Cable Modem Tax Proposed by FCC 625
TheSync writes "News.Com has an article by Declan McCullagh that says the FCC is considering a new tax of up to 9.1% on the revenue of cable modem providers. This is an expansion of the existing universal service fund, which currently does not apply to cable services. The USF could even be expanded to wireless IP and VOIP providers as well, expanding the fund to over $13 billion."
Universal Service Fund (Score:5, Informative)
About 85 percent of the fund's revenues are split between two causes: the "e-rate" program (40 percent), which subsidizes school and library Internet connections, and rural telephone companies (45 percent), which might otherwise end up paying more for telephone service than city dwellers. The remaining 15 percent goes toward discounts to low-income subscribers and funds rural health care.
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:5, Interesting)
Because of network effects. When you add a customer (either urban or rural) to the telephone network, the network becomes that much more functional for all customers, both urban and rural.
Did you ever consider that the investment needed to get phone service to "the rest of us" urban dwellers would never have been made (would never have made sense) without the promise of Universal Phone Service to make it also useful for rural dwellers.
It took the better part of century to convince businesses that enough people would have a telephone that it makes sense to have your business directly accessible by phone. How long did it take for everybody and his brother to have a web site? Seems to me like nobody had heard about the Internet prior to 1993, and everybody was on the web by 1998. Network effects.
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:4, Insightful)
Just because your parents choose to live like this, should you be penalized? How is a rural kid going to get a job in the "civilized" world without some experience with computers and the internet? How would they apply for scholorships and college?
You aren't thinking rural enough. Try rural New Mexico, or Montana, or (best example) Alaska.
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:4, Insightful)
Haphazardly giving money to phone companies as compensation for a mandate that they serve everyone isn't going to help that subsistence farmer who can't afford to pay 30 dollars a month for a phone bill anyway. Likewise, there are many kids in the city without access to technology and whose families regularly appeal to my grandmother's church for help paying for electricty and water bills, let alone phones.
The point of the original bill was that the cost of service for those who can afford it should subsidize those who cannot. The current system does not do that, and should be changed.
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:4, Interesting)
To a certain extent, yes.
If your parents chose to invest your college fund in a dot-com and lost it all, you are penalized. If your parents chose to live a life of crime, you might have to grow up in a foster home with your chances in life somewhat stacked against you. If your parents chose to use contraceptives, you wouldn't be alive to start with.
I don't think it's possible to have every kid start off on the same footing, short of some truly draconian (and likely ill-fated) governmental meddling. Moving to a rural area is not nearly the only way parents can screw up their children's chances in life, in any case.
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:5, Interesting)
-molo
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:5, Informative)
It's not about paying for the medical workers or supplies. Hope this doesn't come across too short and/or abrasive. There's a lot of misinformation, and I'm spreading myself thin...
Rearden Broadband? (Score:5, Interesting)
Actually not.
My company serves rural midwestern markets (largest town is 8,000) exclusively. We receive no federal subsidy (why? we're not a incumbant local telco, or rural utility service, which most of the rules are structured to and were designed to keep younger companies absent subsidy). We do serve 1/6th of one state and should cover 1/3 in the next year. We're privately funded, profitable, and provide a service that nobody else can match in our markets (for a good price).
While the incumbant aka lethargic independent telcos and Qwest ignore these markets, we're there providing this important service. Their product? 128 Kbps DSL, fed by a single T1 for an entire community resulting in un-broadband (sub-200 Kbps). Ours is SLA'ed, 256 to 6 Mbps customer links standard in the product line. Private backbone, and 100 Mbps upstream. As usual, this private business has had the incentive to provide a better product at a lower price than the "fat, dumb and happy" incumbants. And no, we don't have a $5 million vacation house in Vail or a Gulfstream as part of our expense structure.
So what does the FCC propose? Tax us and our customers to put money in the pockets of the RBOCs and ILECs. To buy more Gulfstreams and vacation homes for the FDH. Oh, and to ensure greater political contributions from the incumbants (the real story here).
Just like a chapter out of Atlas Shrugged... [worldofatlasshrugged.com]
*scoove*
Re:Rearden Broadband? (Score:5, Insightful)
It's sort of a public relations vs. reality issue. The fuzzy program materials sound great. In fact, programs such as the farm bill and RUS grant/low-interest loan provisions have gotten so many folks excited about easy money that I've had 3-4 calls a week from startups, angels, small communities, etc. that want me as a partner to obtain some of this money for their project. (One two weeks ago had already started hiring technicians to get going, you know - step 1. fill out RUS low-interest loan app, step 2. ???, step 3. make billions!).
