ICANN Stacks Board with Non-Critical Appointees 124
Froomkin writes "ICANN's outgoing dissident Board member, Andy Mueller-Maguhn, has leaked the slate that ICANN's so-called NomCom (actually an appointments committee) has picked. The new public representatives are mostly a mix of incumbent ICANN Board directors who don't rock the boat, corporate executives, and ISOC members. Dissident Andy Mueller-Maguhn got replaced by a former member of the board of Deutsche Telekom. Dissident Karl Auerbach (who had to sue ICANN to get to see its documents) got replaced by the President of the U.S. Council for International Business. At least the Board Squatters are finally going to be history. Details at ICANNWatch." ICANN is an interesting study in how a ruling regime can usurp a democratic institution and turn it into an autarchy.
I've spent too much time at dot-bombs (Score:5, Funny)
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and... (Score:1)
john
Big Dubya Is Watching You [wildjelly.com]
Re:and... (Score:2)
Not surprised in the least.
ICANN is a joke - nobody expects impartiality or informed decision-making to come out of it.
IMHO, the only way to clean it up is for the entire board to be fired, and to start fresh with a brand new entity with a new constitution that prevents the sort of hijack that happened to ICANN.
N.
Give em the finger... (Score:2)
You can use one of their TLD's like
Or start your own (OK that is work, but at least it can be done.) and everyt
Autarchy? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Autarchy? (Score:1)
Meanwhile, Metricsuptheassology is what the management team has done to that same organization.
It's nice.
Re:Autarchy? (Score:2)
Re:Autarchy? (Score:2)
Re:Autarchy? (Score:2, Funny)
Oddly, given that the elected rulers turned on their electors and usurped power, it sounds more to me like they were Decepticons....
Well ... he quit. (Score:4, Informative)
[PS. Someone, I don't know who, nominated me for a Board seat, but I wrote in to say I did not wish to be considered.]
Board seat (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Board seat (Score:1)
That's very true, but it's only a quasi outhouse.
In a true outhouse, it all falls into a pit to be buried. In the case of a board seat, only some of the various types of poo gets buried (specifically, the kind that is also called evidence). The rest goes into a sort of complex plumbing system. Most companies have an engineering diagram of the plumbing, but they call it an 'org chart'
Re:Well ... he quit. (Score:3)
Re:Well ... he quit. (Score:2)
Just curious... (Score:5, Interesting)
Their authority comes from everyone (Score:5, Insightful)
It's democracy, but almost all the voters are apathetic.
Not just DNS (Score:2)
Re:Not just DNS (Score:1)
Re:Not just DNS (Score:2)
Re:Just curious... (Score:5, Informative)
The United States Department of Commerce [doc.gov]
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/ica
Who's left? (Score:2)
Re:Who's left? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Who's left? (Score:2)
Pretty obvious there was never going to be a vote (Score:5, Interesting)
The "Nominees" have already accepted their posts and "will assume their duties" (or else?).
Sigarette: A short sig.
Re:Pretty obvious there was never going to be a vo (Score:2)
"Thank you sir, may I have another term?"
Hard to resist... (Score:3, Funny)
ICANN Stacks Board - ICANNCEIVABLE! (Score:4, Funny)
ICANNABELIEVEIT!
Shouldn't it be ICANNCEIVABLE?
But I'm not sure if that word means what I think it means.
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SOP (Score:5, Insightful)
The choices suck. (Score:1, Troll)
Would you test a dog's receptiveness to dogfood on a cat?
Would you do market research for 2 Fast 2 Furious at a Senior's Home?
Aww! To Hell with ICANN! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Aww! To Hell with ICANN! (Score:4, Funny)
Obligatory Bender Followup (Score:1)
Re:Obligatory Bender Followup (Score:3)
Case studies... (Score:5, Funny)
ICANN is an interesting study in how a ruling regime can usurp a democratic institution and turn it into an autarchy.
