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SCO Consultant S2 Strategic Consulting In Depth 176

Posted by timothy from the smackdown dept.
cdlu writes "Wondering about SCO's contractor S2? They're the people that wrote Halloween II and indemnified SCO... well, here's all you want to know about them from NewsForge." (NewsForge is part of OSDN.) Maybe not all you want to know, but enough for one day. Several readers also point out Bruce Perens' column on CNET today which reiterates the difficulty SCO faces in attempting to get past the clarification of license terms AT&T offered Unix licensees in 1985.
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  • Uh... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @07:41PM (#8516049)
    Wondering about SCO's contractor S2?
    Not really, why do you ask?

  • $2? (Score:5, Funny)

    by mattjb0010 ( 724744 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @07:46PM (#8516100) Homepage
    Phew, for a second there I thought it read "$2 Strategic Consulting".

    • Re:$2? (Score:2, Funny)

      by Frigid Monkey ( 411257 )
      "I got a $2 bill and a pack of rabid lawyers! At least MS is backing me."

      You're closer than you think! Anyone noticed SCO's Stock price today?

    • Re:$2? (Score:1)

      by kfg ( 145172 )
      I can see it now:

      "Here at Earl Scheib Legal Services we'll paint IP any color you want for just two dolla. That's right, just two dolla!"

      KFG
    • I actually read that as SCO tragic death for a second, (really, I tend to get a bit muddled when reading words at times). Still, I think I prefer my alternate title...
    • VERSE 1
      Th black smoke's arisin' must be Red Hat
      Th black smoke's arisin' must be Red Hat
      Th black smoke's arisin' must be Red Hat
      I'm on my long journey home

      CHORUS:
      I lost all my money but a two dollar bill
      Two dollar bill, a two dollar billl
      I lost all my money but two dollar bill
      I'm on my long journey home

      VERSE 2
      O, I hear IBM knockin' but I must go on
      IBM's a knockin' but I must go on
      It's IBM come knockin' but I must go on
      I'm on my long journey home

  • Finally (Score:5, Insightful)

    by savagedome ( 742194 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @07:49PM (#8516130)
    how it was able to raise so much money for a company that has had serious trouble selling its bread-and-butter products for months

    to be backing completely away from the little Utah company as the heat in the kitchen gets hotter

    What you smell cooking in the kitchen is usually what is served

    Thank God. Finally a non-SCO story. Phew.

    *wipes brow*

  • to sum it up: the emporer has no clothes (Score:3, Redundant)

    by Serveert ( 102805 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @07:53PM (#8516168)
    Microsoft is trying to kill linux via litigation, the truth is out, people are dodging questions.

  • Address for S2 Consulting is a house... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @07:54PM (#8516176)

    ...albeit a mansion. The mapquest map shows this address about as high as you can go in the salt lake valley. [mapquest.com]

    • Re:Address for S2 Consulting is a house... (Score:5, Funny)

      by HFKIRSpyderMonkey ( 759215 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:04PM (#8516253) Journal
      Interesting... if not a little creepy that you decided to map out directions to their place. I hope my address never gets /.ed
      • I just tried to mapquest my address, but it seems to have a problem. Hopefully the switch to IPv6 will fix that.

      • Darl's Address... (Score:1, Interesting)

        by Anonymous Coward
        Funny you should mention that? ;)

        Wonder if it would be possible to picket Darl's house? Betcha his neighbors wouldn't be too happy, though, and it would be kinda bad for them. I mean, they haven't done anything wrong here (at least not that we know of).

        However, should you wish to contact Darl politely, here is how to do so:

        End Reader License Agreement: By reading this, you agree not to sue me and to use this only in a legal manner.

        The SCO Group
        355 South 520 West
        Suite 100
        Lindon, Utah 84042 USA
        801-765-
    • If your address is correct, then have a look at this [terraserver.com]

  • Phone "Out of order" for several days (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Bruce Perens ( 3872 ) * <bruce@perens.com> on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @07:59PM (#8516213) Homepage Journal
    If you want the phone company to tell people that your phone is out of order, this is what to do: Dial your own number. Wait for the busy signal. Put the line on hold or leave it off the hook.

    This is probably why S2's phone has been out of order "for several days".

