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Dow Jones and New York Post Sue AI Startup Perplexity, Alleging 'Massive' Copyright Infringement (variety.com) 12

News Corp's Dow Jones & Co., publisher of the Wall Street Journal, and the New York Post have sued Perplexity, a startup that calls itself an "AI-powered Swiss Army Knife for information discovery and curiosity," alleging copyright infringement. From a report: "Perplexity is a generative artificial intelligence company that claims to provide its users accurate and up-to-date news and information in a platform that, in Perplexity's own words, allows users to 'Skip the Links' to original publishers' websites," the companies said in the federal lawsuit, filed Monday. "Perplexity attempts to accomplish this by engaging in a massive amount of illegal copying of publishers' copyrighted works and diverting customers and critical revenues away from those copyright holders. This suit is brought by news publishers who seek redress for Perplexity's brazen scheme to compete for readers while simultaneously freeriding on the valuable content the publishers produce."
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Dow Jones and New York Post Sue AI Startup Perplexity, Alleging 'Massive' Copyright Infringement

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  • by laughingskeptic ( 1004414 ) on Monday October 21, 2024 @01:27PM (#64881749)
    The text output of Perplexity is created by sending search result links to ChatGPT for summation. Perplexity is just the conductor of the orchestra. The tubas may be playing some newspaper's tune, but the output of the tubas was created by ChatGPT.

    This lawsuit also seems wrong for another reason -- The reason I use Perplexity is because it provides the links and I do check the sources. So winding up as one of the authoritative sources for Perplexity leads to link-following -- they are arguing the opposite of this.
    • by m00sh ( 2538182 ) on Monday October 21, 2024 @03:40PM (#64882271)

      They use their own LLM that is fine-tuned from Llama.

      Paid subscribers have the option to use GPT4o for the text generation part from the sources.

      ChatGPT model is not a publicly APIed model. Only OpenAI can use the model behind ChatGPT.

      • The ChatGPT model is publicly available as an API. GPT4o is the default model that ChatGPT uses, and it has been available as an API via OpenAI or via Azure OpenAI for some time.
  • by laughingskeptic ( 1004414 ) on Monday October 21, 2024 @01:38PM (#64881795)
  • They just want to be able to keep making money on old information instead of going out and creating new content. But I wonder if what they are really worried about is an AI pulling back the curtain and revealing to the world how much of their content is bullshit.

    • And forcing libraries to repetitively purchase expensive expiring licenses to ebooks encumbered with DRM rather than a physical book that lasts almost forever.
  • With Google being forced (by governments) to pay for using headlines and links to news sites in some countries, it's only a matter of time before it applies AI to the task of reading, summarizing and personalizing all the news for its users.

    Since nobody knows more about YOU than Google, it will use AI to create a news page that is highly relevant to your interests and needs. It will do so without copying verbatim from the online news sources it crawls and thus it will not infringe copyright.

    Once this happe

  • Machine processing of copyrighted material is probably perfectly legal so long as it isn't stored or reproduced verbatim.

    Publishers are afraid their monopolies will be threatened should AI be able to generate similar works or be able to summarize them well enough.

    And the technophobes just don't want any progress at all.

    Too bad, so sad... your precious works aren't being harmed by the simple act of reading, be it by humans or by machines.
    • Actually, it's perfectly legal to store or reproduce _portions_ of copyrighted material so long as you provide reference to the source, which is exactly what Perplexity does and why I like it.

      If Perplexity were providing users a verbatim copy of a full document/book/etc, that would be a problem, but it isn't.

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