Buyers of Bored Ape NFTs Sue After Digital Apes Turn Out To Be Bad Investment (arstechnica.com) 175
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: The Sotheby's auction house has been named as a defendant in a lawsuit filed by investors who regret buying Bored Ape Yacht Club NFTs that sold for highly inflated prices during the NFT craze in 2021. A Sotheby's auction duped investors by giving the Bored Ape NFTs "an air of legitimacy... to generate investors' interest and hype around the Bored Ape brand," the class-action lawsuit claims. The boost to Bored Ape NFT prices provided by the auction "was rooted in deception," said the lawsuit filed in US District Court for the Central District of California. It wasn't revealed at the time of the auction that the buyer was the now-disgraced FTX, the lawsuit said.
"Sotheby's representations that the undisclosed buyer was a 'traditional' collector had misleadingly created the impression that the market for BAYC NFTs had crossed over to a mainstream audience," the lawsuit claimed. Lawsuit plaintiffs say that harmed investors bought the NFTs "with a reasonable expectation of profit from owning them." Sotheby's sold a lot of 101 Bored Ape NFTs for $24.4 million at its "Ape In!" auction in September 2021, well above the pre-auction estimates of $12 million to $18 million. That's an average price of over $241,000, but Bored Ape NFTs now sell for a floor price of about $50,000 worth of ether cryptocrurrency, according to CoinGecko data accessed today. [...]
The amended lawsuit alleges that "[Bored Ape creator Yuga Labs] colluded with fine arts broker, Defendant Sotheby's, to run a deceptive auction." After the sale, a Sotheby's representative described the winning bidder during a Twitter Spaces event as a "traditional" collector, the lawsuit said. The lawsuit said it turned out the auction buyer was now-bankrupt crypto exchange FTX, whose founder Sam Bankman-Fried is in jail awaiting trial on criminal charges. Ethereum blockchain transaction data shows that after the auction, "Sotheby's transferred the lot of BAYC NFTs to wallet address 0xf8e0C93Fd48B4C34A4194d3AF436b13032E641F3,77 which, upon information and belief, is owned/controlled by FTX," the complaint said. Speculation that FTX was the buyer had been percolating since at least January 2023. The lawsuit alleges that Yuga Labs and Sotheby's violated the California Unfair Competition Law, the California Corporate Securities Law, the US Securities Exchange Act, and the California Corporations Code. The plaintiffs also claim that Sotheby's Metaverse, an NFT trading platform opened after the auction, "operated (or attempted to operate) as an unregistered broker of securities."
"Sotheby's representations that the undisclosed buyer was a 'traditional' collector had misleadingly created the impression that the market for BAYC NFTs had crossed over to a mainstream audience," the lawsuit claimed. Lawsuit plaintiffs say that harmed investors bought the NFTs "with a reasonable expectation of profit from owning them." Sotheby's sold a lot of 101 Bored Ape NFTs for $24.4 million at its "Ape In!" auction in September 2021, well above the pre-auction estimates of $12 million to $18 million. That's an average price of over $241,000, but Bored Ape NFTs now sell for a floor price of about $50,000 worth of ether cryptocrurrency, according to CoinGecko data accessed today. [...]
The amended lawsuit alleges that "[Bored Ape creator Yuga Labs] colluded with fine arts broker, Defendant Sotheby's, to run a deceptive auction." After the sale, a Sotheby's representative described the winning bidder during a Twitter Spaces event as a "traditional" collector, the lawsuit said. The lawsuit said it turned out the auction buyer was now-bankrupt crypto exchange FTX, whose founder Sam Bankman-Fried is in jail awaiting trial on criminal charges. Ethereum blockchain transaction data shows that after the auction, "Sotheby's transferred the lot of BAYC NFTs to wallet address 0xf8e0C93Fd48B4C34A4194d3AF436b13032E641F3,77 which, upon information and belief, is owned/controlled by FTX," the complaint said. Speculation that FTX was the buyer had been percolating since at least January 2023. The lawsuit alleges that Yuga Labs and Sotheby's violated the California Unfair Competition Law, the California Corporate Securities Law, the US Securities Exchange Act, and the California Corporations Code. The plaintiffs also claim that Sotheby's Metaverse, an NFT trading platform opened after the auction, "operated (or attempted to operate) as an unregistered broker of securities."
help! (Score:5, Funny)
Help! I paid too much for a link to a jpeg! Its all *your* fault.
