RFID Production to Increase 25 fold by 2010 179
Luke PiWalker writes "The number of RFID tags produced worldwide is expected to increase more than 25 fold between 2005 and 2010, reaching 33 billion, according to market research company In-Stat. Total production of RFID tags in 2005 reached more than 1.3 billion, according to a recent report. RFID production will vary widely by industry segment for several years -- for example, RFID has been used in automotive keys since 1991, with 150 million units now in use, a quantity that greatly exceeded other segments until recently, according to In-Stat. "By far the biggest RFID segment in coming years will be supply chain management," said Allen Nogee, In-Stat analyst, in a statement. "This segment will account for the largest number of tags/labels from 2005 through 2010." RFID has obvious privacy flaws, why is the world pointed in the direction of RFID?"
Thank God... (Score:5, Funny)
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RFID and the Average Person (Score:5, Interesting)
I can't help thinking that the average person is still pretty clueless about RFID tags and will still be even when there are 25x as many! Will understanding of RFID tags be similar to that of browser cookies? Will the security implications be blown out of proportion in a similar way? Don't get me wrong, I'm all about computer security, but cookies hardly scare me, and so far, RFID tags don't scare me too much. The counter solution should be pretty simple - get an RFID scanner so you know if there are any 'hidden' ones about.
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Re:RFID and the Average Person (Score:2)
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Re:RFID and the Average Person (Score:5, Informative)
I work as the IT manager for the largest RFID company in the world. We are *the* supplier of RFID tags and devices to the DoD. With the tags and devices available from my company and others; Matrics, Alien etc.. you needent worry. These tags are too expensive, or also too big and too weak to be of concern to people. (Expensive being the primary gating item to ubiquity)
However - i would remind people that a cell phone is far more an unknown and exploitable device than the current commercially advertised and known RFID tags.
RFID is a phenomenon that has been known about for a long time. (as are cell phones which were first proofed in the 40s) and falls into two categories; Active or Passive. Active tags have a battery which powers the antennae - passive tags merely respond to RF waves that pass through them and "reply" with a unique signature.
Passive tags hold very little data, usually just an ID - or serial number (around 1K-ish - historically). Active tags have memory (256/512K ish) and can hold real data, such as the manifest of a shipping container.
The data still needs to be read and dealt with in a meaningful way. Passive IDs need to be correlated to a backend DB which equates the ID with some meaningful data, such as a record of what that ID actually represents.
Active tags are a bit more flexible in that they can provide info which does not necessarily require access to a backed DB in order to understand what the tag is identifying, or what that container holds.
My company only produces Active tags. These tags are large, expensive and meant for tracking THINGS. Containers specifically - or large cost items, such as a vehicle(parts). Our tags are used on shipping containers and trucks, and pose no threat to personal privacy, unless you dont want people (yourself) to know what you placed inside some container which is being shipped from one port to the next.
Active tags, backed by batteries, arent just capable of greater range, they are capable of TELLING the reader system about events that occur. For example - we have some tags which have sensors on them. Light, temp. humidity, shock etc. These sensors can be set to alert if they go off or above threshold. This is important when you are concerned about the viability/integrity of the property the tag is "watching". Some medications spoil if exposed to certain temperatures for extended periods of time. The sensor tag can monitor temp then alert if it gets too high for too long. Some munitions automatically ARM themselves if they receive a certain amount of shock. so the tags would warn if a munition is armed, important to know if your going to be moving a box of explosives via crane or forklift.
Active tags cost between 60 and 85 dollars per tag. Are roughly 4" long and 1" high and 1.5" wide. Active tags run at 433 megahertz and 123 kilohertz (the two frequencies are used for two different functions: reading data from the tag (433) or sending commands to the tag (123)).
There are some new active tags which are smaller, and run on 802.11 (wifi) frequencies, but there are a great number of challenges in that freq. range.
Passive tags are a losing proposition for most companies as the manufacturing cost is greater than what the tag can be sold for. Before tags can be ubiquitous in products - they need to be throw-away cheap. some person I dont know said that the magic number for passive tags was
There is a lot of supporting infrastructure required to do anything of interest with RFID - its not just that you deploy a bunch of tags and all of a sudden you c
MOD PARENT UP PLEASE! (Score:2)
I do think your tin foil hat loses some luster though given your informed and rational stance on RFID technology/privacy. You're making WAY too much sense to be in the foil 'hood anymore.
