped airline passengers. The craziest use of the tech surely has to be RFID chips for Marks & Spencer suits — you couldn't pay most people to wear one of them."
"tagging beta" (Score:5, Funny)
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That is certainly true, but I find that I'd be more inclined to have table-service in a large group since there is a lot more effort required to remember the orders in a round, and to physically carry them back to the table.
Although, as a Scot, standing at the bar is one of the few ti
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chipped kids? Ok (Score:5, Insightful)
I get scared every time I take my child to a fair or any other public gathering. I constantly watch him to ensure he's no more then ten feet away from me. I know that there are people who prowl such places on the lookout for unnattended children. paranoid? Perhaps, but I'd far rather be paranoid then the father of a dead child. No amount of paranoia is too much in such situations, so far as I'm concerned.
If a chip meant his location could be tracked constantly I'd feel a lot happier. It's not likely that I'd lose sight of him, but I can say with absolute certainty that if I did *any* means of locating him would be acceptable.
Re:chipped kids? Ok (Score:5, Insightful)
1. If the security system can detect the chip, so can the bad guys.
2. RFID tags can be duplicated
I don't have a problem with the way you're parenting -- it's your job to keep an eye on your child! The problem I have is with the parents who assume the magical tracker will work just like in the movies, and ignore their kids. (But when something bad happens, it's never their fault.)
Re:chipped kids? Ok (Score:5, Insightful)
Where they to find a way to utilise rfid, they likely couldn't stop me simultaniously using the same system to find him. I hope not anyhow.
The possibility exists that the very person who is after my child is the same person who is operating the system in the first place. I know of no way beyond complete paranoia to guard against this.
Shit, I get scared that my boy wants to walk home from school on his own, I may not be the best person to comment on rfid...
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Well consider this (Score:5, Interesting)
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Maybe staples?
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As long as he does't have a chip on him you watch him irl when at LEGO-land. But now that he has the chip you can safely go to the parent longe and watch where he is on the KidLocator(tm) - and there he is, safely in plain site of everyone, where noone can hurt him, perhaps standing in line for a ride. You feel absolutely safe! Then 30min later you start to wonder why he is still in line, he should be on the ride by now. So you start to get a little worried, soon you decide to go check on him. So you go to the line and look for him, but all you find is his rfid-bracelet behind the trashcan...
I assume your suggesting that the kid has ditched the bracelet. From the kids POV this is probably not a good idea. The choice the child is being given is either a) stay within 15 feet of a parent for the whole day or b) wander around with their mates doing exactly what they want to do when they want to do it. A child who pulls this sort of stunt clearly wants to spend more time with their parents and I suspect for a child who would pull that sort of stunt thats a fate worse than death.
Think of the Ki
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If you found your kid's RFID bracelet behind a trash can, would you assume the kid ditched it? The suggestion is rather that someone else removed it, with ulterior motives. You can't honestly tell me that a mass-produced (read: cheap) bracelet can stand up to a good pocketknife. You misunderstand grandparent, and for that matter the intent of the bracelets. If you think that a flimsy bracelet using an insecure technology is sufficient prote
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If you found your kid's RFID bracelet behind a trash can, would you assume the kid ditched it? The suggestion is rather that someone else removed it, with ulterior motives. You can't honestly tell me that a mass-produced (read: cheap) bracelet can stand up to a good pocketknife.
OK so my child is standing in a queue surronded by lots of people and a pedo whips out his good pocketknife cuts off the bracelet and drags him away to a horrible death? I think it more likely that the kid unclips the bracelet (the park will want to remove reuse them so there not going to use some sort of irrversable lock) and wanders off to play hooky...
Lack of imagination on your part. (Score:1)
But why the kid had disappered is actually beside de point. The point was that the parent now felt safe enough to leave the kid alone somwhere when he othervise whouldn't.
Too much imagination on your part. (Score:1)
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Right. The suggestion was that someone would walk up to an unknown kid in line at a busy amusement park, grab the kid, rip off a bracelet, and drag them off with no one noticing. Given the likelyhood of that or the kid removing it, I'd guess it's 99% the kid purposefully removing it, and 1% it accidentally falling off. The number of children kidnapped, molested and killed is somewhere around 50 per year. I couldn't figure out
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Re:chipped kids? Ok (Score:5, Insightful)
If he's being kidnapped, the napper would be aware that there is a very small window of opportunity to remove the child from the park before he's noticed missing, this window is made wider by your "it's ok he's been tagged, he'll turn up" mentality.
And that window doesn't need to be very wide at all
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200606/s1672
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the kid wears a bluetooth tag, as a pendant or bracelet or somesuch, base stations all around the park means the kid is always within range of one of them.
when your issued with the tag your also issued with a security code.
theres a web/wap page you can browse to from your phone, input the code you were given and it tells you where your kid is.
so yes, if close enough someone could directly track the signal from the kids tag, but then they would
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And even that level of cicumvention presumes someone notices the kid missing, finds the right person to notify, the problem goes up the chain of command and back down to gate security, and by the time gate security starts looking the kid hasn't already left the state, nevermind just the park.
