Memoirs Found in a Bathtub 217
Memoirs Found in a Bathtub | |
author | Stainislaw Lem |
pages | 200 |
publisher | Harvest Books |
rating | 9 |
reviewer | Brooks Talley |
ISBN | 0156585855 |
summary | A dizzying voyage into the world of a paranoid bureaucracy |
I have some history with Lem's work. Years back, I went on a serious Stanislaw Lem bender. I read and loved pretty much all of his stuff. So it came as a surprise to me to run across Memoirs Found in a Bathtub (hereafter MFiaB). It was published in 1971, so it was certainly out and available when I was reading Lem left and right; I must have just missed it somehow.
And in a way I'm happy that I left accidentally left my future self this treat. MFiaB is a fantastic piece of work. I won't give away any spoilers that happen after the first ten pages or so. The setup alone, though, is pretty representative of what you're in for if you pick up this book.
MFiaB is perhaps the most overtly political thing I've read from Lem, which is saying a lot: Lem specializes in parables and satire that expose the absurdity of modern life in general and politics in particular. MFiaB tells the first-person story of a man who lives in "the Building." The Building is an entirely self-contained society that the book explains was built when the United States and Russia both relocated their critical governmental functions to isolated bunkers after the appearance of a paper-eating bacteria destroyed civilization as we know it.
It seems that the Building is at war with the Anti-Building, and it's a fierce war between two incredible bureaucracies. Everyone is a potential spy, most people could be double agents, triple agents aren't uncommon, and the recent appearance of quadruple, quintuple, sextuple and even septuple agents has really increased the confusion and paranoia level. Of course, agents aren't just working for the Building or anti-Building -- the various departments and fiefdoms within the Building itself spy on each other and attempt to unmask each others' agents.
The story is told in the first-person by a cadet of some sort in the Building. His name is never mentioned in the book, a parallel to Kafka's The Castle where the protagonist is referred to only as "K." As with The Castle, our protagonist is sometimes very sympathetic and sometimes very frustrating; it's clear who we're following, but I was never quite clear what to think of the fellow.
In marked contrast to The Castle, though, our protagonist in MFiaB starts out by receiving a Mission. A Secret Mission, from the Commander in Chief himself. Or maybe it was the Chief Commander - or maybe someone else entirely. Problem is, his superiors won't tell him what the mission is, let alone the proper chain of command to clarify it. Through accidental subterfuge and persistence, he finally corners someone into providing his mission briefing, however some part of the officialdom steals it back before he can read more than the first somewhat disturbing page. (According to the one page he has time to read, phase one of his mission involves cornering his superiors and forcing them to provide the mission briefing.) However, it's possible that pursuing the ambiguity of the mission is his mission, so he's duty-bound to get on about it. Besides, he really doesn't know what else to do.
It goes on from there. A serious reflection of cold-war paranoia and partisanship, MFiaB is an exploration of how a closed, bureaucratic, paranoid society can become dependent on its own closed, bureaucratic, paranoid ways to the point where any attempt to introduce sanity is an act of treason.
While the book centers on the claustrophobic / claustrophilic society in the Building, it's not at all abstract and detached -- there are several fairly violent scenes, and at least one suicide. Not to mention numerous arrests, betrayals which might actually be assistance, and other more ambiguous but just as disturbing events. MFiaB really succeeds in bringing home the mental-health effects of constant vigilance and its inevitable descent into paranoia. Again like Catch-22 or The Castle, MFiaB succeeds as a comedy, a tragedy, a farce, and a cautionary tale. I found myself reading some sentences a couple of times and getting completely different feelings from them each time.
If you haven't read Lem before, this may or may not be a good place to start. MFiaB is dense, and dizzying. If you've got a penchant for traditional literature, MFiaB is probably an excellent introduction to Lem. The use of language, neologisms, and wordplay is amazing, the more so because the book is translated from Lem's native Polish.
If you're looking for a lighter and quicker read that is still representative of Lem at his best, I'd probably recommend the also-excellent Futurological Congress. For short story fans, Tales of Prix the Pilot is an good choice. If you're willing to put some energy into it, though, MFiaB is certainly well worth the investment of time and energy, and really puts all of Lem's formidable skills to use in service of a great story. Highly recommended.
