Germany's Security Watchdog Finds No Evidence of Censorship In Xiaomi Phones (reuters.com) 28
Germany's federal cybersecurity watchdog, the BSI, did not find any evidence of censorship functions in mobile phones manufactured by China's Xiaomi, a spokesperson said on Thursday. Reuters reports: Lithuania's state cybersecurity body had said in September that Xiaomi phones had a built-in ability to detect and censor terms such as "Free Tibet," "Long live Taiwan independence" or "democracy movement." The BSI started an examination following these accusations, which lasted several months. "As a result, the BSI was unable to identify any anomalies that would require further investigation or other measures," the BSI spokesperson said.
Less worried about possible censorship (Score:2)
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Who ever said anything about censorship? It's been about spying this whole time. The Chinese government is 100% spying on Xiaomi phones across the globe.
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That's what the article is about:
Lithuania's state cybersecurity body had said in September that Xiaomi phones had a built-in ability to detect and censor terms such as "Free Tibet," "Long live Taiwan independence" or "democracy movement." The BSI started an examination following these accusations, which lasted several months. "As a result, the BSI was unable to identify any anomalies that would require further investigation or other measures," the BSI spokesper
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What sufficiently big government isn't?
Though, it raises an interesting point. I think I would rather be spied on by the Chinese government than the E.U. since I do not live in China. Lived I in China, I would have rather been spied upon by the E.U. instead. — The Chinese government can't do much to me.
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Drink much? I care if any government entity is spying on me. To think a foreign government can't do something to you is really naive. If you were a multi billionaire, US citizen then China, Russia, N Korea along with all the "good" governments would all have eyes on you. Most of us have little to actually worry about.
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Yeah would you rather is a dumb childish game my kids play. I would rather be raped by a woman than any man. See how fucking stupid "rather" is?
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No, it isn't; it's an important part of every day adult discourse and strategy to pick the lesser of two evils. If you think that's a childish game you have no idea of the complex decisions people make every day that matter for this world.
No one at an important corporate meeting when someone points out “Rather we downside now than that the company go under.” would reply with your, frankness be, illiterate comprehension that that would mean that downsizing is not without it's negatives.
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No I'm not playing such games. I'm simply pointing out that it's probably better to be spied upon by a foreign government than one's own. You simply seem to lack basic reading comprehension.
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That's what children sometimes to, they make up scenarios. That's the problem. In the real world things are rarely binary choices.
If you had an ounce of independent thinking you wouldn't even play that stupid false dichotomy game, you'd just ask for evidence that Xiaomi is actually spying on people, possibly rendering that scenario moot.
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you had an ounce of independent thinking you wouldn't even play that stupid false dichotomy game,
I never even alleged a dichotomy. I merely said that as an E.U. citizen it's præferabe to be spied upon by China than by the E.U.. Comparing two options does not allege in any way they are the only two options. — Which can be added to the long list of seeming illiteracy and incapability of correctly parsing even the most basic logical syllogisms you seem to posses.
you'd just ask for evidence that Xiaomi is actually spying on people, possibly rendering that scenario moot.
And again, you make the very elementary logical fallacy of absence of evidence being evidence to the contrary. — Obviously these
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Before you have proof that they actually do spy, your preference of who you'd let fuck you is just speculation. It hinges on that assumption that's not based on evidence. That's not the same as saying absence of evidence is evidence to the contrary. That again would be a false dichotomy.
Furthermore you also make the assumption that if there's spying it's only done by one entity. Again, without a basis.
Bott
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1: not A, not B
2: not A, B
3: A, not B
4: A, B
In this case 2 and 3 get combined, leading to 3 possible combinations that are being spied on by neither, being spied on by one or the other, or being spied on by both.
For all we know it's the last scenario which is most likely true anyway. Just because the Chinese government would get your
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But I also noticed that there's an error in the math. It's supposed to be 2^n (not n^2).
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If there be two independent variables, but they are not independent a the issue is what phone to buy.
The assumption is that if I use a phone manufactured in the E.U., that I would be spied upon by the E.U.; if I buy one manufactured in China, I would be spied upon by China. — Few people use two phones.
Thus, under the assumption that I will use exactly one phone made in either power, I have the choice of being spied upon by either, never by none, and never by both.
It is thus my belief that since I live
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The theory is that it's inside of the hardware itself. They all run android but supposed the hardware itself phones home. With what was leaked about the U.S.A. they are definitely pressuring U.S.A.-based manufacturers to do it; the E.U. and China are probably no different.
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In this case though, there is no evidence that anyone is systematically spying on Xiaomi phones.
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In this case though, there is no evidence that anyone is systematically spying on Xiaomi phones
This case isn't about spying at all, it's about claims of auto-censoring.
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uhuh.
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Our famous BSI (Money sink hole) (Score:2)
Because they find nothing does not mean there is nothing. Security is about Possibility rather than Probability
You all got it wrong (Score:1)
People buy Chinese phones because you can put any community maintained ROM on them (or it used to be the case) which you can trust.
BSI is Pro Huawei... all you need to know (Score:2)
They found precisely what they where told to find. Next, they will be telling us "See, China agreed not to spy on us, so everything is OK." What would really be interesting is a detailed financial audit of Arne Schönbohm, leader of the BSI, and members of German parliament. Germany is very likely the most deeply compromised state, by China, in the EU.