MSN vs. MAPS 10
wonderdog writes: "I don't remember seeing this here before... but MAPS has added a bunch of MSN's mail servers to their list. Catch the story at internetnews.com. It was brought to my attention by an MSN user who called us to complain that we were rejecting his mail."
Good! (Score:2)
This is a good thing, and not just because we all enjoy bashing Microsoft. (Not that there's anything wrong with bashing Microsoft ;)
Why is this good? It's because, just like the Usenet Death Penalty [stopspam.org], if MAPS takes on one of the "big boys", and wins (by forcing them to back down), it will be a great stride forward in the public's perception of MAPS as a legitimate system. MAPS needs public recognition, and standing firm on a legitimate dispute with a major player is just the way to get it.
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Let them complain. (Score:1)
Re:Good! (Score:1)
UDP vs MAPS/ORB (Score:2)
Of course, you have to consider how news and mail protocols differ; it's tons easier to get a UDP in full effect with only needed a small number of servers to send cancel messages, while you'd have to get every mail server in the world to use MAPS to achieve the same thing. Also, many ISPs tend to see news as extra, email being essectial, so if the news server is UDP'd, no big loss, but they will fight to make sure they aren't put on MAPS.
If MAPS was more like a small body of mail server operators from various organizations, including larger ISPs, then I think such events as being put on MAPS would be taken more seriously. I suspect that MSN will ingore this, thinking only the tiny fraction of linux users out there will even remotely be interested in MAPS.
It's already happened! (Score:1)
About two years ago, MS had a bunch of open relays, and got placed on the RBL. MS postured, and posed, sent threatening letters... and then backed down!
It's already happened.
*Snicker* (Score:1)
Always the same idiotic message "Accept Credit Cards! Ask Me How! 568s" subject line... Invalid return addresses and whatnot, so apparently someone is using one of the general spammer toys used to regularly spam newsgroups...;P
Let's not forget who controls what. (Score:3)
Yes, there may be problems.. but the fact remains: each individual network administrator who decides to use this service has the right to make that choice. They understand the consequences, and can also STOP using it at any time if they feel it is negatively impacting their service.
And I, for one, feel that spam is SO rude, that I don't need to do business with those who allow spammers.
seriously (Score:2)
The issue should be simple: If an ISP is not accepting your email to one of it's users, inform the user, and have them inform the ISP. As the ISP's customer, only they can affect what the ISP does with regards to maps.
An ISP's choice to use maps or not should be directly related to whether it's users wish to have the service.
Re:seriously (Score:1)
Re:Good! (Score:2)