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Cell Phone Directory Coming Soon 219

applemasker writes "According to this story on Yahoo News via the L.A. Times, an upcoming cell phone directory which supposedly includes 75% of all cell users is in the works. Some people are already receiving cell phone spam and telemarketing calls. Worse yet, unless you opt-out at the beginning of your contract, some carriers such as T-Mobile can gladly hand over your info (though the article says that T-Mobile is changing the contract now). Some good news though, Verizon Wireless has said that it will not share its customer lists. Still, maybe it's time to submit your cell number to the Do Not Call List if you haven't done so already." We had a related story last year.
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  • Do Not Call List (Score:5, Interesting)

    by davidmcn ( 606752 ) <> on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:11PM (#9208979) Homepage
    I just assumed the Do Not Call list was to apply to cell phones too, so when it came time to enroll, every number in my household, cell and not, became a "Do Not Call" number.
    • Re:Do Not Call List (Score:5, Interesting)

      by baudilus ( 665036 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:21PM (#9209100)
      The Do Not Call list could not have applied to cell phones because previously, telemarketers were barred from calling any phone where the receiver of the call could be charged for it (i.e. cell phone minutes). I guess that law has changed since inception, or otherwise, the cell phone companies have found a way to make incoming telemarketer calls "free."

      Conversely (and perhaps slightly O/T), I've always been suspicious of the Do Not Call list, because if you consider it, on one hand it's like a free list that unscrupulous telemarketers can get and spam, and on the other hand, the "gub-mint" can link you email address to your phone number. (We can't call but we can sure spam that email account!) Of course you can get around it by using a quick free e-mail (like yahoo or hotmail) but who do you know outside of us savvy /.'ers, who probably have "junk" accounts anyway, would go through the trouble of setting one up just for this?
    • by ericspinder ( 146776 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:45PM (#9209309) Journal
      I still get sales calls on phone sometimes, they say that they are "surveys" and once an extermination service called just "because someone in the area needed their service". Those kind of calls are allowed by the DNC list. Trust me you will see more and more of them and with cell phone number avaiable, they might be hitting them hard. Right now telemarketers have a good list of people who will take the time to listen, but cell phones are a fresh market. Heck there are many teenagers and young adult who only use cell phones, they will want to tap that market. If the value of this fresh market is judged by the telemarketers to be greater than the costs (fines), we'll be seeing bunches of calls on our once private numbers, at least until it levels out.

      I still use the same old line that I used before the DNC list "I do not ever, ever respond in any way to unsolisited telephone calls of any type. Please take me off your list and I hope that you have a nice day ".

  • Expensive (Score:5, Interesting)

    by thgreatoz ( 623808 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:12PM (#9208997)
    I thought telemarketing to a cell phone was illegal, due to the fact that you are charged for both incoming and outgoing calls on a cell phone. As I understood it, it's similar to the anti-junk fax laws, which were put in place because you pay for the ink and paper that is wasted.
    • Re:Expensive (Score:5, Informative)

      by TheBeardIsRed ( 695409 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:15PM (#9209033)
      it is, read more here: How To Make A Telemarketer Cry (or, Suing Bozos for Fun & Profit) -
    • Re:Expensive (Score:2, Insightful)

      by periol ( 767926 )
      Right, and I'm sure you know just how well the "anti-junk fax laws" work. Or maybe you don't have one of them fax machines.
    • Re:Expensive (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Custard ( 587661 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:21PM (#9209096) Homepage Journal
      What if they call you on nights or weekends when you happen to have free minutes? I bet the law doesn't consider that, but a telemarketer could make a good argument in court with that defense...
      • But you are still paying for the priviledge of having unlimited nights/weekends. And not everyone gets that kind of plan either.
      • what if im on the 10 dollar/mo prepaid plan and don't get "free mins"?
      • Yes, but there's really no way for them to know if you have a plan that has free nights and weekends.

        Unless, of course, the phone company gives them your number AND what kind of plan you have, which would be really, really scummy.
      • The law says that unsolicited telemarketing to cell phones is illegal. The law doesn't say it's illegal only if you are paying for minutes, it just says it's illegal. The telemarketer can argue 'till he's blue in the face, and that won't change the law.

