Musk Concludes Testimony At OpenAI Trial

An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNBC: Elon Musk wrapped up his testimony on Thursday as the trial in his lawsuit against OpenAI CEO Sam Altman continued into its fourth day. OpenAI's attorney, William Savitt, cross-examined Musk in the morning. He asked Musk about the capped nature of Microsoft's investments in OpenAI, his involvement in negotiations about the company's structure, and whether he knew about the OpenAI nonprofit's recent initiatives. "I don't know what's going on at OpenAI," Musk testified.

Savitt also asked Musk about his competing artificial intelligence startup, xAI. While not the main focus of the case, Musk said it is "partly" true that xAI used some of OpenAI's models to train its own models, a process known as distilling. Musk also suggested that xAI has used OpenAI's technology to help build the company. Musk sued OpenAI, Altman, and Greg Brockman, the company's president, in 2024, alleging that they went back on their commitments to keep the artificial intelligence company a nonprofit and to follow its charitable mission. He claims that the roughly $38 million he donated to seed OpenAI, a company he co-founded, was used for unauthorized commercial purposes.

Once Musk wrapped up his testimony after roughly two hours of questioning on Thursday, his attorneys called Jared Birchall, who manages Musk's billions at his family office, as their next witness. Birchall testified about his knowledge of Musk's specific donations to OpenAI. Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers oversaw the proceedings from federal court in Oakland, California. The trial will resume on Monday. Recap:
Elon Musk Says OpenAI Betrayed Him, Clashes With Company's Attorney (Day Three)
Musk Testifies OpenAI Was Created As Nonprofit To Counter Google (Day Two)
Elon Musk and OpenAI CEO Sam Altman Head To Court (Day One)

(Illegal) Alien vs Predator

[Mr. Dollar Ton]

Whichever wins, everyone else loses :)

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[dfghjk]

and why are we to think "a Chinese dude living and Singapore" is a problem? and why would "a Chinese dude living and Singapore" want to be an "illegal alien"? Perhaps Singapore doesn't allow wide stances in public restrooms that Mr Stalkerbot uses for hookups?

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[ArchieBunker]

Autism and mental illness.

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[Tablizer]

git the Troll-B-Gone spray

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[dfghjk]

Ease up on the reality, we all need to believe that both will lose! We can at least hope the appeals will be costly.

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[Mr. Dollar Ton]

Amen, bro, but both have enough to not notice 10 cases like this one.

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[Tablizer]

I want the cut where they mutually eat each other, 69 style.

TF

[ArmoredDragon]

This is the OJ trial, slashdot edition.

Re: You are a right wing extremist and mark

[dfarrow]

You keep spamming this copy-pasted comment for the last few years. Low-effort and low-energy.

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[dfghjk]

AI is a fraud, without the sociopaths at the top it would remain a research topic. They aren't the engineers, but engineers aren't the important part.

Also, hurting AI is desperately needed. AI must have fundamental respect for human values, it does not and it will not as long as sociopaths are in charge.

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[drinkypoo]

AI must have fundamental respect for human values, it does not and it will not as long as sociopaths are in charge.

It does not and it will not as long as it doesn't even have the concept of having the concept of something like respect. It doesn't have concepts. It has a model which it churns through and poops out patterns.

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[ArchieBunker]

Claude is doing some impressive things in regards to generating code.

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[necro81]

Somebody could have assassinated the assholes involved. Wouldn't hurt AI any. The people in that court room are not the engineers.

I guess the AI isn't quite smart enough to figure that one out.

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[Bill, Shooter of Bul]

It wouldn't now. I agree. But I think Sam deserves some.. Credit for this current AI cycle. He was the one bold enough to unlesh LLM's and market them to the masses. Google was too timid to do it. Ironically, Open Ai was supposed to prevent this from happening. But Sam is Sam, asking him to show restraint is cuckoo bonkers, its like asking Epstein to start a preteen modeling agency so they don't get trafficked. It would take some one stupid as Musk to put him in charge.

Re: A missed opportunity

[RazorSharp]

I do not think we should pat Sam on the back for unleashing AI on the masses. The big problem is that we currently have no way of doing this efficiently or profitably. Companies like Google were right to keep this stuff locked away until it was actually commercially viable, and what OpenAI did by forcing their hand was grossly irresponsible and they only did it so Sam Altman could become a billionaire (while making no profits for his company. . .).

Now our tech industry is creating a massive bubble, much of

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[Bill, Shooter of Bul]

I was not trying to heap praise on the guy (I did compare him to Epstein... ) , but if you want to blame him or praise him, I think he's very much responsible for the modern LLM commercialization.

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[TheMiddleRoad]

Unleashing AI has been a net bad thing. Information has gotten harder and harder to find online. Spam volume has grown, getting past filters. Big businesses with resources are taking advantage, and the little guys are getting fucked more than ever. Bravo to Google for NOT releasing AI like a pox onto the masses, and Fuck Sammyboy for doing so.

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[karmawarrior]

The Middle Road: "I'm not an extremist, I think Trump Musk AOC and Sanders are extremists, I am a proud centrist who isn't extreme at all"

Also The Middle Road: "Isn't it a shame we're not all murdering each other."

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[TheMiddleRoad]

Clowns to the left of me. Jokers to the right. Here I am, very fucking far away from you.

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[Tablizer]

Fuck Trump Musk AOC Sanders far right n' left tech bros ICE Islamophobes antisemites mullahs pedopriests nationalists...

Found one of the few violent centrists.

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[TheMiddleRoad]

Read a history book. WWII was won by violent centrists.

Hard to take it seriously

[hdyoung]

Musk tried playing the fragile, wronged champion-of-humanity, trying to tell a story about how the Evil Sam Altman snookered him into thinking that OpenAI would always be nonprofit and put humanity first. He practically gave the testimony with tears streaming down his face.

He does NOT pull off that look very well.

It's hard to take him seriously about the harms of AI when Grok is the #1 LLM for Nazi propaganda and fabricating revenge porn. I know people who use Grok for real work. But it doesn't exactly prioritize human well-being

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[stabiesoft]

Hopefully the jury sees the crocodile tears and finds appropriately. Not that I like altman either, but the correct answer legally is musk loses. Hopefully with him stuck with court costs and altman's legal fees. It was always about musk not getting his way.