Thanks! ...I've been looking for some real-life examples of how to achieve this!
democracy2autarchy (Score:5, Funny)
Thanks!
democracy2autarchy is a closed source software project, but it has been having some success, enough to be lucrative.
I've tried to install it myself but can't get past the point of needing libmoney.a
Re:democracy2autarchy (Score:2)
I've tried to install it myself but can't get past the point of needing libmoney.a
autocracy (Score:2)
Re:autocracy (Score:3, Informative)
autarchy
n 1: economic independence as a national policy [syn: autarky]
2: a political system governed by a single individual [syn: autocracy]
[ant: democracy]
Re:autocracy [off-topic] (Score:1)
Merriam Webster describes language as "the words, their pronunciation, and the methods of combining them used and understood by a community"
Thus any dictionary that defines
Re:autocracy (Score:2)
No, I think they've created a new systems that is "autocracy" + "anarchy" = "autarchy". Kudos to them for realizing a paradox.
Well ... (Score:5, Informative)
There are GREAT ALTERNATIVES [unrated.net]
OpenNIC has matured into a rather great truly democratic DNS Registry. I would highly recommend everyone support them. You can still support OpenNIC and have ICANN registeries, well everything except biz, but that's a whole nother can of worms ...
Re:Well ... (Score:2)
Re:Well ... (Score:2)
not alternatives, moron (Score:2, Troll)
True, OpenNIC operates much different than ICANN.
However, OpenNIC has decided to be consistent with ICANN (aside from
OpenNIC should disparge from ICANN
Re:not alternatives, moron (Score:2)
Damn I keep vowing to not feed the trolls ...
Re:not alternatives, moron (Score:2)
OpenNIC is in no way an alternative to ICANN. It is a supplement. It does not offer alternate domain-name resolution for some of ICANN's controversial decisions (e.g., Nissan).
For it to be an alternative, it would have to actively assign at least some things (besides
Re:not alternatives, moron (Score:2)
Re:not alternatives, moron (Score:1)
And how on earth would Opennic do anything about it, considering their root delegates
Re:not alternatives, moron (Score:2)
Re:not alternatives, moron (Score:1)
Well, then they would have to maintain a copy of the entire
Re:not alternatives, moron (Score:2)
Re:not alternatives, moron (Score:2)
An easier thing to do would simply be to follow some of the important domain-name resolution controversies, and contradict ICANN on them within OpenNIC's DNS, and then refer the rest of the
Re:not alternatives, moron (Score:2)
Given how irrelevant your post is to what I wrote, I can only assume that you responded to the wrong comment.
Re:not alternatives, moron (Score:2)
There are GREAT ALTERNATIVES
The entire threat started from the phrase "GREAT ALTERNATIVES"...I pointed out that there are no alternatives.
Re:not alternatives, moron (Score:2)
In other words, as I said, you responded to the wrong post.
d0h (Score:2)
[LONG] My proposed solution from 1996 (Score:5, Interesting)
Status of this Memo
This document is an IAHC-Draft. IAHC-Drafts are working documents invited by the Internet International Ad-Hoc Committee.
IAHC-Drafts are draft documents and may be updated, replaced, or made obsolete by other documents at any time. It is inappropriate to use IAHC Drafts as reference material or to cite them other than as ``work in progress.''
Introduction
This is a formal proposal and recommendation to the IAHC on the creation of new commercial TLD names and the selection of registries to carry out registration in them.
Policies
In this section, I set out the ends and restrictions on them in the form of policies which will inform the specific selections which follow.
The Internet Society should not engage in trade. Instead it and its component committees should set policy and standardize technical and practical issues in areas subject to such policy.
The management of registries should operate under common law. There is no need to make law, but only to arrange the operation of registries so that they may obey the laws of their jurisdictions, and have access to the lawful conflict resolution mechanisms of those jurisdictions.
The selection of TLD names be compatible with trademark law. Where (sub)domain names are indistinguishable from trademarks, the same law should apply.