        At the same time, like spammers, many telemarketers don't care about the law.

        I never put my cell phone on the national (or state) Do Not Call list, because I'm not receiving telemarketing calls to it anyway. I've had 2-3 since I've had it, and I've had

        • The law says that unsolicited telemarketing to cell phones is illegal. The law doesn't say it's illegal only if you are paying for minutes, it just says it's illegal. The telemarketer can argue 'till he's blue in the face, and that won't change the law.

          Good point. Well it's good for once to have a law written for the protection of the consumer, rather than the business.
      • Roaming (Score:5, Funny)

        by grahamsz ( 150076 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @06:10PM (#9209489) Homepage Journal
        How can a telemarketer know if you are roaming or not?

        Sure i might have free minutes when i'm in colorado, or even the usa. But if i fly home to britain i'll be paying for every second.

        Another peeve of mine is that they don't consider the time of day where your phone terminates.. as such when i was living in the UK, i'd get telemarketer calls at 1am since I found it convenient to have a 303 (Denver) number.

        It should be illegal to call a phone if it's possible that it rings in a country where it's after 9pm.
        • It should be illegal to call a phone if it's possible that it rings in a country where it's after 9pm.
          What about people who work weird hours? A call at noon might interupt their sleep. How about just no telemarketing calls ever?
      • What if they call you on nights or weekends when you happen to have free minutes?
        What about those of us who have prepaid plans or some other plan without any free time? I have Virgin Mobile, but since they use Sprint my phone number has the same first three digits as Sprint customers in my area, so it'll be hard to tell what carrier I'm really using.
    • The fact that it costs my company money hasn't stopped people from spamming the hell out of me. Why should it stop people from telemarketing to our cell phones?
      • Re:Expensive (Score:3, Interesting)

        by pavon ( 30274 )
        The fact that it costs my company money hasn't stopped people from spamming the hell out of me. Why should it stop people from telemarketing to our cell phones?

        1) Telemarketing cell phones is definately illegal while the spam laws are worthless.
        2) Telemarketers can be easily traced and caught while spammers cannot.

        I have gotten two telemarketing calls on my cell phone (both of which were quasi-legitimate purchase "follow-up" calls) and both times when I told them I was on a cell phone they immediately
    • it's similar to the anti-junk fax laws, which were put in place because you pay for the ink and paper that is wasted.

      Its a damn good thing(tm) that bandwidth, disk storage, and my time are not wasted on other unwanted marketing ploys.
    • My work still gets junk faxes so I'm pretty sure that they won't mind calling your cell phones once they buy the list from the carriers.
  • Never get calls (Score:5, Interesting)

    by lukewarmfusion ( 726141 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:14PM (#9209014) Homepage Journal
    I almost never get telemarketing calls on my cell. I get a wrong number sometimes.

    As soon as I get a telemarketer calling my cell phone, I demand their name, number, organization, address, etc. (as the DNC registry stipulates). Then I will inform them that I will be sending a bill to that address to recover the cost of the minutes that their company just used for me.

    Once, I got a telemarketer and as soon as I realized who it was I informed them that it was a cell. She apologized profusely and voluntarily put me on their do-not-call list.

    I'm in Indiana, so we have a stricter DNC anyway. :)
    • Thank god the DNC doesn't work like the CAN-SPAM act... I couldn't handle getting so many calls for V1@g.RA.
    • I've had similar experiences with my phone at work. Somehow a telemarketer got my work number, and as soon as I told them they'd called a business number, they split. Too bad it doesn't work with Oracle salespeople though. (I'm in Indiana too, incidentally.)
    • You ever get calls where the number on the display is FAKE?

      I get those from telemarketers all the time; when I come home in the evening, I check my call display, and call back #'s I don't recognize.. At least once every week I get a call from a phone # that the number is not in service.
      • A couple of times I tried calling back the caller number after a TM call. In UK you can dial a number to get the number of the last incoming call. When I tried the number, I got a message saying the number was for outgoing calls only. In other words the caller ID is spoofed because the number is useless.