Re:RFID and the Average Person (Score:3, Interesting)
Today, perhaps. But tomorrow? :"An unusual pool of scientific talent at the U.S. Department of Energy's Argonne National Laboratory, combined with new nanofabrication and nanocharacterization instruments, is helping to open a new frontier in electronics, to be made up of very small and very fast devices [suvalleynews.com]." and ""When the first computer hard disk was introduced 50 years ago, it required a r
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No more trucks full of toilet paper or other low dollar things will be jacked.
Surely they'll now focus on easily fenced, high value shipments.
Some form of encryption will likely be used in the case of manifests I would imagine.
Of course that isn't really my concern, just thinking the obvious.
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Re:RFID and the Average Person (Score:2)
A kid having some beer sold from my store does not prove that I sold it to him. My lack of a defense in no way implies guilty.
Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:5, Insightful)
The first half of this quote concerns pallets in a warehouse, something with no conceivable privacy implications of any kind. The second half of this quite asks how anyone could approve of this given its "obvious privacy flaws".
Uhhhhhhh... right.
So let's say I buy a pair of shoes with an RFID tag in them and I don't like this. Never mind I haven't heard of a single shoe manufacturer proposing to do this, let's just say it happens. All I should have to do is run the shoes through the microwave and the RFID tag should fry, right?
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2)
You misspelled 'is'.
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2)
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The first half of this quote concerns pallets in a warehouse, something with no conceivable privacy implications of any kind. The second half of this quite asks how anyone could approve of this given its "obvious privacy flaws".
Uhhhhhhh... right.
I agree with your point. The biggest use of RFID for supply chain management is not going to have any privacy concerns for the general population. The company I am working for are using planning to use it to track the 1 million sacks of produce we manufactur
That sacks... (Score:2)
Sorry!
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:3, Funny)
I just bought a pair of skis that have RFID tags in them. What do you suggest I do?
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2, Insightful)
And if you cannot be bothered to do your research ahead of time, don't expect me to care when you whine about the RFID tags in your skis.
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2)
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2)
O mighty market, thy word be the law! Deliver us from our suffering!
No constitution on earth(even in Switzerland!) states that you have a right to skis.
On the other hand, several constituions, including mine, state that your right to privacy is in many occasions stronger than the right of "the market" to do whatever it pleases.
Of course rfid is such a new developement that laws and judgement dealing with it are scarce.
You either take what the market produces, produce your own, or don'
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2)
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2)
The market, if left alone by democratic laws cannot be truly called "free", at least not in a good way. It is still impeded by big corporations throught cartels, monopolistic behaviours and all the other perks a free market brings with it. Left alone, a market will drift away furhter and further from being free, so additional tweaking by laws is neccessary and in the interest of the people.
Such tweaking by laws is already being done today. There
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2)
Monopolies have nothing to do with the free market. You can't have a monopoly, or monopolistic behavior, without government backing. It requires power from the barrel of a government gun (via laws) in order for corporations to enforce a monopoly; without that power no corporation on Earth can have a monopoly unless they're willing to engage in other forms of illegal beha
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2)
Furthermore, placing limits on products not only restricts the producers, but the consumers as well. What if I value the lower price more than the loss of privacy? If the seller can't use these RFID tags, then I'm going to pay the price.
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2)
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2)
Be sure to get some lead pantaloons on first, though. Just in case.
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Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2)
Obviously, this creates justification for copyright infringement! To the torrent trackers I go! You'll not be tracking me right up until the point I open the case and throw the tag away, you godless privacy invaders! Ha-ha!
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2)
I call BS on that. Let's see proof. How does lack of automation mean total economic collapse?
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2)
That said, I believe that RFID will increase costs, not decrease them. But increasing cost is not an issue for the retailer if it allows them to increase the average selling price or give them a competitive advantage over the competition. Just look at cereal boxes. The lowest cost way to distribute cold cereal is with a big bin and people put it in
Re:Nearly oxymoronic there (Score:2)
That means the best you could do is work out that the same person is doing xyz, but not who it is. And if it's encrypted (SecurID make very slim cards which contain technology quite capable of this), there's even less risk because it won't return a sensible number, or even any number at all.
