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'No Fakes Act' Wants To Protect Actors and Singers From Unauthorized AI Replicas (theverge.com) 60

Emilia David reports via The Verge: A bipartisan bill seeks to create a federal law to protect actors, musicians, and other performers from unauthorized digital replicas of their faces or voices. The Nurture Originals, Foster Art, and Keep Entertainment Safe Act of 2023 -- or the No Fakes Act -- standardizes rules around using a person's faces, names, and voices. Sens. Chris Coons (D-DE), Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), and Thom Tillis (R-NC) sponsored the bill.

It prevents the "production of a digital replica without consent of the applicable individual or rights holder" unless part of a news, public affairs, sports broadcast, documentary, or biographical work. The rights would apply throughout a person's lifetime and, for their estate, 70 years after their death. The bill includes an exception for using digital duplicates for parodies, satire, and criticism. It also excludes commercial activities like commercials as long as the advertisement is for news, a documentary, or a parody. Individuals, as well as entities like a deceased person's estate or a record label, can file for civil action based on the proposed rules. The bill also explicitly states that a disclaimer stating the digital replica was unauthorized won't be considered an effective defense.

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'No Fakes Act' Wants To Protect Actors and Singers From Unauthorized AI Replicas

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  • by SlideWRX ( 660190 ) on Thursday October 12, 2023 @10:16PM (#63921757)

    Also the news; why does the news need to create digital replicas that aren't part of digital affairs? That really feels like a loophole for "news" to create "news" without repercussions.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12, 2023 @11:22PM (#63921843)

      For stuff like this?
      Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton win big in Super Tuesday 2016 as Sanders, Rubio, Cruz get pwned:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

      Trump angers China: After Taiwan call, Trump decides to double down against butthurt Chinese:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

      Or do they count as parody?

    • by Can'tNot ( 5553824 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:38AM (#63921963)
      I assume: replays. That goes for news as well, TV news often uses animations to reconstruct an event. I can see the utility there, though I would hope for a requirement that any such animations be clearly labeled as fake.
    • by Kisai ( 213879 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @04:40AM (#63922127)

      Probably because "re-inactment" and "instant replay" count as this.

      Basically there is a huge "loophole" wide enough to slide a ship though if they don't explicitly mention this. Because any "digital replica" includes archive footage of the actual person. Remember a deepfake need not be just video or just audio, it can be the original video with a tampered audio, or vice versa just as easily.

      Like really I don't see this act doing much except prohibiting the unauthorized use of a person as selling point by AI. An extension of what already exists. Like people already make deepfake parody stuff audio stuff already. Audio is probably the easiest to "deepfake" to someone who isn't aware of what a deepfake sounds like.

      What they should be expressly forbidding is the lies and deepfaking of any material for political purposes. Because right now they can lie, and people believe obvious lies. No AI or Deepfaking required. The only defence against a deepfake at present is proof that the subject of the deepfake doesn't exist. To fight a deepdake you have to pretty much file a lawsuit against whoever published it first to figure out if the source is legitimate or generated by AI.

      At any rate, the clearer problem is the deepfaking of singers. This is because there is currently a disturbing trend of "AI covers" that are merely using the original song as the input and changing the singer's Voice by AI. It's STILL the original singer, just now they've been pitch warped to sound like another singer. Autotune on Steroids.

  • by oldgraybeard ( 2939809 ) on Thursday October 12, 2023 @10:18PM (#63921759)
    " or rights holder", " or a record label", "activities like commercials" just politicians doing what they were paid to do.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12, 2023 @10:32PM (#63921777)

      Well the act is pointless then. Those uses are already authorized because the actors have already signed over all rights to their digital likenesses when they turned up to an audition, signed an agreement, and stepped into a scanning booth to be digitized. This has been happening for years already - long before all this "AI" nonsense starting becoming popular in the news since last the ChatGPT release last year.

      The media has always been slow to notice these things, here's an example from The Register that was late to the party: TV and Film Extras Are Afraid AI Will Copy Their Faces and Bodies To Take Jobs [slashdot.org]

      • by Rei ( 128717 ) on Thursday October 12, 2023 @10:39PM (#63921787) Homepage

        The bill doesn't even mention AI. As far as I can tell it even applies to, say, photoshopped images.