    Bruce

  • This case is over... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Cpl Laque ( 512294 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:05PM (#8516256) Journal
    We all know that is done done. SCO is done and if M$ doesn't cover their tracks they are done. I f you read Groklaw and I am sure many of you do SCO doesn't have a case.

    Worst case scenario IBM actually put AIX code into Linux. SCO doesn't own the code. SCO doesn't have copyright on the code. It's even in dispute with novell if SCO can even sue IBM over this AIX code anyways. Worst case is they will get a few bucks from IBM. Linux will remained unchanged. Obviously this case hasn't killed the adoption of Linux by many corporations. So I am not worried. Hell, SCOX is starting to plummet regardless of what Crazy Press Releases SCO makes. Do you think Autozone and Chrysler are worried about SCO? Even a large company would have trouble with the plethora of lawsuits SCO is dealing with and there will be more when all is said and done.

    Sleep easy slashdot No one is taking Linux from us.

    • Re:This case is over... (Score:4, Informative)

      by nastyphil ( 111738 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:45PM (#8516581)
      If you read Groklaw and I am sure many of you do SCO doesn't have a case.

      What you mean is: if Groklaw's interperatation of the facts and the law in this case is accurate and mirrored by the presiding courts, THEN SCO doesn't have a case.

      • Errr.... (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Xenographic ( 557057 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @09:43PM (#8517006) Journal
        Okay, I can understand a bit of restraint. Only the judge gets to decide which side will prevail* and even the most highly paid lawyer can't predict how cases will play out in the end.

        However, all of the information PJ of Groklaw bases her conclusions on is available to the public. It is all there for you to read, at your leisure, in the Groklaw archives. She's not asking you to believe her with respect to evidence no one else has ever seen (unlike, say, Darl...)

        That said, I will still say that SCO clearly doesn't have much of a case, even though IANAL. I mean, I seem to remember both Novell and IBM's lawyers, as well as several outside lawyers calling SCO's action against them "meritless" ... (and yes, I am aware of their vested interests, but even so...)

        * This star is here because I think that SCO has always requested jury trials for some reason. In a jury trial, the judge decides the law, and the jury decides all the facts. Thus, the judge instructs the jury about how they should vote depending on what they believe the facts of the case to be. The judge cannot decide any of the facts, not even incontrovertable ones, and to do so is a reversible error. In other words, I personally think that SCO believes themselves more able to snow a jury concerning this than a judge, but that's just me...

        • Re:Errr.... (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Citizen of Earth ( 569446 )
          I personally think that SCO believes themselves more able to snow a jury concerning this than a judge, but that's just me...

          If you're innocent, ask for a judge. If you're guilty, ask for a jury. I'm sure a similar thing works for the plaintiff.

  • Quick synompsis (Score:5, Insightful)

    by cluge ( 114877 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:05PM (#8516261) Homepage

    The more you dig into SCO, the more bovine feces you find. Some of these feces have a the distinct "redmond feces" smell, while other feces seem to have a vague odor of "corruption" and "bad legal advice". It's hard to tell the last 2 apart.

    The fact is that Microsoft had dominated the software market because the identified who/what was the industry standard and they under cut their price, and/or provided the product free OR bought out the competitor and silently buried the product. With Linux - it becomes very hard to utilize this successful strategy. This article seems to point to the developing theory that MS has taken the low road. When you can't compete, sue (in thise case finance the suer, keeping pretty hands "clean").

    In the end - this deserves more investigation. I'm still not convinced that this isn't just the most ellaborate pump and dump scheme yet devised.

    AngryPeopleRule [angrypeoplerule.com]

    • Re:Quick synompsis (Score:1, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I'm still not convinced that this isn't just the most ellaborate pump and dump scheme yet devised.

      The insiders have been seller shares since SCO first filed the suit. Their only purchases have been through the exercise of options. Not one of them has any confidence n the future of their company. Read it here [yahoo.com]. Even if this is exactly what McBride claims it is, a legitimate lawsuit, the folks who have the most knowledge about SCO's prospects for winning it are taking their money and running.

      Bruce Peren
    • The more you dig into SCO, the more bovine feces you find. Some of these feces have a the distinct "redmond feces" smell, while other feces seem to have a vague odor of "corruption" and "bad legal advice". It's hard to tell the last 2 apart.

      Another is #3. Pure stupidity. But it's a very hard to discern scent among the other scents (see #1 and 2 by previous poster). It may only exist as trace elements in the feces analysis. However, it may also be an important part of the makeup of the feces.

