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New WinRAR Version Strips Windows Metadata In Privacy Push (bleepingcomputer.com) 48

WinRAR 7.10 now lets users remove potentially sensitive metadata from downloaded files while preserving core Windows security features. The file compression tool's latest release introduces a "Zone value only" setting that strips download locations and IP addresses from Windows' Mark-of-the-Web security flags during file extraction.

The new privacy control, enabled by default, maintains only the basic security zone identifier that triggers Windows' safety prompts for downloaded files. This change prevents recipients of shared archives from accessing metadata that could reveal where files originated. The update from win.rar GmbH, whose compression software claims 500 million users worldwide, also adds performance improvements through larger memory page support and introduces a dark mode interface.

New WinRAR Version Strips Windows Metadata In Privacy Push

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  • First (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 21, 2025 @11:39AM (#65184897)
    In before the idiotic comments of "people still use WinRAR? HAW HAW HAW!" Yes, I still use WinRAR. It's interface is MUCH better than WinZip (whose interface borders on the insane). And Windows built-in zip support is sucks ass and is limited.
    • Re:First (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Guspaz ( 556486 ) on Friday February 21, 2025 @12:07PM (#65184989)

      Nobody uses WinZip. Most people switched to 7zip.

      • by Anonymous Coward
        Nobody? Tell my Fortune 500 company that. Also, someone of us don't just follow the crowd. We use the software we want to.
        • Corporations are not people despite what the supreme court wants you to believe.

          We use the software we want to.

          Yeah but who *wants* to use WinZip? That would be like ... okay I remember there are people who like to dress in gimp outfits and have others kick them in the balls repeatedly so I guess someone out there wants to use WinZip.

      • Actually most people stopped caring about a zip program when Windows started natively supporting zip archives. Most *nerds* use 7zip (myself included). I've yet to see it on another machine.

      • by antdude ( 79039 )

        Does it already strips Windows Metadata?

    • In before the idiotic comments of "people still use WinRAR? HAW HAW HAW!"

      Yes, I still use WinRAR. It's interface is MUCH better than WinZip (whose interface borders on the insane). And Windows built-in zip support is sucks ass and is limited.

      $ tar cvjf foo.tbz2 files...

      • by KGIII ( 973947 )

        If you want to, you can use winRAR on Linux via the terminal.

        I don't recommend it (use PeaZip) but you can do it.

    • by jonwil ( 467024 )

      Why anyone would use WinRAR when 7Zip is a thing is beyond me...

      7Zip is superior to WinRAR in basically every way that matters in 2025 (including its cost since its free and open source)

  • by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 ) on Friday February 21, 2025 @11:48AM (#65184921)

    how meany paying users do they have?

    • by Njovich ( 553857 )

      Probably more than Slashdot, yet here we are

    • how meany paying users do they have?

      (Narrator) We suddenly find our curious reader resisting the urge to break out the CD-ROM archive just to see if the ol' trusty **CRAAACK3D** version of 'RaR loads up on Win10...

    • https://babylonbee.com/news/gr... [babylonbee.com]

      NOVI, MI — Local man Greg Hartford just made history by becoming the first person in the world to purchase WinRAR. Previously, no one had bothered to buy a license since the software's free trial can be used perpetually, essentially making it free.

      "Wait, it's free?" Hartford said when asked for a comment. "But it said I had to buy a license."

      WinRAR, a file archiver and data compression utility, launched in 1995 with zero sales. It is currently sold by win.rar
  • by itsme1234 ( 199680 ) on Friday February 21, 2025 @11:50AM (#65184929)

    There is a lot of file-system level data that shouldn't be included in the first place, at least by default, starting with the owner of the file. Now of course everyone would like to have a way to get as much as possible: all permissions, owner, all (at least 3 in NTFS?) time stamps, alternate data streams and so on, but that's generally unwanted: you'd need to be an admin or similar to properly unpack it and set everything, and then you'll just need to find a way to fiddle with permissions/take ownership to be actually able to access the files you just unpacked! The default should just be the file name/content/directory if there is one and a time stamp. The archival/backup mode should get everything of course, but that shouldn't be the default.

    • Both tar and info-zip on Linux store owner/permission fs metadata by default.