      • by vivian ( 156520 ) on Thursday October 12, 2023 @10:59PM (#63921813)

        Those uses are already authorized because the actors have already signed over all rights to their digital likenesses when they turned up to an audition

        The real shock for actors is going to be when the industry starts getting something like the "this person does not exist" website but for whole fully rigged and modelled fake personalities.
        It won't take too long before you can give instructions to something like ChatGPT to drive creation of animation sequences, with realistic physics and then no actor will ever have the conundrum of having to appear in a hemorrhoids cream commercial ever again - and then from that, on to making full movies.
        Will the viewing public care? Probably not, considering most of what you see an actor doing is all fake anyway - with few exceptions, most actors aren't doing all those stunts and things you see on screen anyway. I will still want to go to live action theatre every now and then though.
        I guess the tabloids will be the most unhappy when their bread and butter stories of celebrity shenanigans, dry up.

         

        • by DarkOx ( 621550 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:43AM (#63922411) Journal

          This ^

          The market for live theater is probably safer than screen.

          Look at how far stable diffusion technology has come in just a few years. Maybe not in absolute capability but in affordability and superior models, along with algorithms to detect and reject faulty results like messed up hands and faces. Its not going to be long before its possible to make a "photo real film" without actual actors.

          There won't be any way prevent this either, 1A is going to protect the studios right to do it. If the SAG people try to hitch their wagons to other elements of the production chain and force the use of actors through contract you are just going to see production more out of Hollywood and go places like Mexico as has already happen with a lot of the "hemorrhoids cream commercial" tier of production already to avoid costs imposed by union labor.

          As far as the movie industry goes, I think we see it first in the direct to video / TV movie tier where cheesy effects with obvious visual glitches are already well tolerated. I don't think anyone will care if the mom in this years Hallmark/GAF Christmas special moves her arms a little strangely on occasion. Similarly it wont matter if the surprise on the victims face in the lasted police procedural isnt quite right when the perp shoves them off the bridge, it wasnt right when a human was playing the role.

          We will next see this move into action movie and teen space, even if these are big budget things like Marvel movies, how much does it matter who they guy in the suit is, and since its all fantasy physics where people go flying when punched etc, it unnatural movements and impossible arm/finger contortions won't bother most of the audience (well nerds will complain bitterly on Slashdot but that hardly matters to the Studios).

          It will probably hit drams with lots of close shot work of the young couple at dinner last, as all these flaws will be most noticed there.

        • by Shaitan ( 22585 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:49AM (#63922423)

          You skipped porn from the progression. If they aren't the first ones doing this then they will certainly be early adopters of the tech. The cam girl gets replaced by an AI driven VR replica which can be modified in a number of basic ways and syncs with interactive sex toys. At first on demand access and then subscription-based.

      • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @07:09AM (#63922273)

        Those uses are already authorized because the actors have already signed over all rights to their digital likenesses when they turned up to an audition

        No they didn't. Seriously have you not been paying even the slightest amount of attention to the strikes these past few months?

      • by Shaitan ( 22585 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:40AM (#63922405)

        In some cases replicas are produced from previously recorded material. An obvious example of this would be the Tom Hanks fake commercials, we all in an absolute miracle of timing, all just saw hit the headlines just before we start hearing about this bill.

  • by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 ) on Thursday October 12, 2023 @10:21PM (#63921769)

    still need the union to ban / limit in contracts so they can't be forced to sign it away to get work

    • Bingo. Good luck getting work as a new hire if you have no choice but to sign away those rights, as is already happening for many no-name actors who are just starting out today. There are numerous stories of them signing the contract and then being whisked into a 3D scanning booth so that the studio can have digital doubles for extras in a crowd scene. What goes unstated is that the model could just as easily be used in a leading role in a few years, played by a talented no-name in a performance capture suit.

      We’re one generation (perhaps less) away from a future where the up-and-coming actors go unrecognized in public because they wear the skins of others in their films.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13, 2023 @11:08AM (#63922757)

      forced to sign it away

      Holy crap! I always thought that was just fiction, e.g. the band leader in The Godfather who was given an Offer He Can't Refuse. That's amazing that now it's happening in real life! Actors being told that if they don't sign, they'll be killed?!? How did we let things get this far?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12, 2023 @10:28PM (#63921773)

    then you deserve to be replaced.