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I'd put the RFID tag in something the kid can swallow. It'll pass in a day or so, but until then you know that you can track the kid.
I'd still also not let the kid out of my sight -- the chip is a backup only, not a replacement for good parenting.
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Not to mention all the crap in the sewers.
Isn't this taking marketing a *bit* too far?
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Re:chipped kids? Ok (Score:5, Funny)
As a parent I have to say that having my child chipped at an amusement park is just fine.
As a non-parent who does not like kids and avoids them when I can, I'm just fine with your kid being chipped, too. The only addition I'd make is the ability to deliver a small electrical shock when they are being annoying, or "precious" as their parents descirbe it.
Cold hearted? Yes.
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So, did that hurt?
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at all times? RFID is generally not selective and will respond
when polled.... by the park RFID readers, by those in the stores,
or by someone with a portable RFID reader.
Plausible scenario ?? I'm just pointing out that RFID is certainly
a two edged sword.
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Alternatively you can give him one of those new mobile phone with GPS, then you can always keep track of him. This way you can also ask him to do some shopping, if you notice him hanging out at the mall close to eating time.
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If you think about it, playgrounds nowadays usually have fences and gates around them. They didn't when I was a kid. Now it's routine basic security, you're kid has to go through a gate or someone has to act suspicious and grab them over the fence/drag them through a gate.
Should I think 'well, playgrounds never had fences before, so I'll forgoe that level of security'?
To be quite frank, paranioa is part of good parenting, realising that there are dangerous people from w
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I think it would be good if implemented properly is all.
Japs got right way to use RFID (Score:1, Funny)
RFID as a social-changing technology (Score:5, Informative)
From TA: "RFID has also made an appearance in the army to try and reduce casualties from 'friendly fire' incidents."
Yes, RFID is one of the geospatial technology which will have a significant impact on our lives. The "100% organic matter RFID chip developed in Korea, costing only 0.5 cents [slashgeo.org]" kind of headlines will only be seen more often in the near future.
Users protest (Score:1, Funny)
"I mean", he reported, "they're meant to stop abuse on the furniture, but they can be used to track the whereabouts of individuals who set them suddenly into motion. I don't know who is responsible for this initiative, but if I knew, I'd fucking kill them".
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This is just wrong, all they are doing is tracking things which they own in exactly the same way people currently do, you know those big-ass white things which are on your clothes and leave a hole in everything - it's essentially the same thing. It is just more efficient. No one would ever wear a suit with these in, and their article even accepts in when they state (the one they linked to from the article...) "[tags] are contained within throwaway paper labels called Intelligent Labels attached to, but not embedded in, a selection of men's suits". This sort of thing makes people who don't like the technology because it can track you look like tools who over-react. Don't keep doing this
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Agreed. (Score:2)
Or maybe a plain black £100 M&S suit will do again.
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But seriously, maybe they meant that Marks & Spencer makes (make?) ugly suits. That's really what I thought when I read the summary the first time.
Upon further reflection (like the 20 seconds it took me to write that), I think you're right.
A good use (Score:1)
Re:A good use (Score:5, Insightful)
Before we could implement a system like this, the laws would need to be revised. Right now, if an 18 year old has sex with his 17 year old girlfriend, and her parents don't approve, he goes to jail and has to be branded a sex offender for the rest of his life. If a guy pulls over on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere to use the bathroom in the woods because he can't make it to town and a cop sees, it's indecent exposure, and he's branded a sex offender for the rest of his life.
Granted, children need to be protected, but this country has gone WWWWWAAAAAYYYY overboard with paranoia. I'm not saying that these things don't happen, but when you talk about taking people's rights away and branding them with a moniker like 'Sex Offender', you'd better be DAMN sure.
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If someone forcibly rapes a child, especially repeat offenders, the only condition for their release should be that they agree to sit down in a comfortable wooden chair, put a cap on their head, and have a few thousand volts passed through them. If someone is so dangerous as to never be trusted in society, let's be honest and execute them. Fa
M&S RFID (Score:3, Insightful)
From another article [silicon.com] linked from the main article...
The RFID tags are contained in throwaway paper labels attached to, but not embedded in, a variety of men's and women's clothing items in stores. M&S uses mobile scanners to scan garment tags on the shop floor, and portals at distribution centres and the loading bays of stores allow rails of hanging garments to be pushed through and read at speed. and The retailer is aiming to use RFID tags to help achieve its goal of 100 per cent stock accuracy by ensuring the right goods and sizes are in the right stores to meet demand.