        Clever idea though.
    • I'm in Indiana, so we have a stricter DNC anyway. :)

      I thought the Federal DNC law pre-empted any local laws. I thought that's why some people were upset at the federal law when their state had a perfectly good law in place already.
  • by MacGod ( 320762 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:15PM (#9209028)
    Maybe I'm naieve, but I personally think this would be a good idea. Telemarketers are irriting, no question, but worse still is losing a phone number and being unable to find it. I don't have to refer to the phone-book too often for landlines, but every time I do, it saves me mucho effort or results in me being able to contact someone I otherwise would not be able to.
    • by sixteenraisins ( 67316 ) <> on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:22PM (#9209106) Homepage
      I understand that for many of us, a mobile phone is as fundamental as a land line phone at home. For many others, a mobile phone is the only phone they have.

      However, I'm sure I'm not the only one who views a mobile phone as follows: The phone is for ME to call PEOPLE, not the other way around. The only people I want to receive mobile calls from (indeed, this applies to home line calls as well) are the people to whom I GIVE the number. That's why my home number is unlisted.

      I can count on both hands the number of people who have my mobile number, and I like it that way. I would much rather see this directory be opt-in only.
  • by atari2600 ( 545988 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:16PM (#9209038)
    It is like a firewall - take the call once.
    *Phone rings*
    Me: who's this? Them: We are calling to see how many children you have..
    Me:I have registered this number in the Do not call registry
    There you go :)

    What can i say? I am a lonely guy :)
  • by darth_MALL ( 657218 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:16PM (#9209042)
    Admittedly, I know only a bit about cel-phones, but the many people I know and work with tend to change numbers frequently. What's practical about a list like this, if the information is consistantly out-of-date? I realise an electronic DB would be easy enough to keep current, but who's goign to use it (besides spammers?)
    • Well.. now that the cellular number portability laws are in effect nationwide (atleast it will be in a couple days), many will be able to keep thier numbers to switch to different carriers. However, there still might be those that do switch their numbers. However, it makes it tough say, for example, if that number was on the list and the new owner of the number doesn't want it posted. You might run into a few problems.
  • funny- when I first signed up for the Federal DNC list, it asked me to provide up to 5 phone numbers. Didn't anybody else enter their cell numbers at that point?
  • Great! (Score:5, Funny)

    by stinkyfingers ( 588428 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:17PM (#9209054)
    So the bastard next to me in the movie theater can ruin the experience by getting a call from a jackass he *doesn't* know?
    • Re:Great! (Score:2, Funny)

      by MrBlackBand ( 715820 )
      It's Inconsiderate Cell Phone Telemarketing Guy!

      ICPTG (Shouting at a funeral): I can save how much on my long distance? Sweeeeeeeet!

  • Terrible!!!!! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Mz6 ( 741941 ) * on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:17PM (#9209056) Journal
    With the abundance of web pages that allow users to simply type in a cell-phone number and a text message, I feel this might be a huge mistake publishing all of these numbers. How long would it take for a spam bot to cultivate through the database, pick-up all the numbers and spam them? My guess is that it shouldn't take more than a day to do.

    "Wireless carriers say they doubt there will be widespread abuse. They point out that most mobile phones come equipped with caller ID, distinctive ring tones, call blocking and other tools to manage unwanted calls. And several carriers say they have made refunds to subscribers who have received unwanted calls. "

    What they fail to understand is that, atleast with my carrier (Sprint), text messages pop up all the time. I have no options to block text messages from certain users, or only allow messages from those in my phone book. I think the biggest area won't be the unwanted calls, but rather the unwanted text messages that cost about as much as it does to send spam messages.

    By far.. Worst idea EVER!

    • Not to mention, on most plans, one pays for text messages received [either deducted from a package of a number messages that one buys for a certain amount of money each month or charged a fee for using more messages than the number bought]. The inbox sizes are also quite small; even a small bit of spam would be even more annoying as it could quickly fill a relatively small quota.
    • Re:Terrible!!!!! (Score:2, Insightful)

      by prshaw ( 712950 )
      >>How long would it take for a spam bot to cultivate through the database, pick-up all the numbers and spam them?

      Why bother go through the database? Why not just spend a message to every number possible? It doesn't cost them anything to send the message, so they don't care if it is really in use or not.

