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Canadian Privacy Commissioner Speaks Out 18

lbedford writes "As linked from Karlin Lillington's blog, the Canadians are struggling with big brother style laws coming through. The Canadian Privay Commissioner, George Radwanski, has this to say: 'The fundamental human right of privacy in Canada is under assault as never before.'"
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Canadian Privacy Commissioner Speaks Out

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  • by heldlikesound ( 132717 ) on Saturday February 08, 2003 @06:26PM (#5260988) Homepage
    ....I would feel bad for them.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    And more frightening yet, many Canadians [canoe.ca] are in favor.

    Sure, online polls are worthless, but the fact of the matter is that nobody up here would care enough to cheat on this one.

    The Globe and Mail had a similar online poll on the same sort of question with less suggestive answers (In favour? Yes/No), but it still came close to being an even split for and against.

    My favourite remark on the matter came in the form of a letter to the editor... "So, rather than allowing those draconian American border guards to fingerprint us, our government should pre-emptively do it the "Canadian way." Mr. Coderre says he's a chess player. Is he always in the habit of checkmating himself?"

    • The saddest thing is that the Canadian parliament, just like all the legislators on the globe will ignore George Radwanski, and others like him. They will not let this opportunity to grab power pass. Global totalitarianism will probably come to pass, followed by World War III, which will probably be Christianity vs. Islam, followed by a new dark age. Einstein said he did not know how we would fight World War III, but he did know how we would fight World War IV. With sticks and stones.
  • he did it in private so unfortunately nobody heard
    • It was all over the CBC [cbc.ca] about a week ago. It was anything but a private statement.
      "George Radwanski made the comment in his annual report tabled in Parliament Wednesday."
      He also made a press release and stuck it on the front of the privacy commission web page. Other than taking out paid adds, and chaining himself to the parliament's copy of the anti-terrorism bill (that tried to label just about any effective politicial action "terrorism"), I don't think that he could do a whole lot more.
      • Also, he invited the provincial privacy commisioners to join in his protest, and many of them did -- something that has never happened before (provincial privacy commisioners speaking out on a federal issue). Well, at least the privacy commisioners are doing their job..... and someone is saying something.......
        • Provincial commissioners comment on federal legislation all the time. Read the transcripts of the senate hearings on Bill C-54 and C-6 (PIPEDA)- I'm pretty sure Cavoukian from Ontario spoke, and I'm fairly sure Flaherty from BC spoke too.

          Now in thay case, it was going to affect them pretty directly, given the opting-out system of that legislation.

          The present commissioner, IMHO, is the worst we've ever had in Canada. I thought the incident regarding his open letter to the Information Commissioner regarding an appeal that was before the courts was appalling. See this [opengovernmentcanada.org], wherein Radwanski is quoted as writing that having the Prime Minister turn over agendas showing his meeting schedule would be "tantamount to informational rape."

  • Not Good (Score:2, Funny)

    by ELCarlsson ( 570500 )
    All I have to say is this is no good. I was planning on moving to Canada if the Patriot Act II is passed. Oh well, any good tech jobs in Mexico?
  • Well, they might be destroying our privacy, but they can't do anything about it. The great thing about living up here in Canada, as you all know, is the eight month winters. My *mailman* doesn't even get to my house this time of year. I'd like to see the police try to follow up a warrant anywhere in town when the mail can't even get delivered ...
  • by 0x0d0a ( 568518 ) on Saturday February 08, 2003 @08:14PM (#5261514) Journal
    Why the hell don't we in the US have a privacy commissioner? That's not fair!
    • Heh..... we've actually got 14, I think. 1 federal + 10 provinces + 3 territories. Or at least 11, I don't know if the territories have them. Whatever.

      In any case, it's always nice to have a government with some built-in checks on its power. Hopefully it will actually mean something in this case.

      On that note, it's also nice to have news that covers this sort of thing. Good ol' CBC :)

  • This bill will pass unless it is so far out there that even the parliament members can consciously vote in favor of this.

    What will Canadian citizens do about it? Nothing, just look at how many posts there are. (9)
    • by Soko ( 17987 ) on Sunday February 09, 2003 @02:51AM (#5262952) Homepage
      This bill will pass unless it is so far out there that even the parliament members can consciously vote in favor of this.

      You forget that under our crippled system, the PM currently decides what will pass and what won't. For those not in the know, the PM can severaly discipline any member of his party that doesn't vote as the PMs caucus decides. With a majority government, the PM is basically a dictator. Ergo, if Jean wants it passed, it gets passed.

      In Canada, when you write to your MP, you always, always, always send a copy to the PM and the Minister responsible for the legislation you're commenting on - in this case

      The Honourable Elinor Caplan
      Minister of National Revenue
      555 Mackenzie Avenue
      Ottawa, Ontario
      K10 0L5
      - just so you know.

      What will Canadian citizens do about it? Nothing, just look at how many posts there are. (9)

      Hey, it's bloody cold tonight - my cable connection just thawed out enough for me to respond, and I'm in Southern Ontario. Winter^H^H^Hnipeg won't be able to respond until, say April??? ;-)

      Soko

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