USPS Halts All Packages From China, Sending the Ecommerce Industry Into Chaos (wired.com) 302
The United States Postal Service has suspended all package shipments from China and Hong Kong following President Donald Trump's decision to eliminate the de minimis exemption, which previously allowed small packages under $800 to enter the U.S. without import duties. "The move could potentially create chaos and confusion across the online shopping industry, as well as make purchases more expensive for consumers, especially because many global manufacturers and internet sellers are located in China," reports Wired. "Shoppers are now on the hook not only for the additional 10 percent tariff, but also whatever original tax rate their products were exempted from until Tuesday." From the report: Cindy Allen, who has worked in international trade for over 30 years and is the CEO of the consulting firm Trade Force Multiplier, gave WIRED an example of how much additional cost the tariff will incur: A woman's dress made of synthetic fiber shipped from China through de minimis will now be subject to a regular 16 percent tariff, a 7.5 percent Section 301 duty specifically for goods from China, the new 10 percent tariff required by Trump, additional processing fees and customs brokerage fees, and perhaps increased brokering and handling costs due to the sudden change in rules. "Will the dress that was $5 now cost $5.50 or $15?" says Allen. "That we don't know. It depends on how those retailers react and change their business models."
In the immediate term, clearing customs will become a challenge for most ecommerce companies. Their long-term concern, though, is the potential impact on profitability. The appeal of Temu and Shein and similar Chinese ecommerce companies is how affordable their products are. If that changes, the ecommerce landscape and consumer behavior in the US may change significantly as well. While the USPS has announced the suspension of accepting any parcels from China and Hong Kong, CBP hasn't elaborated on how the agency will enforce Trump's new tariffs other than saying in an announcement that it will reject de minimis exemption requests from China starting today.
In the immediate term, clearing customs will become a challenge for most ecommerce companies. Their long-term concern, though, is the potential impact on profitability. The appeal of Temu and Shein and similar Chinese ecommerce companies is how affordable their products are. If that changes, the ecommerce landscape and consumer behavior in the US may change significantly as well. While the USPS has announced the suspension of accepting any parcels from China and Hong Kong, CBP hasn't elaborated on how the agency will enforce Trump's new tariffs other than saying in an announcement that it will reject de minimis exemption requests from China starting today.
Oh great (Score:3)
The pcie riser I have on order from China was supposed to be on the way... Wonder how that will turn out.
Well, no homelab for anybody now!
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Re: Oh great (Score:5, Insightful)
Probably finding a new source for all of the counterfeit and substandard crap. E.g. fuses that allow more current than they're supposed to, connectors that don't crimp right and fall apart, gas sensors that only pretend to work, etc. I mostly stopped buying from Amazon because of that shit, I couldn't care less what happens to them.
Re: Oh great (Score:3)
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What you described is pure capitalism. People voted with their wallets to buy the cheapest items available.
Re: Oh great (Score:4, Informative)
And now, they voted with their ballot to close Chinese loopholes allowing a lot of cheap crap into our country, likely a lot of it would be better manufactured and sold locally.
And...think of the environment, saving all that pollution from shipping cheap disposable crap...?
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In 2024, Trump said "We're a dumping ground. We're like a garbage can for the world".
In 2025, he was busy lighting it on fire.
Re:Oh great (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Oh great (Score:4, Funny)
What's the problem? This will spur a great resurgence in American manufacturing of small low-value electronic components and you'll get your parts, perhaps as soon as 4-10 years from now.
Not to mention more locally-grown food instead of imports. ... :-)
I'm planting avocado trees tomorrow
Re: Oh great (Score:3, Insightful)
Imagine a leader of a country worrying about things in the future and not basing everything he does on the short term immediacy? The horror!
That's not how boomers think at all. This is new and scary and strange!
Re: Oh great (Score:5, Insightful)
Imagine a leader of a country worrying about things in the future and not basing everything he does on the short term immediacy? The horror!
That's not how boomers think at all. This is new and scary and strange!
Aside from the snide generational comment, you're not fundamentally wrong.
That said, future-thinking reveals itself in making plans not just for next decade, but for the transition from now to then. These EOs and tariffs don't exhibit that. There's no time, no room, for either foreign exporters or American importers and manufacturers to adjust. If this was "1% yearly" it would make some sense.