  • Congress (Score:-1, Flamebait)

    by GayLinuxDev ( 6040718 ) on Thursday October 12, 2023 @11:12PM (#63921833)
    We're simply going to need a Hitler to sort out the mess the world is in right now with these disgusting jews and jew lovers. It's well past time for National Socialism.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12, 2023 @11:40PM (#63921863)

    n/m

  • by dschnur ( 61074 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @12:01AM (#63921885)
    Isn't that close to what we gave the Mouse? Typing up IP for so long hinders derivative growth. It's been said that "We stand on the shoulders of giants." Everything is based on something. If we let it get tied up for so long, it's our own creativity that pays the price. This is in no way about protecting actors rights.
  • by ls671 ( 1122017 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @12:04AM (#63921889) Homepage

    It also excludes commercial activities like commercials as long as the advertisement is for news, a documentary, or a parody.

    I have always wondered if "Weird Al" Yankovic had to pay anything to the original artists for the parody videos he makes...

    And I thought that TV commercials using genuine original artist songs had to pay them in order to use their songs.

    Anybody knows for sure?

  • by zenlessyank ( 748553 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @12:07AM (#63921895)

    But it's not OK for robots to play us. Gotcha.

  • by njen ( 859685 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:13AM (#63921943)
    Many 3D artists practice their skills by creating digital replicas of well known people including actors, then post the results on websites like Artstation. For example, here is one posted just 13 hours ago: https://www.artstation.com/art... [artstation.com]

    Would these artists be liable and/or prosecuted under this new bill? That would seem excessive...
  • by nicubunu ( 242346 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @03:00AM (#63922029) Homepage

    From my point of view, studios don't need to bother with digital copies of existing actors. If what I see on the screen acts believable, I don't care if is a brand new character or a copy of a human. You need a copy when the film has the real actor in it, but needs digital replacement only for some scenes, so no more body doubles, no more stunt actors.

    • by coofercat ( 719737 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:29AM (#63922385) Homepage Journal

      Historically, a crappy movie or TV show needed a good "anchor" actor to make it vaguely appealing. You can see it all over the place - essentially a crap product, but one good actor doing an amazing job (and likely being paid a boat load because without them the producers would have nothing).

      As such, if you've just made a crappy bit of TV, you need a good "anchor" - so you CGI in some famous actors face and voice and you're good to go. Only you're not - because you won't have their acting skill to build your crap upon. Therefore, those fakes are bad for the actors, and don't help the producers much either (although I guess "Tom Hanks stars in Utter Crap" might get more impulse viewers over what you'd expect with just "Utter Crap").

      Of course, if you're making a half decent bit of TV, then you don't need any big, known actors - you just need any old AI people for the job - so long as the training set was half decent acting, you're probably good to go. The story will speak for itself, and you've just made some decent TV with no actors at all - and the AIs don't look or sound like anyone in particular, so no humans have any claim over your work.

      The problem then of course becomes the need for a decent story/script etc. There lots of people think AI can help, but it really can't - at least not yet.

  • by bleedingobvious ( 6265230 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @04:25AM (#63922123)

    Drop the over-paid, self-infatuated dimbulbs. Drop in their AGI replacements and let's celebrate top quality production with no conintuity challenges.

    The writers were always the real stars.

  • by Chas ( 5144 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @06:07AM (#63922219) Homepage Journal

    Considering most of the entertainment industry are fake as hell...

  • by nospam007 ( 722110 ) * on Friday October 13, 2023 @07:25AM (#63922291)

    It's Tommy Cruz, his AI lookalike, the casting director chose him amongst 18932433214 applicants for the role.

    That his face and name are similar to an existing person is purely by chance.

    They're gone, nothing will prevent it.

    First somebody with money will bring out a movie without any actors, a year or 2 later actors will all be called 'waiters'.

    Typists and stenographers had to get a new job as well, it's not the end of the world.