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Uh... wha? (Score:3, Funny)
And in the next episode... (Score:3, Informative)
I appreciate the effort of the review, and all, but by now, anybody likely to be on
Re:Uh... wha?::::Important Question (Score:1)
Cheers
-b
Ummmmmmm, no (Score:1)
And authoritarian bureaucracy is like the EPA, the IRS or your local town planning board.
KFG
Thank you! (Score:1)
Re:Thank you! (Score:1)
Re:Thank you! (Score:1)
Re:Thank you! (Score:1)
Solaris (Score:1)
I must find out more about this Lem fellow. Does he have many other noteworthy pieces?
Re:Solaris (Score:4, Informative)
Yes, it is the same author. "Solaris" is generally thought of as his best novel. I was always particularly fond of "Memoirs Found in a Bathtub;" it was one of the first I'd read, and I was pleased to see it reviewed here.
Other notable Lem works (IMHO of course) are "Fiasco" (a novel) and "The Star Diaries" (series of short stories). Lem would also write other fascinating truly future-science works of fiction, such as reviews of books that don't exist (e.g. "One Human Minute").
One note of caution is that many of his oldest works are coming out in recent translations, and they're not as good.
Vitrifax [std.com] is a very good website dedicated to his work.
Re:Solaris (Score:2)
If you've never read Lem before, a real good place to start -- complete mindless fun -- is "Cyberiad". It's a series of fables set in a distant past/future concerning a society of robots... in particular, two inventors who constantly try to outdo each other.
You will no doubt come across snippets that you have seen before in
MFiaB, tho, is one of my all-time favorites.
Re:Solaris (Score:1)
Re:Solaris (Score:2)
I'm personally more fond of some of Lem's experiments with the writing format. One Human Minute is a review of nonexistent books, it's hilarious. Imaginary Magnitude is a book containing prefaces of nonexistent books. Of course, it has a prefix itself. I will never forget the first line of the preface, "I have often thought the art of writing prefaces deserved more attention."
Anyway, the SF world to me divides into two poles, represented by Lem and Phil Dick. In fact there was a widely known dispute between Lem and Dick. Lem lashed out at Dick because he thought Dick was dragging SF ideals through the mud. He thought Dick was too lowbrow, too much drugs and puke and mental illness and dystopianism. A lot of writers came to Dick's defense and finally convinced Lem that he was more like Dick than he cared to admit. Someone once called Lem the most intelligent man that ever lived, and that's diametrically opposed to the speed-freak paranoid California PKD we all know and love. To me, they're just two different routes that brought about cyberpunk. Couldn't have done it if either Lem or PKD weren't there first.
Lem and Dick (Score:2)
Soderbergh also did Kafka (Score:1)
Re:The BOOKS (Score:2, Informative)
There are many more:
Stanislaw Lem [rpi.edu]
The writing of Stanislaw Lem [std.com]
Re:Solaris (Score:1)
Lem Advice (Score:2)
MEK
My personal vector (Score:2, Interesting)
Wow, he really nails home this point :) (Score:1)
I think this is excellent proof of the following statement...
If you haven't read Lem before, this may or may not be a good place to start. MFiaB is dense, and dizzying.
I'm not sure if I would pick up this book. I prefer my reading to be casual and entertaining if not intriguing. I wouldn't want to have to keep scrap paper
tracking the sides (Score:1)
piece of paper wouldn't help you at all; no figure in the book knows it's own side...
seriously, i read about 20 books by lem (probably many more than published in the us?); he greatly shaped my sense for irony and positive sarcasm. his style is for me on one side connected with the strugazki brothers (sci-fi), on the other side there are duerrenmatt and kafka (paranoia, institutions, labyrinth).
in general, the comments in this thread by people who have read some of his books are in line with some of my experiences.
Re:tracking the sides (Score:2)
To my recollection, the best bit in the novel is Lem's parody of the canonical "spy seduced by spy babe" scene. It's a little cheesy but a great deal of fun.
Tracking the sides (Score:2)
In invisible ink! :D
Sci Fi Novel from WHO? (Score:2, Funny)
"It is as if Jorge Luis Borges, Kafka, Kurt Vonnegut Jr., and Orwell got together to write a sci-fi novel..."