These abrupt activities don't do anything but hurt everyone. Not the least the American citizens.
On the other hand, Americans will have more of their income available to pay for eggs since they can't buy other things from China. That's sort of like the eggs' price went down.
Re: Oh great (Score:5, Interesting)
Yes. But a good leader would at least try not to dump the country into a reign of chaos while transitioning.
Stick with the tariff example...
A "resurgence of American manufacturing" is a good idea. Tariffs can be a part of such a move. But you need to make sure that American industries are able to take over the production of previously imported goods. Otherwise it's just raising prices and thus driving up inflation.
Again, you may be able to sit through that, but only if the inflation wasn't already skyrocketing.
So yes, good leaders would set tariffs. But raising tariffs without the necessary preparation is bad leadership.
And that's Trump. Even the good(*) things he did in his first term made him look like a 5 year old with a tamper tantrum and not like any kind of leader.
(*) well, the not-bad(**) things
(**) or probably the not-as-bad-as-expected things...
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Yes. But a good leader would at least try not to dump the country into a reign of chaos while transitioning.
That's not what he's doing. In a few days the flow of cheap crap from China will resume and something else - like the flow of fentanyl - will stop. Art of the Deal, his book - throw out something outrageous to your opponent so that they'll settle on something that's reasonable.
Trump is not going to take back the Panama Canal or annex Greenland. But he will get a better deal for American shippers and get the U.S. base in Greenland expanded before Putin goes totally off the rails.
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I am sure you can get a far more expensive (but not better) one domestically now. Or maybe not if the market is not interesting enough. But hey, maybe you can import one yourself with just a few $100 in taxes and fees and a few hours of bureaucracy for that $10 card!
ORANGE PIGFUCKER PIECE OF SHIT (Score:3, Insightful)
Hard to believe all these MORON MOGAS votes for this PIECE OF SHIT.
Egg prics - up.
Fuel prices -up
Milk prices - up
FUCK you magas and orange pigfucker supporters.
Re:ORANGE PIGFUCKER PIECE OF SHIT (Score:5, Funny)
But, but, but, you are supposed to be distracted by the onslaught of crazy and lose focus on actual results
Wait! Are you not watching your required quota of Fox News?
This WILL be reported
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It's funny. It's not like there's a tube maker here. It just means I am paying extra to a guy who ordered them from aliexpress before I did.
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egg prices are up because of the bird flu and chickens being euthanized, not because of orange man.
Re:ORANGE PIGFUCKER PIECE OF SHIT (Score:5, Insightful)
And the best way to decrease egg prices is to end bird flu, which you can't do by hiding all of the health reports and banning testing, like the orange man wants.
Hiding health reports? (Score:2)
Do you have a source for that claim? It seems out of character for someone that appointed a person so dedicated to food health and safety as Secretary of HHS. BTW, I heard RFK Jr. was confirmed by the Senate today. I suspect he'll be sworn in before the end of the week, after that we could see a change on what the "bad orange man bad" wants. RFK Jr. was picked for a reason, he and Trump get along on "making America healthy again". I know Trump and RFK Jr. don't agree on energy but there's a new Secreta
Re:Hiding health reports? (Score:5, Informative)
The Trump administration has intervened in the release of important studies on the bird flu, as an outbreak escalates across the United States.
One of the studies would reveal whether veterinarians who treat cattle have been unknowingly infected by the bird flu virus. Another report documents cases in which people carrying the virus might have infected their pet cats.
The studies were slated to appear in the official journal of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. The distinguished journal has been published without interruption since 1952.
Its scientific reports have been swept up in an “immediate pause” on communications by federal health agencies ordered by Dorothy Fink, the acting secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services. Fink’s memo covers “any document intended for publication,” she wrote, “until it has been reviewed and approved by a presidential appointee.” It was sent on President Donald Trump’s first full day in office.
That’s concerning, former CDC officials said, because a firewall has long existed between the agency’s scientific reports and political appointees.
“MMWR is the voice of science,” said Tom Frieden, a former CDC director and the CEO of the nonprofit organization Resolve to Save Lives.
“This idea that science cannot continue until there’s a political lens over it is unprecedented,” said Anne Schuchat, a former principal deputy director at the CDC. “I hope it’s going to be very short-lived, but if it’s not short-lived, it’s censorship.”
