YouTuber Who Deliberately Crashed Plane For Views Is Headed To Federal Prison (yahoo.com) 122
Trevor Jacob, a daredevil YouTuber who deliberately crashed a plane for views in a moneymaking scheme, has been sentenced to six months in federal prison. Jacob posted a video of himself in 2021 parachuting out of a plane that he claimed had malfunctioned. In reality, the aircraft was purposely abandoned and crashed into the Los Padres National Forest in Southern California. From a report: Jacob pleaded guilty to one felony count of destruction and concealment with the intent to obstruct a federal investigation on June 30. "It appears that (Jacob) exercised exceptionally poor judgment in committing this offense," prosecutors said in the release. "(Jacob) most likely committed this offense to generate social media and news coverage for himself and to obtain financial gain. Nevertheless, this type of 'daredevil' conduct cannot be tolerated."
Jacob received a sponsorship from a company and had agreed to promote the company's wallet in the YouTube video that he would post. [...] The release said Jacob lied to federal investigators when he filed a report that falsely indicated his plane lost full power approximately 35 minutes into the flight. He also lied to a Federal Aviation Administration aviation safety inspector when he said he had parachuted out of the plane when the airplane's engine had quit because he could not identify any safe landing options.
Jacob received a sponsorship from a company and had agreed to promote the company's wallet in the YouTube video that he would post. [...] The release said Jacob lied to federal investigators when he filed a report that falsely indicated his plane lost full power approximately 35 minutes into the flight. He also lied to a Federal Aviation Administration aviation safety inspector when he said he had parachuted out of the plane when the airplane's engine had quit because he could not identify any safe landing options.
Is he banned from flying too? (Score:2)
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Possibly not if the Supreme Court rules that EVERYONE is allowed their day in court, and not limited to bureaucratic rules.
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His certificate was revoked in April 2022 with eligibility to reapply after one year, but the Airmen Registry still lists him as having no valid certificate and his medical expired last month.
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Are you American? Just curious and trying to frame your point of view.
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That's how it works in the US. People want you to go to prison forever but when you tell them their taxes is paying for it, they get all flustered and hot. It's a constant state of duality.
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Re: Is he banned from flying too? (Score:4, Insightful)
As mentioned prior being banned from flying isn't cruel or unusual. It happens all the time to people that didn't even do anything wrong.
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This isn't an opinion steeped in rehabilitation vs punishment within the justice system.
I don't think its safe to have someone like that in our skies and I would hope our safety institutions never grant him the privilege again
These two statements are contradictory. You are saying here that he can not be rehabilitated, you are denying that possibility.
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Don't forget that the reckless and deliberate crashing of an aircraft into public lands wasn't the only thing he did.
He also lied and omitted information from NTSB investigators that were assigned to the incident. You don't get to do that, and then fly again. Because how could we possibly trust anything that comes out of this guy if he's involved in another incident, especially if it's a loss-of-life incident?
There are countless places in state and federal administrative law that says a breach-of-trust cr
Re:Is he banned from flying too? (Score:4, Insightful)
Consider his lapse of judgement equivalent to someone convicted of DUI. Most people support punishment for that dangerous activity, but very few see it as justification for a lifetime ban from driving. In this case, he did the equivalent of driving his car off a cliff, recording it, and claiming it was all an accident just to get media attention.
There is also a big difference between a private pilot license and a commercial pilot license. In the future if he gets a private pilot license again he might convince friends and family to fly with him but I doubt he will ever be licensed to fly paying passengers.
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I would see it as grounds for a lifetime ban if it wasn’t absolutely required for living in 99% of the country.
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It was ambiguous, but I believe he was stating that *driving* is a necessity in 99% of the country.
That's also hyperbole as there are literally millions of people that don't have cars or a driver's license, and they manage to live in this country too.
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There is a difference between having the privilege to pilot a plane versus being able to drive. Driving, like it or not, is practically a prerequisite for fully participating in American society. Having a pilot's license isn't essential, as 99.8% of US adults can attest. Earning a pilot's license is a lot
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If this guy was a pilot for a living, he would have never done such a stupid thing because risking your entire career for some YouTube clicks is not a trade that any legitimate commercial pilot would ever entertain, and commercial pilots know that you do not fuck with the FAA or the NTSB if you would like to continue being a commercial pilot.
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There's a big difference between being banned from flying and being banned from driving. Flying is a frivolity; it's a hobby, it's optional. Driving is pretty close to mandatory in modern North American society. Sure, you can get by without it, but at significant impact to your quality of life.