      More study

  • Wayback archive for S2 (Score:5, Interesting)

    by merc ( 115854 ) <slashdot@upt.org> on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:05PM (#8516263) Homepage
    Not sure how current the other listings for S2 are, but wayback machine shows their old website [archive.org], which contains some interesting demographic data (particularly, an office in Redmond, WA).
    • *GASP*

      And then you remember that there are hundreds of businesses located in Redmond, Washington. The majority of which are located within 10 or so blocks of One Microsoft Way.

      OH NOES! It's a conspiracy. Nintendo must be in on this too, right? After all, they're a mere 4 blocks from Microsoft!

      Get over it. Not everything from Redmond is internally tied to Microsoft.
      • I will probably get modded down for this but
        Would you just grow up?
        I am sure you are correct about offices in Redmond. You might agree that it is interesting that the content in their web page has been removed. Does this mean anything? Probably not. However, what harm do you see in someone posting a link to an archive of their old website?
    • The Royal Oak MI address is conveniently located near the Oakland County courthouse where the suit against DaimlerChrysler was filed.

      I might bring them a sack of bagels in the morning. See how everything is going. Be a dick for awhile.

    • What abuot lycoris ? They are in redmond too :)

  • Covered by Eric Raymond ++ on Thelinuxshow tonight (Score:5, Informative)

    by bstadil ( 7110 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:05PM (#8516266) Homepage
    Head on over to TheLinuxshow [thelinuxshow.com] tonight. Starting at 8 Central this issue will be covered in details plus a section on how to complain to the SEC [sec.gov]about MS' involvement.

    If you take the trouble on filing a formal complain to the SEC you could actualy make a difference.

    Second the MS antitrust judge Kollar Kotelly needs to be informed as well. What MS is doing is directly against her ruling.

    • Re:Covered by Eric Raymond ++ on Thelinuxshow toni (Score:1, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      American Idol won't be over at 8CST.

    • Re:Covered by Eric Raymond ++ on Thelinuxshow toni (Score:5, Informative)

      by fishbonez ( 177041 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @09:07PM (#8516760)
      Second the MS antitrust judge Kollar Kotelly needs to be informed as well. What MS is doing is directly against her ruling.

      The Technical Committee [thetc.org] is responsible for enforcing the Final Judgement [usdoj.gov] from the MS anti-trust case. You can submit complaints about MS possibly violating the Final Judgement to them. However when I emailed them, they sent me back the following reply:

      The Technical Committee has received your email dated March 9th, 2004, regarding SCO Group and Microsoft Corp. The issues you raise in your communication are not within the scope of the Technical Committee's mandate to assist the United States and the Settling States in the enforcement of the consent decree with Microsoft.

      For more information regarding the Governments' antitrust lawsuit against Microsoft or the settlement in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, the following websites may be helpful:

      http://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/microsoft-2001.html - District Court site
      http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/ms_index.htm - Department of Justice site
      http://www.microsoft-antitrust.gov - Joint States site
      http://www.microsoft.com/legal/settlementprogram - Microsoft

      Thank you for your interest in the Microsoft antitrust litigation and the Technical Committee. Any future correspondence may be addressed to complaints@thetc.org.

      I do not agree with their assessment as they are charged with enforcing the Final Judgement, which states the following:

      Section III. Prohibited Conduct

      F. Microsoft shall not retaliate against any ISV [Independent Software Vendor] or IHV [Independent Hardware Vendor] because of that ISV's or IHV's:
      1. developing, using, distributing, promoting or supporting any software that competes with Microsoft Platform Software or any software that runs on any software that competes with Microsoft Platform Software, or
      2. exercising any of the options or alternatives provided for under this Final Judgment.

      I think that MS's alleged behavior in the SCO matter clearly falls under that section and warrants an investigation. But the Technical Committee is saying that this is not their job. However, I saw no qualifiers on their website limiting their enforcement to particular sections of the Final Judgement. Perhaps when a clearer picture of MS's actions emerges, they will be more inclined to investigate but I suspect it will fall to the Justice Department to investigate.