Privacy fatigue (Score:2, Informative)
Yeah, because that crate of 300 rubber chickens from Shanghai really needs "privacy" as it makes its way from Dock 42 in Seattle to some anonymous Wal-Mart stockroom in Piedmont, Arizona.
The annoying thing is that when they come for me, there will be plenty of people left to speak up for me, but nobody will be listening. Quit crying "wolf" over every meme that exits the blogosphere, fer Pete's sake.
Re:Privacy fatigue (Score:2)
But you'll probably be a lot more interested in privacy when that rubber chicken makes its way from the Wal-Mart stockroom to your bedroom.
33 Billion !!! (Score:3, Funny)
Obvious Privacy Flaws (Score:5, Insightful)
RFID is going in the same direction as the rest of the world, which is away from individual privacy vis-a-vis the state and vis-a-vis the large, "trustworthy" corporation
Re:Obvious Privacy Flaws (Score:2)
The sky is not falling.
No. No, it's not. (Score:2)
If a sale is made, and you pay with an identifying method, such as a credit or debit card, or even a supermarket affinity card, that particular item is now linked to your identity. This is why the increased data capacity of RFIDs is meaningful.
And, of course, this means that if a major metropolitan a
Re:No. No, it's not. (Score:2)
Bought a laptop lately? Check the serial no. on the back, it will almost certainly be unique to that laptop.
There is no real feasible way to do the orwellian thing with RFID in consumer products without some ridiculously huge database and infrastructure as well as cooperation between millions of seperate stores, govt, competing producers etc etc.
The same FUD was spread when barcode readers and credit cards came into p
Where the difference lies. (Score:3, Insightful)
But that's not the same sort of problem. My laptop's serial number is not encoded in any discernible way in my system's software (I wiped the bundled software when I got it); if I walk down the street, my movements cannot be tracked by it. When the laptop is turned off and sitting in its briefcase, it is nontrivial
Re:No. No, it's not. (Score:3, Informative)
I belive that IPv6 address space contains enough unique IPs to have something like a million per square metre of the earth's surface. IPv6 is going to be implemented.
It's simply a question of scaling. Consider the RFID tag to be like a unique IP. Can you locate that ID am
Re:Obvious Privacy Flaws (Score:2)
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Car Keys (Score:2, Interesting)
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There are two types of RFID: active and passive. Active meaning they have their own power supply to enable them to transmit. Passive is where there is no power supply but the chip is powered by the small amount of power generated by actually being scanned. The small tags that are put in labels and for palets are passive. These are the ones that will be made in the millions and are very cheap.
Car keys use active RFID so will not be affected much by the mass production.
Re:Car Keys (Score:2)
If you have two original keys, do the following:
Grab yourself a $12 or so transponder key from eBay [ebay.com].
Get someone to cut the key. Your local home depot can possibly do this - your local locksmith almost certainly can. I don't know about Wal-Mart.
Put the first original key in the ignition, turn to on.
Wait 5 seconds, turn off.
Very quickly insert the second original key, and turn on.
Wait 10 seconds for the SKIS indicator ligh
Most innovated use of rfid (Score:4, Interesting)
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In other news... (Score:2, Funny)
And that's just because most beople can't afford A real EMP shock generator [amazing1.com]
Google House (Score:5, Funny)
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Non-RFID companies popping up? (Score:3, Interesting)
Just like there is 'hemp' clothing that seems to be bought as a stand against "The Man", does anyone see 'RDID-free' as a growing market? And if so, how long until they are bought out by the large corporations, and tags start going in?
r.e.a.c.t.i.o.n.a.r.y. that is how we spell.... (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, granted, RFID does have some privacy implications when applied in P.O.S. applications, hospitals and such like.