Re:help! (Score:5, Funny)
A link to a jpeg of a cartoon ape.
Because that's so much more valuable than a link to a jpeg of my cat.
I don't even have a cat!
And that's your fault, too. Where's my damned cat?
Re:help! (Score:5, Funny)
A link to a jpeg of a cartoon ape.
People are so dumb.
JPEGs are for photos. PNGs are for cartoons.
Re: help! (Score:2)
Re: help! (Score:5, Funny)
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A link to a jpeg of a cartoon ape.
People are so dumb.
Yep, sadly for stupid people it's never their fault.
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JPEGs are for photos. PNGs are for cartoons.
PNGs are for cartoons without gradients. JPEGs are for cartoons with gradients.
Whatever it is, if it makes a smaller PNG than a JPEG (at similar quality) then it must not be very complicated.
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People are so dumb.
But . . . blockchain! Aha. Checkmate.
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Using one file format vs another makes them stupid but shelling out $200k for a cartoon ape doesn't?
Holy shit I often criticise you for being dumb given your username, but you're so dumb you can't even laugh at an obvious joke? What's wrong with you.
Re: help! (Score:2)
Why not ask ChatGPT to be your cat?
Re: help! (Score:4, Informative)
"The cat is a large African hoofed mammal belonging to the genus Giraffa. It is the tallest living terrestrial animal and the largest ruminant on Earth. Traditionally, cats were thought to be one species, Giraffa camelopardalis, with nine subspecies." --chatgpt having hallucinations again
I'm not sure how I'd feed my 18 foot tall cat.
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Don't you dare question the wisdom of the all-knowing trash heap!
Now rip out the ceiling and combine two floors of your house to accommodate your poor widdle kitty!
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Since my house is one story ripping out 2 stories would make sense to chatgpt.
Re: help! (Score:4, Funny)
I'm not sure how I'd feed my 18 foot tall cat.
Don't worry. An 18 foot tall cat will find a way to feed itself.
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Lol, this is true, great point, I'm going to go find a place to hide from my cat now.
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chatgpt having hallucinations again
Microsoft AI must have been eating the same stuff. It recently recommended food banks as a must see destination in Canada [arstechnica.com].
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Oh, you wanted a Cat and not an Ape? Well, here ya go:
https://www.cryptokitties.co/ [cryptokitties.co]
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Best to buy while the price is still high!
https://www.cryptokitties.co/k... [cryptokitties.co]
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Omg, please stop! I can't afford a $250k link!
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Make good use of 80% discount! They go for only $50K now.
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It's not what you pay that matters, it's what you pay less!
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People buying blockchain entries of links to servers that display jpegs of bot-created cartoon apes discover these are bad investments and sue.
Who saw that coming?
Like, everybody not in the NFT echo chamber?
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I should have been a lawyer but my lawyer relative talked me out of it. Getting paid to deal with this sort of hilarity would have been great.
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(Snerk at file format tiff)
Anyways, they aren't even pictures of something like your cat or individually drawn.
Instead, they're a link to a computer based generator that basically goes: "This hat, these teeth, hair color/pattern, earrings, nose(with/without ring or something else), this watch/wrist accessory, etc..."
It's basically Mr. Potato Head. Mix and match to get what you want.
So you have one or more people just drawing a bunch of hats, grins, eyes/glasses, etc... Then mix randomly and sell.
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It's stupid that people bought these things but a brilliant business model if you're on the seller side. A sucker born every minute mixed with a healthy dose of FOMO and the inevitable price crash and we get lawsuits over tulips, I mean bored apes.
Print it out and put it above your couch (Score:2)
All your friends will be jealously taking pictures of it.
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Wait, what? My link came with friends too? Awesome!
