New Net Battle Over ".mobile" Looming 233
John IPsen writes "A group of big companies, including Nokia, Vodafone and Microsoft, today applied to ICANN to have a new ".mobile" domain in the next round of new Internet domains for connecting phones and PDAs to the Internet. But while they say they aren't aware of any competition, it seems that some others have been preparing their bids for a lot longer and a big battle may be brewing. More here."
add this to /etc/sendmail/access (Score:5, Funny)
Right where it belongs, along with
Re:add this to /etc/sendmail/access (Zombie PDAs) (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:add this to /etc/sendmail/access (Score:2)
slashdot.organization (Score:2, Interesting)
Alabama City TLD (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Alabama City TLD (Score:5, Informative)
Biloxi is in Mississippi.
D'oh! (Score:3, Insightful)
Unless it is restricted, sites associated with the city of Mobile will likely want to get domains at this TLD, just like those television sites use the Tuvalu country (.tv) domain.
Re: Alabama City TLD (Score:5, Funny)
> Where's
In Wales you'd need a
Re: Alabama City TLD (Score:3, Interesting)
And regarding your sig as it currently is, Homer looks like Krusty because originally there was going to be some sort of plot about how Bart didn't respect his father, but respected a clown who looked just like him. Didn't pan out, but they kept the character.
.mob? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:.mob? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:.mob? (Score:5, Insightful)
So, for example, http://google/ would take you to google.mobile on a cell phone.
That's the impression I got from the article, anyway:
The application could turn out to be more politically charged than its proponents hope, because the mobile domain is not just another Internet domain like
Re:.mob? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:.mob? (Score:3, Interesting)
Ideally, mobile phones should get special dispensations -- numeric-only URLs, no document extensions, etc. I've written a few WML apps, and the biggest challenge was making them easy to get to via the keypad. Something like tiny url -- concentrating on numbers and the letters a,d,g,j,m,p,t and w -- worked best.
Re:.mob? (Score:2)
And, as a matter of fact, it does work quite nicely. It's basically a T9-to-Google interface - instead of having to hit a key multiple times to select one of the specific characters that a key maps to (ie. hit the "7" key 4x to get a "s") you just need to hit it once, and let the algorithm figure what you meant)
Re:.mob? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:.mob? (Score:3, Insightful)
Or are they saving that for when single cells get their own IPv4 er v6..... v128?
Re:.mob? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:.mob? (Score:2)
(
Wireless (and IPv6) (Score:2)
Which makes me immediately think of my (accursed) 2.4GHz cordless house phone or my (interfered with) WiFi.
As a motorcycling fending off idiots every commute: .distractedDriver
.annoyingYuppie?
Perhaps it would better be
Though I DO like .5 (or .6 - see below) :)
IPv6
They can have a TLD, but it must not be populated with ANYTHING in the IPv4 name space. eg:
You must be THIS ----------------->
Re:.mob? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:.mob? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:.mob? (Score:2)
People are already racing to register goatse.mob.
Re:.mob? (Score:2)
too long a name (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:too long a name (Score:5, Informative)
Re:too long a name (Score:2)
Re:too long a name (Score:2)
Re:too long a name (Score:2)
Re:too long a name (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:too long a name (Score:2)
Imaging how long it would take to type in a 6 digit TLD, like
Re:too long a name (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:too long a name (Score:3, Interesting)
I propose the new TLD be easy on the keypads, how about
yahoo.5
sprintpcs.5
Nice and easy to type in, well, at least the TLD part of it.
Re:too long a name (Score:2)
Why the hell do I want text messaging and all the other crap? If I want to send a message, I'll fricking call someone and leave a message.
Geez. I know marketing-and-business why it has to be so complicated, by WHY does it have to be so complicated?
me first? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:me first? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:me first? (Score:2)
Re:me first? (Score:3, Funny)
Uhm... no... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Uhm... no... (Score:2)
Mobile's by their nature are going to be wandering all over the place. Try telling your local drug dealer that he's got to give out his permanent name and address to ICANN.
Re:Uhm... no... (Score:2)
Re:Uhm... no... (Score:2)
.mobile why do we need another? (Score:3, Interesting)
A more user friendly suggestion (Score:2)
.mobile is too long. (Score:5, Funny)
rcpt to: path@sprint.mbolie^H^H^H^H^H
501 5.5.6 You're an IDIOT
CRAP!