    • Re:Terrible!!!!! (Score:5, Informative)

      by The_K4 ( 627653 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:50PM (#9209346)
      I have sprint and have only gotten 1 spam sms message to my phone in 5 years i've had a cell. I reported it to SPRINT PCS and the tech said that with the exact time of the message and the number it was sent to they could get the IP address of the sender's computer. If you get spam on your phone report it!
    • Here's a place where a whitelist would work without being a problem.
      A feature to block all messages from numbers not in the phones directory. The phone should just discard them without notifying you at all.
    • Why even bother with a database or a web frontend?
      for ($i=1111111111;$i<=9999999999;$i++)
  • old news (Score:3, Interesting)

    by arabagast ( 462679 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:18PM (#9209061) Homepage
    This has been avaiable here in Norway for several years now.. allthough I do imagine there is a certain difference in volume between Norway and the US. Had a funny experience with this btw, one day when I was bored, I looked up my number in one of the online catalogs - and behold, they had gotten hold of even more information about me than I ever gave my cell provider, it was kinda scary I can tell you :)
    • In Europe... (Score:2, Informative)

      by Jott42 ( 702470 )
      You have to remeber that they are talking about the US. It is new there. And it is a problem, as they are paying for incoming calls. And they seem to not have a general, working do-not-call registry(?).
      Strange, but true.

      (Have Karma, flame away...)
  • by winsk ( 117756 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:18PM (#9209067)
    According to this article [], the CTIA claims that all the carriers who are going along with the plan are doing so on an opt-in basis for existing customers, and an opt-out basis for new customers, without any additional fees.
  • ... outlaw the use of the "star codes" that block caller ID (*67).
    • by pknoll ( 215959 ) <> on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:41PM (#9209275)
      This is already illegal for telemarketers. In 2004, the government's amended telemarketing sales regulations proscribed the sending of their phone number when calling and, if possible, their name.
    • There are already facilities to block calls block their caller ID information. Not only for cell phones, but for land lines as well.

      From this site [] (which I believe is standard across land lines):

      Anonymous Call Block--(Included with Caller ID and Caller ID on Call Waiting, and available as a stand alone feature.) This option has some notable caveats, so please understand what it will and will not do before ordering or activating. Basically, this features allows you to reject calls coming from parties w

  • Jerks (Score:4, Insightful)

    by thebra ( 707939 ) * on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:26PM (#9209143) Homepage Journal
    Until recently, when customers switched carriers, their numbers changed as well, so marketers were reluctant to invest much in compiling databases.

    For once I thought that something good was being done for the mistake.
  • by claykarmel ( 78187 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:28PM (#9209170)
    I run my business from my PCS phone.

    Did you know that you CANNOT get a white pages listing for your cell phone unless you get your cell phone service from your local RBOC?

    Try getting a D&B on a number they can't verify with the RBOC!
    • by Ween ( 13381 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @06:35PM (#9209680)
      I currently run my business with my cell phone. What I did was contact my local land line phone provider (sprint) and asked for a business forwarding number. It is about $12 a month, gets you a listing in the white pages and most importantly, gets you a listing in the yellow pages under the heading of your choice. They then give you a unique local number and that number just forwards calls to whatever number you tell them. In my case, it was my cell phone. You give people your local number number and magically your cell phone always rings. I have not once ever gotten a long distance bill, even if the people who called me were far away, not so far away, or just in the extended local long area. Seems to be quite a good deal.
    • Then forward that number to your cell. Its extra $30 a month or a $1 day.
  • but I wouldn't trust any "do not call" registry. You're handing out your cell number in blind trust that the list won't be adulterated in the future. It's just like those opt-out links at the bottom of spam - it will likely only alert spammers that it's a "live" and important contact.

