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A Victory for Evolution in Kansas. SatanicPuppy writes "Yesterday, elections in Kansas saw four of six pro-Creationism school board members replaced by pro-Evolution candidates in a one issue election. Interestingly, it didn't go by party lines; at least one of the conservative Republicans who supported Creationism failed to make it past their party primary. Ken Willard and John Bacon are the two remaining pro-Creationism incumbents."
Stardust Program Launched. lee1 writes "Anyone with an internet connection now has the the chance to find microscopic grains of dust from beyond the solar system. The project, called Stardust@home, is patterned on projects like SETI@home. But rather than exploiting idle processor time, it will ask volunteers to search through millions of microscope images on their computer screens, exploiting spare time in general as well as ego: 'People get very competitive,' explains the project director. The first volunteer to spot an actual interstellar dust grain will get to name it and will be listed as a co-author on any resulting research papers. The images come from a NASA project called Stardust, whose primary mission was to collect samples of dust from the tail of Comet Wild 2, but might also have captured some interstellar dust that could reveal the physics of the stars that produced it. To minimize false positives and to ensure that all the grains are found, each participant will go through an online training and testing process before starting their search. They will be scored on how well they distinguish real dust grain impacts from fakes."
Lego Mindstorms goes live. MicroBerto writes "As of August 1, 2006, the next generation of Lego Mindstorms is now available for sale in North America. Mindstorms NXT is a robotics toolset that allows you to build and program robots for various purposes. It combines the power of the Lego technic building system and an all new intuitive software environment powered by National Instruments LabVIEW."
Continued backlash on the new E3. Anonymous Howard writes "Angry Gamer reacts badly to the news of the Electronic Entertainment Expo's demise. They see it as a major blow for small game developers who are having enough of a hard time getting noticed by press and retailers as it is. From the article: 'This is a win only for the EAs, Sonys and IGNs of the world. Everyone else has to fend for themselves.' It seems like the days of smaller developers getting noticed by 'drive by traffic' at E3 are over." Relatedly The Escapist Lounge has an interview with the Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences president, Joseph Olin, on what is actually happening to E3. As Joseph Olin responds: 'So it's going to take a couple of months until the world knows what the scope of E3 2007 will be, and how it will be structured. The opportunity to make material changes to improve it shouldn't be snap judgments. The rhetorical question I might pose is: "You know you have a problem. You know you need to make changes. How do you make changes and convey it and announce it, and to whom, and when?" There's never a good time. Whenever you make significant change, there's no way to introduce that change without detractors. The challenge is that without being able to announce the exact implementation of change it leaves that gray area for ignorance to fill the void.'"
Archimedes gets a webcast. jd writes "Some time ago, Slashdot covered the story of the rediscovery of several lost writings of Archimedes by means of X-Ray fluorescence. Well, they're still scanning the book and at 11pm GMT (4pm PDT) on August 4th will be putting on a live webcast as they scan and interpret pages not seen by human eyes for over a thousand years."
Another Dell bursts into flame. starwindsurfer writes "A Dell laptop's battery caught on fire in a company's IT department this week, burning a hole right through the casing. Nearby techs used fire extinguishers to put out the blaze. Employee Henrik took pictures to document the affair and uploaded them to the Toms Hardware message boards. From the writeup: 'The police department showed up. The entire lower floor was allowed to leave early and as we stood there in front of the building we simply couldn't resist... we jokingly called the engineer a terrorist as he was being asked a few questions by the friendly officer.'"
An RIAA silver bullet? Chris Fairman writes "TechDirt is running a story about how the RIAA seems to be dropping cases where the defense includes (or hinges on) an IP address as the means to identify the source of criminal activity. Essentially the defense argues that all an IP address can prove is who was paying for the net access at a particular time. Having a wide open WiFi router on your network seems to be currently the most effective means of getting the RIAA to drop all charges. Essentially the activity originating from one IP, only proves that illegal file sharing behavior is coming from one network, and not necessarily from any one specific computer or user. More importantly, it seems that the legal system is beginning to catch on to more complex technology concepts. Such concepts play a large part in how future legal cases are argued, and contribute ultimately to the foundation of complex technology legal precedents."