501 5.5.7 That doesn't work either.
rcpt to: path@sprunt.mlobie^H^H^H^H
501 5.5.8 Nope. Not even close.
rcpt to: path@sprint.mobil
501 5.5.9Try Exxon
ad nauseum.
Verbosity? (Score:5, Insightful)
Long TLDS distract from the domain names themselves: which looks better, www.slashdot.org or www.slashdot.nonprofitorganization?
Re:Verbosity? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Verbosity? (Score:2)
maybe their mobile news web site will be news.com.com.mobile?
Re:Verbosity? (Score:2, Funny)
Missing link... (Score:3, Informative)
Ya know... (Score:4, Interesting)
Like it will matter, people will just continue to find unique domains and register stuff like
myphonenumber.com
myphonenumber.net
myphonenu
myphonenumber.biz
myphonenumber.cc
myp
myphonenumber.de
myphonenumber.mx
Because, what if, forbid, someone just randomly types in myphonenumber.mx, but doesn't try myphonenumber.com. Oh no!
Re:Ya know... (Score:2)
People are not used to this (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:People are not used to this (Score:2)
Not your ordinary TLD (Score:5, Insightful)
It's mostly marketing but it's a good idea (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:It's mostly marketing but it's a good idea (Score:2, Informative)
Wrong. http://www.opera.com/products/smartphone/
Why do we need more TLD (Score:2)
The conspiracy behind the domain (Score:3, Funny)
What about the keypads. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:What about the keypads. (Score:2)
it'd be a lot easier if it were just
Walking talking virus? (Score:2)
Isn't this going to make it easier for spammers to target cellphones?
For those that remember the UFO Tv series (Score:3, Funny)
Now, that might be a cool URL after all. I say we also register a TLD named "Alpha" so we can have moonbase.alpha
Hrmmm. You think Gerry Anderson would mind?
Six letter TLDs? (Score:4, Insightful)
"8005551212@messaging.nextel.com" works fine for me, and I don't think we need a ".mobile" until someone shows a very good reason to make one.
1) It's a lot of letters to type. .info already did possibly)
2) http://nextel.mobile/ just looks weird as hell.
3) It will break some applications (more than
4) I don't believe that it's necessary (or even convenient for a significant number of people)
Why do we have any TLDs? (Score:2)
Shame to lose that gatekeeper (Score:2)
Welcome to Slashdot!
Just getting there was the first test. Much less crap was posted back in the "Good Old Days".
Oh well... flame away all you really old people with the 3 and 4 digit UID's. I know, I'm still a newbie. *grin*
Re:Why do we have any TLDs? (Score:2)
Sigh. (Score:2)
This is fucking ridiculous. (Score:5, Insightful)
I can 'kinda' understand if Microsoft wanted
This is absolutely disgusting. It's bad enough that Verisign/NetworkSolutions/whatever has such control over
This is bullshit!
Re:This is fucking ridiculous. (Score:2)
Re:This is fucking ridiculous. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:This is fucking ridiculous. (Score:2)
The only problem is, it's not true. There are literally thousands of acts of true benevolence on the parts of major corporations every day. There are the prototypical examples (such as Ben and Jerries Ice Cream), Hasbro (huge toy donations, a rather coo
Re:This is fucking ridiculous. (Score:5, Funny)
Hey, GE put as much care and attention into designing and building GAU-8 30mm [fas.org] and M-61 20mm [fas.org] multibarrel cannon systems as they put into refrigerators and dishwashers. Customer satisfaction is important to their business. If your food spoiled, or you dishes came out dirty, or the T-72 tank you were shooting at from your A-10 warthog didn't explode, would you buy another fridge, dishwasher, or GAU-8 Avenger 30mm cannon from GE again? They're a real people company because they have to be!
