Licensing Computer Techs As TV Repairmen 408
An anonymous reader writes "According to a story in yesterday's New Orleans paper, the Louisiana Radio and Television Technicians Board has sent letters to computer techs demanding fees to license them as radio and TV repairmen. Apparently, as computers drive more home theater applications, the board is trying to classify them as 'playback and recording device equipment,' which the law gives the board power to regulate. It looks more like a money grab, though, since no test is required, just $55 and an affidavit." It seems to me the better question is not whether computers can be defined in many circumstances as playback and recording equipment (hard to get around), but whether this kind of forced classification makes sense in the first place. Disingenuous quote of the day: "We're not trying to swing our arm around a whole bunch of people to get new revenue."
What about car mechanics? (Score:5, Insightful)
I dunno... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:I don't see it as such a bad thing. (Score:3, Insightful)
Don't license (Score:5, Insightful)
"That is the problem with a grandfather clause," he said. "There is nothing that we can do about that."
Sure there is, don't license computer technicians!
Re:I dunno... (Score:3, Insightful)
That's the main point of TV repair licensing.
isn't that against the law? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:I don't see it as such a bad thing. (Score:5, Insightful)
No it wouldn't because all the competition will also have to have paid $55. It does nothing but gouge people for $55.
Stop complaining! (Score:5, Insightful)
Anyway, I *like* that there is a driving license. I wish it were *more* difficult.
Marriage... that one is less useful now than it might have been 100 years ago. And with common law marriages, quite useless, though lots of states don't recognize common law marriage.
Fishing and hunting I'll agree too as I don't think we should have unlicensed folk with guns shooting at things. At the least, it limits them.
Essentially licensing is a force to limit, and in certain things I think that's good.
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Re:I can't fix most TVs (Score:5, Insightful)
I doubt that most computer repair techs have ever opened a monitor (or even a power supply). The entire thing is treated as a disposable unit. Most servicable computer components are relatively idiot-proof, only fit into the appropriate sockets, and operate at no more than 12V.
If they weren't just going for a money grab, they'd exempt all computer techs who don't open up monitors or power supplies.
Recording+Playback (Score:5, Insightful)
Either computers are not such devices as the court ruling indicated, and thus this money grab is illegal, or computers are such devices and thus protected by fair use copying exemptions to the chagrin of the RIAA/MPAA.
Re:Already required in CA (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:VOTE LIBERTARIAN, Louisiana (Score:1, Insightful)
People still call for TV repairmen? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Best Idea ever (Score:3, Insightful)
Though that being said, I seriously doubt any more than 2% of the customers that come into our shop think to look for (or ask about) our technicians' certifications. Though I seriously wonder if any of the remaining 98% would know the difference between a "I paid $200 and passed a test any computer user could pass" cert and a "this took me three attempts at $150 each and six weeks of study to pass" cert.
I'd also be willing to bet 50% of the techs working at computer service shops have zero certifications. The only reason I have certs is because we can't order service parts from the manufacturers without them.
Re:I can't fix most TVs (Score:5, Insightful)
The point of my comment is this though. The people doing that work for us are EEs, they have credited degrees in Electrical Engineering and many are licensed as EEs. Considering the people who are doing this kinda repair work are already well licensed and covered. It seems insulting to license them again as "repair men"/.
Re:I can't fix most TVs (Score:3, Insightful)
One wouldn't.
Re:Not a first for Louisiana (Score:1, Insightful)
There's an enormous difference between a privately offered *certification* and a legally mandated *license*. One is the free market's way of identifying competent engineers; the other is the state making work and jobs (without the state's permission) illegal.
Is that "interesting" too? I should think it was obvious.
This is great (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:oughta be unconstitutional (Score:1, Insightful)
No, how New American.
We detain people without legal access for suspicion of terrorism, being associated with terrorists and even being the same nationality as suspected terrorists a la Perl Harbor.
We're a cowardly and hypocritical nation, but no longer honorable, if you judge us by our actions instead of our words.
Re:This is great.!!!!!!!!! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Actually... (Score:5, Insightful)
You're wrong. (So is this weirdo [slashdot.org]).
How does paying a couple of dollars every few years (with no testing) ensure that I drive safer?
You're incorrectly focusing on license-renewal, which is actually less important than the initial issuance, which is what really improves safety. Or do you think that I'd really be fine to allow 14-year olds to get in cars and do 65 on the highway without at least first convincing a backseat cop that he's fundamentally competent?
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5 years lifespan for hardware good??? (Score:3, Insightful)
"I opened it up, fixed it and have been using it for nearly 5 years. Not a bad lifespan for a free piece of hardware."
Only in the computing industry... I have some of my dad's powertools (10 years old), drive my grandmother's car (39 years old), got some of my great granddad's hand tools (70? years old). The computing model really annoys me, this is just not sustainable, the world is drowning under a sea of thrown out crap. Why can't we build stuff to last a bit longer? or more significantly design systems that can work with older kit... Me, sick of software bloat. Even new distros of linux assume 2Gb hard drives and 128Mb Ram minimum. All my mum wants to do is email, and word process. I'm sure I managed this ten years ago. Surely must be achievable without hardcore linux geekhacking skills. We realy should try to develop a more long term design philosophy. I've got a three year old mobile phone, Ericsson, shockproofed, gortex lined, you can drop it in a pond and fish it out and use it, no problem. They don't make them any more. My guess is - because people like me buy them and don't need to buy another one six months later. We really need a big paradigm shift...(imho)
Re:This is great.!!!!!!!!! (Score:3, Insightful)
Huh? (Score:4, Insightful)
So you're saying that the government should require anyone who cracks open a TV set to have a license? No more fix-it-at-home episodes? Billy Bob can't drink a six-pack, get out the screwdriver and augment his gymnastics skills with the flyback transformer?
Licenses are required to protect consumers from ripoff artists. Otherwise, you'd have corner shops with con artists "fixing" TVs.
Back in the old days of tube TVs, it was very easy to take a damaged TV from a naive client, declare it a total loss by "demonstrating" how badly the TV was broken, and offer to buy it for $25 as a "parts" chassis.
Then, put all the tubes back in, fix the original minor problem for $10, tune it up a little and sell it for $200 to someone else. Then wait for the next moron to walk through the door and attempt to swindle them too! A state agency with a licensing plan has a complaint system. Several complaints, and an inspector stops in, maybe to suspend the license.
Back in the 60's and 70's, you could find tube testers at the hardware and grocery stores. Anyone with a screwdriver and some patience could at least get their TV up and running by bringing in dead tubes, checking them in the tube tester, and replacing them. Tuning was a bit more tricky, but it was possible if you learned a few tricks.
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PCs are simply a pain-in-the-ass. After chasing hardware and software problems for other people for the past 15+ years, I tell you, it's not worth $75 an hour to do it. The calls never stop, and most people generally believe that each incident is directly related to the first service call. They feel that they should only have to pay $75 once, and that everything after that is free. If you enjoy peace and quiet, strict enforcement of the $75/hour fee is required. If you perform one favor, somehow, everyone hears about it and you've got dozens of others who expect the same treatment. It's not worth it.
The only thing worse than fixing PCs is fixing someone else's stovepipe network!