I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:5, Insightful)
And that, in one sentence, summarizes the fatal flaw in using religion as a means of understanding the world.
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:5, Insightful)
no.
religion is a very useful tool for observing some aspects of the world, including human nature and psychology.
it offers no understanding at all.
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:3, Informative)
Religion is a very useful tool for controling the masses. (like tv reality shows and news groups (esp. but not limited to china))
it offers neither understanding or observation
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Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:3, Insightful)
It might also be a product of God trying to sneak into our thick skulls. But be that as it may, I've never seen a simple theory of what religion is, positing that religion exist
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Horse-pucky!!!
While I agree that religious dogmatism and the like doesn't provide any useful understanding or observation, there is a lot in some religious traditions which actually do offer some insights.
I would claim that Buddism and Hinduism offer a lot of understanding and insight. And, further, I would claim that most relgions of
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
And then you reply "well, He's just always been there", and we're back to square one again. How pointless.
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
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Just like people today may embrace Science AND God concurrently (and I'm among them) to perceive what the parent-poster described as "days of God", we may get, through science, new understanding and meaning to the words in Genesis.
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Actually, probably not. The perception of the Genesis creation story used to be that it was God's Revealed Truth. Scientific research has change this; now it's viewed as just one of many charming creation myths of a primitive society, with a few ignorant religious nuts still insisting that it's Truth. This situation probably won't change in the future.
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Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:4, Insightful)
It's a shame most religions (or their followers) have lost sight of that point.
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2, Funny)
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More to the point, his example is plain wrong. If your idea of vision is limited to what you can see with your eyes in the sunlight, you are excluding a great deal of useful (and sometimes beautiful) things in this world.
An example that's rapidly becoming more familiar to a lot of people: If you visit weather sites like weather.gov, you'll see IR "false color" images of the planet that are much more informative than the visual images. For one thing, the IR works on the n
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
How so? Remember, that any sufficiently advanced technology would seem like "magic" to a sufficiently undeveloped mind. Are you really so bold as to believe that we've already advanced to the point of being capable of understanding every possible notion in existence?
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Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
I suppose you are indeed correct. A theorem can be proven, but the theories that are germane to this discussion are still nothing more than unproven theories.
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
Specifically, I find that Genisis gives insight and opinion that science can not. It tells us that the human race is the keeper of the planet, and it helps explain what makes man different from other animals. (Hint: we wear clothes!) Thes
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:3, Insightful)
So, yes to evolution, and yes to the account of creation given in the first chapter of Genesis, and yes to the account of creation given in the second chapter of Genesis.
... um, mods, how is self-contradiction "interesting"? OK, well I suppose it's interesting in the sense that it's a very, very peculiar way to think. Or rather, I suppose, doublethink, since that is literally what it is.
Even the craziest sentence in this post --
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:5, Insightful)
But there's no re-encoding necessary. The biblical account of creation only has a few crucial claims, IMO:
So far, I've never learned any science that contradicts these fundamentals. Society at large used to think God created each variety of animal ex-nihilo; now the evolutionary process is commonly accepted, even by quite a lot of Christians. This "change" doesn't affect the above tenets.
This is my viewpoint, anyway, and based on what the OP said, it's his, too. I hate to add to the offtopic-ness, but I felt like clarifying.
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:3, Insightful)
It must be very nice, just happening to be the person who knows which claims are crucial and which ones aren't.