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Is there no value in offering redemption? If we say "you can be a pilot again, but you must demonstrate that you are reformed first", is that not motivation to put in the work to make himself a better person, and an opportunity to repay his debt to society by becoming a productive member of it?
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I think he should lose the privilege of ever being able to pilot an aircraft again.
Fuck off with that punitive mindset bullshit. "Forever" is a REALLY REALLY long time and allows for no change in a human. Your attitude is ghoulish and leads to hell for all of us. Stop it now or you will be victimized by your own attitude sooner or later.
What a miserable life you must be living to think like this.
Re: Is he banned from flying too? (Score:2)
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That guy dropped a flying bomb into some area and had zero idea if there are any people that could get hurt, and he didn't give a fuck if there were any.
You'd think it's ok I rig my car to crash into some building that I think, ok, well, I'm reasonably sure, is abandoned, to see if it collapses on top of my car, and if it doesn't kill anyone for some freak reason I should be allowed to do that again in a year?
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No. He doesn’t need to fly planes. Most people don’t get to ever fly a plane.
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If it was purely accidental and the infraction was without intent or malice, sure.
This action was to purposefully crash an aircraft into public forest lands, and then lie about it to the federal government when they do their investigation. That shows intent to deceive as well as intent to cause property damage, to say nothing about operating an aircraft in a decidedly unsafe manner that could harm others, including the danger of crashing an aircraft filled with petroleum distillates into a forest during a
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Just like we did with the twin towers?
I suspect Afghanistan might have a somewhat different opinion than you.
Re:Is he banned from flying too? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Actually, grandparent was complaining that Trump has gone to the left. So the complaints are coming from someone who is ultra right wing.
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According to the RWNJs tRump is the 2nd coming of Christ (actually much closer to the anti-christ but whatever). What's your point?
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I recall a noted science fiction author literally comparing Obama to Jesus in 2008.
So both sides are equally insane? That's hardly news.
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Carefully! LOL. It did seem pretty out of the blue!
Re: Is he banned from flying too? (Score:3)
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This lesser troll is doing his best. It is pathetic but leave it to his own kind to crush him.
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If he was brown and killed himself in the stunt, I'm pretty sure a totally different group would be cheering.
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That's weird, are Denver prisons airborne?
if he caused a fire (Score:3, Insightful)
los padres isn’t exactly overflowing with water. if that asshat caused a fire that destroyed habitat and communities, what would he do? say he’s sorry?
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what would he do? say he’s sorry?
Many, many, many times, hopefully to deaf ears.
Re:if he caused a fire (Score:4, Insightful)
I'll never understand the vindictiveness of some people. He did something super stupid and dangerous, but he also made sure to do it in an area where the chance of hitting something was very low and he's doing 6 months in federal prison, and he will likely never fly again.
That seriously isn't enough for you?
Re:if he caused a fire (Score:5, Interesting)
This was not a crime of passion; it was very deliberately planned and a cost/benefit analysis was done. It was not the sort of thing where the chances of getting caught are easily dismissed.
In short, it's exactly the sort of thing that harsh punishments work on when you're trying to stop others from doing similar things. Which you should be interested in, because there are channels you can go through to do things legitimately so we can be reasonably assured no third parties will be killed, injured, or suffer properly losses.
Should he spend life in prison, no. But six months and then having this dog him for the rest of his life seems about right.
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This was not a crime of passion; it was very deliberately plannedand then having this dog him for the rest of his life seems about right.
Whatever happened to paying your dues, then being left the fuck alone? What else, exactly, should be heaped on him for the "rest of his life?"
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>Whatever happened to paying your dues, then being left the fuck alone?
Crime isn't like buying something and once you pay for it you're done. Unless there are extenuating circumstances, for the rest of your life you're "someone who has proven they will commit crimes like [x]".
You don't, for instance, murder someone and do your dime and walk out like nothing happened. You're always going to be a murderer. With some work, you might get an asterisk after that with the notation "possibly reformed". You
Re:if he caused a fire (Score:5, Insightful)
for the rest of your life you're "someone who has proven they will commit crimes like [x]"
And what do you base this conclusion of yours on?
The Communists of Soviet Russia (and all similar regimes, Nazi or otherwise) liked to keep a perpetual tab of "crimes" for everyone, so that anyone could be controlled throughout their lives through fear of punishment.
In many cases, a the punishment took the form of perpetual denial of opportunities, even based on "crimes" their ancestors "committed" (which, naturally, weren't crimes at the time) was also imposed.
Sounds like you'd have been right at home over there.
Incidentally, I don't see your outrage at the sponsor of this behaviour, which is strange. Should you not demand that the company that agreed to pay the bills and the owners and management should be similarly marked?
