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FTC Launches Broad Tech 'Censorship' Probe Targeting Meta, Uber (yahoo.com) 130

The U.S. Federal Trade Commission has launched an inquiry into potential "censorship" by technology platforms ranging from Meta to Uber, marking an escalation in scrutiny of content moderation practices. FTC Chair Andrew Ferguson called for public comment on what he termed "Big Tech censorship," describing it as "un-American" and "potentially illegal."

The broad probe could examine social media, video sharing, ride-sharing and event planning services. The announcement follows long-standing Republican claims that conservative viewpoints face discrimination on social media platforms.

FTC Launches Broad Tech 'Censorship' Probe Targeting Meta, Uber

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  • by SouthSeb ( 8814349 ) on Thursday February 20, 2025 @03:07PM (#65182727)

    conservative viewpoints face discrimination on social media platforms

    Enter any of the main social networks right now. Navigate 10 minutes in each. Come back and repeat the above claim.

    • by Ksevio ( 865461 ) on Thursday February 20, 2025 @03:15PM (#65182763) Homepage

      I wonder which "conservative viewpoints" are being censored? Small government? Fewer regulations? Lower taxes?

      Surprising that moderators would crackdown on those....unless they're talking about some OTHER viewpoints

    • by XXongo ( 3986865 ) on Thursday February 20, 2025 @03:34PM (#65182823) Homepage

      conservative viewpoints face discrimination on social media platforms

      Enter any of the main social networks right now. Navigate 10 minutes in each. Come back and repeat the above claim.

      That won't tell you anything. The algorithms show you the feed that the algorithm calculates is right for you (where "right" means "is most likely to keep you clicking"). You won't be able to tell it it's discriminating unless you can see what's being fed INTO the feed, and then see what gets forwarded to multiple different users with different profiles.

    • Facebook is spamming MAGA posts in the last few weeks. Zuck has drunk the koolaid.

      Are the also investingating X (aka Twitter)? Or does Musk get a pass because of his special role as president?

      If this goes through, expect huge increases in flat earth posts again. And anti-vax, etc.

    • Enter any of the main social networks right now. Navigate 10 minutes in each. Come back and repeat the above claim.

      That was some research done that actually showed that rather than bbeing a "liberal bias" the sites either basically just showed you whatevver you already believed (facebook, threads), or tended to surface conservative content more (twitter, youtube). Obviously there are some networks that lean a bit more left, notably bsky and mastodon, but mastodon is kinda tiny and bsky was largely formed af

  • by Major_Disorder ( 5019363 ) on Thursday February 20, 2025 @03:09PM (#65182733)
    What (orange) victim caused this "investigation" to happen.
  • and watch the focus stay only on censorship against conservatives and around covid, which was real per Zuck's own admission, and not the censorship of people posting about Israel or Palestine. That's the one kind of censorship that is nearly ubiquitous, so much so that MSM and government won't acknowledge it

  • witch hunt (Score:5, Informative)

    by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Thursday February 20, 2025 @03:12PM (#65182741) Homepage Journal

    Until they do away with section 230, it's legal to do just about any amount of censorship on your platform unless it is government funded.

    • Until they do away with section 230, it's legal to do just about any amount of censorship on your platform unless it is government funded.

      Government funded censorship is legal until someone comes along and fucking does something.

      Last guy had to write a check for $44 billion.

      • Good thing he was able to get a big pile of Saudi money, and another big pile of Russian money, and oh yeah then used that platform to illegally provide free advertising for a presidential candidate.

      • >Last guy had to write a check for $44 billion.

        The users who didn't want to participate in a right-wing cesspool have left, so Musk basically wasted his money. Conservatives continue to labor under the delusion that people just have to be awoken to the truth (but not "woke", because that's the opposite thing) and then they'll come around to the right-wing way of thinking.

        Thing is, it doesn't work like that. Most people just find attempts to influence their political views to be annoying, like when you've seen that ad for mushroom coffee for the tenth

        • Re:witch hunt (Score:4, Interesting)

          by Local ID10T ( 790134 ) <ID10T.L.USER@gmail.com> on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:48PM (#65183231) Homepage

          The users who didn't want to participate in a right-wing cesspool have left, so Musk basically wasted his money.

          Oh. No. He got value for his money.

          He drove the left-wing of our political spectrum off of the largest communications platform in the world. He kneecapped them. They are now scattered across dozens of fractured communities with minimal exposure of their ideas to the majority of unaffiliated people. The far right are now free to salute publicly, while the left are forced to hide away in small safe-spaces. He drove the left underground and out of sight. He used his new-found power of the press to normalize the far right, both in the USA and Europe. He shifted the Overton window to the right. Globally. The effects will be felt for generations.

          • They are reforming on bsky pretty quickly, and the independent journalists who were depending on Twitter for reach are now running more of their own sites and sharing content to more networks. What Leon did was definitely effective in its time, but has led journalism to build a better structure. If it survives this administration it will be stronger than before.

            That is however a big if.