  • "News"forge? How about Conjectureforge. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by dmccarty ( 152630 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:05PM (#8516268)
    I think SCO's tactics are as despicable [sco.com] as they come, but let's keep it fair. Somehow I doubt that this story belongs in the "News and Trends" section of Newsforge. Try the "Conjecture and Hypothesis" section instead.

    What news are they reporting? It's not news when you whine about why phone numbers didn't work and why you could get in touch with attributions (Anderer, Sontag, etc.). It's not news when you start a paragraph with "That leaves us, for now, with a couple of major unanswered questions." News reporters answer questions; they don't ask them. And it's not news when your story is speckled with "imagine all the partnering," "Anderer appears to be" and "what you smell cooking in the kitchen is usually what is served."

    Give me a break. I'm all for Linux advocacy [newsforge.com], but let me know when you have some real news.

    • I guess you haven't read mainstream news lately. There are planty news articles that end with "The call to YYY from ZZZ company did not return the call.". Acording you your logic, most of the news stories out there would be "Conjecture and Hypothesis".
      • Acording you your logic, most of the news stories out there would be "Conjecture and Hypothesis".

        Actually it's true. Most news stories out there are utter crap. I can't trust the newspapers, radio or television. And I certainly can't trust the internet or slashdot! Instead I have to pick out those few phrases here or there that aren't padded with weasel words, remove all adjectives, and still continue to doubt them without further substantiation.

        The news lies to you. The New York Times lies to you. CBS,
        • I'd trust you but since you posted on slashdot, I can't, but if I can't trust you, your statement must be true but you posted on slashdot... My head hurts.

        • Re:"News"forge? How about Conjectureforge. (Score:4, Insightful)

          by Jeremi ( 14640 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:55PM (#8516671) Homepage
          When the same news sources reported that 5.6% unemployment under Clinton Good, but currently report that 5.6% unemployment under Bush is Bad, they're liars.


          Nope, sorry. Calling something "good" or "bad" is an opinion, not a fact. If you don't agree with their opinion, fine, but calling people liars just because you disagree with their opinion discredits nobody but yourself.


          For your reference, lying would be if they said that the unemployment rate was 2.2% when the official figure was really 5.6%.


          (And if you think it's impossible for a 5.6% unemployment rate to be "good" one year and "bad" during another, consider how that figure is computed [thinkandask.com] -- it's currently artificially low because so many people have stopped looking for work, and thus are no longer considered "unemployed", even though they remain jobless)

          • I would say counting burger-flipping McJobs as "Manufacturing Jobs" on official government reports is a lie. "Look 'Manufacturing jobs' went up 7% last quarter." Unfortunately, someone thought it would be a brilliant election year tactic but the Dems found about it too soon and had a field day with it.
          • Calling something "good" or "bad" is an opinion, not a fact.

            Precisely! The news outlets are reporting opinions as facts.

        • Unemployment (Score:2, Informative)

          by MrYotsuya ( 27522 )
          Just one example. When the same news sources reported that 5.6% unemployment under Clinton Good, but currently report that 5.6% unemployment under Bush is Bad, they're liars.

          The difference is that under Clinton, the number of jobs actually increased. Under Bush II, there's a net loss of about 2.3 million jobs.
        • Just one example. When the same news sources reported that 5.6% unemployment under Clinton Good, but currently report that 5.6% unemployment under Bush is Bad, they're liars.

          No, that makes them disreputable. The press lies consistently, but demonstrating that requires much you to be extremely specific on what, how and what-kind-of lies they make.

          -lies of ommission - the most common type of lie. Paints a false picture by leaving out certain information that contradicts the 'angle' of the story

          - semantic

    • Re:"News"forge? How about Conjectureforge. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by donnz ( 135658 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:25PM (#8516415) Homepage Journal
      For once, this really is "real news". It removes the case from "David protecting his precious IP from Goliath" to MS trying, in their normal trustworthy way, to subvert Linux.

      SCO has confirmed the memo is for real. If you look at the contract between S2 and SCO [onecle.com] you can see that S2 was hired to:

      advise SCO as to any potential financings, either debt or equity, and assist SCO in arranging a customary revolving credit agreement or other financing in connection with any Transaction;

      And that is just a small part of the contract which is very wide ranging.

      To suggest that this guy didn't know what was going on with the financing deals is just ludicrous...Give me a break.

      So, this is important, it confirms what people suspected and frankly, it changes the entire nature of the case and SCOs accusations.
    • I too found the article to be weak.

