'Hit the Kill Switch': How Uber Used Covert Tech to Thwart Government Raids (msn.com) 85
The Washington Post shares details from "a trove of more than 124,000 previously undisclosed Uber records." For example, in 2015 Uber CEO Travis Kalanick often pulled an emergency kill switch on its data — that is, "ordered the computer systems in Amsterdam cut off from Uber's internal network, making data inaccessible to authorities as they raided its European headquarters, documents show."
"Please hit the kill switch ASAP," Kalanick had emailed, ordering a subordinate to block the office laptops and other devices from Uber's internal systems. "Access must be shut down in AMS," referring to Amsterdam. Uber's use of what insiders called the "kill switch" was a brazen example of how the company employed technological tools to prevent authorities from successfully investigating the company's business practices as it disrupted the global taxi industry, according to the documents.
During this era, as Uber's valuation was surging past $50 billion, government raids occurred with such frequency that the company distributed a Dawn Raid Manual to employees on how to respond. It ran more than 2,600 words with 66 bullet points. They included "Move the Regulators into a meeting room that does not contain any files" and "Never leave the Regulators alone."
That document, like the text and email exchanges related to the Amsterdam raid, are part of the Uber Files, an 18.7-gigabyte trove of data obtained by the Guardian and shared with the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, a nonprofit newsroom in Washington that helped lead the project, and dozens of other news organizations, including The Washington Post. The files, spanning 2013 to 2017, include 83,000 emails and other communications, presentations and direct messages. They show that Uber developed extensive systems to confound official inquiries, going well past what has been known about its efforts to trip up regulators, government inspectors and police. Far from simply developing software to connect drivers and customers seeking rides, Uber leveraged its technological capabilities in many cases to gain a covert edge over authorities....
According to the documents and interviews with former employees, the company used a program called Greyball to keep authorities from hailing cars — and potentially impounding them and arresting their drivers. It used a technology called "geofencing" that, based on location data, blocked ordinary use of the app near police stations and other places where authorities might be working. And it used corporate networking management software to remotely cut computers' access to network files after they had been seized by authorities.... Greyball was created as a fraud-fighting tool to limit scammers' access to the app, a former executive said, and was at times used to frustrate violent Uber opponents hunting drivers. But Uber operations executives took control of the program and redeployed it against the government, former employees said.
The International Consortium of Investigative Journalists describes their trove of documents as "the secret story of how the tech giant won access to world leaders, cozied up to oligarchs and dodged taxes amid chaotic global expansion."
During this era, as Uber's valuation was surging past $50 billion, government raids occurred with such frequency that the company distributed a Dawn Raid Manual to employees on how to respond. It ran more than 2,600 words with 66 bullet points. They included "Move the Regulators into a meeting room that does not contain any files" and "Never leave the Regulators alone."
That document, like the text and email exchanges related to the Amsterdam raid, are part of the Uber Files, an 18.7-gigabyte trove of data obtained by the Guardian and shared with the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, a nonprofit newsroom in Washington that helped lead the project, and dozens of other news organizations, including The Washington Post. The files, spanning 2013 to 2017, include 83,000 emails and other communications, presentations and direct messages. They show that Uber developed extensive systems to confound official inquiries, going well past what has been known about its efforts to trip up regulators, government inspectors and police. Far from simply developing software to connect drivers and customers seeking rides, Uber leveraged its technological capabilities in many cases to gain a covert edge over authorities....
According to the documents and interviews with former employees, the company used a program called Greyball to keep authorities from hailing cars — and potentially impounding them and arresting their drivers. It used a technology called "geofencing" that, based on location data, blocked ordinary use of the app near police stations and other places where authorities might be working. And it used corporate networking management software to remotely cut computers' access to network files after they had been seized by authorities.... Greyball was created as a fraud-fighting tool to limit scammers' access to the app, a former executive said, and was at times used to frustrate violent Uber opponents hunting drivers. But Uber operations executives took control of the program and redeployed it against the government, former employees said.
The International Consortium of Investigative Journalists describes their trove of documents as "the secret story of how the tech giant won access to world leaders, cozied up to oligarchs and dodged taxes amid chaotic global expansion."