    Just the end of being paid millions for 12 minutes of screen appearance.

    • by Shaitan ( 22585 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @09:15AM (#63922501)

      This is the stated reason for the bill. The rule of thumb in bill naming is to invert the real purpose as a form of misdirection.

      Who does this seem to hurt? The studios. So it must help the studios. But how? Surely paying money is bad for the profit hungry monsters taking advantage of these poor artists with their mega mansions, basements filled with stripper poles, and assistants who only have to pick out all the skittles flavors they don't like.

      Paying money sucks but it's worth it if you get something in return. But for the studios paying for rights is cost of doing business. So what do they get? They get rid of indie and upstart competition who have technical skills [or the ability to collectively pay toward a community driven solution] but couldn't afford the royalties of familiar and top talent. I mean if things continued down this road unhindered then one day ANYONE with an idea could be director and producer of media tweaking and tuning in collaboration with AI for practically nothing and produce music and one day feature films of hollywood quality without any of the hollywood staff.

      With this bill all the known likenesses will be locked up tight for at least 70 years by the existing and established industry players. In this way they'll remain the premium option even if upstarts begin producing content with characters nobody recognizes and putting it on streaming platforms.

    • by CalgaryD ( 9235067 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @10:24AM (#63922667)
      There are people in the world who really look similar. So... does this apply for videos of those people? What if a studio makes a digital copy of a person with a similarity to Tom Hanks? That person sells them permission? Or.. if the digital model have 4% random noise added to Tom Hanks' model. It sure looks somewhat similar, but it is not Tom Hanks, nor it is stated to be a model of Tom Hanks. What is that going to be?

      I hope that they there will be no such law. This will lead to a chaotic environment, I guess.

      • by quantaman ( 517394 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:18PM (#63923045)

        There are people in the world who really look similar. So... does this apply for videos of those people? What if a studio makes a digital copy of a person with a similarity to Tom Hanks? That person sells them permission? Or.. if the digital model have 4% random noise added to Tom Hanks' model. It sure looks somewhat similar, but it is not Tom Hanks, nor it is stated to be a model of Tom Hanks. What is that going to be?

        I hope that they there will be no such law. This will lead to a chaotic environment, I guess.

        If dead-ringers for Tom Hanks appearing in commercials and on billboards and misleading people into thinking they were Tom Hanks was an issue, we probably would have had a law for that already.

        In fact, for voice, I'm sure there's already a lot of voice artists who could be a convincing fake Tom Hanks for a radio commercial.

        Either way, I don't think they "not-quite Tom Hanks" is a big issue. If you're putting an AI Tom Hanks in your movie it's because you want people to think it's Tom Hanks. If you change it just enough to get away with it legally, then you've jumped into the uncanny valley and creeped people out.

        The only time I could see the edge case coming up is some cheap horror film where an uncanny valley not-quite Tom Hanks is actually achieving your desired affect, but that's more an interesting legal case than general chaos.

  • by IDemand2HaveSumBooze ( 9493913 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @07:49AM (#63922319)

    This could create a headache for game studios. Let's say in a game you have an NPC, just some generic, unimportant NPC that gets killed by the main boss before you get to battle them or something, and thus not based on an actual actor. Unfortunately it turns out that NPC happens to look very much like Joe Nobody, an up-and-coming actor/waiter who signed his likeness over to some big movie studio. The studio them proceeds to sue the game creator for creating an unauthorized digital replica.

    It's even more difficult with voice likeness. Let's say the same game creator asked a voice actor to voice an NPC using a voice that sounds a bit more gruff and low-pitched than his usual voice. Unfortunately that fake voice sounds a lot like the real voice of Giuseppe Nessuno, a little-known Italian musician who at some point signed his rights over to Sony or something, who proceed to sue for unauthorized digital replica.

    • by DarkOx ( 621550 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:57AM (#63922465) Journal

      I think you are right here this is a bad idea and is going to lead to a lot of litigation and frankly 'random' outcomes as to who prevails and who does not.

      If I ask AI to read some text as male with a deep voice and posh Scottish accent - its going to sound a hell of lot like Sean Connery. While he was a talented voice actor - his voice, like most human voice is not all that unique. His estate will sue and some poor jury will be sitting listen to clips asked to decide how alike they are and how alike is to like.