The reality is much different and clearly benefits the incumbants. RUS, for instance, specifies capital reserves and other operational details that are structured towards a certain kind of operator (hint: incumbant).
We monitored the farm bill/broadband process very closely. Without giving my location away, I'll say that several board members have good contact with a key driver of the farm bill. Always, the devil's in the details and when the rules were finally published, the details were written to benefit incumbants. (Not that I would defend this particular Senator, but he didn't write the rules that gave away the store to the incumbants).
While I can understand the argument that "incumbant = low risk" and better track record for integrity (like Qwest?
The smaller incumbants have another equally troubling issue. While they're more engaged with their community and usually do care about the local people, they're terribly incompetent. They have an aging engineering staff that's eyeing retirement, have avoided infrastructure reinvestment for 20+ years, and quite simply do not understand wide area carrier networks. To them, a AT&T Internet T1 + DSLM = broadband for thousands. In their defense, a one to a dozen market incumbant is a post-regulatory oddity that survived in spite of evolution. You can't expect to be competitive on this tiny scale. A Cisco CCIE should be handling a region as large as a state (and needs the portion of revenues from that area to be cost-effective). So they don't have CCIEs. They've got guys who used to repair tractors working as router "experts." Seriously... one competitor's top engineer also maintains the fleet vehicles and is the groundskeeper as well. Need I say "DHCP enabled on a wireless AP serving a community on an omni antenna"? Ugh!
Please understand I'm not whining about the Federal loans/grants - I don't take any of it because I know better than to ask for it. It's not intended for me, as I don't pay an attorney in DC thru the various ILEC/RBOC lobbying firms. I don't aspire to receive this money either, as the price I have to pay for it (regulation, political donations) is not acceptable.
But to tax my small town customers and punish my business under the guise of "helping incumbants find a way to provide broadband to small towns" is criminal and is a very good way to turn red fly-over country blue (god forbid). If they really wanted to figure it out, they'd sell the house in Vail, drop the country club membership for upper management, and tell the five engineers that serve one small town that they need to produce or get the boot.
And the FCC had better remember that right now is a really bad time to put a tax on these small town folk. They don't have the dollars to give, and you can expect I'll let them know who added the tax.
*scoove*
Re:Rearden Broadband? (Score:3, Insightful)
Short answer is "as long as you meet restrictions on delivery, you can qualify". The pie is getting larger, but the number of "diners" is increasing even faster. As scoove said, there are lots of people interested in chasing the "easy money".
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:3, Interesting)
the "e-rate" program (40 percent), which subsidizes school and library Internet connections,
We are already paying for these services with our property taxes and federal income taxes. I see no reason why someone who has a cable modem should pay more for these things than someone who makes as much money and owns as much property but doesn't have a cable modem.
and rural telephone companies (45 percent), which might otherwise end up paying more for telephone service than city dwellers
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:3, Interesting)
Don't children deserve BETTER, real, live teachers in the first place?
With that said, I've never understood the hypocrisy in shunning communism (China, et al) for its inherent censorship, while at the same time, our (American) culture justifies it in the name of "child protection."
And mods... before you label this off-topic, just remember that the tax money coming from thi
Tough shit, rural life should be expensive (Score:3, Interesting)
75-100 years ago, when most of America was rural, subsidizing services for rural people was politically expedient and helped bridge a pretty large technology gap between rural and urban.
I don't see the need for it an
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:2)
For arguements sake:
You have 100 people living in a city, that city is 1 square mile. The cable it run and more drops in a smaller area requiring less cable and less repeaters etc.
To get to the same 100 poeple in a rural area you have perhaps 10 square miles.
Same amount of possible customers but a larger initial capital investment and ongoing upkeep.
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:4, Insightful)
In the city, the cost per customer is probably still cheaper even with the newer technology.
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:2)
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:5, Insightful)
Because it's very bad politics when a six year old has to run two miles down the road to the nearest phone to tell the operator that his house is on fire and his parents are trapped inside.
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:3, Insightful)
Second, using the necessity of basic phone to justify a different subsidy doesn't seem right.