          • Musks X was never about appealing to the common person. The common person fled that site when their feeds about their favorite celebrities and cat pictures got replaced with howling assholes screaming at everyone about "white genocide" or whatever innane fucking nonsense the blueticks are ranting about this week. They all left. All thats left is the most toxic echo chamber imaginable.

            It was about radicalizing the conservatives from regular reagan "small goverment" stuff to far right "black people having job

            • by gtall ( 79522 )

              I do not believe people are noticing. At least your basic person in the U.S. seems to believe that Elmo is rooting out corruption. The problem is that la Presidenta and Elmo know that getting a story-line out first is important, any corrections made later or fact checked are lost in the miasma of the follow on bullshit they generate.

              A good example the $8 Billion Elmo recently claimed he saved from a contract that got pulled back. It turns out that the $8 Billion figure was on a gov. web site until it was co

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by rsilvergun ( 571051 )
      Yeah but you know that because of this any right-wing content is going to get promoted and any left-leaning or Democrat leaning content will get demoted. This is what it means to wield power when you have it.

      Because it's not about what the law says it's about what the courts will do when you're in front of a judge. And we have hundreds of completely incompetent and corrupt judges that were put in place specifically to do the bidding of a organization known as the heritage foundation. Up to an including
      • ... what the courts will do ...

        While the 'be a dictator' ruling was an obvious attempt to throw-away the rule-book, obeying the rules, is the point of a judge. The problem is, when a judge upholds the rules, he depends on the government and government does whatever president Trump/king Musk demands. Undoing any rule is simple for government.

        The point of DoGE is is more than blocking the courts: It is the executive arm and the other arms (judicial, legislative) are subsidiaries: Any ruling from a judge must be approved by the execut

    • Until they do away with section 230, it's legal

      It's legal with or without that. In fact, without it, if they don't censor then they'd be even more liable. Your argument is in want of something more akin to the fairness doctrine.

      • It's legal with or without that. In fact, without it, if they don't censor then they'd be even more liable.

        It's true that without it, they would be obligated to police content — but it's often argued by conservatives that the rule should be that you either have to moderate everything or nothing, that you are either a publisher or a platform but can't be both. This argument has been made here ad nauseam. It's always easier to ruin a space than it is to make it someplace people want to be.

        If the rule is that you either have to moderate all the bad things or none of them, then that's a bigger win for the trol

    • Even if they do away with 230 moderation will be protected by the 1A. Section 230 just prevented a bunch of unnecessary litigation to prove that point.

  • So what if they did? (Score:5, Informative)

    by goldspider ( 445116 ) on Thursday February 20, 2025 @03:13PM (#65182755) Homepage

    Platforms can moderate however the hell they want to. The First Amendment gives them that prerogative.

    • by caseih ( 160668 )

      While that is true, governments can pass laws to allow or protect these platforms from being sued over or found responsible for the posts of their users. This is lever that this and previous administrations have used to get companies to censor in a way that the ruling class wishes. The only real difference is the use of doublespeak, calling for censorship of the other points of view while calling it "free speech"---there's no way truth social would let comments criticizing trump stay, especially if they w

    • by machineghost ( 622031 ) on Thursday February 20, 2025 @03:33PM (#65182821)

      Only if the courts determine that the First Amendment trumps (no pun intended) whatever law/concern the government puts forward against it.

      Now you'd think that would make the social networks safe, since our courts are supposed to operate on precedent, and there's a whole lot of first amendment law precedent ... but we have a Supreme Court that has shown it's willing to completely throw out precedent, and literally just make the law up when they feel like it.

      With such a court, none of our constitutional protections are guaranteed.

    • by e3m4n ( 947977 )

      That’s not for you to decide. You’re just gonna have to wait and see how it flushes out with the investigations and the lawsuits. Ultimately, it will be the courts that decide.

      • I agree, the courts these days are more and more off-frequency with the letter of the law. The law (First Amendment as well as Section 230) says it's 100% up to the platform owners.

    • by NaCh0 ( 6124 )

      The First Amendment gives them that prerogative.

      If, as you say, the First Amendment allows companies to say one thing and do another, the Federal Trade Commission wouldn't need to exist.

      I somehow don't think that argument will hold up in court.

      • Correct, false claims are not covered by First Amendment protection.

        I'm not sure what that is supposed to do with the topic at hand or my post about content moderation.

  • Yeah, why can't we inform people about generic Viagra? A lot of people, especially Republicans, need to sere my generic Viagra ads. They can get 50% off if they act now.

    Oh and I know this is a nerds website, but I would like to discuss sports. Let's talk about the NFL.

    • Oh and I know this is a nerds website, but I would like to discuss sports. Let's talk about the NFL.

      For real. Did someone call Andrew Ferguson a lost Redditor once and he never got over it?

    • OMG, Fox needs to stop with the Get It Back Up commercials!

