Toyota Patents Winking, Laughing, Crying Car 484
theodp writes "If the patent system ain't broke, don't fix it: The NY Times/IHT reports that four inventors working for Toyota in Japan have won a patent for a car that they say can help drivers communicate better by glaring angrily at another car cutting through traffic, as well as appear to cry, laugh, wink or just look around." The article goes on to describe "...a car with an antenna that wags, an adjustable body height, headlights that vary in intensity and hood slits and ornamentation designed to look like eyebrows, eyelids and tears."
What I want to know (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:What I want to know (Score:2)
Next question please.
Yes, you in the shirt...
Re:What I want to know (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously, what an awful idea. Yes, let's pay attention to the emotions of the cars around us. Because even after the advent of cellphones, food from drive-throughs, stereos, GPS devices, and in-car LCD screens - we're still paying WAY too much attention to our driving situation.
- David Stein
Re:What I want to know (Score:3, Interesting)
This is a complete waste of time. But hey, what else do they have to do? It's not like there is an energy crisis going on...
Re:What I want to know (Score:5, Insightful)
Cars are already designed to try to clue you in to what the driver is thinking - for example, brake lights, turn signals, horns, etc. Communication of intent between drivers is critical while on the road. Now, some of this is more what the driver "feels" than what they are planning, but I doubt it would *hurt*. The more attention you pay to what's on the road ahead of you, the better.
Re:What I want to know (Score:3, Insightful)
But are you? Instead of paying attention to all of the cars, you're paying more attention to one particular car. And it's not guaranteed to be a car that's important to your driving situation - it could very well be a car on the opposite side of the road.
One of the other posters wrote it best: as you look in your rear-view mirror at the guy behind you, whose car is making a frowny-face, you're likely to rear-end the guy ahead of yo
Re:What I want to know (Score:3, Insightful)
Odds are, the answer is 'No'.
People don't spend their time expressing emotions to strangers unless they have a reason for it, and when they do, there's generally a good reason for it, and it's generally either appreciated or causes a desired interaction. That's the nature of communication in crowds.
This would, more than anything, encourage *good* driving. There have been many times where, when I've been in a big pack of cars
Re:What I want to know (Score:3, Interesting)
Odds are, the answer is 'No'.
True. But that's even worse: now a car expressing emotion is an unusual occurrence, one that prompts you to pay attention to it.
Can you think of another visual event that might encourage people to be better drivers? How about a wreck by the side of the road? A small visual indicator of the consequences of bad driving might encourage people to be more careful.
But what is the real impact of tha
Re:What I want to know (Score:5, Interesting)
For instance, why not have brake lights shine brighter the harder you're braking? That would give people behind you an indication of how hard they need to brake, without waiting to judge your change in velocity.
Or brake lights that shine forward?
Or acceleration lights that shine green (brighter the faster you accelerate)?
Or turn signals that tick louder the farther you've traveled with them on (to remind you to turn them off)?
Lots of innovations in car UI just waiting to happen, but it's so fscking standardized that no one's going to make them. I'm glad to see Toyota's at least thinking about what it means to actually drive a car, rather than just trying to build the latest rendition of an old concept.
P.S. I get really incensed by the ads that are running right now -- I forget whose -- where the company claims to have 're-invented the wheel', 'rethought the car from the ground up', and 'come up with something completely revolutionary'. Then they show you a picture and it's... a sedan. Same as every other car on the road. Whoop-de-fucking-do.
I'm with you (Score:4, Interesting)
I always thought that there should be bar lights, red for breaking; blue, green, white, or whatever for acceleration. And have them keyed to a standard applicable to all makes - e.g. three lights of red would mean a certain standard amount of deceleration.
The other thing I always wish for is that trucks and such have a screen on the back showing their view of what's in front of them. Then when you get behind an idiot who is going slow and has no one in front, you know you should/can pass. For those who think this would be dangerous for some reason, remember that most drivers do this already with cars in front, as you can see through them from back to front.
Heh, heh. Maybe the screen could be incorporated into the Toyota idea - if you're pissed off at the person behind you, you could switch to a shot of your face and mouth "fuck off" rather than having the car mimic the emotion.