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If money can buy anything, it can buy friends...
Re:Print it out and put it above your couch (Score:5, Insightful)
Sorry, but friends work like those NFTs. You can buy them, but all you get is the pretense of having them.
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Over here we call them employees/maids/house staff.
Re: help! (Score:2)
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not the junk (*rolls eyes*) you bought before.
Who said it's junk? Bored ape yacht club NFT's are still being for sale right now, and prices are like 50,000 USD and upwards.
Re: help! (Score:2)
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Yes! And you did not disclose in 2021 that the buyer would go to jail in 2023 - which somehow would not have made me buy overpriced jpegs
JPG Junk (Score:2)
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"Why is this junk still selling for 50 k?"
Because somebody is buying it at 50k.
The world has never been short of idiots.
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Claim has rational statement in it: it was misleading to present company, set for crypto speculations, as a traditional collector.
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They said the buyer was "a traditional collector" and "the buyer" is sueing now?
How can any disclosure about a transaction made after the end of the transaction (that's when you know who the buyer at an auction is) can effect that auction?
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You'll have to investigate details - it may have had effect on future deals, once statement about traditional collector was provided to public, setting appropriate expectations on the value of particular investment.
Re:help! (Score:4, Insightful)
Well of course. Unreasonable arguments don't have to be made *entirely* out of unreasonable ideas. In fact there are people who are professionally trained to make unreasonable arguments *completely* from reasonable ideas. They're called "lawyers".
Lawyers aren't allowed to tell simple, counterfactual lies, but they are *expected* to build misleading, cherry-picked, one-sided and self-serving arguments from whatever stock of true statements available to them. It's the *other* lawyer's job to point out they're full of shit, which in this case won't be hard.
Always blame someone else (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Always blame someone else (Score:5, Insightful)
Idiots should be required to accept the results of their stupidity and speculators that lose should have to accept that they were fooled
That's not how being rich works though
Re: Always blame someone else (Score:2)
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Idiots should be required to accept the results of their stupidity and speculators that lose should have to accept that they were fooled
That's not how being rich works though
It "works" because the rich don't end up with their head on a pike when they abuse others for gain.
Not quite sure when that tradition stopped. Probably when the hypocrite victim wanted to start investing in those same gains...
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Not enough people are hungry yet.
It's more and more of them every day, though.
Many states would like to not even have programs like SNAP and TANF, but the feds force them, because they are much smarter and know about torches and pitchforks.
Re:Always blame someone else (Score:5, Interesting)
I am in 2 minds about it sure to me sure NFTs where dumb, really dumb and people should pay for the consequences of their dumbness.
However people shouldn't be able to just get away with ripping off people, we are all dumb sometimes, and they should also get punished. Sotheby made money off these scams they didn't care, they got their commission. I don't think that is acceptable behavior that should be condoned by society.
Perhaps they should be fined 3 times their commission and that should go to a charity.
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Well, it is true, Sotheby's misrepresented buyer. FTX is NOT and was NOT a "traditional investor". It's about claiming, that such hype did set foot in general public demand - not in that case.
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Well, to be exact, article repeats multiple times "traditional", while it is preceding next words "collector", "buyer", but not "investor" in particular. As this appears to be claimed of importance, the case should be examined as it is worded and reasoned in the lawsuit. At this point we are getting information already generalized for publishing. Still, the core of the claim is depicted well enough: picturing crypto speculator as traditional collector/buyer/investor is misleading.
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Well I think NFT are a pretty clever way to automatically trade non-tangible goods like the movie rights to a novel or the right to collect royalities for a song. The same way like a credit card or mobile NFC payments with your phone and Apple/Google Wallet are a great idea because they make it easy buying a movie or a plane ticket.
However, thinking that something is valueable because you use a certain technology to buy it, is outright stupid!
And I'm sorry if that will hurt anyones feelings, but the people
Re: Always blame someone else (Score:2)
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Or to put it differently... (Score:5, Funny)
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You're completely right. But with that said, I'm still OK with the sellers getting soaked through lawsuits too. In fact, they should just keep suing each other until they all run out of money, to keep the lawyers busy and not harming legitimate people and businesses.