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
I should confess that I think most people would only consider claims 1 & 3 to be crucial. It's just a personal belief of mine that eventually science will vindicate the order of things mentioned in the biblical creation account (claim 2), much in the same way that archaeologists finally found evidence of the existence of the Hebrew king David after centuries of claiming that no such evidence
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
This is a fair point, and I owe it to you to accept it and point out that I see this as the really crucial thing in your own post. But I don't accept your claim that "there are rules for literary criticism". Within limits it holds water, yes, but it looks like yo
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
Well, bonus points for correctly using the word "exegesis". I basically agree quite a bit with your post. Here's where I take things further:
So, since I believe the claims of Christianity, I must also abide by that tradition. Thus I
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
In the first creation story of Genesis, things occur in the order you listed.
In the second creation story of Genesis, Man was created before the plants and animals
So which one is it?
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
I have "re-read" the Bible. I've read it cover to cover three times, in multiple translations.
In Genesis chapter 2, it does not say that man was created before the plants and animals. There's not much chronological language in Genesis 2, in fact. It says that "the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field..." (emphasis mine), which is just a reminder of the creation detailed in chapter 1.
Which version of the Bible are you reading where Genesis 2 states or even implies that man
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
I've also read it in other versions of the bible as well.
If you are going off of the King James Bible, James in his infinite wisdom had it re-worded to make both creation stories consistent.
http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/genesis/genesis 2 .htm [nccbuscc.org]
"Such is the story of the heavens and the earth at their creation. At the time when the LORD God made the earth and the heavens-- while as yet there was no field shrub on earth and no grass of the field had sprouted, for the LORD God ha
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
The New American Bible dates from the 40s. I wouldn't consider it an extremely accurate modern translation.
That's an interesting theory. Too bad the phrase "had formed" doesn't appear in the King James in verse 19. The verb "formed" is in the qal imperfect tense but also has the waw prefix, which mean the prefix functions grammatically as "the waw consecutive". "If two verbs are referring to the past in one
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:3, Interesting)
Regardless - it is not so much of real interest that things were created in a certain order. Certainly our view of the Earth has radically changed in 2,000 years and will continue to change I am sure, as an example.
Classical studies often find that a timeline and factual accounts are far from reality -
but the Genesis account will never change....errrr (Score:2, Insightful)
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep, And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.
New International Version
Re:but the Genesis account will never change....er (Score:2)
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Klingon. Good luck. (Score:2)
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letters "Aleph Tav" (the wa'Dich je
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created the chal je the tera'.
1:2 | DaH the tera' ghaHta' formless
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Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:3, Insightful)
I was going to disagree with your contention that:
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2, Funny)
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:3, Insightful)
When the information was shared with man on how the universe and world was created, who among us could understand genetics, quantum physics, superstring theory and a host of things we still don't know about?
We understood the concept of god. We understood creating something. We knew simple numbers. We understood simple concepts for measuring time, days, seasons, etc...
If the story of creation were handed down today, I'm positive it would read differently. For one thing, we'd
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2, Informative)
"... Thus instead of an original XY for man and XX for woman, we originally had an X and Y with a half leg extending out the lower right quadrant. When that piece was removed from the original man, and combined with another to form the first XX chromosome..."
The "Y" chromosome is also X-shaped - and then only when the cell is dividing. The chromosomes double themselves, coagulate, and are linked to their doubles in the "middle", giving them an X-shape. When the cell is going about i
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
So why do some moden day people insist that a story told to Moses over 2700yrs ago is the literal truth?
I know some people struggle to reconcile modern day science with "divinely inspired" truth, but those aren't the ones I'm talking about.
P.S. Since the sun/moon/stars weren't created till day 4, how can anyone claim to know how long it took? It isn't like the sun was
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
Isn't god, like, all mighty? Why didn't he just make people understand instead of dumbing everything down to the point where it became pure stupidity?
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"Ignore it, you don't understand anyway" is a typical reaction from a religious person, but not really an answer to my question.
But that's not what I asked, now is it? The point is this: Let's assume god exists. He obviously
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
If he gives us too much information, he spoils the outcome.
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
Tell me, who "shared" the information with man? Your statement assumes a superior, or supreme, being handing out knowledge. Where did this being come from? How did that being get the information?
Sound to me like another stupid death cult ploy. Yes, christianity is a death cult.