Maximize the choices available to registries and their customers, the registrants. Leave as much as possible up to the organizations desiring domains as possible, specifically including what kind of domain to register in and therefor what risks and benefits they wish to accept and achieve.
The selection of names and registries be compatible with previous proposals. Requests and offers made to the IANA in light of early proposals should be considered in the selection of TLD names and registries.
The mechanisms should be patterned after traditional ones. This specifically includes successful policies from the trademark and copyright areas, such as providing public announcements and periods for objections to be made.
Minimize rulemaking, now and in the future. Cease to be involved as soon as can reasonably be achieved. Specifically, do not create new bodies, but instead return day-to-day management of the namespace to IANA.
Define end dates Similarly, rules employed to ease the creation of a system of registration in new TLDs should cease to apply once a system is in place.
Customer's Selection of Domains
Before setting out policies, it is advantageous to expand the principle of maximizing the choice of customers: that of to letting customers decide what TLDs they wish to be in, while setting ground rules so that have the opportunity to do so without harming others.
This lets us see what results for the most affected community are, and broadly hints at what must be done to achieve useful results.
So let us then consider the customers' desires in selecting a commercial TLD, given a broad choice of at least existing (``.com''), categorical (eg, ``.oil') and synonymous (eg, ``.biz'') TLDs.
The customer would need to realize that there is a tradeoff: for some period web browsers wouldn't find them without user intervention.
Those include, in the short term, the
Noble effort, but still the wrong direction (Score:3, Insightful)
DNS is inappropriate for this because it does not allow two parties with a legitimate interest in the same label to share it, except through the confusion of additional TLDs. Two parties could have a perfectly legal claim to a label that they now have to battle out in court
Re:Noble effort, but still the wrong direction (Score:1)
The only thing we really need is IPv6 to complete the cake, why would you have a dynamic address with IPv6, although I know they'll do it, I see no real reason for it.
If ICANN screws around enough a solution will be found for them, the record industry found out the hard way and I believe a P2P nameresolver with some sort of public/private key mi
Re:Noble effort, but still the wrong direction (Score:2)
An authoritative search engine might be a good place to start worrying about trademark and service marks, though.
You still need that central authority if you need the ability for your labels to carry IP weight, but these labels must be scoped within political boun
Re:Noble effort, but still the wrong direction (Score:2)
But then you have the search engine problem. Which results go on top? Do you pay to get better placement? Is there a click-through counter to determine most popular picks? Random order? You don't want this method to be useless, and then have to build yet another se
Re:Noble effort, but still the wrong direction (Score:2)
There isn't a "placement" issue b
Re:The Corporate World Government (Score:2, Funny)
How icann works (Score:5, Funny)
It's really weird that they approve useless domains like
Re:How icann works (Score:2)
As many folks have stated, this means that a worldwide judge of content, aribitor of morality, must exist. It breaks the hierarchical model of DNS (granted, the new TLDs (which I don't like) did so as well).
you don't like this? (Score:2)
What do they produce that's worth paying for either by taxpayers or domain holders or registries?
If they are not accountable to the users and they aren't accountable to the national TLDs, it is time they are held accountable by the taxpayers.
The Internet and the root servers worked just fine without this bureaucracy and it'll work just fine after the last person leaves the ICANN office s and turns off t
Apocalypse Now (Score:2)
Shit, how many examples of this do we need? Does anyone remember the year 2000 anymore? Is it just me, or has the entire USA gone completely stark raving bonkers?
Sincerely,
The Angriest Liberal in the World
http://www.ucomics.com/rallcom/2003/06/14/
Democracy? (Score:1)
Sorry, but ICANN was never a democratic institution. Only a minority of the Board members were elected by the internet community, everyone else was appointed by some US agency.
gee (Score:1)
Two clicks away [icann.org] from Google's results? That's too much to ask!
Hell, clicking these links is probably too much to ask.
Yeah... (Score:2, Funny)