      "While at IKON, he was a key member of the management team responsible for developing a new $550 million technology services division at IKON Office Solutions. Most of IKON's products, including printers, fax machines, copiers, and other tools, work with Microsoft Office software. Imagine all the partnering that was done at that time."

      Hmmm... so Mr. Anderer used to work for a company that manufactures printers that work with MS Office? Certainly this is evidence of a c
    • Dunno about you, but I prefer my news before it breaks.

      (That's why I read Slashdot at work;)

    • but let's keep it fair.

      Fair? About the company infamous for 'DOS isn't done 'til Lotus won't run?' and 'Embrace and extend'?

      Fair? About a convicted abuser of monopoly powers? One who has shown no contrition nor seems to have learned any lesson!?

      Fair? About the company that coined FUD and made it a household name?

      Fair? About bits of evidence hinting they're partnering with SCO via a very shady multimillion dollar deal with a shell corp?

      Fair? Anywhere involving Darl and SCO?

      (imagine me,

    • Well, the ignorant asshole didn't reply to my email to him [slashdot.org], so I guess it's not surprising he's upped and skipped town leaving his phone unplugged.

      The email address, by the way, came from the University of South Carolina Research Foundation, of which he is a director.

      It was such a nice email, too ;)

  • ms conspiracy (Score:4, Interesting)

    by codepunk ( 167897 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:07PM (#8516282)
    The MS conspiracy theory is the only thing that makes sense when gaging SCO's actions. Who on earth
    would sink the ship without having a lifeboat. I whole heartedly believe as do most others that MS is the sole driving factor behind all of this. I have never seen a company as hell bent destined to sink as SCO. What other possible motive do they have??

    • They're going bankrupt; it's either Sue Sue Sue, innovate something new and quick that'll save their company (Yeah, right!) or fold nice and cleanly. Darl's just trying to turn a profit - however small - to boost investor confidence and get the money flowing back in. It's probably do-or-die for those guys right now.

      I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't trying to take away my penguin. *Grrrr!*

  • Interesting column by Perens (Score:4, Interesting)

    by UnknowingFool ( 672806 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:08PM (#8516289)
    Now that SCO has dropped the trade secret argument, Perens dismantles their remaining arguments in his column. Hopefully IBM and RedHat are reading it.
  • You'd figure this "S2" firm would've at least put up a half-way decent website and a team of Indian call center workers to answer phones for 50 mil.

  • It won't be long now... (Score:5, Funny)

    by jmors ( 682994 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:13PM (#8516327)
    (setting) A dimly lit street corner in a City in Utah...

    DM: Pssst, hey buddy, come'ere

    Passerby: Who are you and what do you want?

    DM: Wanna buy a valuable license? (opens trench coat)

    Passerby: What's it a license for?

    DM: I can't tell you, if I tell you I would have to kill you, but truuuusssssttt me, it contains license to use some valuable IP!

    Passerby: How Much?

    DM: How much you got?

    Passerby: (pulling out his checkbook) I only have 12 dollars and 15 cents left in my account.

    DM: That'll do.

    Passerby: Who do I make the check out to?

    DM: Corporate Attorneys Suing Humanity, but you can abbreviate and just make it out to C.A.S.H

  • Another...*buzz* SCO *click* story *smoke*.
    SCOverload imminent...
    • You make alot of small sticks, none of which individually amount to very much, but over time add up to something greater than the sum of their parts.

      Swordplay, even with a rapier, uses less finesse, and more plain old-fashioned overkill.

      That said, I prefer swords to needles. I prefer C++ to assembly. Though at times I still wish I could take a claymore to my computer!

  • A little too obvious? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by psi42 ( 747491 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:17PM (#8516356)
    "And why does domain registration information for S2.com give the obviously false phone number 123-456-7890"

    Indeed, why? I would think even SCO would be smart enough not to make an under-the-counter relationship with MS so blisteringly obvious.

    IMHO, this means either of two things:
    a) There is no under-the-counter conspiracy
    b) SCO is smoking even more crack than we previously thought :)

    I hate SCO as much as the next guy, but I would think that multi-billion dollar corporations would do a little better job covering their tracks.

    Or perhaps not. :)

    ~psi42
  • Anybody that SCO hires has got to be just as slimy as SCO themselves. 'Nuff said.