White House officials meddled with scientific studies on covid-19 during the first Trump administration, according to interviews and emails collected in a 2022 report from congressional investigators. Still, the MMWR came out as scheduled.
“What’s happening now is quite different than what we experienced in covid, because there wasn’t a stop in the MMWR and other scientific manuscripts,” Schuchat said.
Neither the White House nor HHS officials responded to requests for comment. ...
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/30... [cnn.com]
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Trolls aside it actually is orange man (Score:5, Insightful)
Regulations are written in blood. You can't just start slashing them and then pack the courts full of pro-corporate sycophants and not have consequences. But those consequences take a while to hit and since the media is controlled by billionaires it's easy to shift to blame around and confuse the issue
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People often use "court packing" to describe changes to the size of the Supreme Court, but it's better understood as any effort to manipulate the Court's membership for partisan ends. A political party that's engaged in court packing will usually violate norms that govern who is appointed (e.g., only appoint jurists who respect precedent) and how the appointment process works (e.g., no appointments during a presidential election).
So turns out that you were wrong, how odd...
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egg prices are up because of the bird flu and chickens being euthanized, not because of orange man.
Nah, according to Trump it's his own fault. According to him it was Biden's fault they went up, then it must be Trump's fault they went up further.
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egg prices are up because of the bird flu and chickens being euthanized, not because of orange man.
The notion x was president therefore everything good or bad that happens is because of the president is obviously absurd. Most of what happens has little to nothing to do with whoever is in office.
Having said that this is Trumps metric. He was prolific in hanging this kind of shit on others so I see no reason why egg prices or anything else that goes sideways should not be hung on him.
In the case of eggs there is even a coherent argument for blaming Trump. Dozens of countries are currently vaccinating th
Don't blame Melania (Score:2)
Melania is the ORANGE PIGFUCKER.
Porky is also full of shit; also literally. I bet it does take him 12 flushes as he says... and it's reported the plumber was constantly busy at the whitehouse.
Seriously, did nobody realize that is most likely because he's flushing his diapers? And look how he stands and walks sometimes. Plus the baggy suits. The only odd part is how he's been doing that for decades... but his personal doc was a specialist... can you guess in what? (go look. lol.)
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As not a complete moron I knew I would be getting fucked by massive price increases (among endless other ways), but there is some tiny satisfaction in you evil and/or idiotic jackasses who voted for that fucking orange rapist deranged senile moron currently calling himself President being surprised by just how badly you're getting fucked too. Buckle up you conservative pieces of shit, your life is going to keep getting worse, and it's your own god damn fucking fault. Democrats aren't perfect and do
Price rises not down to Trump (Score:2)
Hard to believe all these MORON MOGAS votes for this PIECE OF SHIT.
No, no, you have it wrong. These price rises are down to the liberal elite, the wokerati and communist, fascist countries like Denmark that the US should just take over.
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Ah, the sweet sound of Maggots signing up for the Gaza Strip Expeditionary Force to forcibly remove the Palestinians from the Gaza Strip and replace them with Israeli religious freaks. Shortly, la Presidenta promises to make a major announcement on annexing the West Bank.
This will create a homeland for the Evangelicals in the U.S., surely they will sign up to move to their new haven, all in preparation for Jesus to return:
The Scene: the rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem....the clouds roil, the trumpets blare, and
Re: ORANGE PIGFUCKER PIECE OF SHIT (Score:3)
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The birds will just climb over it with ladders. Walls never work!
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SE United States. Our gas went down about $.30 over the weekend, and it's staying there (for now).
Re:Don't piss off the farmers. (Score:5, Insightful)
Wait... what? (Score:3, Insightful)
You mean the entire world and EVERYBODY on it is dependent on each other?
Crazy, just crazy, it is like the whole world has been integrating for the past 80 years, and the trumptardians are going to change it on their say-so
What is next? Drag their throne to the beach and decree that the tide won't come in
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Most of the world has 25-100% tariffs on all imports from countries that are not close strategic allies.
Try shipping American fashion products to China and see what tariffs you pay...