Re:So? (Score:5, Informative)
Some of it is ordinarily legal, some of it is clearly always illegal, and all of it is illegal if it's done during the commission of a crime, or for the purposes of covering one up.
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Some of it is ordinarily legal, some of it is clearly always illegal, and all of it is illegal if it's done during the commission of a crime, or for the purposes of covering one up.
Complete and utter bullshit.
First of all, what's legal and not depends on the jurisdiction.
Second, cutting off access to company networks once a device is out of company control is not only common practice, but a basic security measure.
Third, blocking off access near police stations? What's illegal about that? Have you ever seen a prostitute working next to a police station?
âoeIf a raid by a supervisor or economic investigator has already begun, and it has been made clear that copies of records are being requested, a company may no longer intervene by making them inaccessible,â said Brendan Newitt, of De Roos & Pen Lawyers in the Netherlands. âoeThe same applies if regular investigators have already started, for example, a computer or network search to obtain the records.â
Right, Brendan clearly has no clue, and should return his attorney's license. Having a search warrant for a particular building d
Uber broke the Taxi monopoly laws; Overdue (Score:2)
Uber ran illegal taxis that broke the taxi laws. Fundamentally illegal.
But long, long overdue. The owners of taxi licenses are rent seekers, they rarely drive taxis, and the effect was to make taxis unavailable at peak times.
Politically, states could not crack down on Uber or they would lose elections. Uber used new technology to get in fast before vested interests could react.
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"Uber ran illegal taxis that broke the taxi laws. Fundamentally illegal."
That's an 'opinion' until a judge has ruled and none has.
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>Third, blocking off access near police stations? What's illegal about that?
>> Some of it is ordinarily legal
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A search warrant rubber stamped by a rechter-commissaris in The Netherlands does not apply to U.S. data centers, or networks or computers located in the U.S.
The long arm of the law is a lot longer than you realize.
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The long arm of the law is a lot longer than you realize.
The length of that arm is determined by its jurisdiction.
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"Some of it is ordinarily legal, some of it is clearly always illegal, and all of it is illegal if it's done during the commission of a crime, or for the purposes of covering one up."
When the warrant is put into your hands ans after, not a moment earlier.
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When the warrant is put into your hands ans after, not a moment earlier.
No, that is absolutely not the standard. The standard is that if you did something knowing you committed a crime and for the purposes of hiding evidence, which is precisely what was happening, then what you did to cover it up was also criminal. No warrant has to be involved.
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When the warrant is put into your hands ans after, not a moment earlier.
No, that is absolutely not the standard. The standard is that if you did something knowing you committed a crime and for the purposes of hiding evidence, which is precisely what was happening, then what you did to cover it up was also criminal. No warrant has to be involved.
All the taxi corporations have not yet managed to find a judge corrupt enough to declare Uber's business model illegal, and not for lack of trying, so how the heck would Uber be "knowingly committing a crime"?
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All the taxi corporations have not yet managed to find a judge corrupt enough to declare Uber's business model illegal
Uber's business model has been declared illegal in multiple venues, and they have made substantial changes to the way they did business in those places — putting the lie to their claims that they cannot do so and still operate.
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Some of it is ordinarily legal, some of it is clearly always illegal, and all of it is illegal if it's done during the commission of a crime, or for the purposes of covering one up.
You mean like the "crime" of being a disruptive company that upsets the monopoly of taxis? And the nice extortion ring the govts have set up with them, selling medallions and the like, to the detriment of people actually using the cab service?
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You mean like the "crime" of being a disruptive company that upsets the monopoly of taxis?
Putting "crime" in quotes doesn't change the definition of a crime, which is that it's an unlawful act punishable by a state or other authority.
And the nice extortion ring the govts have set up with them, selling medallions and the like, to the detriment of people actually using the cab service?
I don't dispute that the existing taxi services enjoy an unfair monopoly position. Yet it's also true that having an excess of cabs, or unlicensed cabs, also causes problems. Uber does solve some problems, but it also creates problems.
Re:So? (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not destroying evidence, completely legal.