Now, call me old fashioned, but I'm more of a RH/Pohl/Asimov/Smith fan.
If Borges, Kafka, Vonnegut and Orwell got together to write a scifi novel, we'd have a surrealist oppressive society trying to decide how paranoid to be about it's own growing internal facism.
Re:Sci Fi Novel from WHO? (Score:2)
That's fairly close to what Lem's Memoirs is
And it would really, really suck.
Except that it DOESN'T suck.
Re:Sci Fi Novel from WHO? (Score:2)
> decide how paranoid to be about it's own growing
> internal facism.
Wow, just the the U.S. today! And yes, it sucks.
Re:Sci Fi Novel from WHO? (Score:1)
Isn't this the RPG Paranoia? (Score:3, Interesting)
(Was:Isn't this the RPG Paranoia?) (Score:1)
The Computer Is Your Friend!
Reminds me of a Phillip K Dick book... (Score:3, Interesting)
Around the same time I read a Phillip K Dick book whose title I cannot recall but whose premise sounds similar, with a couple mind-bending twists. In it the two forces are going forward and backwards in time, reading (and maybe changing) a history book about the war they're fighting. Anyone remember this?
Re:Reminds me of a Phillip K Dick book... (Score:1)
Re:Reminds me of a Phillip K Dick book... (Score:2, Informative)
A Scanner Darkly is my all time favorite PHD novel, I can't recommend it highly enough.
Re:Reminds me of a Phillip K Dick book... (Score:2)
Re:The Man In The High Castle (Score:2)
I have not read this particular Lem book, but am surprised at how obviously stoled from Kafkas "The Trial" (not "The Castle!") many parts of this story seems (i.e. the protagonist is never called by his name (although Josef K. is once in the first sentence of "The Trial"), it is set in an overly bureaucratic society, and, most of all, whereas K. stumbles throughout the book to find out what he is accused of, the main character in MFiaB does the same, only he has to find out what his mission is.
If you ask me, Lem has always been highly overrated anyway.
And speaking of PKD and dubbel, triple and quadruple agents, check out his "A Scanner Darkly" where the protagonist is an agent spying on himself, making him an infinitle agent. Beat that!
Re:The Man In The High Castle (Score:2)
As far as MFiaB and The Castle, there are numerous parallels in plot setup, sylistic devices, and plot advancement, especially (sort of spoilerish) the ironic breakthrough that finally allows the protagonist to get out of the trap (or, to at least change the nature of the trap).
If you've read the more recent (1998, I think) english translation of The Castle, you'll know what I mean. The older "translation" included all sorts of edits by Kafka's original posthumous agent, Max Brod, including the criminal truncation of the book before the actual end. It's possible that the parallels between MFiaB and The Castle weren't as clear in the botched english version which was all we had until 1998.
I don't think Lem or anyone ever claimed that MFiaB was completely original with no reference intended to Kafka's work. I saw it as clearly a homage and intentional adaptation of a great work to a different time. Nothing wrong with that, in my book.
Anyways, I can completely sympathize with thinking Lem is overrated, though I can't imagine feeling that way myself. However, I do feel that way about Joyce and a few other writers people consider classic, which gets me into all sorts of trouble with Lit. types. To each their own.
Cheers
-b
Re:The Man In The High Castle (Score:2)
Good idea. It's by many considered his best. I'm not sure I agree with them completely, but it's no doubt PKD at his finest.
If you've read the more recent (1998, I think) english translation of The Castle, you'll know what I mean. The older "translation" included all sorts of edits by Kafka's original posthumous agent, Max Brod, including the criminal truncation of the book before the actual end. It's possible that the parallels between MFiaB and The Castle weren't as clear in the botched english version which was all we had until 1998.
I have never read Kafka in English, mind you, but thanks anyway. However, given the fact that "The Castle" was largely unfinished at the time of Kafkas death, I think it unfair to blame Brod for "botchering" it. Rather, I think one should acknowledge that the more recent translation is of superior quality and let that be the end of it.