      These are admin tools, why shouldn't they default to storing things like origin metadata? Archives of your filesystem are not normally shared with the public, or am I missing something here. Is a zip of your filesystem something you normally share with people, and the url you downloaded an internal file from is a concern? Software publishers use installers take care of setting permissions when the internal archive is extracted. MSI

    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      "Mark of the web" metadata is used to indicate if a file was downloaded.

      7zip inadvertently stripped the metadata which meant it disabled some additional security scanning that takes place - if you decompressed the file it didn't get applied to the inner files.

      This trait was exploited by several pieces of malware to silently install themselves because Windows believed the file was obtained from a trusted source.

      7zip now properly respect the flag and sets it on files unpacked from 7zip archives with the flag

      • WinRAR stripping it just means all the malware moves to RAR files now

        WinRAR is not stripping it. RTFS.

      • They're leaving the MotW with only the security zone, like that it came from the internet, and removing the exact url and stuff like that. So it should trigger the same response from security tools.

        I want to know the bigger story, someone got caught pirating something because the download url ID'd them right.

        I can't think of a plausible legit reason this would be a problem. What else gets those motw tags, office files? Someone wrote up a business proposal in Word, posted it on an external file hosting servi

  • by JakFrost ( 139885 ) on Friday February 21, 2025 @04:02PM (#65185641)

    I just had to enable this policy setting to disable the zone information alternate stream since I copied some files from my old laptop to my new work laptop and I had to use the IP address because the idiots that manage DNS disabled automatic DNS registration for VPN clients. So now I could not find my old machine by the name had to use the IP address. So every single file from my documents folder that I was migrating ended up getting marked with the zone information in the mark of the web as being downloaded from the internet.

    Windows - Group Policy - User, Windows Component's, Attachment Manager

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en... [microsoft.com]

    ./User/Vendor/MSFT/Policy/Config/AttachmentManager/DoNotPreserveZoneInformation

    This policy setting allows you to manage whether Windows marks file attachments with information about their zone of origin (such as restricted, Internet, intranet, local). This requires NTFS in order to function correctly, and will fail without notice on FAT32. By not preserving the zone information, Windows can't make proper risk assessments.

            If you enable this policy setting, Windows doesn't mark file attachments with their zone information.

            If you disable this policy setting, Windows marks file attachments with their zone information.

            If you don't configure this policy setting, Windows marks file attachments with their zone information.

    Power shell - Unblock-File

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en... [microsoft.com]


    Get-ChildItem -Recurse -File |
    Unblock-File

    The Unblock-File cmdlet lets you open files that were downloaded from the internet. It unblocks PowerShell script files that were downloaded from the internet so you can run them, even when the PowerShell execution policy is RemoteSigned. By default, these files are blocked to protect the computer from untrusted files.

    Before using the Unblock-File cmdlet, review the file and its source and verify that it is safe to open.

    Internally, the Unblock-File cmdlet removes the Zone.Identifier alternate data stream, which has a value of 3 to indicate that it was downloaded from the internet.

    For more information about PowerShell execution policies, see about_Execution_Policies.

    This cmdlet was introduced in Windows PowerShell 3.0.

    • by JakFrost ( 139885 ) on Friday February 21, 2025 @04:05PM (#65185649)

      I almost forgot the good old SysInternals Streams command.

      https://learn.microsoft.com/en... [microsoft.com]


      Streams.exe -s -d *.*

      The NTFS file system provides applications the ability to create alternate data streams of information. By default, all data is stored in a file's main unnamed data stream, but by using the syntax 'file:stream', you are able to read and write to alternates. Not all applications are written to access alternate streams, but you can demonstrate streams very simply. First, change to a directory on a NTFS drive from within a command prompt. Next, type 'echo hello > test:stream'. You've just created a stream named 'stream' that is associated with the file 'test'. Note that when you look at the size of test it is reported as 0, and the file looks empty when opened in any text editor. To see your stream enter 'more

    • Wait, you did a laptop migration, over the VPN? Backing up to a company file server wasn't an option?
      And since the theme today is winrar, it never occurred to rar/zip your My Documents and transfer that?

      Dude... you do you, but come on.

  • People still use WinRAR and WinZIP?

    What happened to good old tar!

    tar -zcvf :) :) :)
    • by ebunga ( 95613 )

      Buddy, I not only have licenses for win-rar, I also have licenses for pkzip and actually pay for maintenance.

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