Malaysia's Plan To Block Overseas DNS Dies After a Day (theregister.com) 30
Malaysia's telecom regulator has abandoned a plan to block overseas DNS services a day after announcing it, following a sharp backlash and accusations of government overreach. From a report: Last Friday, the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) published an FAQ that stated it had instructed all ISPs to redirect traffic headed for offshore DNS servers to services operated by Malaysian ISPs -- a move it claimed would prevent access to malicious and harmful websites such as those concerning gambling, pornography, copyright infringement or scams. "No, the DNS redirection will not affect your connection speed or browsing experience for legitimate websites," the Commission promised in its FAQ.
But opposition to the plan quickly emerged, on grounds that it could amount to censorship and therefore represented government overreach. Musician turned state legislator Syed Ahmad Syed Abdul Rahman Alhadad labelled the decision "draconian" and a negative for Malaysia's digital economy. Fellow state assemblyperson Lim Yi Wei described the policy as "ill-advised," censorship, inefficient, and unsecure -- as well as counterproductive to government efforts to develop tech startups, innovation and datacenters.
But opposition to the plan quickly emerged, on grounds that it could amount to censorship and therefore represented government overreach. Musician turned state legislator Syed Ahmad Syed Abdul Rahman Alhadad labelled the decision "draconian" and a negative for Malaysia's digital economy. Fellow state assemblyperson Lim Yi Wei described the policy as "ill-advised," censorship, inefficient, and unsecure -- as well as counterproductive to government efforts to develop tech startups, innovation and datacenters.
Hold on (Score:2)
Let them do it.
Please.
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Let them do it.
Please.
Yes. This. We need some IT Crowd grade humo(u)r in our boring lives.
(Gov DNS lackey) “No Sir, it doesn’t appear to be a DDoS attack, just an entire countries worth of queries you assumed about..”
Re:Hold on (Score:5, Informative)
I don't know what you guys expect, but most people already use exactly the servers that the government wants them to use, the ones assigned by the ISPs' DHCP/PPPoE servers. More applications and mobile devices have started to use resolvers provided by Silicon Valley industry heavy-weights, but using your ISP's resolvers was not unusual and they can handle the load, easily. Malaysia didn't ask for the world's DNS traffic, just that DNS queries by an ISP's clients would be redirected to the ISP's servers if the queries were addressed to leave the country. In network parlance this is called transparent proxying, and it's particularly easy with DNS because the protocol is stateless. It doesn't generally break DNSSEC either, just in the event of manipulated responses.
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I don't know what you guys expect..It doesn't generally break DNSSEC either, just in the event of manipulated responses.
Really? You should ask about the number of manipulated responses before assuming it’s no big deal.
We all know why DNSSEC is needed. All of it. Now ask why it hasn’t happened.
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Resolvers cache responses. Put the manipulated results in the cache and prevent them from aging out and you're done. All the lookup code is already there and doesn't take any extra time. One can trivially bypass DNS redirection with DoH and other techniques, but that's not what you were getting at. If your argument is based on "it's infeasible", one easy proof by doing it is enough to disarm you.
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You know.. 8.8.8.8 is what I decide it is if I own the routers you are using, right?
Information wants to be free (Score:2)
But a society has to consider restricting freedom if it is in the best interests of the population.
Mandatory national DNS is probably not the worst idea in the world in theory, but in practice I suspect it would do more harm than good if it were actually enforceable.
Re:Information wants to be free (Score:5, Insightful)
Mandatory national DNS is probably not the worst idea in the world in theory, but in practice I suspect it would do more harm than good if it were actually enforceable.
Of course it would.
Say what you want about the youngin’ in the room called “America”, but its Constitution and subsequent Bill of Rights tends to speak centuries worth of wisdom regarding why you can never trust the “government”, regardless if it’s lead by a President or a King.
Censorship always follows disarmament.
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That's bogus. The reason why there are so many 'right wing loons' is that the government is actually an incipient totalitarian entity servicing the wealthy, and (some) people wised up to it. As a result, these people do not trust anything from DC. Others are within the propaganda bubble of the cities and haven't realized this yet, and buy the 'otherization' of those who are not on the side of the incipient totalitarian government. That's you. You'll get the memo eventually and regret it.
The process has
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Others are within the propaganda bubble of the cities
It still beats the shit out of rural ignorance, bigotry and prejudice! There's a reason why markets are controlled in one of the densest city neighbourhoods
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The American worship of freedom of speech at almost any price is why there are so many right wing loons wallowing in ignorance and hatred.
And the alternative?
It’s no surprise that left wing loons label themselves as perpetual victims. Those citizens are practically begging for History to fuck them right in the ass.
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Itâ(TM)s no surprise that left wing loons label themselves as perpetual victims.
