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Nokia Sues Amazon From US To India Over Streaming-Tech Patents (bloomberg.com) 9

Nokia sued Amazon in courts across three continents, alleging the e-commerce giant uses its technologies in streaming services and devices without authorization. From a report: The suits were filed in the US, Germany, India, the UK, and the European Unified Patent Court, Arvin Patel, Nokia's Chief Licensing Officer said in a statement on the company's website. Separately, a suit was also filed against HP in the US over video-related technologies, he said.
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Nokia Sues Amazon From US To India Over Streaming-Tech Patents

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  • by Anonymous Coward
    Why the pay walled source for an information free summary? When you can just read Nokia's puffery statement directly here [nokia.com].

    No actually patent numbers, sadly.
  • by UncleScidhuv ( 7657782 ) on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @04:08PM (#63969862)
    As I've heard from patent lawyers when money is tight is when these types of suit start happening. In good times you spend money on generating patents, in bad times you exercise them.
    • The comment seems valid to me.

    • Nokia is not the biggest company as they once were but I think they own Bell Labs now if I'm not mistaken. That might be a factor.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      TFA is a bit vague about exactly what the patents cover, but the Nokia blog post hints at video formats like H.265.

      To become part of a standard like H.265, patents have to be offered on a fair and non-discriminatory basis. In other words, reasonable cost and no blocking your competitors just because.

      Often no money changes hands, companies simply do a patent swap instead where they cross licence each others technology. I guess Amazon doesn't have anything that Nokia wants.

      So this might not be BS if it is a v

  • Put up a go fund me, I'd happily contribute to a law suite against HP.

  • by williamyf ( 227051 ) on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @11:21PM (#63970658)

    The Nokia that is suing Amazon is not the Nokia that makes Nokia phones. As a matter of fact, the company that makes Nokia Phones is not Nokia, rather, is HMD Global*, and it licenses the brand from Nokia.

    The Nokia Suing Amazon is the Nokia that makes Telecom Gear (think GPON, 10GPON, Telco routers, telco Datacom gear, 4-5G core, 4-5G basestations, DWDM gear, etc). That company is the Voltron of telecoms. Consisting of:

    The Telecom part of the nokia of old (the one that made phones)
    The telecom part of Siemens
    The Telecom part of Motorola.
    The company formerly known as Alcatel-Lucent (the merger of, well, Alcatel and Lucent**).

    I am too lazy to research the patent numbers, and see where the patents originated (Nokia, Lucent, Alcatel, Siemens, Motorola), but one thing is for sure, Nokia is hardly a "non practicing entity" (the PC name for a patent troll). That is to say, they sunk good R&D £€¥$ into the patents, probably even used some of them in their own products, and licensed others to some other streamers... So.. let's see how this goes.

    * The consumer electronics arm of nokia is a small investor in HMD Global, the majority investor is HonHai Precision Industries, owners also of companies like sharp and belkin, and known around here as Foxconn. I guess they do not want to depend solely on assembling iPhones.

    ** Remember, Lucent own Bell-LAbs, creators, among other things, of Unix. Hardly a patent troll

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