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Yeah... think the lawyer is working on a % of recovery basis or retainer?
How many things in the whole summary should make a logical person say... WTF?! BTW, that isn't 'Where are The Funds?'
Haha suckers realize they been had (Score:5, Insightful)
and they blame someone else for their own stupidity. What a shocker...
Guess what: the rest of us with a couple working neurons looked at NFTs - or cryptocurrencies in general - and thought "You know what? That looks like a scam..." and gave it a hard pass.
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and they blame someone else for their own stupidity. What a shocker...
It's a bit of like suing after the carnival has already packed up and left town.
Got them on the DL (Score:2)
You mean to tell me that all the Bored Ape NFTs that I right-click-downloaded aren't actually worth anything?! How do I sue them for wasting my PC's storage space?
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How do I sue them for wasting my PC's storage space?
What storage space? [slashdot.org]
Caveat Emptor (Score:2)
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Wait, what, blockchain?
This auction involves blockchain?
Take my money! Please! Blockchaaaaaiiinnnnn!!!!
As the saying goes... (Score:3)
NFT's a bad investment? Say it ain't so! (Score:2)
mind boggling (Score:4, Insightful)
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I wouldn't say NFT are a scam, but I have never seen NFTs used for anything but scams.
Re:mind boggling (Score:4, Insightful)
I wouldn't say NFT are a scam
Why not? Can you point to any possible use of NFTs that isn't scammy?
The only vaguely-reasonable example I've seen is that of ownership titles, like those used for real estate and vehicles. In theory, NFTs could be used to track ownership of physical property while avoiding the overhead of a government-operated registry. In practice, titles are really only relevant when there are disputes over ownership, so the real value of any titling system is in how well it can interoperate with the mechanism used to resolve disputes. As long as the final arbiters of disputes are government-operated courts, it's hard to see how any titling system can work as well as a government agency.
And courts are always going to be the final arbiters of disputes. People natter on endlessly about the power of smart contracts to self-execute, obsoleting expensive, slow legalistic processes, but the fact is that smart contracts suck. Their fundamental problem is that they're written in code that executes on a computer. Code simply cannot model the real world accurately, because the real world is too messy, too complex, to be boiled down to a simple set of logical statements. There will always be corner cases that the programmer didn't anticipate, ways in which strictly executing the contract as written would be unfair and would violate contract law, so there will always be a need for recourse to the courts, where a human judge can examine the totality of the situation and make a decision consistent with law and fairness -- and one that is enforced by the state.
As for intellectual property, which is what NFTs are allegedly used for, they simply don't work at all for that case, because IP is different from physical property. It's far more complex and fuzzier, which is why BYAC and other vendors of NFTs actually retain ownership of the IP and instead define a nebulous, unenforceable and, in a word, scammy, notion of "ownership" which has little to no legal meaning. And if the problem with using NFTs to manage physical property is unanticipated complexity, then the far trickier world of intellectual property makes them completely inappropriate.
So... if they don't work for physical property and they don't work for intellectual property as normally, legally, defined, what do they work for? Scams. That's it, AFAICT.
Same as WATA (Score:2)
I saw this and thought it sounds exactly like that $2M Super Mario cartridge sale and equally stupid valuations on Pawn Stars where the buyer, the seller and the valuer all appeared to be working together to inflate prices and get publicity. I just did a search for WATA and sure enough that exact sale is also involved in a lawsuit:
https://www.videogameschronicl... [videogameschronicle.com]
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Retro gaming valuation and auction services have long been exposed as a scam. People associated with them have been caught auctioning their own games at stupid prices just so they can put out press releases proclaiming the skyrocketing value of games. And then the idiots come swarming in to use the valuation services and to buy games and create a speculative derp bubble.