      We have already seen this with musical bridges etc.

  • by Shaitan ( 22585 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:33AM (#63922389)

    'prevents the "production of a digital replica without consent of the applicable individual or rights holder" unless part of a news, public affairs'

    So unauthorized production of digital replica's for the purpose of producing false news and politics materials are exempted. So the bill explicitly contains the exception to produce a fake video of Biden or Trump doing any sort of sketchy crap and air it on CNN/FOX and report it as news as well as for politicians to do the same.

    Both D's and R's on the sponsor list, in case you are wondering which party really wants to stop lying to their constituents.

    • by catprog ( 849688 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @06:23PM (#63923625) Homepage

      Counterpoint:

      Certain "news" companies make stuff up anyway. Why is suddenly a problem that it has fake video.

      -

      Make a bill that prohibits all the fake news instead.

      • by Shaitan ( 22585 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:09PM (#63923833)

        It was always a problem and this bill would have fixed this problem [or provided a path to legally address it anyway] but they explicitly exempted it instead.

        Without such a law and active enforcement of it deepfakes can become the norm and at that point we are all literally just taking on faith whatever we believe to be true. By controlling the information available to reasonable people you can control the only reasonable conclusions available to them. Instead of one person, one vote you de facto have one [or few] people deciding all the votes with the people just carrying it to the ballot box for them like good little lemmings.

        "Public affairs" is just an obfuscated phrase that means political purposes. It permits fabricating domestic propaganda by government and propagating it via media outlets. For instance to drum up public support for a war, unify behind current political leaders as a way to manipulate elections. A republic in which people are allowed to control the information available to voters and provide them with entirely fabricated evidence from official sources isn't a republic or democracy at all. This is standard practice for one party authoritarian regimes.

        This is a much bigger issue than creating digital rights for likenesses so that the entrenched megawealthy studios can maintain dominance rather than face a world where everyone with a plot idea can make a hollywood quality film with fantasy football style casting, writing style, filming style, etc the same afternoon they have the idea and release it for free on youtube/rumble 30mins later. Err... I mean... protecting the artists from the greedy studios that will now make $999M where they would have made $1b and stiffed the already incredibly wealthy superstars!

  • by I3OI3 ( 1862302 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:52AM (#63922439)
    So, I can't recreate Tom Cruise, but can I recreate a fully-licensed, authorized, and on-board Tom Cruise impersonator who is indistinguishable from Tom Cruise? Or is impersonation-for-hire going to now be an outlawed offense?

    Times square and Las Vegas will never be the same. Elvis died in 1977.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:52AM (#63922445)

    If AI can generate content good enough to be popular then you don't even need likenesses of known actors. You can make your own actors from scratch. Possibly even better than the known actors.

    So you create popular actors from scratch. They already do this in countries like Korea where they have famous personalities that are purely digital. They're not based on any existing person but instead made by marketing.

  • by oumuamua ( 6173784 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @10:03AM (#63922641)
    Codify Nepo babies.
    Isn't the American way for each person to pull themselves up by their bootstraps?
  • by MooseTick ( 895855 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @11:09AM (#63922761) Homepage

    What if someone creates a close match without ever saying it was the person in question?

    An example would be a "near" clone of Trump that looks/dresses/sounds like him but they never call him Trump. They could even change the eye color or make the figure his actual height of 5'11" as opposed to his "declared" height of 6'2". Then we will have endless litigation like the music industry has where songs sound like other songs and people have to decide whether there is a copyright violation or not.

  • by Asynchronously ( 7341348 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @02:49PM (#63923247)

    Lars Ulrich fought Napster until the bitter end, but ultimately the technology always wins.

  • by Tony Isaac ( 1301187 ) on Friday October 13, 2023 @07:01PM (#63923711) Homepage

    This is a bipartisan bill, that will have to be passed by partisans who literally can't vote on a single thing right now because they can't select a House Speaker. Where can we find some real legislators who can make laws that accomplish something meaningful? Oh never mind, all the real legislators have long ago been replaced by the fake ones. Maybe they were elected by fake electors too.

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