Show Pitch: Surprise Shipping Container (Score:3)
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Who wants to... okay I'll tell him Container Wars (2013-) [imdb.com]
Got my Aliexpress shopping done early (Score:2)
I flooded Aliexpress with orders for the past three months, ordering all the small shit I could think of. Got me lots of crap. I was too late on the Chinese vacuum tubes, though. I'll have to pay the US markup from a reseller.
Urgh (Score:5, Informative)
Almost none of the things I've ordered from Aliexpress et al over the last few months was available via an American manufacturer. And they were too obscure to be anything an American supplier would be interested in importing (HDMI EDID simulators?)
This is going to suck especially for anyone waiting for spare parts to come in.
Yes, the supply of cheap sprocket sets is at an end, but so is a lot of the stuff that only comes from China after the same Republican party that's gung ho about tariffs and destroying imports today destroyed our manufacturing industry in the 1980s, encouraging businesses to off shore manufacturing and celebrating the resultant destruction of unions as a result.
I am genuinely worried with this level of malignant mismanagement we'll be looking at food shortages by the end of the year. And Trump's supporters are so tribal they'll respond to this claiming I'm an alarmist, and then justify it as "necessary" when it happens, because nobody is willing to admit Trump's a problem who has any influence over the bastard.
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stop calling it a tarriff, because maga folks have a hard on for that word. Call it what it really is, an import tax.
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Re: Urgh (Score:2)
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stop calling it a tarriff, because maga folks have a hard on for that word. Call it what it really is, an import tax.
Indeed, elsewhere in the anglosphere we call them duties, but it's essentially just a different word for tax.
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Funny enough you will still be able to buy all those things. They may just stop being priced at fantasy rates. Many countries have removed their exceptions on import duties for small packages. What it reduced was the senseless spending on commodity rubbish (seriously that $5 dress in TFS is no joke, look at the likes of Shein and what they are flooding western streets with feces tier clothing often worn once and thrown away).
Yeah every time I read a hackaday article talking about hacking a $2 Xaiomi thermos
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For the nerds: counts against your laptop (Score:2)
If you order a new laptop from, say, Lenovo, it drop-ships from China.
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Your Lenovo laptop probably wasn't under $800 so it wouldn't be under de minimus. No change, except for the new taxes.
But the average de minimus package is ~$40 and there are a LOT of them. The point of de minimus is to not tie up customs with insignificant shit. The US has traditionally been a big proponent, bullying other countries into raising their exception limits. But now slamming it to zero... that's going to be some nice chaos.
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How long til it drop ships from Vietnam instead?
End the postal exemption... (Score:2, Insightful)
If Trump really wants to go after China he should end the special rules under the international postal agreements that make shipping stuff from China to the US so cheap.
Re:End the postal exemption... (Score:4, Informative)
https://www.supplychaindive.co... [supplychaindive.com]
Raising rates did allow USPS to start making money on those packages, though it also slashed volume by more than 50%, also due to Covid.
https://www.gao.gov/products/g... [gao.gov]
So, mission accomplished, I guess.
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What trump just did is eliminated the exemption whereby things coming into the US that are below a certain value can come in without having to pay customs and duty and other fees.
Good job Trump voters (Score:4, Insightful)
For fuck sakes get over your goddamn pride and admit that you fucked up so we can try to fix this shit. I know some of you think because you're old and retired you're untouchable and maybe you are. Right up until they stop paying for your pills. As for the rest of you when this bullshit costs you your job at 50 and you're completely unemployable what the hell do you think is going to happen?
You are in the fuck around and find out stage. If you start panicking a little maybe just maybe your other elected representatives who still think they need your votes might move to put the brakes on the worst of this shit long enough for people like me to clean up after your mess
Re:Good job Trump voters (Score:5, Informative)
There's around 245 million people legally allowed to vote in the USA. Of those, 77284118 voted for Trump. That's 31.5%. Harris got 30%. In no way did either get a majority. In no way did Trump get an overwhelming amount of votes. There are around 340 million US citizens, so by your claim Trump only had support from 22.7% of US citizens. If he had been honest about wanting to invade Greenland and turn Gaza into a luxury resort, that number would have been lower. Please, stop repeating bullshit you hear on TV. It just makes you look stupid and degrades the quality of this site.