The right wing is continually complaining that someone is trying to destroy their way of life when it's complete nonsense. War on Christmas, waah! They're coming to eat your pets, signed catturd, the guy who ran over his dog. They're not sending us their best people, they're sending us the late, great, Hannibal Lecter.
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Itâ(TM)s no surprise that left wing loons label themselves as perpetual victims.
The right wing is continually complaining that someone is trying to destroy their way of life when it's complete nonsense. War on Christmas, waah! They're coming to eat your pets..
Let me just stop you there and remind you that modern liberal feminists are some of the most undateable women ever, so broken they struggle to define what a “woman” is anymore. “Merry Christmas” was deemed a horrific slur, and “they” have come. And they have already eaten American pets. Perhaps when yours goes missing you’ll give a shit.
Your arguments would be hilarious if it weren’t for the crippling cloud of truth hanging over the reality of today that is
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The only good thing about modern liberalism? Itâ(TM)s far too arrogant to survive more than a generation or two.
That's as perennial a claim as "kids these days are worthless", but we keep having more generations, and we keep having liberalism as well. It's a natural reaction to realizing that austerity doesn't work, and the only way out is through. Going back doesn't work, it never worked.
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The only good thing about modern liberalism? Itâ(TM)s far too arrogant to survive more than a generation or two.
That's as perennial a claim as "kids these days are worthless", but we keep having more generations, and we keep having liberalism as well. It's a natural reaction to realizing that austerity doesn't work, and the only way out is through. Going back doesn't work, it never worked.
Conservatives, tend to follow the timeless conservative values that create families and have sustained generations for centuries.
Liberals, tend to follow feelings that create divorces and sustain horrific abortion statistics.
100 years from now you tell me which ideology stands a chance. Lesbian divorce statistics tend to prove “toxic” masculinity was one hell of a lame excuse. Going back does work when you create no other choice, and realize “progress” is more a sales pitch than re
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Conservatives, tend to follow the timeless conservative values that create families and have sustained generations for centuries.
Liberals, tend to follow feelings that create divorces and sustain horrific abortion statistics.
Conservatives tend to outlaw things like divorce and abortion, and then wonder why they have a bunch of severely fucked up inbred dipshits among them.
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and then wonder why they have a bunch of severely fucked up inbred dipshits among them.
They would wonder if they had the brainpower to do so, but as it happens, inbred dipshits make the best unwashed, knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing untoothed conservatives, so they surely don’t mind that and much less wonder!
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This reminds me of Cato the Younger. His opposition to the populares Caesar on firmly conservative tenets turned out to be prescient. It wasn't 30 years later and Rome was a permanent despotism.
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Doesn't sound very prescient to me, maybe they should have not been screwing over the majority of the population in the first place? Letting the rich loot the soldiers' retirement plan, in a war-based empire, then being surprised at being overthrown, is kind of the opposite of prescient.
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I think Cato's point was that they shouldn't be recruiting in such ways, promising plots of land in Italy. The conservative argument was that this kind of recruitment was how the Punic wars had been won, and should be sustained.
I could go on at length but the argument by their commanders was that the soldiers of the victorious armies should be given land out of the public lands. The problem was that those were already in use by the very wealthy, not just lying fallow. That was the crux of the argument, n
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Ah. My (mis?)understanding was that there was a bit more of a Sheriff of Nottingham situation, where when land was given out, the rich created fictional people and bribed the government to pick those "people" to give the land to. And regardless of the details, the rich had enormous amounts of land, enormous amounts of political power, while the soldiers had "risk your life for your country, years away from business and family, we'll give you land later... later... later...". It was inevitable that someone w
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The right wing is continually complaining that someone is trying to destroy their way of life when it's complete nonsense.
The left wants to improve everyones’ lives while the right wants to worsen it.
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its Constitution and subsequent Bill of Rights tends to speak centuries worth of wisdom regarding why you can never trust the “government”,
It’s just the americans who don’t trust the government, thanks to their bourgeois, calvinist culture where the government is continuously denigrated and thus, there is next to no culture of competent civil service as talent is not attracted to government because of it’s stigma.
What does not help is that the overwhelming majority of politicians are failed businessmen who have no idea how to operate a company, and much less a country. All those people understand is the concept of money in t
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Mandatory national DNS is probably not the worst idea in the world in theory
I think is an awful idea even in theory but please explain what theoretical benefits do you think it may have, |I can see none (single use would be censorship).
Politicians are stupid and want more control (Score:2)
Same thing anywhere. Only the degree varies.
The article is inaccurate and misleading (Score:2)
No surprise there... (Score:1)
They know very well that education is the absolute ennemy of their obscurantism. Islam must be absolutely be fought by all means possible, it’s a cancer that threatens to take back Mankind a thousand years!