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:2)
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:4, Interesting)
Cable costs is really nothing. Maintaining and setting up the cable is a different matter. Truck roll and equipment costs suck. You're talking pole installation, running the wires. The increase in boosters/repeaters/gain equipment.
Hell, the health care and retirement benefits that the company gives to the employees that string up the wire is likely to cost more than the wire itself, esp. in relation to years in use. This is one of the reasons why electrical companies moved to automatic meter reading--they spent millions doing the transition, but will save millions from all the people they laid off since they don't have to worry about their pension plans.
People time costs lotsa dough.
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:2)
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:2)
I am not 100% sure, but I believe it's because there's more analogue equipment involved and this it is harder to maintain, harder to remotel administer and so on. I live in a rural area and because of all this analogue sh~t I can only get 28.8 dialup. Too bad cable and ADSL are not available. (Fortunately I am temporarily living in a big city for business purposes and I have 1.5 Mb cable from Rogers. It's not in the US
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:2)
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:2)
Telephone (and internet) service are very similar. In a large city you can "buy" access in bulk, and pass the savings on to your customers. The infrastructure (fiber optics, copper pair) is also already laid out.
In rural communities,
Re:Universal Service Fund (Score:2)
WHAT!?! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:WHAT!?! (Score:4, Funny)
Indeed, think what the government could make charging people to use the phrase "nine-eleven'!
universal service (Score:5, Insightful)
These assholes already have forced my DSL provider to bill me for this, never mind that there's no phone service going over my data line (right now). To force this for cable as well is insane.
Re:universal service (Score:3, Interesting)
Boston Modem Party? (Score:5, Funny)
Before you hop on your soap boxes... (Score:3, Insightful)
Before the rants get too intense about this being a corrupt violation of your rights (read: making you pay for something) you should read the following from the article:
About 85 percent of the fund's revenues are split between two causes: the "e-rate" program (40 percent), which subsidizes school and library Internet connections, and rural telephone companies (45 percent), which might otherwise end up paying more for telephone service than city dwellers. The remaining 15 percent goes toward discounts to low-income subscribers and funds rural health care.
Yes, that's right. 55% of this tax will go to school internet connections, library internet access, and low-income subscribers and health care. 45% goes to the somewhat less worthy but still valid rural subscribers to keep costs equitable. Now, what was that you were about to say?
Re:Before you hop on your soap boxes... (Score:2)
What in the world is possibly 'less worthy' about providing affordable broadband to rural areas? The fiber pipes don't build themselves you know.
Re:Before you hop on your soap boxes... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Before you hop on your soap boxes... (Score:3, Insightful)
What does a third grader need a T1 for anyways?
Re:Before you hop on your soap boxes... (Score:3, Interesting)
One doesn't, but a shcool that has access to T1 can offer there student a much broader range of learning. A society that doesn't take it upon themselvs to educate their children will collpase in pretty short order.
What we are seeing is the fallout from 25 years of tax cuts. there isn't enpugh income from property tax to pay for shcools and libraries right now.
Of course (Score:5, Insightful)
So basically I'll have to pay a higher bill and children instead of getting a better education and learning the fundamentals will get a computer thrown in their face.
Sorry but kids don't need computers as much as they need traditional education.
Re:Before you hop on your soap boxes... (Score:5, Insightful)
"55% of this tax will go to school internet connections, library internet access, and low-income subscribers and health care. 45% goes to the somewhat less worthy but still valid rural subscribers to keep costs equitable."
School internet connections? Schools in this city first need a) usable hardware, b)knowledgable, decently paid teachers and IT staff, and c) an actual use for the internet in their curriculum.
Library internet access? So we've settled all those issues about recordkeeping, privacy, restricted content and so on? Good to hear.
Low income subscribers? Low income _cable_ subcribers? So cable tv/modem service is a right now?
Health care? That's just a weird place to fund health care from. They use up all my cigerette taxes that fast eh?
Rural access is less worthy? And why is it that much more expensive anyway?
Just what the weak economy needs, more taxes.