One last thing that I always wanted were "excuse me" lights. You know, for when you're the dick who cut someone else off (for a good reason, of course!).
Re:What I want to know (Score:3, Insightful)
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I want rocket launchers and flame throwers.
Let's have some real retribution for those who piss me off, none of this namby pamby crying shit.
And don't dare mod this comment as "funny".
Well this is Japan... (Score:5, Interesting)
There's a good list of them here [iit.edu], along with all the appropriate emoticons, although they left out a bunch of other less common stuff (bloody nose for sexual overstimulation, snot bubble for sleeping, escaping spirit for half dead, completely white from shock, puking looks kind of like a waterfall), and certain mouth patterns (aggressive fangs).
In particular, expect to see sweat drops, popping veins, and funny eyes. ^_^;
Is This a Hoax??? (Score:4, Interesting)
Is this a hoax???
The patent number referred to is 6,575,593, but a quick search for that patent number at the US Patent Office yields a patent entitled: IEEE 1394 or USB powered computer light [uspto.gov].
Seriously, people. I think this might just be a hoax.
sev
I just want to know... (Score:5, Funny)
For those who don't know... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:For those who don't know... (Score:3, Funny)
Two Words: (Score:5, Funny)
Moon Roof
Doesn't this increase the danger? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? (Score:4, Insightful)
And looking in the rear view mirror at the driver behind you is going to take less time some how?
Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm not a robot, not yet at least ;-) but vehicles to me are entities in and of themselves. So if the vehicle itself gives me an expression, I'd give it some attention (and thus have less attention left for the rest of the driving experience), but even if
Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? (Score:2)
Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? (Score:2)
Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, possibly, but if someone is trying to communicate with you, it may be the best way anyway. Think about it. Would you rather they flash the lights, honk the horn or wave? You will spend more brain cycles trying to parse these messages. Generally, an interface that uses ingrained brain 'hardware' to communicate is usually better than teaching everyone that signal X means Y.
You may remember that we had that article on Facetop [unc.edu]last week, where you can use your existing hand-eye coordination 'hardware' to drive the pointer. That sounds like really stellar UI. This is similar in that it would use humanlike social cues to communicate. (Then again... social cues? I must be new here.)
The only problem I'm seeing is that the facial expressions that a car can make are probably nothing like actual social cues, and that they would not be similar enough to trigger expression recognition code in your brain. Who knows.
Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? (Score:3, Insightful)
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the new kids craze (Score:5, Funny)
How long.... (Score:5, Funny)
emotional ricer.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:emotional ricer.... (Score:2)
>_<
Re:emotional ricer.... (Score:2)
Re:emotional ricer.... (Score:2)
Don't laugh (Score:5, Funny)
The minivan, with stock tires, smoked the Jag, and tied the Porsche. With one level better tires, the minivan smoked the 356 as well. Smoked it badly
Re:Don't laugh (Score:3, Interesting)
Ok, compare the DH Comet (or B-707) to the current 777. Gas turbine engines (the "jet") have been absolutely revolutionized from the 60s. Compare thrust and fuel consumption -- "orders of magnitude" would not be an exaggeration. Look at airfoil deisgn and cruising speeds -- going from Mach 0.68 or so to today's Mach 0.8. Consider design and construction techniques. No, airliners are a bad example of static technology.
Unli
Oh great (Score:3, Insightful)
Fargin Iceholes! (Score:2, Funny)
I'd set mine to "Bender"
The future is here! (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah lets take no personal responsibility (Score:3, Insightful)
But if this word's new meaning stems originally from usage by homophobic males who used their negative connotations with gay people to give power to a new insult, than it is clear that using this word is an insult to gay people (regardless if it is intended to be by any particular speaker). Every time the word is used in a negative way, it reinforces the idea that there is s
Call them automoticons (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Call them automoticons (Score:4, Funny)
Didn't the Autobots beat them up?
Prior art disclosure obligations and Benny (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Prior art disclosure obligations and Benny (Score:2, Interesting)
As if my commute couldn't get worse... (Score:3, Funny)
Screw that.