I don't think Lem or anyone ever claimed that MFiaB was completely original with no reference intended to Kafka's work. I saw it as clearly a homage and intentional adaptation of a great work to a different time. Nothing wrong with that, in my book.
Neither do I. My problem with this book, which I once again should admit I have not read, is that it does not appear to adapt it to different conditions at all. Whereas Joyce, speaking of him, takes a greek epic, squeezes it down to a days length, and puts it, of all places, in Dublin, Lem seems to take a story about a little man in a modern overly bureaucratic society and put him in a... modern overly bureaucratic society? And keep most of the story, on top of that. I'll be the first to admit that the difference between plagiarism and homage is a subtle one, but I am sure my point comes across nonetheless.
Anyways, I can completely sympathize with thinking Lem is overrated, though I can't imagine feeling that way myself. However, I do feel that way about Joyce and a few other writers people consider classic, which gets me into all sorts of trouble with Lit. types.
With Joyce people might be able to agree with you that reading him is a less than pleasant experience, but there's no denying his impact on Western litterature, even his staunchest critics will grant him that. With Lem that is not the case, which is why the comparison is a little unfair. Getting into trouble with Lit. types is not something to be ashamed of, however. My experience is that they like what they're told to like.
To each their own.
This summarizes nicely. I can't agree with you more here.
Theo
prefer non-fiction (Score:3, Interesting)
Don't get me wrong, nothing brightens my day more than an Orwellian dystopia where people are reduced to robotic flesh and emotions have been run through an authoraritarian meat grinder--I just like my gloom and doom with a dose of reality.
Funny, This inteview with Tom Cruise was found in a Bathtub too. [lostbrain.com]
tcd004
Re:prefer non-fiction (Score:1)
I think that you misunderstand the nature of this book. While parts of it definately have a dystopian nature, that is just one of the many facets. This excellent novel is also a wonderful philosophical discourse that explained the central ideas behind Post-Modernism to me better than a stack of formal treatises (how Post-Modern is that!!). What's more, the protagonist himself does not go on a dystopian style quest against/with the structures of the Building as is characteristic of most Dystopian novels. As is typical of many Eastern European and Slavic novels, he seems to be unaware of many of the greatest absurdities in his life while dwelling (absurdly dwelling you might say) on others.
I'm not arguing against non-fiction, or for fiction, or whatever; but this has got to be one of the greatest novels of all time. The contradiction that "Gloom and Doom" never enter into the story and are integral to it is just one of the many pleasures that this tomb holds.
Imediatly after reading this novel (several years ago) I was surprised to notice that I was keeping all of my notes and hand-outs for the semester in a Yellow Folder! :-)
Re:prefer non-fiction (Score:1)
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tcd004
Lem at his best (Score:5, Informative)
It is like an Odyssey (either Homer's or James Joyce's) for the cybernetic age.
Cyberiad (Re:Lem at his best) (Score:2)
Forget categories like "Stanislaw Lem" or "Science Fiction": The Cyberiad is unquestionably one of the all-time great works of literature.
Crystal Blue Paranoia (Score:1)
When one thinks of the ways that the world has changed since World War II, how many of the changes that occurred came about through reasons of war and political machinery, it is staggering to realize that we really are in a "new world," where the new military-industrial complex [msu.edu] is cloaked by bureaucracy and the old, corrupt political machines are replaced by the new, corrupt rhetoricians and wordsmiths. If Politicians, Priests, and Poets are the only real leaders, then the paradigm that separates them has changed.
Remembering Kafka's writings from college was really disturbing and revealing--nearly illuminating. Franz Kafka [levity.com] was one of the few brave souls of his period to declare through his writings that humankind had lost its rightful place in the world, and as a result, humans would become increasingly isolated, alienated, and cynical. I believe that the world is increasingly cynical and apathetic, and in many ways, our own private and public attitudes feed the modern conspiracy theorists and doomsayers. I don't think that the world is "All Doom and Gloom," but I shudder to think of being conquered by ideas rather than by guns. That's real bondage.
Re:Crystal Blue Paranoia (Score:1)
I shudder to think of being conquered by ideas rather than by guns.