Re:Before you hop on your soap boxes... (Score:3, Informative)
What the weak economy needs is more liquidity. By putting money in the hands of people who will spend it (schools, poor people, rural folks, and the government(yes they are very good at spending money)) we are creating that liquidity. And believe it or not that money WILL end up back in the hands of the rick! Thats right! Give someone who has nothing $100 and they will BUY SOMETHING!!! And they will buy it from someone who has more money! By redistributin
Re:Before you hop on your soap boxes... (Score:3, Interesting)
The e-rate program is a rip-off. The monies that are provided to schools for Internet access end up right back in the pockets of the ILECs, in the form of "discounted" network service rates. Dave Hughes [oldcolo.com] raised the cry against this years ago when it was first proposed, claiming it was just a pork barrel for the telcos, but it wasn't on anyone else's radar back then.
If the schools instead had gone to wireless networking (entirely possible at the time, as Mr. Hughes proposed), the schools could have cut ou
Re:Before you hop on your soap boxes... (Score:3, Insightful)
I would agree that those seem like reasonably decent causes. But why are you taxing cablemodem subscribers in order to fund them? I'm not even sure what taxing DSL subscribers has to do with it either. If you want to subsidize rural phone companies, tax non-rural phone bills. I don't even know where the health care thing came from.
The only thing in that gro
Re:Before you hop on your soap boxes... (Score:5, Interesting)
Now, what was that you were about to say?
Only this. Taxation without representation. These taxes are not approved by Congress. They are determined and levied under the sole authority of the FCC. That is why they are referred to as a "stealth tax".
Furthermore, as I managed the implementation project for a major municipality's E-rate project, I can tell you that the 55% in question breaks down as follows:
All this was done "for the children". Within months of implementation, the system collapsed because of the lack of a maintenance staff. The function of the project was immaterial. Once paid for, it had accomplished what the politicians wanted it to do.
E-rate, like all gubmint programs I've ever known anything about, is a social edifice whose purpose it is to make money disappear into political payola and dirty back room deals. Yet another example of how it isn't the type of government that gets you, but its size.
Re:Before you hop on your soap boxes... (Score:5, Insightful)
This is just another case of power hungry beaurocrats and money hungry monopolists feeding eachother. Yet another government subsidy of big business.
Please nobody forget that taxes are when people are forced to pay for something they wouldn't voluntarily pay for... if someone came to your house and took your money without your consent, then I think even the most maleable among us would be offended. Why is this money grab any different? You say because we elected them... that we collectively have chosen this?
No. Democracy thrice removed is not democracy. These people are thieves pure and simple. They do not represent me, any more than they represent you. They take our money by force and hide behind promises of job creation and benefit to children and the poor, but no good can come from a thieves gold.
Sure we have a choice to pay for these services or not... to participate in society or to not. To pay taxes or to not, but what choice is that really? Not a free one.
In my area free school access is just part of the price cable modem providers pay for cable's right of way. School access doesn't really cost much of anything for the providers beyond the istallation, so why not just mandate it from the monopolies? By my accounting it would take just a couple hundred subscribers in a community to easily defray even the commercial cost of educational access, let alone the real cost. Education access in exchange for right of way is a fair bargain, an exchange of value, not a theft like these proposed taxes and many others
Eventually this corruption will stop, either we will put a stop to it or it will stop us, but it will stop.
its not about low income... (Score:2)
the idea behind the universal service fee was originally to provide basic telephone service to those areas at a similar cost to those who live in cities. highspeed internet is quickly becoming a almost-necessary service. Certainly by the time this tax actually starts getting levied it will be.
Re:its not about low income... (Score:5, Insightful)
Cable modem doesn't fall unnder my definition of "basic telephone service". No way do I buy that internet access is the same sort of necessity. Got your leg caught in a thresher? My first reaction would be to pick up a phone, not a cable modem. It's just not a necessity. So much so that I'll gladly drop it if this tax materializes.
Re:its not about low income... (Score:3, Insightful)
Then you pay the extra costs of where you choose to live.
You have a larger, more expensive home than I do. Why should I pay part of your costs?
Re:Before you hop on your soap boxes... (Score:5, Insightful)
I was about to say that this isn't a socialist state and I don't give a flying hoo-hah if low-income rural subscribers can't get cheap cable.
Fortunately your government disagrees with you on both points. That's why you have libraries: education and access to information to people who can't afford it. That's why public school is free. That's why you have a welfare system. That's why you have food stamps. That's why universities have scholarships. How on earth did you get the impression you didn't live in a socialist state? What country do you live in and unless the US has eliminated all the above, don't say the USA...