Speed Buggy? (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowMainServ
Incredible! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Incredible! (Score:2)
And forget about swerving around any dogs in the road...
This is gonna look hilarious (Score:2, Funny)
I propose that along with the car that has the expressions, when they get i
Re:This is gonna look hilarious (Score:2)
And? (Score:2)
Snideness noted, but what exactly is "broke" here?
Re:And? (Score:2)
Patent critique? (Score:5, Interesting)
At least to me, this is not an obvious idea.
Unless of course, you have a Japanese sense of imagination. I'd trust the people who invented Domo-kun [corrupt.net] , Vending machines for 'used' underwear [photomann.com] and heated, self-deodorizing toilets [theplumber.com] to come up with just about anything.
Not obvious? (Score:2)
Herbie the Love Bug [amazon.com]
and, of course, his cartoon brother,
speed buggy [melaman2.com]
Re:Un-obvious???? (Score:3, Insightful)
Let's get this clear: Yes, car's have been portrayed as having emotions lots of times.
That is not original.
What is original is proposing this as a real technical solution to an actual problem, as opposed to simple anthropomorphy.
Since human faces have been drawn forever, I suppose the idea of Chernoff Faces [wolfram.com] would be obvious too. It is not.
I'll buy one when... (Score:2)
Most needed expressions... (Score:4, Insightful)
1) Oops!
2) New to area.
3) I'm completely lost.
4) Medical emergency.
5) Learner
How many times are we angry with people who just happen to be dealing with one of the above and who we would easily forgive if we knew as much?
Re:Most needed expressions... (Score:2)
6) stupid F***IN tourist go home!
Road Rage (Score:2, Insightful)
It'll never sell (Score:2)
So, the patent office has never heard of (Score:2)
So it's on the front, right? (Score:3, Funny)
Something like, 'You do not have appropriate stopping distance. Back off, or I'll test my theory by way of brakes.'
here's an idea (Score:2)
Not saying I've done it. Just an idea.
Re:So it's on the front, right? (Score:2)
I'd say that your brake lights are a good communication tool.
You can make a bumper sticker that says, "I brake for tailgaters."
Re:So it's on the front, right? (Score:3, Funny)
Do what I do.
Keep a realistic looking stuffed toy dog (even a cat does the trick) in your car -- it doesn't need to be big or anything -- just realistic looking. Then, when someone is tailgating you, calmly roll down your window and release Fido (make sure your hand doesn't stick out too far -- ruins the realism).
Trust me..
Tailgaters (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously, the danger from tailgating is that they might rear-end you (duh). If you slowly reduce your speed this greatly reduces the risk of a high-speed read end collision while simultaneously giving them a great incentive to stop tailgating. They're doing it because they think it'll get them to their destination faster. I simply make it clear to them that they'll NEVER get there if they insist on tailgating me.
In my experience, most people get the hint and back off.
Automobile voice chat (Score:2)
Maybe the radio receivers could tell which direction a transmission was coming from, and provide cues to people in the car (by positioning the voice across the speakers, or something).
Or maybe that wouldn't be necessary, in Counter-Strike you don't necessarily know the location of your teammates, but the voice chat helps immensely.
I think one of the problems with driving, that cau
Re:Automobile voice chat (Score:2)
Conversely, how often have you wanted to pick up the blonde in the next car. Or warn oncoming traffic that you just passed a speed trap. Or call the guy puttering along in the fast lane a retarded road-turd.
Either way, this is long overdue. CB has numerous usability issues that come from its nature as a radio transmission. Maybe that could be fi
Driving is serious business. (Score:2)
Driving is serious business.
Driving is not a time to help someone find a pen. It is time to follow the rules of the road. Don't mess with the rules, just follow them.
If you have other business to deal with, take care of it some other time.