Or, in other words: `I finally have to admit that I'm not actually being opressed -- in fact as a citizen of the US I live in the most free, most democratic, and most prosperous society on earth. But if I think really hard, maybe I can come up with a weird theory in which the very lack of oppression I am experiencing is itself a form of oppression, `the real bondage', if you will.'
I guess I'm not buying it.
hear hear! (Score:1)
Oh, wait . . .
Re:hear hear! (Score:1)
Or rather, `it's not like those with an axe to grind would carefully ignore the facts and instead spread their own version of events'.
Let's look at the facts of Mr. al-Muhajir's case, shall we? Mr. al-Muhajir was picked up on other charges, and has had a lawyer at every stage of the process. Even as we speak, he is contesting his transfer to military jurisdiction in a Manhattan courtroom. As with any judicial procedure, he has the right to contest the ruling that he is a combatant, and appeal as often as he may wish, to the Supreme Court if he deems it necessary.
In his appeals, the main precedent which will be referenced is Ex Parte Quirin, an extremely similar case from 1943, in which the US Supreme Court upheld the precedent, stretching back to the earliest days of our republic, that persons entering the US to commit acts of war in the service of a foreign power are subject to military jurisdiction. In particular, the court ruled in Quirin that
andSo, if you wish to make an argument that the law should be changed from what it has been since the birth of our nation, go ahead -- but don't try to convince us that the law is being changed by this case.
Re:Crystal Blue Paranoia (Score:1)
Athens was, at least for those with suffrage, a true democracy, hence the English word 'ostracize.'
Such a thing is common under democracy, and forbiden under American Republicanism.
KFG
Re:Crystal Blue Paranoia (Score:1)
Yes, you are correct. Ironically, a democratic republic, as opposed to a direct democracy is much more democratic -- which is to say that it better weighs the opinions of more of the population than direct voting would.
On any sort of large scale, direct democracy is subject to domination by regional cliques, overrepresentation of those with the most free time, and so forth.
Re:Crystal Blue Paranoia (Score:1)
Perhaps some would argue that this is not necessarily "News for Nerds," but it's certainly stuff that matters.
How's this for you? Lem is the guy that coined the term robot.
Re:Crystal Blue Paranoia (Score:2)
Nope. The term "robot" was coined by the Czech writer Josef Capek, and popularized in his brother Karel's play, titled "Rossum's Universal Robots." It's derived from the Czech word robota, which means "drudgery" or "servitude."
BTW, that's PIRX the Pilot (Score:2)
about Stanislaw Lem (Score:4, Informative)
Re:about Stanislaw Lem (Score:2)
Re:about Stanislaw Lem (Score:2)
Dystopian (Score:3, Informative)
From Dictionary.com:
Dystopian adj. Of or relating to an imaginary place or state in which the condition of life is extremely bad, as from deprivation, oppression, or terror.
neologism (Score:2, Interesting)
1. The introduction of new words, or the use of old words in a new sense.
--Mrs. Browning.
[1913 Webster]
2. A new word, phrase, or expression.
[1913 Webster]
3. A new doctrine; specifically, rationalism.
[1913 Webster]
That's my new word for the day.
Re:Dystopian (Score:1)
Not recommended if utopia is not your bag ... (Score:2, Interesting)
MFiaB however was the first of Lem's books I didn't finish - and I have read nearly all of them. The unlogical behavior of the characters sometimes made me scream - "How could ANYONE be so STUUPID?!?"
But anyways - if your looking for decent science-fiction (far away from Star Trek and sorts that is) - read Lem. And Lem. And Lem.
"Fiasko" might be a little hard at first, but boy, just too incredible
Roccoco Paranoid Alienation? (Score:1)
Its STANISLAW NOT STAINISLAW (Score:1)
Re:Its STANISLAW NOT STAINISLAW (Score:1)
Might be Stainislaw, it depends [depend.com].
Lem website: Vitrifax (Score:1)
Lem style (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Lem style (Score:2)
That's "Pirx the Pilot".
Actually have you read them all? There are several that set up the same situation - a small group of people isolated from the world, forced to deal with an unusual situation.
The Pirx stories start lighweight, but eventually get much deeper. In fact the novel "Fiasco" is sort of the last Pirx story.