Citations:
https://www.usnews.com/news/na... [usnews.com]
https://www.cfr.org/article/20... [cfr.org]
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Being eligible to vote and not doing so is basically casting an "i dont care either way" vote.
If the more than 30% of people eligible to vote who didn't bother had voted against trump he'd never have won,
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Being eligible to vote and not doing so is basically casting an "i dont care either way" vote. If the more than 30% of people eligible to vote who didn't bother had voted against trump he'd never have won,
Not wanting to support Trump doesn't mean wanting to support Harris.
In general, majoritary systems will often lead to a party obtaining a disproportionate amount of power compared to the actual support they have in the population. The US President election is a "winner takes it all" deal which will always lead to this disproportion.
Re:Good job Trump voters (Score:5, Insightful)
Not wanting to support Trump doesn't mean wanting to support Harris.
In a two party system you have to support harris if you don't want trump to win. Many people do exactly that and vote for who they consider to be the lesser of two evils.
If you consider trump and harris equally bad then you don't care which of them wins and don't vote.
Don't call it 2 party (Score:3)
The problem is winner-take-all. Winner take all voting inevitably creates a two-party system. Because if either of The two major coalition parties separates into third parties and whichever one didn't do that wins every election
National sales tax (Score:5, Interesting)
Take a look at your tax bill from last year. Now double it.
That's the Donald Trump tax plan.
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Take a look at your tax bill from last year. Now double it. That's the Donald Trump tax plan.
Trump's plan is to hide that tax increase. Your tax bill would be the same or even lower, but you would be indirectly taxed through tariffs which would make the products you buy more expensive. Part to the higher price would cover the tariffs and would effectively be an indirect tax.
Dresses for $5 shouldn't exist at all. (Score:5, Insightful)
Dresses for $5 shouldn't exist at all. That is in practice a one-usage-dress. Buy quality instead, not dresses made of plastic ("synthetic fiber").
Don't wear a dress at all then (Score:3, Funny)
Exactly the statement that Kayne was making.
They've existed for decades (Score:5, Insightful)
Outside of a few people who can afford extremely expensive tailored clothing everything we buy is made in sweat shops by slave labor. There used to be a website that would tell you who made your stuff. Years ago I remember looking up a soccer ball I bought my kid and finding it was made by a kid about the same age as mine.
The point is cutting out middlemen is all that happened here and all that's happening now is a new tax is being imposed by Republican so that they can offset tax cuts for their buddies and themselves.
You'll have the exact same $4 dress but you'll pay $80 for it with 76 of it collected by the government so that Trump doesn't have to pay even the relatively small percentage of taxes he's paying now.
He's reaching into your pocket and picking it and you're letting him do it for whatever God awful reason
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Dresses for $5 shouldn't exist at all. That is in practice a one-usage-dress. Buy quality instead, not dresses made of plastic ("synthetic fiber").
Fashion being as fleeting as a GenZ attention span, has FAR more to do with that problem. And by fashion I mean women.
If only men made clothing, it would be crafted from a self-wicking Under Armour cottonhemp blend designed to be washed once a month, and last 100 years because a century from now no man will care if it still only comes in brown or black.
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Find a $50 dress on Amazon and buy the same thing on AliExpress for $5. You are paying for a massive mark up, not for better quality.
That's why they hate AliExpress, it cuts out one of the middle men and gives people access to much better prices. It's not just that people buy that stuff from AliExpress instead of Amazon, it's that it has recalibrated their sense of what things are worth, and made them aware that most of the crap they see in the shops is just some Chinese OEM with a logo silkscreened onto it
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Transmissions would not likely fall under the line set for de minimis exemption.
For those that missed it, that's a joke. Try to laugh. Or at least smirk. Roll your eyes maybe?
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For about 3.5 billion people in the world, it's also a bit high [worldbank.org]
The real issue (Score:5, Interesting)
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And the cost of the paperwork. I'm feeling the effects of Brexit on importing something that was only available in the UK to Spain: I got a customs bill yesterday for 1.51 EUR in duty and 31.25 EUR in admin fees for stopping the package and charging me the duty.
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The rest of the world abolished this exception and is doing just fine. The only problem with the customs office right now is the usual Trump bullshit of shooting from the hip. When they got rid of such exceptions in my country they did it with 1 years notice, and packages seem to arrive just as fast as they did in the past, though they do cost a bit more.