They need more money?? (Score:2, Flamebait)
Anyone wonder where all this American obesity comes from, just look towards your elected spenders, I mean officials.
Broadband promotion (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Broadband promotion (Score:2)
Taxes are not always bad (Score:2, Informative)
About 85 percent of the fund's revenues are split between two causes: the "e-rate" program (40 percent), which subsidizes school and library Internet connections, and rural telephone companies (45 percent)
How is this a bad thing?
Re:Taxes are not always bad (Score:2)
OK, so you don't agree with these charities. In 15 years, are you gonna shut your mouth when a bunch of kids with poor educations raid your house to steal money for food? Or how about when the rural communities in the US are being devastated by the lack of basic services? The government has to get its money somehow.
Yanky politically correct mouth? I'm an Australian. Let's all spell it out
Shouldnt be a problem (Score:2, Informative)
More room to inflate cable bills... (Score:5, Insightful)
Phone bill fraud by third parties:
http://www.fraud.org/tips/telemarketing/crammin
Re:More room to inflate cable bills... (Score:2)
The motherload of Universal Service debate. (Score:5, Informative)
Hmm.. (Score:3, Interesting)
Which, if you think about it, means a greater usage of broadband and an incentive to unroll ever greater bandwidth.
I know that after starting to use broadband I'd never think about going back. It's almost required on the Internet nowadays. Anything that brings it to more people is a good thing.
Typical Budgeting Trick (Score:5, Insightful)
For a great example of this, look at how the states "fund" education from their lotteries. It's a scam.
about time (Score:4, Funny)
There is one possible advantage... (Score:2, Insightful)
Information Services (Score:3, Interesting)
From the article, "If they want cable modem services to pay, they have to decide how to avoid sweeping in all other information services as well," Boothby says. "That's really the point. How do you say an information service like a cable modem has to pay, without saying that all other information services have to pay? And (how do you) do that in a way that survives court review?"
As much as it pains me to say this, I think its time that internet access be classified as telecommunications. The medium is an active system whereby users exchange significant amounts of information in the form of e-mail, instant messengers, and other means, as well as purchase any number of items. The difference between an information service and telecommunications is in the exchange of information. An information service takes a small amount of information and gives you lots, but a telecommunications medium is primarily about the exchange of information and ideas.
Unfortunately, I don't know what obligations this puts on the access providers, but I think its time the issue was reconsidered.
Besides, this would eliminate the need for taxing telecom providers and a specific category of information service.
And for DSL Users...? (Score:3, Informative)
I switched to SBC/Yahoo DSL last December, and I pay $39.99/month with the promotional offer. The same service is now being offered at $29.99.
If cable providers are forced to increase rates, I'm sure DSL companies will be willing to lower costs (at least for an extended period of time), in order to drive potential customers away from cable.
Of course, Earthlink DSL has announced that they are actually increasing rates [com.com]; but that doesn't affect much of the broadband-aware states that have signed the Internet Tax Freedom Act. Including my state of California.
I'm sure we can offset the cost (Score:2, Funny)
Choice (Score:2)
The goals of Universal Service, as mandated by the 1996 Act, are to promote the availability of quality services at just, reasonable, and affordable rates; increase access to advanced telecommunications services throughout the Nation; advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, rural, insular, and high cost areas at rates that are reasonably comparable to those charged in urban areas.
So...if you choose to live in an area(rural or whatever) wh
Technically not a tax... (Score:3, Informative)
And incidentally, it could be higher than 9.1%. Until a few months ago, it was 10.5%. It's currently 9.1% for residential customers, 9.3% for businesses.
Well, if they don't raise one tax... (Score:4, Funny)
This already exists with DSL (Score:4, Informative)
As if it's not already too much? (Score:5, Insightful)
Then along came the Comcast buyout of ATTBI. The very same week, I got a letter from Comcast alerting me that they had noticed that I was a cable internet customer, but not a cable television or long distance customer. As such, my broadband internet price would jump from $42.95 to $57.95. That is, of course, unless I opted to sign up for their cable television service, in which case I could keep the "bargain" price of $42.95. I don't want Cable TV (hell, I know I already get it due to the way the technology works).
So my cable bill has made two jumps since January, from $34.95 to $42.95 to $57.95. That's a total increase 65.8% since then! 66%! Why did my bill gone up 66% over four months? Did the cost of providing me that service really go up that much?