However, AFAIK, by far and above the largest use is in automotive security, logistics and workflow handling. Boxes dont care if people know whats in them, but it sure as shit makes the warehouse easier to manage if your robot/forklift knows what is in those boxes and automagically tracks stock in and out. Even walmart would still use RFID even if they weren't allowed to use it on stock in shop, because the would still use it for shipment and bulk stock management.
Most of the increased use of RFID will still remain back office, in factories, warehouses and other transit points. Put your tinfoil hats away.
*IF* the article discussed governments planning to RFID tag humans behind the left ear, then, perhaps, we would have a major issue.
However, the small number of privacy impacting cases aside, RFID is an incredibly flexible technology. In factory workflow planning, it allows us to remove human error from data logging. The workstation AUTOMATICALLY presents you with the correct fittings for component G because it knows you are assembling component G and not component W. Barcodes dont even come close.
The inventory management system knows what stock levels you have in the Finished Goods Inventory (FGI) because it has scanned the RFID bearing kanban's as the goods were loaded into the FGI racks.
Even if EVERY SINGLE application which impacted privacy was disallowed and canned; RFID use would still exponentially increase as people replace laser based barcode systems with RFID because it is more reliable (in a maintenance sense), easier and ultimately cheaper. Furthermore, it allows for far more efficient automated handling systems to be designed because you no longer have the limitation that every box needs to be in a direct line of sight for the scanner.
So, perhaps, just perhaps, the increased use of RFID *MIGHT* be in aid of improving the efficiency of the manufacturing and logistics industry and *NOT* to track where you take your pr0n. Considering how much whining about offshoring goes on here, you would think productivity technologies might get a better hearing.
Ah well. Just my Engineers $0.02 AUD
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Re:r.e.a.c.t.i.o.n.a.r.y. that is how we spell.... (Score:3, Interesting)
That's the whole idea. Look at the submitter's linked web page.
Lose privacy we will (Score:2)
we're already there (Score:2)
Actually, such an embedded tag would be less informative for spying/tracking purposes than the current future scenario, which is that we will all be carrying around a virtual blizzard of tags in our everyday items. One embedded tag would be easy to spoof/kill/fake/etc., whereas the blizzard is a mark practically impossible to alter.
Whether this is a major issue is for you t
News just in (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:News just in (Score:2)
Your joke was not too far-fetched, except for this bit.
RFID in the supply chain (Score:5, Informative)
I can't wait for them (Score:5, Insightful)
"...why is the world pointed in the direction of RFID?"
Because it is a labor-saving device.
I own a bookstore. It is the largest independant bookstore in a 3+ million city in the US. Shelving books and keeping track of them is one of my biggest expenses in terms of labor. And it is boring labor. The employees gnerally find it the most unpleasant part of the job aside from cleaning the toilets.
I can't wait to be able to do inventory by just walking along the isle with a scanner. It will save me many thousands of dollars every year. And the employees will be happier.
I don't want to intrude on your privacy. I'd be quite happy if RFIDs work only in my store and not in your home. But I'm going to use them because they make my life easier and they will save my money.
Re:I can't wait for them (Score:3, Insightful)
Hats off to you sir, and I hope your eventual RFID roll-out occurs. I would be more then happy to purchase a book from your store =)
Re:I can't wait for them (Score:2, Interesting)
So I see RFID a bit like a car. Lots of folk die in car accidents, but for society as a whole the benefits seem to out weigh the probl
Re:I can't wait for them (Score:2)
fold? am I the only geek on /.? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:fold? am I the only geek on /.? (Score:2)
Bollocks.
Oxford Dictionary: /fld/ suff. [OE -fald, -feald = OFris., OS -fald (Du. -voud), (O)HG -falt, ON -faldr, Goth -falps, cogn. w. FOLD v.1 and w. Gk -paltos, -plasios, also w. plo- in haplos, and prob. w. L (sim)plex.] Forming adjs. and advs. from cardinal numerals and adjs. meaning 'many' w. the senses 'mult
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Re:fold? am I the only geek on /.? (Score:2)
I've thought for many years that the use of fold to mean 'multiplied by' was moronic. I understand it's mis-use, but everytime I see it it's annoying.
Re:fold? am I the only geek on /.? (Score:2)
I'm not bothered by -fold, after all you can fold something in many ways, not just over and over to double; but "decimate" is another numeric word that is generally used in a way almost inverse to the definition.