    Trust no one.
    • You may not trust the DNC list, but my experience is that we received a *lot* of telemarketing calls to the landline phone prior to the DNC list. Then both the national DNC list and the Texas DNC list went into effect, we were on both, and the number of telemarketing calls dropped dramatically. I'm much happier for it.
  • SprintPCS (Score:5, Interesting)

    by wytcld ( 179112 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:34PM (#9209222) Homepage
    With SprintPCS I was getting occassional spam text messages, so I when to their Website and turned that feature off - except then I kept getting spam text messages from ... SprintPCS. I had to call and have them "unprovision" text messaging entirely in order to get any assurance that they could stop themselves from spamming me!
  • Cell phone spam (Score:4, Interesting)

    by maeltor ( 679257 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:34PM (#9209226)
    Some people are already receiving cell phone spam and telemarketing calls.
    I've gotten cell phone spam on every carrier i've been with for the past 2 years (3 carriers). TMobile was the worst....i got 25 spam messages in one day. I also got billed for it (SMS overuse). They claimed that since I never logged in to change my "cell phone number email address" on TMobile's site, I was getting the messages and didn't try to prevent them. Man did that customer retention supervisor get her ass chewed. After I got done with her, I ended up with a new phone, a changed "email address" and 4 months free :)
  • FCC and Rulemaking! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by enforcer999 ( 733591 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:43PM (#9209288) Journal
    The FCC []is in the process of making rules to protect consumers regarding cell phones and spam. On another related note: The American Teleservices Association [] filed a petition asking the U.S. Supreme Court to review the constitutionality of the National Do Not Call Registry. If the Court takes the case, I do not believe that they will over turn the 10th Circuit's decision.
  • Verizon sucks (Score:5, Insightful)

    by -tji ( 139690 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @05:45PM (#9209306) Journal
    Verizon already phone spams their own customers.

    About a month ago, I got one of those annoying automated calls offering me "great new services" through Verizon. The recording said "Push 1 for more information".

    So, I pushed '1' and waded went through several levels of systems until I could talk to a human. I asked him to set all my privacy preferences to prohibit any further calls or sharing of my personal information, and he was totally lost at how to proceed. He acted as if this was an unprecedented request.. "I don't have any idea how I could do that. We don't have any settings for that in the user accounts."

    After spending 30 minutes on the phone with this guy, I was pissed to have wasted so much time and just wanted to hang up. But he agreed to submit some paper form that was supposed to ensure this did not happen again.. He did not inspire a lot of confidence, but I haven't gotten another call.. yet.
    • Telemarketing calls using an artificial or prerecorded voice are illegal under the TCPA.
    • Funny... never had any problems with spam on my Verizon Wireless phone (3 years, same number). Not from them, not from anybody. I keep *wanting* to hate them because they're a big evil phone company, but the bastards just won't do anything sufficiently dastardly. Though I hear their land line stuff is a bit shadier.
      • The only thing VZ and VZW shares is the name.... the companies are run completely independently, for regulatory reasons ...

        Oh, and the fact that the death spiral at landline won't infect the cash cow (wireless) that way!!
  • I can never remember my home phone number and they are always kind enough to inform me what my number is, right before I call hang up on them.

    They are so much fun. As soon as I realize it is them, I put the phone down and walk away for a few minutes. Political callers are the best, as, I usually spout some anti-Capitalist, anti-Democratic stuff their way.

    Hm, maybe I should un-register my home phone, I do so love messing with the telemarketers.

    Now, my cell is another story. I have an international cell
  • by NIN1385 ( 760712 )
    I have wireless service through iwireless(formerly Iowa Wireless) who is an affiliate of tmobile. They recently sent me a notice that they were raising their prices by like 3 dollars. The reason they said they were raising the price is because of the bill that passed allowing a customer to take their cell phone number with them anywhere they go.

    I have many friends with cell phones through different companies, and none of the other companies seem to be raising their prices at all because of this bill. T

  • T-Mobile (Score:5, Interesting)

    by JuggleGeek ( 665620 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @06:02PM (#9209423)
    I'm not surprised that T-Mobile has been selling personal information. They also send email spam, via "affiliates". I'm shopping for a new cell phone (camera phone) to replce my old cell phone, and the spam they sent me kept them from consideration. Never do business with spammers.
  • by Caeda ( 669118 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @06:55PM (#9209842)
    All cell phones are already a "Do Not Call" telemarketing item. You don't have to be on any list because its the same as a fax machine. You pay the charges for the call because its your minutes, and so they can be reported and fined with no signup.
  • do-not-call webbots (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mabu ( 178417 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @07:21PM (#9210093)
    a scan of the do-not-call registry page reveals this little tidbit:
    src=" njs.gif?dcsuri=/nojavascript"

    Nice of AT&T to be monitoring/logging all the traffic to that site.

