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Italian Authorities Shut Down $3.2 Billion-a-Year Pirate TV, Streaming Ring (ft.com) 25

A piracy ring that gave 22 million subscribers in Europe cheap access to content stolen from international streaming services has been shut down by Italian authorities after a two-year investigation. From a report: The criminal enterprise used a complex international IT system to "capture and resell" live programming and other on-demand content from companies including sports broadcaster DAZN, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Paramount, Sky and Disney+, prosecutors said in a statement on Wednesday.

Authorities estimate the operation generated revenues of roughly $264.3 million a month [non-paywalled link], or $3.2 billion a year, and caused combined damages of more than $10.6 billion to the affected broadcast companies. "The rate of profit you get from these illegal activities with lower risk is equivalent to that of cocaine trafficking," Francesco Curcio, the criminal prosecutor who led the investigation, told reporters.

Italian Authorities Shut Down $3.2 Billion-a-Year Pirate TV, Streaming Ring

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  • by hdyoung ( 5182939 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2024 @11:58AM (#64975847)
    6 billion dollars of revenue the streaming industry lost because they refused to lower their prices down to a level that the local market would bear. It’s not like their costs increase all that much if they stream the same netflix show 4.1 billion times instead of 4 billion times. Eyeroll.

    This is money the streaming services just left sitting on the table for someone else to come and pick up. What a business fail.
    • Re: (Score:1, Troll)

      False. It's because people believe they are entitled to whatever they want. If you don't like the price, don't buy it/watch it/whatever.

      • by mysidia ( 191772 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2024 @12:30PM (#64975915)

        Actually true it's an access issue. The real question is Why the authorities are wasting taxpayer money pursuing these criminals and Not the criminals at the Studios/Streaming companies who have created an Anti-consumer distribution monopoly where Particular videos are tied to a particular streaming service and other streaming services can't offer them.

        • by waspleg ( 316038 )

          I don't know about Italy. In the US the answer is legal bribes in the form of 'lobbyists'.

        • Actually true it's an access issue. The real question is Why the authorities are wasting taxpayer money pursuing these criminals

          The authorities collect taxes from people paying for streaming from legit streaming companies, and on the profits of the streaming companies themselves [euronews.com].

          It's not a waste of taxpayer money to go after those evading taxes.

      • by GrahamJ ( 241784 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2024 @12:53PM (#64975959)

        It’s not false, you’re both right. Because a lot of people have no problem with pirating the services need to temper their pricing accordingly. If it’s too high people will pirate, that’s just the way it is regardless of what you think of it.

        In that sense piracy is a good thing as it helps keep prices in check.

      • by MeNeXT ( 200840 )

        Or people got tired of being fooled into buying something that was no longer available at the whim of the company.

      • False. It's because people believe they are entitled to whatever they want. If you don't like the price, don't buy it/watch it/whatever.

        22 thousand people, can be called arrogant thieves who feel they are entitled to whatever they want.

        22 million? That’s called a customer base. One any legitimate company would be jealous to have. Parent is right.

        • To add to this, somet of those 22 million probably had no legal access at all to some of the content. That's a service fail, not entitlement.

          There's also an argument to be made that piracy is a form of protest. Art and entertainment are a necessary part of the human experience. Producers definitely deserve compensation and accolades; those that "manage" access deserve some too but hardly all they're scraping now.

      • It's actually false because not all of those people would have paid to stream from those services. The claim that they lost x billion dollars in sales due to privacy is always bullshit, and only idiots ever believe them.

        • Among consumers, only the uninformed believe those claims. Among authorities, they are not idiots. It serves them well to believe the numbers. What's the quote? It's really hard to convince someone of something when their livlihood depends on their not believing it.

  • Means they've been paying $150/year each for access. Which is on a par with most streaming services.

    Why do I doubt these numbers?

    • by Targon ( 17348 )

      If most services cost $8-13 per month EACH, paying $150/year for EVERYTHING isn't a bad deal. You may be correct that the numbers feel off, or the subscription cost for the service is different based on what you "sign up for".