Or... it's obstruction, completely illegal. Depends on the specific circumstances.
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It's not destroying evidence, completely legal.
Or... it's obstruction, completely illegal. Depends on the specific circumstances.
Exactly. When I was doing power plant inspections, we had a strict schedule for destruction of all working papers. Once teh final report was written and reviewed with the plant, all working papers were collected and destroyed. Since it was a routine record keeping action it was not obstruction of justice; if we learned we may be sued over an inspection prior to destroying tehm, our lawyer got all the working papers.
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But completely immoral and unethical. But that doesn't seem to count for much nowadays.
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"But completely immoral and unethical."
Exactly, you got it, both of those are legal.
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It's like putting your safe on rails and sliding it over an international border when you hear the cops coming. Super illegal for physical stuff, probably also illegal for electronic but more fun for the lawyers to argue over.
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It's like putting your safe on rails and sliding it over an international border when you hear the cops coming. Super illegal for physical stuff, probably also illegal for electronic but more fun for the lawyers to argue over.
Not necessarily illegal. We once had an inspection team notified they were to be subpoenaed so they ran to teh airport and flew back before the sheriff came. We then turned over all the papers to the lawyer to accept service and sort out what to turn over.
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"It's like putting your safe on rails and sliding it over an international border when you hear the cops coming. Super illegal for physical stuff, probably also illegal for electronic but more fun for the lawyers to argue over."
More like a foreigner, in a foreign country with a different justice system, pulling the safe to his side.
What's bad about it? (Score:5, Informative)
They included "Move the Regulators into a meeting room that does not contain any files" and "Never leave the Regulators alone."
Not that I would ever let law enforcement into my house without a warrant, but this is sound advice for everyone including those not engaged in any type of illegal activity.
Re:What's bad about it? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Are you opposed to lobbying in general, or only from entities you don't like ?
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Are you opposed to lobbying in general, or only from entities you don't like ?
Do you love false dichotomies or shagging goats?
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Re: What's bad about it? (Score:1)
Hence why people and companies are moving out of Amsterdam complaining about the lack of access to the center and rising crime, causing businesses to close.
Public transportation is great for people at the lower end of the income range. Amsterdam has (soon: had) a large financial district that doesnâ(TM)t want to have clients and workers travel an extra 2 hours on unsafe public transportation to get to their offices.
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Amsterdam has one of the most idyllic, affordable, accessible public transportation infrastructure in the world. It hardly seems any more 'corrupt" to preserve this, the livelihoods that depend on it, and the culture of the city, than to take the measures they have to insinuate themselves into the system. The term "progress" is pretty subjective.
I wonder how, in your worldview, you explain away people using Uber in Amsterdam. Doublethink? Masochism? Or the usual leftist "I know better what's good for them than they do"?
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American tourists who a scared of public transport.
Re: What's bad about it? (Score:3)
Didn't read the actual article but there isn't anything new here that pretty much every well run global business hasn't done in the last... 100+ years? Most companies naturally do this because their ops are decoupled per legal jurisdiction. It's normally a lot of work to tie them beyond quarterly level reporting. We aren't talking about unofficial books or something illegal here.
These are safe guards to keep regulators from getting more than they are asking for. It's not illegal nor immortal to provide
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but there isn't anything new here that pretty much every well run global business hasn't done in the last... 100+ years?
"Murders were happening centuries ago so they can't be *that* bad, right?"
Re: What's bad about it? (Score:2)
You are missing the point. Murder was bad than too... so not the same thing.
Example: If the IRS audits you for 2 specific years, don't be giving them the entire Tax document cabinet. Just because that later ended up on CDs or Tape doesn't mean you give them your entire archive... Just give them what they asked for.
Just because your business is global and your accounting is centralized and interconnected... doesn't mean you give them access to your Australian accounts. Nor the Europeans access to your US
Re: What's bad about it? (Score:2)
Re:What's bad about it? (Score:5, Interesting)
They included "Move the Regulators into a meeting room that does not contain any files" and "Never leave the Regulators alone."
Not that I would ever let law enforcement into my house without a warrant, but this is sound advice for everyone including those not engaged in any type of illegal activity.