  • Next on Rock Bottom (Score:3, Insightful)

    by agrippa_cash ( 590103 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:34PM (#8516481) Homepage
    I don't doubt that there is a connection between Microsoft, S2 and SCO, but this article lays it on a little thick.
    ...Mike Anderer...a longtime ... friend of McBride, ... with an unlisted home phone number.
    As if having an unlisted phone number is unusual or a strong indicator of shady dealings. And later:
    Most of IKON's products...work with Microsoft Office software.
    I should hope so. And the last paragraph reads like Agatha Christy (not a compliment). I would not be at all surprised if Microsoft's ties to SCO were more numerous than is readily apparent, but this article is little more than conjecture and innuendo. I know those are KINDS of evidence, but I think we can do better.

    • Unlisted Numbers? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Xenographic ( 557057 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @09:53PM (#8517080) Journal
      For a person to have an unlisted number is one thing. That's pretty normal.

      But for a company to have no good way to contact them? That's one of the first things most people look for (or should look for...) in spotting a fly-by-night online business...

      Why? Because if you buy a good or service from them and they don't deliver what they've promised, who are you going to contact to complain? And how are you going to get your money back?

      It's pretty simple, really...

    • Re:Next on Rock Bottom (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Ohreally_factor ( 593551 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @10:11PM (#8517248) Journal
      But did you use "123-456-7890" as your phone number when you registered your domain?

      Individually, all of these elements are innocent. Put together, while they might still turn out to be innocent, they certainly appear suspicious. Anderer, MS, and SCO could certainly dispel these suspicions if there was nothing to them and they wanted to. My guess is that they've got to get their stories straight, first. ;n)
      • You're rigth. The elements does not in any way proove MS are behind them, not even really point in that direction.

        What they *do* point at, pretty consistently, is a less than reputable, less than serious company. Not that it's a huge surprise that SCO has dealings with consultants of similar moral fiber.

  • Conspiracy Theories (Score:5, Insightful)

    by StarWreck ( 695075 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:34PM (#8516485) Homepage Journal
    Since the release of Halloween X... the SCO and Microsoft "development" has been increasingly sounding like a massive conspiracy that has been in the works for at least several years.

    Did Mr. Anderers, Darl McBride and the other conspirators originally meet with Microsoft Agents while working at IKON when they hatched their plan?

    Was Silicon Stemcell created merely as a front to allow the conspirators to plan and work in secret? If not, then why is all that can be found out about Silicon Stemcell is that "may have moved again or gone out of business"? Was Silicon Stemcell actually just cast aside when their secret plot was ready to launch?

    Did Darl McBride position himself to become CEO of SCO merely to carry out the plot, planned years ahead of time? If not, then how is the connection between McBridge and Anderers at IKON explained?

    Was S2 also created as a front, to allow Mr. Anderers and the other conspirators into the front door that McBride had opened? If S2 is a real company, why does their website consist of 1 page with no links and no information and have their domain registered under a falsified phone number? How, exactly, did SCO even contact S2 to form their "business relationship" unless you take into account McBride's previous "friendship" with Anderers.

    YOU BE THE JUDGE!

  • Enough already! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by GoMMiX ( 748510 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:36PM (#8516504)
    Just tell us when Darl is going to jail -- that's what we all really want to know.

    Ohh yeah, we also want to know when M$ gets a slap on the wrist. (If that even...)
  • wait. the super solenoid in the evas?

    wow, i thought that was only in NGE.

  • The SCO Group is dying (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @08:57PM (#8516688)
    The SCO Group is dying

    It is official; NASDAQ confirms: the SCO Group (SCOX) is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered SCO Group when NASDAQ confirmed that SCOX market price has dropped yet again, now down to less than a half of its October trading price. Coming on the heels of a recent NASDAQ report which plainly states that SCOX has lost more market capitilization, the market serves to reinforce what we've known all along. SCO Group is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by being dead last in a recent NASDAQ Losers list.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict SCO's future. The hand writing is on the wall: SCO Group faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for SCO because SCO is dying. Things are looking very bad for SCO. As many of us are already aware, SCO continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    UnixWare is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core users. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time SCO Group CEO Daryl McBride and Chris Sontag, the SCO vice president only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: SCO Group is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    Window's leader Bill Gates states that there are 70 users of Linux. How many users of UnixWare are there? Let's see. The number of UnixWare versus Linux posts on Usenet and Slashdot is roughly in a ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there must be about 70 * 5 = 350 UnixWare users.

