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Bono (Not That Bono) Would Like To Head The RIAA 50

Posted by timothy from the wink-wink-nudge-nudge dept.
A semi-anonymous reader writes "In a suprising display of confusion over what 'public service' really means, Rep. Mary Bono wants to fill the shoes of departing RIAA chief exec Hillary Rosen while also forming a new congressional caucus on piracy and copyright issues. Political watchdog groups in Washington questioned the idea of someone being a possible job candidate for the music industry's lobby and also a founding member of a caucus focused on some of the industry's most important policy concerns. Has anyone formed a lobbying group specifically to advance the position of us little people?"
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  • More important (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Dachannien ( 617929 ) on Monday June 16, 2003 @08:14PM (#6219006)
    ...is whether she plans to resign at her old job (you know, being in the U.S. House of Representatives [house.gov]) before taking on a new one involving a rather obvious conflict of interest.

    • I'm not really seeing much conflict here. The RIAA asks, and Congress gives. For this to be a conflict of interest, Congress would need to actually represent something other than the large corporations.
  • Earlier today, when I saw "Bono to head RIAA" on the Drudge Report, I was shocked! But I didn't bother to RTFA. I always thought that Lars Ulrich from Metallica was next in line.
    • Lars Ulrich was anti-napster only because unfinished songs were being leaked to the server. If I was in a band, I wouldn't appreciate my work in progress to be available to the entire world.
      • How do you think I Dissapear got leaked while they were still in the studio? The label did it to create a buzz around the song for the Mission Impossible soundtrack, and they sold a lot more copies of that soundtrack. Lars is a fargin bastidge!

  • Could it be worse? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by uncoveror ( 570620 ) on Monday June 16, 2003 @08:24PM (#6219100) Homepage
    Mary Bono as head of the RIAA? Consider that she is the widow of Sonny Bono, who wanted to make copyright perpetual, after whom the Sonny Bono Copyright Extension act was posthumously named. She would likely go out of her way to kill off fair use and the public domain [uncoveror.com] forever, the first sale principle is probably in her crosshairs too. Could there possibly be a worse person for the job? We could soon find ourselves missing Hilary Rosen. Boycott the recording industry. Don't buy CDs. [dontbuycds.org]

    More about these issues. [cren.net]

    • Re:Could it be worse? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Dark Nexus ( 172808 ) on Monday June 16, 2003 @08:52PM (#6219266)
      Don't buy CDs? That's just DUMB. Buy CDs, but don't buy any from the major labels. Track down the independants who sell CDs off their websites and out of guitar cases when they play a bar.

      Support the artists, not the industry.

      But don't buy CDs? That's like saying to not pay for software (be it shareware, off the shelf or oss through donations) because of Microsoft.
      • That's right, and start with this guy.

        Ultraman is Airwolf [ernestcline.com]
      • Track down the independants who sell CDs off their websites

        Great idea, but this won't always work. Many independants who sell CDs off their websites distribute their CD through a label who is an RIAA member.

        What I want is a list of music organizations and labels who aren't members of the RIAA.

        Anyone know of such a resource?

        • Well...it would be hard to track that, but here is a list of the labels that ARE members:

          RIAA Members [riaa.com]

          (Yeah, I know, I'm such a karma whore.)
        • One tipoff is generally price. $10 and there PROBABLY isn't a major label involved. $20, there is. $15 could go either way.

          Another option would be to use sites like Indie Pool, who sell indie music (that one's only Canadian stuff, but there's bound to be sites like that for pretty much any area), and Indie Music [indiemusic.com] which lists the websites of independant artists and labels.

          Or just buy the CDs directly from the band, after a show. When's the last time you saw someone from a major label doing that?
        • Someone here posted a link to a site called RIAA Radar [magnetbox.com] a while back in some other RIAA-related article. I don't know how complete the list is (It's technically not even a list, though I imagine you could browse it if you're really interested), but it's pretty useful when looking to buy CDs while boycotting the RIAA.
    • What makes you think Hillary Rosen was any better? According to you, Hillary Rosen didn't want to eliminate fair use and make copyright perpetua?

      • Re:ummm... (Score:1, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Hillary never managed to get any major laws passed that I'm aware of. This chick is worse. She'll use her dead husband to help further the RIAA's agenda. She's a congresscritter, which lends clout and credibility in some circles. This is bad.

        • That's because Hillary Rosen was not a Congresswoman. Btw, who the fuck do you think was bribing congress to get the DMCA and Mickey Mouse Act passed? Hillary Rosen and Jack Valenti.