Having worked as a regulator, that is good advice. If I wanted a file I'd simply ask for. If they refused, I assumed they are hiding something which just meant I had to dig deeper. Except for our own internal deliberations, I welcomed plant staff to follow me around. It gave me a chance to ask them questions, get their input on what they saw, and once they were used to me being around they would fall back into their work habits and I could see what actually was how they worked, not the dog and pony show they would put on at first.
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I'm genuinely curious, have you in your time come across a company that let you just run around unsupervised or didn't direct you to a meeting room while they got their lawyers on the phone?
I'm asking because this was the SOP at every company I've ever worked for. > Direct regulators to a meeting room, get legal on the phone. Ideally have two different people do that so legal can get out even faster.
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I'm genuinely curious, have you in your time come across a company that let you just run around unsupervised or didn't direct you to a meeting room while they got their lawyers on the phone?
Actually, yes. But it was different than say teh SEC coming to crack down on you. We worked in an industrial setting where plants ran 24x7. We'd show up unannounced at 2 am, for example, to observe the mid shift. We had free run of the facility.
I'm asking because this was the SOP at every company I've ever worked for. > Direct regulators to a meeting room, get legal on the phone. Ideally have two different people do that so legal can get out even faster.
When we came, it was for inspection, not enforcement. That was a different dynamic.
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because it is against the law most of the time (Score:4, Insightful)
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We now need: The Google Files The Tesla / Boring Company / SpaceX Files The Amazon Files The JP Morgan Chase Files
Looks like evidence to me (Score:2)
And it looks like solid ground for a RICO case
Re: Looks like evidence to me (Score:4, Funny)
Yes because RICO is a Dutch law.
Re: Looks like evidence to me (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, RICO is a US law. And can be prosecuted in the US for actions undertaken in a foreign country especially if directed/operated on from the US. From TFA:
“The procedure was, if you have law enforcement, you try to buy time by greeting them, and call San Francisco,” said one of Uber’s former lawyers in Europe, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the tactics. “Even if it was 2 a.m. in San Francisco, there were people who were supposed to react.”
It's a DIRECT violation of US anti-corruption law to obstruct foreign law enforcement.
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“The procedure was, if you have law enforcement, you try to buy time by greeting them, and call San Francisco,” said one of Uber’s former lawyers in Europe, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the tactics. “Even if it was 2 a.m. in San Francisco, there were people who were supposed to react.”
Errr no. This is standard operating practice at any company in the world. If you experience a dawn raid, direct the regulators to a meeting room and contact legal who will almost certainly have people on call 24/7 back in the home country.
I've worked for many companies over the years, and the only difference between them is to what level they spelled this process out specifically in internal training. It's also not against the law to get lawyers involved in any raids, it's a minimum expectation.
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Get lawyers involved, sure. Knowingly request data access be cut off... No. Not SOP.
I just finished yet another tedious corporate anti-corruption annual training (most companies have them done by a third party).
The cutoff, as outlined in the article, IS specifically called out as a romper-room no-no and a violation of US anti-corruption law.
Since Uber seems to think it's A-OK and has done it multiple times, they definitely look to be a corrupt organization... And given other practices, like racketeers henc
Criminal corporation crimes... (Score:2)
This isn't surprising. (Score:2)
They continue to violate labor law (Score:4, Insightful)
Still even if you're retired I would worry about it unless you're on your deathbed. We are really screwing over Gen M and Z. They're increasingly turning the violence. There were a couple of mass shootings during the 4th of July but these days there are so many mass shootings that people putting off fireworks was enough to cause crowds to stampede.
We're going to have more and more violence. And yeah when they come to crack your skull in you'll probably shoot the first couple batches of them but the third or fourth batch is going to put a slug in your arm and you won't be able to hold your rifle. and the fifth or six batch is going to be the one that gets you. Doesn't seem like the way I'd want to go. Never mind what they're going to do to your family. Plus eventually the public at large will demand a dictator like Joseph Stalin or Vladimir Putin take charge and deal with the crime. And that never ends well
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I will not use uber and wouldn't piss on these asshats if they were on fire.