Thanks,
A Decent Driver
Re:Automobile voice chat (Score:3, Insightful)
That said, when you commute you're traveling as part of a community of drivers. I think that having the ability to convey a limited set of phrases ('go ahead', 'thank you', 'sorry/my bad') would be beneficial. Pre-programmed voice macros would solve the problem: g
Personal contact (Score:3, Insightful)
Hmmm, Is This Good? (Score:3, Insightful)
dayam i m getting one of those fo sho (Score:2)
elementry school - police car VW bug did it. (Score:2)
it had a modified hood mouth that opened and closed to "talk"
and the fenders would move too I think.
also had a hat
bAH! (Score:2, Funny)
Yeah, whatever.... (Score:5, Insightful)
or making them safer (fundementally instead of bigger and heavier)
or better communication integration for the ever-pressed-to-the-ear cell phones
or better collision avoidance systems
or making headlights that can be "ub3r" that don't blind everyone on the road
Yeah, making sure the car has emotions and becomes more distracting is a stellar idea. Yesh.
Re:Yeah, whatever.... (Score:4, Insightful)
These are the Japanese we're talking about here, not the American auto industry. Their cars are the most gas-efficient mass-produced cars you can get in the US. They're making some larger SUVs, but only because that's what Americans want to buy. You can still buy a high-efficiency Civic.
>or better communication integration for the ever-pressed-to-the-ear cell phones
Have you seen the Acura's Bluetooth integration?
>or better collision avoidance systems
So we can have every slashdotter bitch about how that takes away from their control and they can't trust an automated system to do their avoidance for them?
>or making headlights that can be "ub3r" that don't blind everyone on the road
Yeah, what's up with that? We want lights that put out tons of visible light and throw it out far, but that won't blind anyone who looks at them. Is that so hard?
Adjustable body height (Score:2)
There's an easier solution.... (Score:2)
"Every car should be required to have a cell phone, and the license plate is the phone number".
I can just imagine what kind of chaos that would cause...
Closely related (Score:5, Insightful)
Better yet... (Score:3, Funny)
lamenessfilter, dont use caps, blah blah blah
Re:Closely related (Score:5, Funny)
a) too nice of a person to let you go 110 and get a ticket.
b) driving a car too tall to fit underneath the truck in the lane next to me.
c) pretending I'm in NASCAR by letting you draft 3 inches from my bumper.
d) secretly amused by your obvious frustration.
Re:Closely related (Score:3)
Tailgating doesn't take "balls", it takes stupidity and a disregard for the safety of others. If you need to prove your manhood by driving recklessly then there isn't much there to prove the existance of anyway.
how does that work? (Score:2, Insightful)
Finally! (Score:2)
If this were compared to most software patents, it would be a patent for the concept of using an automatic transmission gear-shifter, decades after nearly every car has an automatic transmission.
"Awake" car (Score:2)
So it has an erect antenna and it's batting eyebrows uh? I'm sure this car has great pimping potential...
Chevron with Techron? (Score:2)
"Damn you, KITT!" (Score:2)
"I'm sorry, Michael - I honestly thought it would make them happy if I winked at them!"
Cleaning up after it? (Score:2)
Why don't they make them really representative (Score:2, Funny)
Or is Chevy already trying to do that with the Corvette?
That was really from the Onion, right?! (Score:3, Funny)
"Pick up" Lines (Score:3, Funny)
Ford F-250 winks at the cute little Toyota Echo.
"Hey good lookin', what's a car like you doin' on a highway like this?"
Will that be premium or supreme?
Can I change your oil?
And my personal favorite:
Wanna flash me?
Thank you, I'll be here all night. Don't forget to tip your waitress and try the steak...
The only thing I need to communicate to drivers... (Score:3, Funny)
This system is sufficient for any and all inter-driver communication needs I could ever imagine.
Prior art (Score:4, Funny)
The adverts (or parodys) are gonna be great.. (Score:3, Funny)
Excellent idea (Score:4, Interesting)
That would explain why drivers start acting like enraged apes as soon as they enter their cars: They are limited to honking, blinking, acceleration and hand signals.
Kreegah, bundolo!
Sadly... (Score:2)
Ever booted a (much older) Mac with a bad disk? Or shutdown improperly and cause loss of data? It cries!
Re:Emotive crap. (Score:2)