Lem (Score:1)
i cannot believe this (Score:4, Interesting)
anyway it is quite amazing sodenbourgh (sp?) decided to do a remake on that, it doesnt look like hollywood type novel.
But of course one thing typical of hollywood is to remake foreign classics.
anyway i hope its good and not as melodramatic as erin brochovitch.
Re:i cannot believe this (Score:2)
However, I'm hopeful. Even though Brockovitch was hopelessly self-righteous and melodramatic, Soderbergh's other work is pretty good, especially for a mainstream hollywood director.
And, don't forget that Soderbergh's second movie (after Sex, Lies, and Videotape) was Kafka, a loose adaptation of the Castle, the book that MFiaB is an (even looser) adaptation of.
So Soderbergh's clearly got good taste in reading material, and he's got enough commercial success that hopefully the hollywood studio system won't interfere with him too much.
We'll see...
Cheers
-b
Re:i cannot believe this (Score:4, Interesting)
Solaris is one of perhaps 2-3 science fiction movies from the former Soviet block that are worth watching, and it's easily one of my top 10 favorite science fiction movies ever...
Re:i cannot believe this (Score:2, Informative)
Another one of the 2-3 is Stalker, by the
same director.
Re:i cannot believe this (Score:1)
However, one thing that the movie got exactly right was the plight and the pathos of poor Rheya...one of the most poignant characters in all science fiction, she's like a ghost come back to haunt herself. Blade Runner slightly touches on her plight with the character of Rachel, but only fleetingly and timidly; it never engages the emotions as they are engaged in the book and movie versions of Solaris.
Humm...now you're making me want to go reread Solaris, and then watch the movie
Vince
chente@attbi.com
Soderbergh also did Kafka (Score:1)
News for ? (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:News for ? (Score:1)
Re:News for ? (Score:5, Funny)
In marked contrast to The Castle, though, our protagonist in MFiaB starts out by receiving a Mission. A Secret Mission, from the Commander in Chief himself. Or maybe it was the Chief Commander - or maybe someone else entirely. Problem is, his superiors won't tell him what the mission is, let alone the proper chain of command to clarify it. Through accidental subterfuge and persistence, he finally corners someone into providing his mission briefing, however some part of the officialdom steals it back before he can read more than the first somewhat disturbing page. (According to the one page he has time to read, phase one of his mission involves cornering his superiors and forcing them to provide the mission briefing.) However, it's possible that pursuing the ambiguity of the mission is his mission, so he's duty-bound to get on about it. Besides, he really doesn't know what else to do.
It sounds like every software project I have worked on. Especially since most software projects are "a comedy, a tragedy, a farce, and a cautionary tale". That should be enough to make it relevent.
Re:News for ? (Score:1)
MS rewrite (Score:2)
REWRITE:
Our protagonist in MS starts out by receiving a Mission to update some code...Problem is, his superiors won't show him the rest of the code, let alone the proper chain of command to clarify it. Through accidental subterfuge and persistence, he finally corners someone into providing him with the code, however some part of the officialdom steals it back before he can read more than the first somewhat disturbing line./B)
Which Lem book... (Score:2)
Now I remember..."Peace on Earth". Interesting read. The Cyberiad is also excellent.
More recent books (Score:2)
Here is a short review of one of these books I wrote last year:
I don't agree with his opinions on the Net, but I think his predictions on biotech are more on the money. In fact he compares evolution to a large, massively parallel computation.
talley's tally (Score:2, Funny)
rating: 9
Whoa, talk about Kafkaesque!
Contributing to the problem? (Score:2)
The last thing geeks need to hear is complaints about how stupid bureaucracies and PHB's are. Many of us are already aware and frustrated by such.
What we really need is either a practical book on how to *fix* those problems, or a book on how to *tolerate* and live comfortably with bureaucracies and PHB mentality so that we don't keep having urges to rage against the machine and end up getting fired or demoted.
Re:Contributing to the problem? (Score:2)
The problem with all bureaucracies is their necessary assumption that all human activity can be regulated with a narrow set of rules that could fit in a book. Providing a book claiming to fix that set of rules only makes the problem all the worse.