    Due to the troubles of the Lindon, Utah company, abysmal sales and so on, the SCO Group may go out of business and be taken over by Microsoft, who sells another troubled OS. Now that UnixWare is also dead, its corpse is to be turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that SCO Group has steadily declined in market share. SCO Group is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If UnixWare is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. UnixWare continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, UnixWare is dead.

    Fact: the SCO Group is dying.

  • BOFH explains SCO lawsuit (Score:4, Funny)

    by WCMI92 ( 592436 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @09:06PM (#8516753) Homepage
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/36116.html

    HILARIOUS. And using licenses to shit as an example is so appropriate.
  • Can they introduce me to Jamie Lee Curtis?

    On a more serious note, and I am probably just a loser, (quiet you), but perhaps you could take it easy on the folks who don't follow the SCO debacle with baited breath, and explain what you mean instead of using archaic pseudonyms for actual events?
  • Vinod Valloppillil and Josh Cohen are the named authors of the Halloween II document. [opensource.org]
  • So how many employees does S2 have (is there anyone besides Anderer and his secretary)?

    IIRC, Anderer left SCO in Aug 03 and started S2 which consults for SCO.
  • After IBM delivers copies of the AIX source code, SCO will then get just two weeks to conclude its examination and make any additional claims.

    Will IBM give Darl the code on easily copiable CD's or on a truckload of paper accompanied by IBM guards?

  • wayback s2.com (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @10:47PM (#8517566)
    Check out:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20010425142653/http:/ /s 2.com/index.html

    From wayback you can see there site has changed many times. It used to be owned by someone else and in the mid 90s was a sports site. A few years back we find things like:

    S2 is a second-generation entrepreneurial venture firm that specializes in developing and accelerating companies that commercialize emerging technologies across a wide spectrum of industries.

    S2 is headquartered in Salt Lake City, UT, with additional offices in Redmond, WA, Detroit, MI and Columbia, SC. S2 Capital, the company's affiliated financial firm, is located in Charleston, SC.

    They really did have a lot of offices as you can see:

    S2 - Headquarters

    56 East Broadway
    Salt lake City, UT
    84111
    v.801.415.2100
    f.801.415.2101

    info@s2.com

    S2 - Central States

    123 South Main
    Royal Oak, MI
    48067
    v.248.837.1400
    f.248.837.1401

    S2 - Southeast

    1200 Main St. ste. 1000
    Columbia, SC
    29201
    v.803.772.5922
    f.803.733.6799

    S2 - Northwest

    8195 166th Ave. NE ste. 101
    Redmond, WA
    98052
    v.425.882.2893
    f.425.881.5773

    S2 Capital

    418 king St.
    Charleston, SC
    29403
    v.843.722.8670
    f.843.937.8518

  • This is hilarious! (Score:4, Funny)

    by r_j_prahad ( 309298 ) <r_j_prahad@hotm a i l .com> on Wednesday March 10, 2004 @01:45AM (#8518621)
    I just found this help-wanted ad on Monster.com. My keyboard is now full of coffee! Find it here. [monster.com]

    Job Description: SCO Unix Contractor
    Qualified candidate will need to recover root passwords and change them, plus store securely for future use if need be.
    Candidate needs to be able to understand file structure & applications running on machine(s) & determine if it is possible for the contractor to support the systems until June of this year.

    Ohhh, my side hurts from laughing so hard! I wonder what the story is behind this one....
  • SCO [BLAH BLAH BLAH] Strategic consultant in death.

  • Basic Background on Silicon Stemcell (Score:3, Informative)

    by Snerdley ( 98439 ) on Wednesday March 10, 2004 @02:57AM (#8518872)
    Try a simple Google for "silicon stemcell" and if you "feel lucky", you'll find an article from 1999:
    Firm seeks to protect ideas [bizjournals.com]
    Basically it says what you'd expect:
    "Our goal is to protect, extend and acquire intellectual property," said Anderer, who's Silicon Stemcell's president and chief executive officer.
    Perhaps more forboding is this quote (again from 1999, this time about a broadband firm):
    "We are very optimistic about our ability to go out and license these technologies in several different ways."

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