  • This women needs to be defeated. (Score:4, Funny)

    by saden1 ( 581102 ) on Monday June 16, 2003 @08:47PM (#6219234)
    I'd like to run against here but I'm gonna need about 2 million dollars to run a campaign. You slashdotters need to put your money where your mouth is and give me someone money to beat this lady and send here packing. If you need further info as to where to send money to you can email me at mylifesavings@swissaccounts.com or conman@nigiria.419.com. This matter is strictly of confidential nature as such must be kept secret.
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  • Doesn't matter. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 16, 2003 @08:50PM (#6219253)
    Has anyone formed a lobbying group specifically to advance the position of us little people?
    It doesn't matter. Such a group would be (at best) marginalized and ignored, or (at worst) brutally repressed.

    Here's Noam Chomsky:

    They had their own newspapers. In fact, the period of the freest press in the United States was probably around the 1850s. In the 1850s, the scale of the popular press, meaning run by the factory girls in Lowell and so on, was on the scale of the commercial press or even greater. These were independent newspapers -- a lot of interesting scholarship on them, if you can read them now. They [arose] spontaneously, without any background. [The writers had] never heard of Marx or Bakunin or anyone else; they developed the same ideas. From their point of view, what they called "wage slavery," renting yourself to an owner, was not very different from the chattel slavery that they were fighting a civil war about. You have to recall that in the mid-nineteenth century, that was a common view in the United States -- for example, the position of the Republican Party, Abraham Lincoln's position. It's not an odd view, that there isn't much difference between selling yourself and renting yourself. So the idea of renting yourself, meaning working for wages, was degrading. It was an attack on your personal integrity. They despised the industrial system that was developing, that was destroying their culture, destroying their independence, their individuality, constraining them to be subordinate to masters.

    There was a tradition of what was called Republicanism in the United States. We're free people, you know, the first free people in the world. This was destroying and undermining that freedom. This was the core of the labor movement all over, and included in it was the assumption, just taken for granted, that "those who work in the mills should own them." In fact, one of the their main slogans, I'll just quote it, was they condemned what they called the "new spirit of the age: gain wealth, forgetting all but self." That new spirit, that you should only be interested in gaining wealth and forgetting about your relations to other people, they regarded it as a violation of fundamental human nature, and a degrading idea.

    That was a strong, rich American culture, which was crushed by violence. The United States has a very violent labor history, much more so than Europe. It was wiped out over a long period, with extreme violence. By the time it picked up again in the 1930s, that's when I personally came into the tail end of it. After the Second World War it was crushed. By now, it's forgotten. But it's very real. I don't really think it's forgotten, I think it's just below the surface in people's consciousness.

  • Lobbying groups (Score:2, Funny)

    by eXtro ( 258933 )
    There are a lot of lobbying groups that advance the position of us little people. Bent over and grabbing our ankles is a positing, right?

  • apologies to any actual midgets (Score:4, Funny)

    by Mad Marlin ( 96929 ) <cgore@cgore.com> on Monday June 16, 2003 @09:33PM (#6219489) Homepage
    Has anyone formed a lobbying group specifically to advance the position of us little people?

    I'm not little, I'm 6'4", and I don't see why DC needs a midget special interest group.

  • Can you spell payoff? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by www.sorehands.com ( 142825 ) on Monday June 16, 2003 @10:58PM (#6219818) Homepage
    It sounds like Bono is being paid off for her getting the Bono copyright extension act passed.
    How many of you out there are wondering when the first talk of heading up the RIAA came up as related to the timeline of the Sony Bono Copyright Act?

  • She's Just Wishing Out Loud (Score:4, Interesting)

    by hbo ( 62590 ) * on Monday June 16, 2003 @11:00PM (#6219822) Homepage
    Per the article:

    Replacing the departing chief executive of the Recording Industry Association of America would be her "ideal job," spokeswoman Cindy Hartley said. She added that Bono, R-Calif., isn't actively pursuing the job and plans to run for re-election.

    And the rest of the article goes on to quote groups raising eyebrows at a congress creature wanting to be a lobbyist.


    I think Mary Bono is a threat right where she is. It's not smart, polite or useful to wish death on someone however. What we are up against is both an industry with lots of lobbying muscle, and a Government with a receptive ear, even forgetting the campaign cash. We need sustained, adroit and well-heeled lobbying of our own if we hope to counter these threats in a meaningful way. Threats and jeers just lose us credibility.

  • Another story about Rosen leaving (Score:3, Interesting)

    by ELCarlsson ( 570500 ) on Tuesday June 17, 2003 @08:29PM (#6228488)
    Here's a story from Forbes [forbes.com]. My favorite is the last paragraph. Our only problem with Rosen was the RIAA going after Napster. Umm...sure.

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