Wrong use of terms makes this extremely confusing (Score:2)
If you think that's funny... (Score:2)
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No they don't. They have a theoretical value tied to the theoretical value of an imaginary currency. This value only exists until somebody attempts to realise it into actual money, at which point it evaporates because anybody who isn't a fucking idiot or a fraudster is steering well clear. It's essentially like when Amazon has something listed at a ridiculous price that nobody is ever going to pay, which they sometimes do when something is out of stock but they want to keep their inventory list looking good
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Yes, but there is no evidence that there currently is anybody willing to pay it. If there were this lawsuit probably wouldn't exist. The people bringing the lawsuit are the ones at the bottom of the pyramid, all those above made their cash by finding enough marks willing to pay for this nonsense. These people thought they could do the same but have been proven wrong, hence their 'assets' have no value.
It's the same with the supposed value of all crypto nonsense. It has a small value while it can be used for
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Being the last moron in the chain who bought an NFT for 10,000s doesn't mean that's their value if there is no one stupid enough to pay that any more.
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I used to buy into the argument that anything can be art if you call it art, until I saw a Bored Ape NFT. No, just no!
re-read that and feel the IQ points draining away (Score:2)
If you are an investor, and you have your lawyers write something like "...Sotheby's auction duped investors by giving the Bored Ape NFTs "an air of legitimacy... to generate investors' interest and hype around the Bored Ape brand," then you MUST be an absolute moron who has no business investing in anything. Bury your money in a jar in the backyard or stuff it into your mattress... you'll get no interest or dividends, but you clearly lack any understanding of how to pick a wise investment and your capitol
So the reason nfts took off (Score:2, Informative)
If you ever wonder why th
Magilla Gorilla prophesized the answer (Score:2)
All auctions are a gamble. (Score:2)
Sorry, folks (Score:3)
The legal system is here to protect you from others' malice, not from your own stupidity.
At least it shouldn't be.
Well duh (Score:3)
Anyone with a functioning brain should have realised that "investing" in a randomly generated image was a fucking moronic idea. Doesn't excuse people operating this massive scam or any celeb / influencer who chose to front it.
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I think it's pretty amazing I lived to see the people who slabbed 'investment grade' collectible coins with ambiguous grading and tried to turn them into commodities were actually honest businessmen in comparison to these jokers.
gamble at the casino... (Score:2)
then sue the casino when you lose ??
is that how this works ??
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"In the time of NFTs they stole my monkey" (Score:2)
Couldn't find a bigger sucker, speculators sue! (Score:2)
Reasonable expectation (Score:2)
"...plaintiffs say that harmed investors bought the NFTs "with a reasonable expectation of profit from owning them."
Hahaha
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Youknowingly bought shit (Score:2)
Here's my 5 cents (Score:2)
And that's about what they are worth.
Suckers...
What? (Score:2)
Buyer's remorse (Score:2)
So you bought something and greedily thought you'd be on the cutting edge and get rich but didn't? Tough shit.
I can sell a rock from my backyard for a million dollars. If you buy it then good on me and it was your choice.
Morons of the 2nd order (Score:3)
Not only stupid, but also in denial about their own stupidity and convinced somebody else _must_ be at fault. Auctions of this types come with assurance of the item being genuine, but not of it having any value whatsoever. You bet, you win, it is your problem.
Re: 100 ETH isn't a small amount... (Score:5, Funny)
A story:
Guy calls his broker: "get me 10,000 shares of this XXXX stock!"
Broker says "I've never heard of it, but OK!"
Next day, XXXX has doubled in price. Guy thinks he's found a hot one. Calls broker:
"Get me 100,000 more shares of XXXX!"
Broker: "that's unwise, but OK!"
Next day, XXXX is trading at 10x its starting valuation. Guy wants to take his profit and get out. Calls broker:
"Sell all my XXXX!"
Broker: "To WHO? You're the only one buying!"
There's a reason these BAYC have any valuation at all, and it's not from demand....
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There's a reason these BAYC have any valuation at all, and it's not from demand....
Good joke. I don't know what BAYC is, but I'm pretty sure it's for imBAYCiles...
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I don't know what BAYC is
First sentence of the TFS. Take note of capitalised words ;-)
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Just because someone is selling at these prices doesn't mean anyone is buying them. And if there are, then more fool them.
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