    I won't register because they have no business associating an IP or e-mail with a telephone number in an opt-out list.
    • That's because the page is *hosted* by AT&T.

      Anyway, turn off javascript if it worries you... They are still gonna get your ip address of course, even w/o JS, so you can still be paranoid.
      • All the other references are under the main domain. It's obvious AT&T wants to log the traffic to that page. It's none of their business. Yes, they may have access to the info anyway, but it's sleazy and unethical in my opinion.

        I wouldn't sign up for the list regardless. It's not a question of paranoia. It's a question of common sense. There are as many loopholes in the DNC system as there are creative ways the government will probably use the information beyond its original intent.
      • Name:


        No ethical reason for a webbot to be in that page, going to a completely separate network. Period.
  • I can cross index this the liscense plates, and I can call the bozo who just cut me off, when they get off th phone.
    I can see it now:
    "Is this Paul?"
    Paul Bozo?"
    "yes, who is this?"
    "This is the person you just cut off. Have a nice day."

    Let the paranoia begin!

  • 75% of _all_ mobile users is a big call...I don't think all the Australian cell users will be too worried about this.
  • by Proc6 ( 518858 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @08:35PM (#9210520)
    I just got a new cellphone yesterday and I started thinking... I have 5 phone numbers in my area code just of my own and Im just an average guy. With so many people having a home phone, a cell phone, a work phone, often a fax number or a second line for (heaven forbid) dialup access, that kind of thing... it sure seems like 9 million phone numbers isn't very many for a given area code... Maybe it is, I dont know, but I think theres a few million PEOPLE in my city, let alone the other 1/3 the state that share the same area code, and if most of those have 2-3 phone numbers... seems suprising to fit them all within that 9 million cap?
  • by Anonymous Coward
    As far as I know it, in New Zealand, Australia, Europe and Asia, it's free to receive cellphone calls, generally speaking. Callers can tell by the phone number prefix that it's a cell phone, and they pay when they call.

    (Yes, that means you can receive all the calls you like on your cellular phone for something like $10 US per year to stay connected.)

    There are schemes like call-diversion that send calls to (e.g.) your home phone line to your cellphone. In these cases the cellphone user pays because they ma
  • by SnapperHead ( 178050 ) on Thursday May 20, 2004 @09:50PM (#9210890) Homepage Journal
    I registered my cell phone and house line at the same time. Since I use my cell more then my house line, I figured it was important.

    However, there are a lot of ways for telemarketers to get around it. First off, they claim its not a sales call, when it fact it damn sure is. Second, they make it look like it was something I requested.

    I got 5 calls total from a local (same state) car dealer. They claim I submitted a request via and couldn't verify anything beyond that. They also claimed all of this was via E-Mail and I was talking to a rep for 2 weeks about a car.

    a) They couldn't verify my E-Mail address, opps sorry, its listed as unknown or invaild.
    b) Its a car I never would buy to begin with.
    c) I called there managment each time telling them to stop calling me before I file a complaint.

    Needless to say, not only did I file a complaint with the FTC, I also filed a complaint with the BBB and the local police. They are looking into changes being pressed for harrasment.

    This is the only problem I have had so far with cell phones and telemarketers. Eitherway, I would be VERY pissed if they called my phone, if I didn't have an unlimited package through nextel, so for me its not a big deal.

    I just hope if they are building a directory of cell phone numbers, they include some sort of feature to allow customers to request there names and numbers NOT be included.
  • by Mr_Silver ( 213637 ) on Friday May 21, 2004 @05:37AM (#9213187)
    It's worth pointing out that in the UK (and most of Europe) the caller pays for the call and not the receiver.

    After all, if you want a service (eg. to talk to someone) it seems only fair that you should pay for it and not someone else - when I go to get my hair cut, it's not as if the barber pays me for the privilidge of me coming to him.

    Because of this, cold calling by companies to mobile phone users is virtually non-existant.

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