What's truly needed is a practical book on eliminating all bureaucracy, all formal social order, without replacing it with a new one. Lacking that, no solution to leading a tolerable existance within organized society can be published--the Machine is really adaptive when it comes to crushing people's dreams. We're all on our own, and your fellow geek getting upset and disturbing the social order can only help.
Political Climate (Score:1)
MFIAB is fabulous, and so is everything else Lem has written. Pick it up, you won't regret it.
My favorite part (Score:1)
The Cyberiad is also very good - sort of a cybernetic Grimm's fairy tales. I think it was the second sally where the two constructors built the multimortal polypolice beast with laser eyes that was used to kidnap King Korodulan. Along with a green gig with a lantern on the left side for a diversion.
The translation of that book was outstanding - all the terms, rhymes, puns, and alliterations came through very well.
Chip H.
Introductions to Lem (Score:1)
As others have said the Cyberiad may be the place to start, although I think the Chain of Chance is especially good to introduce people that aren't normally inclined to SF.
Another thing that's great about Lem is how easy it is to find used copies for cheap. Used Book Central [usedbookcentral.com] has MFiaB for $2!.
not an intro indeed - begin w/Solaris/Eden/Pirx/.. (Score:1)
Agreed. I think it is definitely not a "typical Lem" book. I would recommend "Solaris", "Eden", "Cyberiad" or "Pirx..." for a more typical Lem start.
Back in 1980s in Russia I was stunned by "Eden" - how did the authorities let this book out when it so obviously denounces the Soviet-style total information control? Great book indeed...
The Ruling Triumverate of SciFi (Score:2)
There have been plenty of posts on the first two so I'll just expound on the latter. CS was the man who wrote the Army's Psychological Warfare book (real name Col. Paul Linebarger). He already had a career as a Chinese studies professor, and was given a Chinese name by Sun Yat Sen. Obviously he had a full career outside of scifi but chose to write it as a hobby.
His stories revolved around a future government called the Instrumentality. No one messes with the Instrumentality- they are so way more dangerous then any other scifi government it's not funny.
The Instrumentality has been so successful at making people 'happy', using a slave race of bio-engineered ehanced humanoids from animal stock for economic activity and defending humanity that everyone is stagnating. So a lot of the main timeline stories have to do with the Rebirth, in which disease, accidental death, and misery is intentionally reintroduced and the slave races are treated right.
He also had non-Instrumentality stories, including two bizarre communist science stories, and War No. 81-Q in which wars are settled by fighting robotic zeppelins on TV (this was written in 1928!).
Most of his stuff was short stories, but he did write a novel called Norstrilia, about a boy from a superwealthy planet selling a crucial drug found on no other planet, who buys Earth. All of it.
Norstrilia and Dune came out the same year. Norstrilia is better.
Vance, LeGuin and Silverberg come close, but everyone else is an acne-pocked teenager compared to these folks.
Re:The Ruling Triumvirate of SciFi (Score:2)
Heinlein is competent, but all his books seem to follow more or less the same patterns (the hero is usually filthy rich, there's always some battle in court, etc.). Somewhat like Hollywood cinema, they're always extraordinary stories about extraordinary people. Personally I prefer extraordinary stories about ordinary people.
Silverberg has one good book (The Labyrinth) and the rest (the ones I've read, at least) are painfully bad.
Another author I like is John Varley. He usually has interesting, original ideas, and writes quite well. But in some of his books I have a feeling he just got lost and couldn't come up with an ending that made any sense.
Lem is definitely one of my favourite authors, and I'd recommend him to anyone who likes SF (and most people who don't as well). Memoirs is not a good place to start, though. Most of his books are much "lighter" and easier to read. I wouldn't recommend Memoirs (or His Master's Voice, or even Solaris) to someone who doesn't know any of his work.
Fiasco is a more or less conventional novel, where Lem's usual cynicism is woven into the story in a way that won't put off the casual readers.
Futurological Congress, Star Diaries and Memoirs of a Space Traveler are very funny books, and a good introduction to Lem's habit of creating new words to give a shape to new concepts. The same applies to a lot of his short stories. The Invasion from Aldebaran is brilliant.
Return from the Stars is (like Solaris) more about people than it is about the world, and will probably appeal to people who don't like SF, as well as to those who do.