So for all of you concerned about RFID (Score:5, Interesting)
Do you decline to use your badge to open the building door at work?
Is it only a violation of privacy when it's used in supply chain management?
Which RFID company to invest in... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Which RFID company to invest in... (Score:4, Informative)
Impinj http://www.impinj.com/ [impinj.com]
Intermec http://www.intermec.com/ [intermec.com]
Re:Which RFID company to invest in... (Score:2)
Except that we aren't accepting investment.
Only Korean Generals need to RFID their troops (Score:2, Funny)
They didn't have this problem in Soviet Russia. In Soviet Russia, troops tagged you.
Why? (Score:4, Insightful)
Because they handily solve so many pressing problems? Don't blame the technology for its misuse, that's the fault of people. Stores can deactivate RFID tags just as they remove the current crop of anti-theft devices. If they don't, don't shop there!
Re:Why? (Score:2, Interesting)
So if you don't want active RFID tags , don't steal!
EETimes: Global news ... (Score:2)
There needs to be legislation to prevent abuse. (Score:2)
RFID brings MANY Privacy Considerations (Score:4, Interesting)
Q: Is it true there are plans to put RFID chips in Euro banknotes?
A: Hitachi has been working with the European Central Bank on the idea of putting RFID chips into Euro banknotes. This would eliminate the anonymity of cash by making it trackable. In essence, it would "register" your cash to you when you get it from the teller or take it out of the ATM. Euro banknotes could be RFID tagged as early as 2005. See: "Euro Notes May be Radio Tagged" at http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t295-s2135074,00
anonymous Cash exchange places (Score:2)
Re:RFID brings MANY Privacy Considerations (Score:2)
A passive tag typically is 96 bits in length these days, and those are the only tags anywhere near economically feasible for large-scale deployment. Of those 96 bits, you need between 30-50 bits to identify the encoding construct and the marking entity. That leaves you usually with on average 32-48 bits available for you to put your nefarious track-the-human-and-spy-on-him payload. There are lots of barcodes that can contain far more information than EPC Class 1 Gen 2 passive RFID tags.
If y
Supply chain management (Score:2)
Privacy is important? (Score:2)
Since when have companies ever gave a flip about maintianing the average person's privacy? The fact you have to opt-out of policies that share information most consumers would obviously rather keep private is proof enough.
This isn't good (Score:2, Insightful)
The problem is telling them apart .. (Score:2, Interesting)
In this case it's easy to separate the two, but what if you don't even know you've been 'wired' with RFIDs in other articles? On the bright side, it at least means that you can use a Lo
Readers are where its at (Score:2)
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Privacy issues? (Score:2)
The report.... (Score:2)
Why? (Score:2)
for the same reason manufacturing is moving to China: WAL-MART
ASFAIK- Wal-Mart is the primary push behind RFID and they making suppliers foot the bill.
It starts out with an RFID tag on each Pallet, once that works out
Then it moves to an RFID tag on each Box, once that works out
Then it moves to an RFID tag on each ITEM
As others have pointed out, the goal is to make inventory more efficient, but as a multi-millionaire business owner friend of mine p
Re:Can eliminating jobs make business more efficie (Score:2)
Let's suppose you own a small company, you have 10 employees.
Wal-Mart is a major source of your income and they demand you start using a new technology (like RFID...), but you have to pay all the R&D costs for implementing this technology AND you can't pass the costs on to your customers in the form of slightly higher prices.
(Wal-Mart makes you LOWER prices each year, you can't raise them or you don't do business with them...)
Your competitors that can afford t
Does anyone care to propose a solution? (Score:3, Interesting)
Limit RFID technology implanted in commercially available goods to a read distance of, say, 12 inches, and a mandatory lifespan of tags to 6 months, *or* require that tags be removed or disabled when the transaction is complete. The industry still gets useful technology, and we get our privacy.
How do you capitize on RFID? (Score:2)
I see very little demand for RFID consulting, will that change?
CompTIA has a new RFID+ certification. I can't see that be useful for anything more than a $15/hour installer.
Re:The really scary thing (Score:2)