  • This is rich (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Powercntrl ( 458442 ) on Thursday February 20, 2025 @03:28PM (#65182799) Homepage

    Coming from the administration that effectively came up with the idea to deplatform every American user from TikTok. [archives.gov] Then of course, when Trump thought it would help him win the election, he flip-flopped on it. Now of course, if you go on TikTok it immediately recommends a steady diet of right-wing propaganda by default, unless you go in and start fiddling with the content preferences. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

    When they make claims of "censorship", they're just upset that they're not the ones doing it. Musk rather famously tweaked X's algorithm so that content containing certain words and phrases is deprioritized. Can you guess which side of the political spectrum is most likely to be using those words and phrases?

    • Musk also tweaked it so that his posts become more popular. Is he popular, or is it just artificial? Is he a top tier player in PoE2 or is it artificial? Is he a genius or just a scrub that pretends? Is he finding fraud in his illegal search of databases, or is he just lying?

  • I'm constantly amazed by the supposedly "conservative" people to suddenly want to regulate what private companies can do. If you don't like the moderation policies - the answer isn't government intervention, it's to start a competitor.

    Oh wait, they tried with Truth Social etc. Yea, the group of people that want to go there isn't big enough I guess?

    Then they bought Twitter and changed it's policies, but whoops - like half the people left.

    I'm not going to speculate what the reason is - just that it seems like

    • Re: Based on what? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Thursday February 20, 2025 @04:23PM (#65183013) Homepage Journal

      Nothing on earth is less surprising than alleged conservatives being hypocrites.

      Their whole name is horse shit. The only thing they want to conserve is their privilege. Everything else is there to be consumed.

      • The word conservative implies safe and well thought out and measured. But the people who call themselves conservative are actually right-wing extremists. If most people ever actually thought about how radical and extreme the average person calling themselves conservative is They would freak the fuck out about it.

        I know because we're seeing Trump ignoring the law and just doing whatever the fuck he wants and there's a lot of people who voted for him that are quite upset. I'm sure it won't last. TV will t
  • Facebook doesn't have to post what they don't want to. Neither does Twitter, which regularly silences voices critical of Musk.

  • by Ly4 ( 2353328 ) on Thursday February 20, 2025 @03:48PM (#65182887)

    Trump's DOJ is sending letters to members of congress who called Musk a 'dick':
    https://bsky.app/profile/rober... [bsky.app]

  • The 1st amendment doesn't give you a platform for your speech. What it does is protects you from being persecuted by the government for your speech. The rest of us have the right not to listen to your bullshit and can kick you out of our circles. This very may include work if your speech becomes a significantly distraction in the work place.

    So if Meta, etc, want to censor their platform, that's there discretion. It could cause users to migrate to other platforms that they deem more friendly. We see this wit

  • Musk and Trump wants to turn all social media platforms into cesspool like Twitter. When misinformation is everywhere they can claim that nothing can be trusted. They can then push their own misinformation. Putin playbook 101.
  • "FTC action, eh? Meet my million friends. They're all named Jackson. Maybe they'll persuade you that I'm a good Prussi--er, American?"
  • This seems like a complaint for censoring some views, Republican views. But at the same time Trump Signs Order To Deport Foreign Students Who Support Palestinian Freedom [huffingtonpost.co.uk]. 'So it seems to me that All speech is free but some is more free than others' (sorry George).

    • by Rujiel ( 1632063 )
      This type of censorship affects everybody, even Dave Chappelle who was told he can't talk about Gaza in his SNL monologue.
  • Twitter is "deboosting" certain comments. Specifically, anything critical of the government or which questions if people are being manipulated through propaganda.

    Will this be looked into, or will it be washed under the rug like all those Republican requests to censor someone's comment?

  • I'm looking forward to hearing from Bernie Sanders and AOC over there on Truth Social.

  • The U.S. is falling apart under Trump and Musk.
  • by WaffleMonster ( 969671 ) on Thursday February 20, 2025 @06:38PM (#65183347)

    I hate censorship and don't support anyone doing it nor do I think corporations especially large ones with anti-trust concerns get to do as they please cuz 1st amendment. I believe corporate rights should be weighed against competing public interests similar to expressions in Marsh v. AL.

    Musk has tweaked Twitter's algorithms to explicitly boost himself personally and his now far right wing political ideology. I can only presume the FTC has absolutely no interest whatsoever in looking into Musk. The administration has already fired 5 IGs actively investigating Musk's various enterprises.

    The current administration has corruptly and petulantly blacklisted associated press from participating in whitehouse events because they don't agree with the APs style guide in reference to naming of Golf of Mexico. Trump has repeatedly threatened the revocation of broadcast licenses because he doesn't agree with news reporting.

    In the absence of credible reason to believe this would be a consistent non-partisan application of law and not just an excuse for further political bullshit I can't support FTC's efforts even though I think the government has some affirmative role in protecting the free speech interests of the people.

  • So, the right is OK with saying business owners should have the right to deny service to individuals and corporations with whom they clash philosophically, as long as it is related to homosexuality, etc. But you can't deny service to those who promulgate dangerous falsehoods during a national/global emergency. Uh-huh.

  • A neighbor drove his muscle car screaming through the neighborhood. I know who he is but wanted to stay anonymous so I wrote a strongly worded but still polite msg on the ring neighborhood app. Phucking Amazon stopped me from posting that msg. Only then I realized I live in a communist country!

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