Add 9.1% to $57.95, and we're up to $63.22 - that's an 80.90% increase in the cost of my service since last December!
Imagine if the cost of everything else went up 81%. That $20,000 car would be $36,200. A gallon of milk would jump from $1.50 to $2.72. Gasoline would jump from $1.60 per gallon to $2.9 per gallon. And my sallary would increase by roughly 2%. Now, I'm not an accountant, but I think I can see that if my salary increased by 2% and the cost of living increased by 81%, I wouldn't be doing too well.
Re:As if it's not already too much? (Score:3, Informative)
If DSL is taxed, Cable Internet should be taxed (Score:4, Insightful)
Because they are indistinguishable from one another in terms of what they do; They provide a transport for streams of data broken up into packets. In fact generally speaking they both only carry IP traffic (though they CAN carry other types of data; It is my understanding that DSL is just a flavor of ATM, even... I'm not sure what DOCSIS is based on) so they are even more similar to the user. Either one can be used to carry all the same types of data, which is to say, basically anything.
As for what should and should not be taxed, the law definitely should say specifically what makes a service taxable. If you can't put it in simple objective terms then there's no justice in it, because that is the only way you can make the law apply to all equally.
Government is good for two things: (Score:3, Insightful)
Since the 6+ billion people on earth generally agree that coming after people with guns and blades is morally unacceptable, the government comes after your wallet. "If we can't kill you, then you've gotta pay us more!"
But, then again, those of us who bother to read up on our history know that a government will tax any thing that moves on its own for anything that doesn't.
But, for the love of God or any other high (or low?) being, don't stop paying. If we stop greasing the wheels of government, it will be forced not only to fight even more wars that we don't agree with, but even to turn on those it is sworn to protect... (This, my friends, is why tax day feels sort of like a very uncomfortable physical examination. You hate to do it but you know it's best for everyone involved, especially the one collecting your money!)
Percentages of fees disbursed and accountability (Score:4, Insightful)
1. Prior to charging the public any extra fees (taxes), the telcos, and all associated parties, publish a plan to distribute $12,999,999,900 [a]. of the estimated $13b that will be collected
No extra admin costs, no profit taking, no fund redirection. Each and every $$ collected must go towards the stated goals of the Universal Service Fund [fcc.gov]
2. All of the associated telco CEO's, and the FCC Chairman, agree to prison terms [b] not less than 6 months, and not greater than 24 months if it can be shown that they do not follow their published plan.
Prison terms are collective, in that if one falls, they all fall. Make them accountable to, and responsible for, each other
[a] Each Telco may keep $1 profit each for administering the dispersal of our funds.
[b]Federal PMITA prison, not 'house arrest'.
Leveling things out (Score:3, Funny)
This will stop when you stop electing these people (Score:3, Insightful)
STOP ELECTING THEM.
And I don't mean by NOT VOTING either. Vote third party. Preferably, vote Libertarian. If you don't like them, vote for just about anybody but the big two.
Send a message.
Gee, that's a GREAT fucking idea... (Score:3, Insightful)
It Used to work like this... (Score:3, Informative)
It was supposed to be an internship but the real Technology Directory died shortly after I hired on so it became a paying position for a year or two during college until someone else finally got hired so I could get back to my classes.
The USF was used to help us pay for upgrades to our community and schools system. The amount of money put into our programs was based on the number of students on the Federal Free Lunch program. About 60% of the kids back then. I don't know if that's how it's done now, but there is no way we could have had any service for schools, libraries or anything back then without it.
Pure Genius by the FCC. (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm in the wrong business. I wish I had the power to make dumb proposals such as this.
10% tax on Espresso and Bubble Tea!!!
Dolemite
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Re:stick it to the consumer (Score:3, Funny)
Re:stick it to the consumer (Score:5, Insightful)
In my Area, $40 is just about the cost it would be for me to get another phone line and an internet account. So it is very much worth it to me to pay the $40 for a cable modem.
As for the FEE proposed, it would almost certainly be lower than the 9.1% listed, but I don't think it will go through in it's current state.
The FCC would have to reclassify cable access or the measure would give a broad scope of who pays the new fee, all the way down to people who use an ATM machine.