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Ah. My fault. I've seen your ID before and I should have remembered you have reading comprehension issues and ignore arguments and simply post what you like as a 'response'.
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It is always funny when someone makes a stupid argument and then when called out runs away quoting IDs. What does my ID mean other than that I lost an email account years ago? My first ID here was almost exactly 1/12 of yours. By your logic, your reading comprehension issues are then 12 times larger than mine. Go fix em :)
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I'm curious now, are you actually not understanding plain English, or just ignoring it because it doesn't support your rants?
Your retort has nothing to do with my post. You're just throwing irrelevant shit hoping it'll stick. You argue like a child.
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for the rest of your life you're "someone who has proven they will commit crimes like [x]"
And what do you base this conclusion of yours on?
The Communists of Soviet Russia (and all similar regimes, Nazi or otherwise) liked to keep a perpetual tab of "crimes" for everyone, so that anyone could be controlled throughout their lives through fear of punishment.
In many cases, a the punishment took the form of perpetual denial of opportunities, even based on "crimes" their ancestors "committed" (which, naturally, weren't crimes at the time) was also imposed.
Sounds like you'd have been right at home over there.
Incidentally, I don't see your outrage at the sponsor of this behaviour, which is strange. Should you not demand that the company that agreed to pay the bills and the owners and management should be similarly marked?
Odd, that also describes the US where you have to tell future employers, banks, land lords, et al. whether you've been in prison.
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Yep. We have Lexus Nexus.
And for that literally anyone can pull criminal history on anyone, anytime, back to 18 years of age. No need for potential employers to ask you.
This nation used to be called the "land of second chances." Now you have credit scores that keep people in medical debt from even renting a fucking apartment, and wide open criminal databases that keep you unemployed for decades for stealing a book from the library.
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"The Communists of Soviet Russia (and all similar regimes, Nazi or otherwise) liked to keep a perpetual tab of "crimes" for everyone" .... "the punishment took the form of perpetual denial of opportunities"
Sounds like the US for at least a century. Commit a variety of felonies and it follows you til the day you die. Want to vote, nope. Want a student loan, nope. Want to apply for a processional license, nope. Want to live certain places, nope. Want to get certain jobs, nope. And there's more that I'm not ev
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As an aside, it is very interesting to me how these two different viewpoints are exemplified by the posters. We often have subconscious values that are so very deeply ingrained that we feel they are universally applicable to all people - but they aren't. Being busy reading The WEIRDest People in the World [wikipedia.org], I am amazed at all these type of differences - having an
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The truth is between these two places:
Here in the US, with the fact that any arrest is public, even if one was picked up for mistaken identity, or at the wrong place/wrong time, they now have to deal with that on their arrest record for the rest of their life. Even though they are not convicted, many employers have a philosophy of, "A conviction can be bought, but if a cop thought someone was guilty enough to pull out the handcuffs and book them, they ARE guilty in our eyes, and we are not hiring them."
Eve
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in several places in the USA
Understatement of the century. There are fucktards everywhere. Lots right here on this comment section.
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Sounds like Baron_Yam would prefer for him to be poor and unable to rebuild his life, but not so poor that he feels he has no choice but to rob Baron_Yam's house or end up in prison again where Baron_Yam's taxes get to pay for his accommodation.
If we can't reform criminals and give them the opportunity to become productive, tax paying members of society again, we have to accept that we are creating a criminal underclass and have to pay the associated cost.
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>Sounds like Baron_Yam would prefer for him to be poor and unable to rebuild his life, but not so poor that he feels he has no choice but to rob Baron_Yam's house or end up in prison again where Baron_Yam's taxes get to pay for his accommodation.
You seem to have no ability to understand there is a large potential continuum of outcomes between 'not quite destitute enough to die / be forced into crime' and 'same as everyone else'.
I've also found that people who are so keen on reform as a magic reset button
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Has anywhere in the US ever tried to properly reform criminals? I mean like they do in Nordic countries.
I'd be happy living next to that.
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He’s rich and he risked it all for a big payoff. I say leave him penniless so he has to sleep under a bridge (and get eaten by a troll)
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It is just your stomach talking.
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I know that, as a software developer, every job does a background check. I even had a bank turn me down for unpaid parking tickets in Denver. There isn't an employer I've ever met that would hire a felon. Not for any remotely decent job.
My brother had a felony at age 19 and every single job since then, to this very day, he's absolutely terrified they'll go past the customary 7 years.
We need a constitutional amendment to end these vindictive and cruel practices.