Good call. I've heard that heated urine smells atrocious.
No good guys here (Score:3)
Re: No good guys here (Score:1)
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Re:No good guys here (Score:4, Interesting)
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Let's just prosecute each as evidence appears.
"But everybody does it" isn't a great excuse.
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The cabbie driver medallion system needs disruption badly.
The famous cabbie driver medallion system of Amsterdam?
Re: No good guys here (Score:4, Funny)
Everyone just copies America. They even named their city after New York.
Greasy behavior at the executive level? (Score:2)
Kill switch (Score:4, Insightful)
They implemented a kill switch to evade authorities and then invoked it by e-mail?
Someone in the press doesn't like Uber. (Score:1)
Every headline I see is about how they are bad people, doing bad things that bigger corporations do, but Uber does it because it's evil.
Maybe they just don't like German words and that's why they attack them.
Corporate has this clue "Don't talk to the Police" (Score:2)
But this is actively blocking the police (Score:2)
If after a warrant has been served act to obstruct the collection of evidence in the site being searched, you are unambiguously obstructing the course of justice.
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Anyone that thinks this is slimy, well, it is, but why should anyone help get themselves in trouble?
No, this is not slimy, this is the best advice ever you can give to *anyone* under *any* circumstances, period. Yes, anyone. Yes, *any* circumstances. Including - no, not just including, *ESPECIALLY* - when you are completely innocent of any crime whatsoever. If you don't know why, here's a video you NEED to watch. [youtube.com]
Backdoor subpoena process (Score:2)
The traditional regulatory approach is to go to a court and obtain a subpoena for content you want. This would give the entity the chance to contest parts of it before a neutral judge.
A physical raid doesn't have that procedural nicety, which is why regulators that don't have a strong claim to all the data they want prefer it -- they can get a raid signed off for data set X and then seize X & Y that they wouldn't be entitled to ahead of time.
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However the subject doesn't get to contest a warrant.
The article is unclear, but these appear to be raids with warrant in hand.
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The point he's making, is that raids like this are abused. You have someone on your staff who has been viewing child porn via the work office. I get a warrant for that individual. We do a raid. Arrest him. And we seize every single computer in your office, so we can take all the info we wanted that we could not get a warrant for.
This is par for the course, sadly....
"Kill Switch" was not in Super Pumped! (Score:3)
But Greyball etc. were.
You can watch the first episode online:
https://www.sho.com/super-pump... [sho.com]
There are a total of seven episodes, though you only need the first episode to understand Uber.
Uber's market cap in July 2022 is: $44.65 Billion.
Which is quite a fall from the $500 billion valuation they had in 2015. But don't feel sorry for the VCs, founders and some early employees, they did just fine....
Sounds like an organized conspiracy to me (Score:1)
If anything they did was illegal and they are covering it up, then that's a conspiracy.
Clock is ticking. 4 years from the last date of damages or illegal actions I think.
Move regulators into meeting room (Score:2)
, and never leave them alone. ... I have another name for this process: "Standard Operating Practice At Every Company"
I like this, more please (Score:2)
I like this, more please. Anytime tech, especially encryption is used to thwart the government or supposed "authorities with small penises".
More of this asap. Weaponize computers, after all we can still write our own code so they belong to us.
They kind of had no choice (Score:2)
Taxi's were a corrupt cartel model that many governments benefited from at the suffrage of the citizenry.
Uber leveraged technology to upturn that dynamic, providing better service at cheaper prices with greater ease and availability. Of course, this hurt the wallets of many cities. Should an Uber-driver require a million dollar limited token?
No, it should not. Uber was hit with tons of crappy BS investigations. Oh, they're treating their employees as contractors. Um, they are....
- User their own equipme
Gee, what are half of you getting paid? (Score:2)
I mean, supporting a company that LIES about whether it's a taxi company, that LIES about its employees not being employees, that LIES about how much they're getting paid, and deliberately hides information from the authorities?
If you're not getting paid by them, you're pro-crime idiots.
But then, you probably think someone who's had SEVEN bankruptcies is a "great businessman".
Who cares? (Score:1)