But hey if that means one brain damaged moron less spends $5 on a wear once item of disposable rubbish tier clothing then I'm all for it. Maybe products fr
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For Europe, AliExpress charges sales tax at the checkout and pays it to the destination country. So no paperwork, sails through customs. Typically stuff arrives about a week after you order it.
If the US wants the same thing then all they need to do is ask. No need for this nonsense.
So this is what it's going to be like? (Score:2)
Another round of Calvinball every day for the next four years?
Hey China (Score:3)
If you really want piss the US off, stop with the currency manipulation. Trump has already started threatening BRICS if they use their own currency(ies) within their own clique, what if you called his bluff?
Price everything in Yuan or euros instead of $US and my ordering of stuff from your country won't be more expensive when the USD to AUD exchange rate changes.
(Sure, I'm an Aussie who is sick of the Canberra sycophancy but after Scott Morrison cluelessly trashed our relationship with China when Mr Trump was last in office, we owe America no favours.)
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(Sure, I'm an Aussie who is sick of the Canberra sycophancy but after Scott Morrison cluelessly trashed our relationship with China when Mr Trump was last in office, we owe America no favours.)
Thanks to AUKUS, Australia owes the USA $368 billion dollars.
Imagine if that money were spent domestically on schools or hospitals or railways or affordable housing.
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(Sure, I'm an Aussie who is sick of the Canberra sycophancy but after Scott Morrison cluelessly trashed our relationship with China when Mr Trump was last in office, we owe America no favours.)
Thanks to AUKUS, Australia owes the USA $368 billion dollars.
Imagine if that money were spent domestically on schools or hospitals or railways or affordable housing.
Australia doesn't "owe the USA" the full cost of AUKUS. The figure you cite includes the cost of building out the Australian supply chains and shipbuilding capacity to build the subs (in Adelaide), and then the funding for the Australian navy to operate them through the 2050s. I'll let the Australians decide if that's the most useful form of domestic investment, but they're definitely not writing a check for a quarter $TRN and sending it to the US Treasury.
Re:Hey China (Score:5, Interesting)
A lot of people are trying to disengage with the US. Replace US payments systems, move cloud data out of the US, switch to non-US software. Unfortunately the US is no longer reliable, and does not uphold the rule of law.
It's sad but it's what they voted for. Here's a handy website to get you started: https://european-alternatives.... [european-alternatives.eu]
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That transition already happened long before Trump was president, so it really hasn't got anything to do with Trump.
Let's face it, Trump is merely trying to protect the US itself, like many other countries already do. The bigger problem is actually every single country doing its own thing, having its own laws and government. We really need to start moving away from that to one law/one economy/one government for the whole world. We need to put more effort in making 'third world' countries safer and invest in
Rest of world... (Score:3)
Australian and New Zealand eliminated their de minimis equivalents for large overseas retailers some years ago. What they did was reach an agreement with the big resellers, AliExpress, Temu, etc that they would charge the very simple GST at order time. Then remit the tax to the government much like onshore companies. There was an exemption for small/occasional shipping companies (like those that couldn't even find New Zealand on a map but ship there because they're shipping provider can), this levelled the playing field a little between the local companies and the mass shippers. But didn't result in any extraordinary distortion of the market. However, those were planned and executed in an orderly fashion, and were feeding into far far simpler tax systems that didn't require multiple rates for different kinds of goods.
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Most of the stock in those bricks and mortar stores will have been imported from china too.
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You're confusing manufacturing base with commerce. They are two wildly different things, and *both* governments have destroyed it equally by signing free trade agreements with countries that don't have a levelised cost of production.
Return to yesteryear (Score:5, Interesting)
Back in ancient times, like the 1970's, there were companies specializing in "import/export", mostly the import for China->US trade in trinkets, and low end electronics. These companies were put out of business by direct ship to consumer. Their value add was paperwork, warehousing and for the better shops ... some quality control (they actually vetted the supplier, rather than playing Russian roulette with some mostly anonymous figures on the China side.
Going from direct back to intermediaries is going to be disruptive and will cost more. But it wouldn't be the end of the world, and we might have a lot less waste, and perhaps energy savings (surely shipping by the pallet by boat is more efficient than packaging each item in plastic and sending by air mail.