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
If you take the hard scientific route, then nothing ever should have been.
You can't create something out of nothing, where'd the something come from?
Sounds to me like another stupid "science has all the answers and there is no god" ploy.
Yes adhering to only what you can see and comprehend is stupidity in the extreme.
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
Most of us, actually. All the evidence is that humans 5000 or 40000 years ago were every bit as intelligent as we are today. They were merely ignorant, not stupid. If God had wanted them to understand, He could very well have set up a few courses in physics and explained how it all really works. Many
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
Eventually we will learn enough, evolve enough that we will fully understand the message left to us within our genetic code.
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
This certainly doesn't mean that God/Jehovah/Allah doesn't exist...
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Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
Not provable, nor falsifiable, therefore a bullshit statement scientifically.
The concept that God has or had a hand in evolution is a metaphysical, philosophical, or theological idea. If you claim that science has an opinion on such, then you don't understand science.
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2, Interesting)
That's not quite right. You might very well have had some form of directed evolution. (The Christian god/some other god/the aliens/FSM altered/is altering genes gradually towards some goal, and here we are.)
And related to this, Darwin did not come up with the idea of evolution, that would already have been known. What he proposed was natural selection; the method that pushed evolution seemingly "forward".
But you're probabl
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
The that is certianly not natural selection. Which is what people mean when they say evolution.
"And related to this, Darwin did not come up with the idea of evolution, that would already have been known. "
no shit, really?
People still argue evolution didn't happen. Of course most people don't even know
Re:I believe in Evolution and God (Score:2)
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The evidence is here and is pretty damn conclusive. However, you prefer to believe that a book written by some people about 2000 years ago in another language, and translated several times, is "truthier" than the evidence right in front of you.
Thank God... (Score:2)
Archimedes gets a webcast (Score:2)
Re:Archimedes gets a webcast (Score:3, Funny)
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RIAA (Score:2)
If this really is as big a solution as they are making it sound, then work should be done to ensure that the information gets distributed to the mainstream college students and high school students who are the main people at risk and who are the least prepared for legal problems both in knowledge and
Re:RIAA (Score:5, Insightful)
But why do _really_ buy now? (Score:2)
A college student doesn't have a whole lot to loose (a few thousand dollars of debt is just another semester of classes). A professional who has a reputation to worry about and likely has dollars in the bank has a bit more on the line. Not trying to knock down the poster of the parent, but one has to wonder: even though a lot of posters spout similar lines to the
Re:But why do _really_ buy now? (Score:2)
I would say there is _more_ chance of me infringing copyright now than there used to be, coz now I might have to download illegal copies of things that I can't buy a CD for (because they have started selling corrupt optical discs instead of CDs).
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See http://www.skeptictank.org/gs/sci691.htm [skeptictank.org] for an article on the subject.
Re:Two Points (Score:2, Informative)
Admittedly, I speak from experience with the Australian legal s
Wifi Routers not needed. (Score:4, Interesting)
At least the courts are starting to come to their senses ( I hope ). But how does one prove you had open wifi during the time they think you did something wrong? I know personally i have mine wide open for my neighbors, but that still doesnt PROVE it.... ( i sit here now with my macmini with internet sharing going on the airport )
Re:Wifi Routers not needed. (Score:3, Insightful)
If it were a criminal case (as I understand US law) you SHOULDN'T have to prove it was someone else, just introduce the reasonable doubt that it was actually you. A dynamically assigned address and an open wifi introduce a lot of doubt.
It's up to them to prove you did it.
This unfortunately isn't a criminal case (yet!).
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Re:Wifi Routers not needed. (Score:2, Insightful)
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Say it was a frivilous lawsuit or barratry [wikipedia.org]
(move to get your lawsuit certified as a class action)
Then (refuse to?) settle.
Depending on what state you're in, claim that they intentionally inflected emotional distress [wikipedia.org] upon you. "The intent of the act need not be to bring about emotional distress. A reckless disregard for the likelihood of causing emotional distress is sufficient."
