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Google Is Killing Its VPN Service (engadget.com) 30

An anonymous reader shares a report: If you're -- apparently, one of the few people -- using the VPN service that comes with Google One, we've got bad news for you. In an email you're going to receive from Google if you haven't gotten it yet, it revealed that it's phasing out the perk sometime later this year. The company rolled out Google One's VPN feature back in 2020, but you could only access it then if you're paying for a plan with at least 2TB of storage, which costs at least $10 a month. Last year, the company expanded its availability across all One plans, including the basic $2-per-month option, making it more affordable than before.
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Google Is Killing Its VPN Service

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  • by H3lldr0p ( 40304 ) on Friday April 12, 2024 @09:28AM (#64389196) Homepage

    It has to do with that lawsuit they settled where they were spying on incognito mode in their browser?

    They're also spying on their vpn users despite the whole idea behind a vpn is for privacy and security. With the notice tucked away in their user acceptance boilerplate that the service that's commonly used for privacy cannot and will not be guaranteed to be either private or secure because they're busy harvesting data from it.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      They're also spying on their vpn users despite the whole idea behind a vpn is for privacy and security.

      That's not accurate.
      A VPN is an encrypted tunnel that should prevent the traffic between two points from being intercepted. When your data emerges on the far end of the tunnel (unencrypted) it isn't private.

      All you're doing with a VPN is shifting trust around.

      I have a handful of clients that VPN into their offices from home. The VPN ensures they are who they say they are and allows them to access their corporate resources. There's absolutely zero privacy though. I can connect to the router and snif

      • The issues with an employer-run VPN is that you are describing is exclusive to a "full tunnel" setup (all traffic goes through the VPN) as opposed to "split tunnel" (only corporate network traffic goes over the VPN) setup. A split tunnel setup doesn't allow for that much spying on employees, but many companies default to the hardcore full tunnel (which also causes performance hits etc) due to a spiritual belief it's more secure.

        VPNs controlled by your employer are fine, so are those by yourself. Those c

        • Those controlled by some commercial entity are not to be used.

          You never asked me what I use it for, and whom I'm hiding from. Privacy isn't a black and white, on or off concept. There's many bands of grey. For example it's why I'm happy posting under a pseudonym here instead of as AC. I don't need complete privacy for this post.

          Likewise many people don't give a shit about Google spying on them because Google doesn't sell their data wholesale to any idiot with a credit card, rather they sell access to you via API and targeted adverts but keep that juicy data to themsel

          • Just because Google is spying on their VPN customers, doesn't make the VPN worthless for many use cases.

            No, and that is reducing a small part of my argument. VPNs are worthless for reasons including: the deployment of HSTS and TLS throughout the internet, making eavesdropping and "coffee shop" attacks a thing of the past; the use of trackers that can easily detect when most users are using a VPN and correlate them to an identity; the ease of traffic correlation attacks on VPN users vs Tor when law enforcement is involved; and the false sense of security garnered by VPN users.

            Don't just believe me: https:/ [nytimes.com]

    • the whole idea behind a vpn is for privacy and security.

      That's the marketing bullshit various VPN services sell you, but that is NOT what a VPN is about.

      All a VPN is is a secure connection between two points and disallows interception of that communication between these two points. Nothing else. One point is the VPN client, the other point is the VPN server. In case of such a "privacy VPN provider", that would be you and that VPN provider.

      What happens after the VPN provider is anyone's guess. And whether there is any security or privacy after your connection eme

  • Shit service anyways (Score:5, Informative)

    by ArmoredDragon ( 3450605 ) on Friday April 12, 2024 @09:31AM (#64389204)

    Had that service for a year included with a separate deal. The VPN was complete crap -- slow as hell, probably not even private, useless for geoblock avoidance, no split tunneling. I've used better services that were completely free.

    • Had that service for a year included with a separate deal. The VPN was complete crap -- slow as hell, probably not even private, useless for geoblock avoidance, no split tunneling. I've used better services that were completely free.

      Have you noticed that using European countries with VPN, a lot of people are geoblocking them. I geoblock Europe on my sites, but I thought I was just a crank. Nope. They are trying to dictate the internet, and many are saying GFY.

      • VPNs are blocked by a lot of services. I wouldn't call that geoblocking, since it usually doesn't matter where the VPN servers are located. And yeah it's a problem.

        VOIP is also blocked by a lot of services for the purpose of authentication. Another problem. Well, problem for me. Great for companies that want to spy on people.
        • VPNs are blocked by a lot of services. I wouldn't call that geoblocking, since it usually doesn't matter where the VPN servers are located. And yeah it's a problem.

          Although many cases do say something along the lines of "This content is not available in your country". And those are almost exclusively EU. A couple hang on Brazil.

          But yes - vpn has some weird issues. My printer doesn't work if I am on VPN, and some of my services like Zoom don't like it either. And sites like Lowes and Home Depot, get very weird. Trying to access either site, they seem to randomly guess where you are.

  • by stealth_finger ( 1809752 ) on Friday April 12, 2024 @09:31AM (#64389206)
    What else are they going to do with it?
  • by ole_timer ( 4293573 ) on Friday April 12, 2024 @09:56AM (#64389262)
    ...VPN means Virtual Public Network
  • by aldousd666 ( 640240 ) on Friday April 12, 2024 @10:32AM (#64389376) Journal
    The last company I would want having access to my span port is google. Sure they know everything about me already, but heck if I'm wrapping it up in a gift box for them. I use a VPN for ad blocking, not increasing google's stranglehold over me. It's like their VPN is exactly the opposite, a worst case scenario, of what I would ever consider.
    • Honestly that's a false dichotomy there. If Google already know everything about you then they are precisely the people who you should trust with your data as trusting literally anyone else can only increase the number of people who know shit about you, which isn't a good thing.

      Now if on the other hand you managed to keep yourself private from Google then you'd most definitely be on point, but it's also worth remembering what happens to your data. Google make a profit on selling access to you, they don't se

  • by black3d ( 1648913 ) on Friday April 12, 2024 @10:45AM (#64389418)
    (paraphrasing) A VPN run by Google is like a woman's refuge run by Ted Bundy.
  • by Kokuyo ( 549451 ) on Friday April 12, 2024 @11:06AM (#64389462) Journal

    They are killing everything they touch. They're even killing their search engine, it just happens more slowly. You can already smell the rotting of flesh, though.

  • Seems that (Score:5, Funny)

    by rossdee ( 243626 ) on Friday April 12, 2024 @11:29AM (#64389516)

    You only find out about Google services when they announce its cancellation

  • I use the Google Fi VPN. Not with the expectation of privacy (because that would be hilarious), but with the hope that it's more secure using that when out and about on hotel wifi and the like. Hopefully they aren't ditching that one too.
    • Can you please explain the security advantage of using a VPN on "hotel wifi?" I'll give you a hint: There is none, all those "hotel wifi" SSLStrip attacks haven't worked in nearly a decade. I'll be happy to technically explain to disabuse you of any notion the VPN helps in these situations.
  • I expect to see this headline on Slashdot within in the next 10 years.

  • Don't people use VPNs to get away from google's spying?
  • Google shutting down a service after a couple of years? I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked!
  • It also comes with Google Fi cell service.

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