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I'm not asking them to force the sale of his kidneys. Flying is definitely a luxury item, not a right, and if he loses that luxury for life I see that as a justified punishment given the responsibility of those who fly airplanes and how callously he shirked it.
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Some crimes require paying your dues for the rest of your life.
Especially when you conclusively prove you're so broken that you can deliberately, in a cold blooded manner, plan something as dangerous as crashing an airplane on purpose in the middle of a forest. This guy can never be trusted to not endanger other people's lives.
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You're just a cunt. That's all.
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Thanks for admitting I'm right, and that you know it.
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I think actually demonstrating that people get caught is enough to deter others.
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Not when they get showered with RAID and NordVPN endorsements when they get out.
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If you'd bothered to read what I replied it, it wasn't about what actually happened, it was about what might have happened. So, if his stunt had caused a fire, no, the punishment for not causing a fire would not have been good enough for me.
Dumbass.
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He also did it on purpose. It's the difference between murder and manslaughter - the latter is when you kill someone (by accident or otherwise). Murder is when you actually intended to kill someone. Ther
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He's not in the most trouble for his stunt.
He's in the most trouble for attempting to conceal evidence of his stunt.
If he had done it and owned up to it he would have probably just lost his license and paid a fine.
Concealing evidence costs us all money. Fuck that guy.
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No. He should get the electric chair.
Or at least the electric airplane control yoke ... GREEN and SHOCKING at the same time!
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los padres isn’t exactly overflowing with water. if that asshat caused a fire that destroyed habitat and communities, what would he do? say he’s sorry?
Jacob received a sponsorship from a company and had agreed to promote the company's wallet...
Dunno. Maybe we should ask the asshats who literally sponsored this asshattery. Wasn't done just for the shits and clicks.
idiotic influencer stunts (Score:2)
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"It appears that (Jacob) exercised exceptionally poor judgment in committing this offense," prosecutors said in the release. "(Jacob) most likely committed this offense to generate social media and news coverage for himself and to obtain financial gain. Nevertheless, this type of 'daredevil' conduct cannot be tolerated."
I'm glad the prosecutors didn't let Jacob's noble goals cloud their judgement.
It was the lying that got him (Score:5, Interesting)
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Mythbusters crashed a 727 a few years ago. That was legal. It was also much more authorized.
I suspect that if had of been authorised and "staged" (I mean staged properly) then it wouldn't have gotten all the likes and views he wanted.
TV shows do this kind of stuff all the time, In series 2 of Top Gear they launched a car from the catapult of a RN aircraft carrier and that wasn't even the start of it (including dropping a beetle from mile up to see if it could hit the ground faster than a 911 could do a standing mile. They'd be sued out of existence if this wasn't authorised.
Also I suspect th
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Mythbusters crashed a 727 a few years ago. That was legal. It was also much more authorized.
Not Mythbusters, it was a different Discovery Channel show, and they crashed it in Mexico because the FAA would not approve it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Boeing_727_crash_experiment
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Karma demands that he should have roman candled his way to the ground as part of his stupid stunt.
For the unaware ... roman candling your parachute, or whatever you call that bad situation, is definitely A BAD THING to have happen to you.
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" the middle of nowhere" still has people and property. If someone is letting something the size if an airplane randomly drift to crash on properly THAT ISN'T theirs, I want the government to do whatever they can to prevent and deter that. Honestly, many people have gone to jail for longer than 6 months for a DUI that didn't result in bodily harm or damages. He got off easy.
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This kind of stupid clout-chasing needs to die in a fire, after having all its limbs broken and being forcibly emasculated with a dull spoon.
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nope, 6 months, not years
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Needs to be banned from the internet (Score:2)
Felonyâ¦ouch (Score:3)
Six months in a Federal Prison isnâ(TM)t as bad as six months in a state pen. Even as far as misdemeanors go, six months is a short sentence. The felony conviction, however, will probably stop copycatters.
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Six months in a Federal Prison isnâ(TM)t as bad as six months in a state pen. Even as far as misdemeanors go, six months is a short sentence. The felony conviction, however, will probably stop copycatters.
It seems sufficient to me. They don't really need to destroy this guy's life -- though they probably could if they had stacked up all of the charges available, rather than settling for the easiest-to-prove charge, obstruction -- they just need to make sure the world knows that this sort of thing is really not acceptable. They just needed the headlines "YouTuber who deliberately crashed plane going to prison for felony". Mission accomplished.
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But let's play a game: Lemme chuck rocks at your head in the hopes that I don't hit you. C'mon, don't be such a snowflake about it.
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He allowed his plane to become a ballistic missile not giving a toss if it hit anyone or cause any damage
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