Here are links to a couple of sites dedicated to Lem's work:
http://www.k26.com/solaris [k26.com]
http://www.cyberiad.info/english/main.htm [cyberiad.info]
RMN
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Re:The Ruling Triumverate of SciFi (Score:2)
It's kind of funny, because Lem thinks that most of Western SF is pure crap. The only writer he likes is Philip K. Dick. In Lem's book "Microworlds" he even has an essay titled: Philip K. Dick: A Visionary among Charlatans.
Lem is simply the best.... (Score:1)
I recently reread Lem's "The Futurological Congress" and was struck with how horrifyingly funny it is when read in the context the post Sept. 11 world. Lem's description of standard hotel emergency (anti-terrorism) gear is a hoot.
"Some of the hotel furnishings puzzled me---the ten-foot crowbar propped up in a corner of the jade and jasper bathroom, for example, or the khaki camouflage cape in the closet, or the sack of hardtack under the bed. Over the tub, next to the towels, hung an enormous spool of standard Alpine rope, and on the door was a card I first noticed when I went to triple-lock the super-yale. It read: "This Room Guaranteed BOMB-FREE. From the Management."
The thing that is most striking to me about Lem is how incredibly creative the man is. He tosses off more ideas per chapter (or short story) than one finds in most trilogies (or dare I say it...in the entire life's output of many science fiction writers). Miraculous stuff.
Vince
chente@attbi.com
The Star Diaries (Score:2)
Lem's hero, Ijon Tichy (kind of an interstellar Candide), gets farther and farther from Earth and runs into more and more bizarre planets. On one voyage he is Earth's representative to being admitted to the galactic UN, but humanity is barred because we evolved from garbage and a germ-laden cough, and another planet takes bioengineering to it's illogical extreme.
Any one of these stories could have been a novel in a moneygrubber's hands, but Lem keeps the ideas flowing thickly and densely (in Rucker's sense of the word). The Star Diaries is an intense read.
Re:The Star Diaries (Score:2)
SciFI as politics (Score:2)
Lem wrote Memoirs and used the US CIA as backdrop, but really he was talking about the communist police state, and tweaked it right under their noses. Plenty of Lem's other works are political, but more about smashing the humanocentric world view then anything else.
Lem's spiritual scifi predecessor Karel Capek (the man who adapted the Czech word robot to it's current meaning) had a savagely funny book called War With The Newts that was a scathing indictment of the pre-WWII environment.
Asimov's Foundation series is very very political.
Star Trek has been political from day one.
The Dune series is nothing but politics- it may be CHOAM instead of GE/Microsoft, but the people are the same.
In general well-written histories can do the job better then scifi, but scifi can get you out of a mental rut and open your mind to other possible consequences that history just cannot deal with. A history book cannot tell you about what the DMCA or Homeland Defense can turn into like Fairenheit 451 or 1984 can.
In fact, speaking of 1984, scifi dystopias might even deter such evils from occuring and create history (or at least terminate them from happening). The reverse can be true though, a lot of British paranoia about the German WWI fleet was frothed up by the 1900s functional equivalent of a scifi/Clancy novel.
Philip K Dick was a Dick? (Score:2)
my favourites (Score:2)
Danny.
If you like MFIAB... (Score:2)
...you may also like the fantasy-role-playing game Paranoia [bbc.co.uk]: a classic with a somewhat similar setting and feel. The well-written rulebook begins this way [bluemeat.com]...
Slashdot's Mistake (Score:1)
Amazon spells his name, Stanislaw.
Re:Why nobody reads sci-fi (Score:2)
There is this [slashdot.org] that eats CD layers!
Re:Why nobody reads sci-fi (Score:1)
Then please, by all means...DO NOT READ SCIENCE FICTION! And please...comment on what you have not and will never read with authority and conviciton. That always impresses people.
:-)
Vince
chente@attbi.com
Re:Why nobody reads sci-fi (Score:2)
i never wrote that drivel
:)
hava niceday
Slashdot-22 (Score:2)
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Used to be one with every copy of Linux (Score:2)
If you want to find it, get it from the Debian archives here [debian.org].