And what about us small-timers? (Score:4, Interesting)
Also... not sure how many others were bothered by the presence of M$ on the committee. Don't they have enough of their toes in enough industries? Now they want to be part of the control of the TLD for the mobile space??? Add up the net-worth of all the companies involved and M$ has the most $$$ which means they have the most strongarm potential. This isn't meant as a flame war, but rather a call for each of us to submit our opinions to ICANN about the presence of M$ (who isn't really a telco-type company... but just a software company) on the committee. If M$ is going to be onboard (as a s/w company), so should Trolltech and Palm and some of the other more *open* vendors who's software are also used in mobile devices. Otherwise, all I see is yet another entity that M$ can bully its way around, not to mention the fear of the
The only thing necessary for Micro$oft to triumph is for a few good programmers to do nothing". North County Computers [nccomp.com]
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Phone numbers already are globally unique (Score:5, Insightful)
On the other hand
Sure - why not (Score:2)
What's the point? (Score:2)
Maybe I'm being ignorant here, but what do cell phones and PDAs need with DNS names anyway? What are people running on them that they need a special domain to handle all the demand for? I guess if I had a DNS name I could see whether my cell phone could handle a Slashdotting... "Grab the latest Fedora ISOs from my cell phone -- http://experiment626.attwireless.mobile". Most people don't even run servers from their home PCs that they need domain names for, what are they going to do on PDAs and cell phone
Let's just plan ahead now... (Score:2)
My new Domain (Score:2)
Saddest line of the entire article (Score:5, Insightful)
What better way to foster innovation and good ideas than to make sure the barrier to entry is so unbelievably high that even three of the largest corporations on the planet --combined-- are thought to have "barely" a chance at floating a few new letters through cyberspace?
There's articifical scarcity, then there is intellegence scarcity. Five years after ICANN's creation, we still have (for all intents and purposes) no new TLDs. How many meetings in Hawaii and Barbados has that taken?
If Microsoft wants
-JoeShmoe
.
Could have it's uses (Score:2)
Assuming was have an answer to the spam problem. I'd love to see governments make a useful pre-emptive strike, declare ANY form of communication (email, SMS, etc) with cell phones with a strict opt-in as illegal. Will n
How about a real use for voice recognition? (Score:2)
I wonder if I'll be marked as a troll for this.
enough already (Score:2, Interesting)
And terminate
Create
etc
Have, for example, ibm.com map to ibm.com.us if you are in the
The only reason me need more TLDs is because we have only 1
Make Pepsi register in every country they trade in.....
I can see it now, in the year 2050 when we live on mars and Europa
uhhh, ok (Score:2)
In fact, I can't think of a single instance in the last 3 years where I have used a "new" TLD like
Is anyone really using these or am I just out of the loop?
Biggest players? (Score:2)
Some of the biggest players in the mobile industry, including Nokia, Vodafone and Microsoft
Microsoft? I did not know they are one of the biggest players in the phone industry. Did anyone else know this?
Scam (Score:3, Insightful)
Dot coms will always rule.
I dont understand this trend (Score:2, Insightful)
mobile.nokia.com
it is a natural progression to use the prefix not the suffix. Just like www and ftp and other protocols. I don't get it
I propose the following TLDs: (Score:2)
This way real TLDs people actually want will not be taken up by wasteful webpages.
more spam (Score:2)
TLDs I'd like to see (Score:2)
.ppl (Score:2)
And a
The whole TLD system is pretty lame as it stands now due to the lack of adherance to any sort of standard.
Standard classes should be established and sites should agree to adhere to those classes.
-.com - company commercial sites.
-.or
Damn! (Score:2)
Dibs! (Score:2)
Modest proposal: .gnu, .fsf, and/or .free (Score:2)
Get ICANN to approve that and bail out of the loop. Then we can put our ideology and resources to the test.
I'd say you'd need three of 'em, administered by three separate organizations, to insure that internal problems (such as resource exhaustion or faction fights) don't imperil the availability of servce. (Just like you need a minimum of three, not two, cell carriers in a region to
How TLDs actually work. (Score:2)
What I DONT understand is how ICANN can manage to make everyone think that no other options are available.
Would it not be fairly (menaing without considerable time and expense) easly to setup a peer TLD DNS system with TLDs that we, users of the internet elect and implement.
imagine this scenario:
Vario
Stupid Ideas... (Score:2)
.mobil, .tv, .biz (Score:2)
Re:Important Opinion (Score:2)
Re:new.net (Score:2, Interesting)