It sure would be nice of submitters did a little bit of basic research about their comic headline statements before publishing them. It's quite obvious that M&S aren't aiming to get people to wear the tags. They're using them to improve their stock accuracy, and have provided a simple and easy way to get rid of the tag if you don't want it.
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M&S suits (Score:1)
Did the submitter bother finishing the paragraph about Marks & Spencer suits?
It makes clear that "The retailer has avoided questions of privacy protection by attaching the tag to a label on the suit that can be cut off."
As in, I'm pretty sure they're not using RFID tags to allow evil cigar-smoking executive types to track how many cases of M&S brand vodka or froz
footraces? EZ Pass toll gadgets? (Score:5, Insightful)
http://www.marathonguide.com/features/Articles/Ra
Toll transponders are another very convenient use of technology. Sure, there are some privacy issues, but they're convenient.
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If cash payments ro refill an anonymous smartcard were allowed and license plates weren't photoed unless the car was missing a tag, then the privacy issues would be very small assuming that the people running the toll system were honest.
-b.
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Simple solution: just collect the toll amount by mail with no fine if the tag misreads once or twice. If the plate proves to be a repeat offender (say, more than 5 unread tags in a 3 mo. period, but don't publicize the exact number) than slap it with a $100 fine, whic
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Maybe good/bad read ratio.
It's not their fault they accumulated so many misreads, it's yours, so you can't very well expect to hit them with a hundred dollar fine.
If you can prove that you had a valid tag at the time, you should just be able to pay the toll by mail. Registration of tags could also be optional for those who don't care about their privacy.
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Misreads very common... (Score:1)
I'd worry about privacy on license plate
from TFA (Score:2, Informative)
Japanese authorities decided to start chipping schoolchildren in one primary school in Osaka a couple of years ago. The kids' clothes and bags were fitted with RFID tags with readers installed in school gates and other key locations to track the minors' movements.
Legoland also introduced a similar scheme to stop children going astray by issuing RFID bracelets for the tots.
Pub tables:
Thirsty students can escape the busy bar and still get a pint thanks to RFID tables that deliver orders remotely.
The
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Tagging books (Score:2, Informative)
RFID at football grounds (Score:1)
OysterCard (Score:1)
Worst RFID use? The new American passport. (Score:2)
This is truly stupid and dangerous because the people out there who believe that they were put on this planet by some god for the sole purpose of killing Americans (and there are a lot of people out there like that) can set up a small RFID detector in a public place and know exactly who is and who isn't an American as people move thr
Which Country (Score:2)
This is truly stupid and dangerous because the people out there who believe that they were put on this planet by some god for the sole purpose of killing Americans (and there are a lot of people out there like that) can set up a small RFID detector in a public place and know exactly who is and who isn't an American as people move through the place
Which country is this? Maybe America should just invade them & spread democracy so that
such stuff won't happen there anymore.
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They should have one of those tags shoved so far up thier wazoo that it's never going to come out then dropped into the same location.
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Here is something you should know: no, there are not a lot of people like that. There are extremely few people like that. Such people are fantastically uncommon.
I nominate the implanted RFID guy (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.bmezine.com/news/presenttense/20050330. html [bmezine.com]
There are before and after pictures as well as a video of the procedure.
so which is which? (Score:2)
sum.zero
Usual rubbish (Score:2, Interesting)
Best Use Ever (Score:1)
Upon learning that a suspect had injected a cheatin' wife with an RFID chip, Det. Stabler quips,
"The guy just invented the Hojack."
Port Security (Score:1)
When the shipping container is filled, it is sealed with a rad-hard tamper-proof RFID global shipping tag seal. It is physically impossible to open the door without breaking the seal and the RFID tag inside.
Shipping container gets to destination port. If the GST doesn't respond or gives the wrong number, that's evidence of tampering and the container gets the thorough go-over.
The unopened container can be gamma-scanned, x-rayed, and dowsed for evil
RFID SID Music Player (Score:2)
Combining RFID, SIDs, and Ruby..
"Dividuum...has built a very cool RFID application. He stores SID-files (SID is the music format for the C64) on RFID tags. When you put such a tag near to the reader, the music is played on the stereo."
Badass.
And this crazy use? (Score:1)
That said one of the things I want to ask a plastic surgeon is to make some kind of kangaroo pouch with my belly skin so i can carry my car keys and wallet in nudist beachs.
One of the best uses... (Score:1)
Just a comment (Score:1)
Well I did not see a mention to the chipping of 007 in the latest Bond movie...
Not sure if that was a good or bad thing to suggest.
Now it had me thinking. Why not chip all elected officials? Would make it nice to see what they are doing...
Go to a web site, see your elected official is currently in the Bahamas
Classic "pit of dispair article" (Score:1)
Worst? Porto's Andante metro/rail validation (Score:2)
What's wrong with M&S suits? (Score:1)
The word "them" is fatally ambiguous here.
"Google House" (Score:1)
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