    • No way pirates would pay that much when they could have just subscribed to all these services.
    • In Italy the "Serie A" (soccer championship, aka the only sport people here would pay for) is only provided by DAZN, and they raised their prices in the past couple of years effectively more than doubling them. It now costs 45 EUR/month so yes 150$/year is much lower than that. So the issue IS the nonsense price. I personally cancelled by subscription and gave up on watching Serie A, others decided to go for piracy even if that meant paying ~10 EUR/month, that is what a reasonable streaming service is exp
      • by taustin ( 171655 )

        I seriously doubt 22 million people subscribed to a pirate service just to get "Serie A". Or that anywhere near a majority of 22 million people could even tell you what it is.

        Your personal experience does not define a universal truth, and the plural of anecdote isn't data.

  • by NewtonsLaw ( 409638 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2024 @12:44PM (#64975937)

    Did you watch the multi-million dollar Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson boxing match on Netflix?

    That's the real crime -- all hype, no delivery.

    If streaming services want our money they need to lift their game.

    • by narcc ( 412956 )

      No. Why would anyone? Tyson retired almost 20 years ago. Paul is a punk playing pretend pugilist. Who's he going to "fight" next? The ghost of Joe Frazier? What a joke.

      all hype, no delivery.

      What did you expect? Paul is just an attention whore pretending to be a boxer. You'll find a better fight in any random schoolyard. Stop paying attention to him and he'll go away.

    • Mike Tyson fight sounds like a perfect distraction for Catholics whining about Pope's hysterectomy in Conclave, lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
    • I did not know about it till the day of the fight when my neighbor mentioned it. I asked who Jake Paul was, expecting him to be another elderly retired boxer, but no, it was even more inane than that.

      The scary thing is we don't even seem near reaching peak stupid yet.
  • Sports Fans (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Jason Earl ( 1894 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2024 @01:50PM (#64976093) Homepage Journal

    One of the things that the television industry has learned in the last few years is that live sports programming really moves the needle when it comes to subscriptions. Apple has spent over $20 billion since 2019 creating Hollywood style programming. Most critics and fans agree that they even have some really good stuff. However, they don't have anywhere near the impact viewership wise as Amazon's $1 billion a year investment in Thursday Night Football. It's not even close. Thursday Night Football is the worst football possible, and it still gets nearly as many viewers each week as Apple TV has subscribers. I actually suspect that, assuming that Apple continues to try and compete with their Apple TV service, that they will simply start outbidding their competitors for access to sporting events. They definitely have the money.

    For whatever reason, sports fans are compelled to subscribe to whatever services they need in order to watch their favorite teams. Serial programming, even ridiculously popular serial programming, simply doesn't have that kind of draw. Even better, at least for streaming platforms, there is no way to binge watch sports seasons. No sports fans are willing to wait until the end of the season and binge watch the whole season in a month. So instead of people that sign up for a month once a year to watch whatever new stuff you have, you end up with customers that sign up for at least a sports season. If they are fans of several sports, and you have a lot of sports to offer, then you probably end up with a customer that is willing to stay signed up year round.

    Which is why anyone in the content business, and that includes many governments, is paying attention to illegal sports streaming. The Italian government cares about this, because RAI is owned by the government and sports programming pays the bills for all of the other programming. No one gives a crap about most of their other programming, but Italians are definitely willing to pay to watch Football (soccer). Of course, Italians aren't idiots. The illegal sports streamers are actually better than the competition. Not only do they always work, but they also have all of the games that you want. You pay one fee, and you get access to all of the games you want, and you don't have subsidize all of the other television that sports fans have been supporting since the dawn of television. The Italian government probably wouldn't get involved, but in this case they are the competition, and they need a way to pay for all of the other programming that they currently make.

    Even if you are not a sports fan this sort of stuff matters. Chances are good that at least a portion of the programming that you actually care about is funded by sports programming.

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