I think that girl who got told "drop out of college to pay u
Tubes (Score:5, Funny)
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New E3 (Score:2)
A more intimate event will weed out most of the people that didn't have any business there, but it will also pull out of the radar all those really innovative games that don't come from the big players, and the media interested in them.
It certainly looks bad, but now look at Hollywood, there's no place for small indie films in
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PAX (Score:4, Interesting)
I guess there's always the Penny Arcade Expo...
Root of All Evil? (Score:5, Interesting)
One of the most interesting things about it is that he tries to talk with several religious leaders about evolution, and they sistematically avoid any rational discussion and undeniable evidence with the same stupid arguments, equivalent to "my book says this and therefore, it must be true".
He brings forth the question "why can't schools just teach science in SCIENCE class?"
Quite controversial, I recommend it very much.
Watch it online (Score:2)
Re:Root of All Evil? (Score:4, Insightful)
In any group, whether religous or not, you will find nutjobs trying to usurp the group for their own purposes.
The issues with Jews and Arabs would exist even if both groups were the same religon. Anti-arab and anti-semetic feelings exist among just as many non-religous groups.
Groups like the KKK didn't claim Blacks and other non-whites followed the wrong God. They made-up their own secular reasons to justify what they already wanted to do.
Religon is just another scapegoat for bad people that want to do bad things.
The Catholic Church recognizes and supports "The Theory of Evolution", and has repeated condemed "The Hypothesis of Intelligent Design".
Re:Root of All Evil? (Score:2)
Condemnation isn't the right approach. The right way is to calmly explain why ID is wrong.
Of course, it's wrong because it's a hypothesis that can't be tested.
Hmmm
Re:Root of All Evil? (Score:3, Insightful)
Slashdot, where arm chair scientists get shouted down and arm chair theologians get modded up.
Try reading the books of the bible and then study the thoughts of some of the great Christian Apologists over the ages. Perhaps then you can stop repeating the group think of everyone that dislikes Christianity because Pat Robertson and his ilk are assholes. For example only a few small groups (and no main stream denomination) believe in the whole 'only 144000' make it into Heaven thing, even a simple search of
Re:Root of All Evil? (Score:2)
An example on earth would be the reaction of a person meeting someone who was better at something than they were, say, playing chess for examp
Re:Root of All Evil? (Score:2)
How are you qualified to say what is or is not scientific?
If you truly believed your words, you would stand behind them. Instead, you are nothing but an anonymous coward.
Asploding Dells (Score:2)
Also interesting was a link posted in the comments to the letters section [theinquirer.net] of the inquirer regarding why Li-on batteries might catastrophically fail.
So it's come to Kansas now (Score:3, Insightful)
Straight to the classroom... (Score:5, Insightful)
Novel Scientific Claim > Research > Peer Review > Scientific Concensus > Classroom & Textbook
Intelligent Design proponents are doing the follow;
Intelligent Design "Theory" > Classroom & Textbook
If Intelligent Design supporters are so confident in their research and findings which supposedly vindicate the literal truth of the Bible, why do they skip the most important process in getting their theory accepted?
Meanwhile we have Ken Ham already building a 25 million dollar creation science museum [youtube.com].
These Dell stories... (Score:2)
Re:Joseph Olin (Score:2)
Oh, I left out Phantom. Well, I guess they can have their own show, too. =)
Re:Like eating regurgitated food. (Score:2)
Re:Like eating regurgitated food. (Score:3, Insightful)
There are some of us that weren't available in the original discussion and have something to say. So, if you already posted or read something about these topics before, then it's very simple for you not to click in the story and not to produce more ad impressions to the oh-so-greedy editors.
Just ignore them, that works quite better than complaining.
Re:IP Address (Score:2)
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Re:Stardust@Home (Score:2)
Re:Your one and only friend when it comes to RIAA. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Your one and only friend when it comes to RIAA. (Score:2)