I hope they do stick it to ya' (Score:5, Interesting)
I like this part of the article:
"One important point to note: If the FCC goes ahead with its proposal and cable users end up paying more in taxes, DSL users will end up paying less. Because more people will be contributing to the same $6 billion fund, under FCC procedures, each person's contribution gets reduced. So, while DSL taxes currently are 9.1 percent, that rate could fall substantially."
Re:I hope they do stick it to ya' (Score:2, Insightful)
I can't really include my cable TV bill in with my Cable internet bill because #1: I could get the Inet without the TV and #2: I use my TiVo to watch all the TV I can fit in =)
Re:I hope they do stick it to ya' (Score:3, Insightful)
Nope. If I can't use common services, it ain't broadband.
Re:stick it to the consumer (Score:2, Interesting)
I canceled my service
$59 for the service
$5 'rental'
Yuck
I signed up when it was $39.99 and FAST and the modem was free.
Its gets slower and slower and more expensive.
Predictable (Score:5, Insightful)
SVM, ERGO MONSTRO
uhm... (Score:2)
Re:uhm... (Score:2)
learn something about your subject before you post (Score:2)
Re:DSL vs. Cable Modem (Score:3, Informative)
I recently received an email from Earthlink stating that they were going to start collecting "additional taxes and fees" from DSL users.
An article ("Earthlink yields to net taxes") [msnbc.com] on MSNBC recently detailed some of the information. From the article:
EarthLink on Tuesday said it will stop picking up the tax bill for some dial-up services and its digital subscriber line (DSL) broadband services, resulting in higher bills for many of its customers.
The taxes will affect dial-up us
Re:Yeah, way to stimulate the economy! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Yeah, way to stimulate the economy! (Score:2)
Re:Yeah, way to stimulate the economy! (Score:2)
Well it sure seems to be working so fa... no, wait, the American economy is in a massive slump the likes of which we haven't seen the the 70's.
Re:Yeah, way to stimulate the economy! (Score:5, Insightful)
Michael Powell is not part of the administration; he is (nominally, at least) independent, and was appointed by Clinton.
And I've never quite figured out how "not taking as much as we used to" and "giving away money" are the same thing, no matter how many times the Democrats have tried to explain it to me.
Re:Yeah, way to stimulate the economy! (Score:5, Insightful)
The people who need the money the most are the people who are unemployed. When you are unemployed you have no income, and hence pay no taxes. The only way to help those people with a tax cut is to cut taxes of people who will either:
If you're one of the 8% or so of people out there in the US with no job, that's the only kind of federal tax cut you should be looking for, because it's the only kind that's likely to have any chance of helping you.
Cutting taxes for people with low income won't help the unemployed people because the money will be spent on retail items that will probably come from China given our current trade deficit, so while such a tax cut might help those low income people, it won't help the economy or the unemployed.
All that said, I think this most recent tax cut is stupid. It's not the tax cut Bush asked for, and because it was renegotiated to go more to the lower end of the income scale it's essentially $350 million flushed down the giant hole that is our trade deficit.
Re:Yeah, way to stimulate the economy! (Score:3, Insightful)
Do you live in the US? If you do, and you're employed, take a look at who writes your paycheck. It's probably some rich American guy. Which would you prefer, a few extra dollars a week, or no fear of being laid off soon? The types of jobs that can be farmed out of the country are a small percentage of the overall job market here, and tax cuts can be made to favor those types of businesses. How about a pay
Re:Yeah, way to stimulate the economy! (Score:5, Informative)
"The share of all individual income taxes paid by the highest-income 1 percent of households was 36 percent in 1998."
"the top 5 percent of households pay 56 percent"
"In 2001, 36 percent of U.S. households, most earning less than $40,000, had income tax liabilities of zero"
Yes that's right, 36% of households pay NO income tax!!!
Would you like their tax rate to be below 0%? For many of them it is, in the form of the EITC [irs.gov].
you don't understand free markets (Score:5, Insightful)
That said, I support rural broadband, but think that wired rural broadband will not happen in a free market for a long long time.
wrong (Score:3, Insightful)
Cable modems are most certainly not the most cost-efficient solution for rural areas.
If cable companies were to service rural areas unsubsidized, then they would have to charge extremely high rates, in which case the rural areas would simply use satellite.
Satellite is the best solution for rural areas. Don't charge the rest of us unnecessary taxes to solve a problem that doesn't exist.