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These companies were put out of business by direct ship to consumer. Their value add was paperwork, warehousing and for the better shops ... some quality control (they actually vetted the supplier, rather than playing Russian roulette with some mostly anonymous figures on the China side.
Some of them still exist. RS's entire RS Pro brand is basically what you said. It's vetted generic stuff with a markup for the vetting work, CE cert and warehousing. Works for me, I use tons of RS pro stuff.
NOW it's gonna be normal / EU-like (Score:3)
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It's not gonna be EU-like, because the EU has created the Import One Stop Shop (IOSS) before removing that exemption. https://vat-one-stop-shop.ec.e... [europa.eu]
This means that the tax is already paid and the package declared when it reaches customs, so it's actually faster than when there was an exemption.
Trump is waging war against US (Score:2, Redundant)
He is a traitor actively trying to destroy this country.
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I'm not saying he's right, but if you are just being realistic, this all is done to keep as much money inside the borders of the USA. The naive idea is that companies will move the production back to the US and therefore create new jobs and prosperity for US citizens. In basic the idea is a good idea, but in reality this is probably just not gonna work as the tarifs have to be much higher for companies to move the production (back) to the US, but also the larger problem is, you just can't stamp out a new fa
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You're a retard.
The traitor talking about ruining the economies of our allies (e.g. Canada) so that we can invade and annex them is a retard. The traitor who stopped funding prisons housing tens of thousands of ISIS fighters is a retard. The traitor who is intentionally systematically attempting to damage our institutions by encouraging everyone to resign including all employees of the CIA is a retard. The idiot who wants to make motherfucking Gaza a US territory and send US troops to motherfucking Gaza is a retard. Th
ORANGE PIGFUCKER SCREWS VOTERS (Score:2)
Fix the haedline for you. Everything else is just repetitive.
This is not the first, and this is not the last. When you re-elect The Orange Pigfucker you get what you get, not what he said.
Eggs: $12.99/doz.
Fuel: $4+/gal
Market: down 5%
What's next? Vote Orange Pigfucker and find out. Whining on /. doesn't change priing.
$800 was never "de minimus" (Score:2)
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Yeah but we are, supposed to, pay GST at least through the bigger Chinese ecommerce sites even if they offer 'free' shipping.
Any duties should be paid at online checkout, not stopped at the physical border after it has travelled from Asia.
Re:my flow! my flow! (Score:5, Informative)
yes some quality things are made in china, but that's small percent.
I will agree there are a lot of knock off goods, but China is a major global manufacturer for many name brand goods. It's not just a small percent that are of quality.
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This is for small packages. Massive logistics for major brands are not "small packages under 800USD" unless they were specifically dodging the existing taxation and tariff regime by breaking things into "less than 800USD" packages, or misreporting the actual value.
Granted, both are common in Chinese commerce.
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Hey AC, the cost of import isn't applied to the product it's applied to the shipment. Yes a brand would never import from China one package at a time. They would import an shipping container worth 10s of thousands even for their cheapest product. No brand name product in America is affected by this.
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How many stamps do you have to put on a shipping container to send it with the US Postal Service?
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Brand names are unaffected. They import in bulk and *never* (I don't normally talk in absolutes, but here it is warranted) fall under the $800 limit in the first place. Additionally brand names are more expensive an as such the duties have a far smaller impact on their cost even if they were under $800 somehow.
Re:my flow! my flow! (Score:4, Informative)
Which happens to actually not be true. There are quite a few quality products coming out from China these days. You can also get cheap crap, but from my experience on Aliexpress, that is rare if you have a bit of a clue. And that is already very generously priced in by the massive savings compared to buying the same things domestically.
Re:my flow! my flow! (Score:5, Interesting)
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This won't affect quality things from China. The price of those will rise insignificantly compared to the cheap crap which is suddenly exposed to fixed price handling costs.
Re: Inconveniencing the innocent (Score:2)
https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/rsddp-rlddp/index.html
Here is an article that helps explain it better (and also links to the government so you can see it in writing): https://globalnews.ca/news/9503434/self-defence-canada-laws-milton-home-invasion/
And want to buy a folding knife, they are available everywhere, legally. Here are some at the Canadian shop House of Knives:
https://house