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Capitol Riot Suspect Plotted To Sell Stolen Pelosi Laptop To Russian Intelligence, Authorities Say (nbcnews.com) 160

An anonymous reader quotes a report from NBC News: A Pennsylvania woman accused of being one of the Capitol rioters told a former "romantic partner" that she planned to steal a laptop computer from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office and sell it to Russian intelligence, court documents revealed Monday. The woman, Riley June Williams, 22, was on the run, charged with disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds with the intent to disturb a session of Congress and other charges after her former flame turned her in.

"Williams is not in custody," a federal law enforcement officials said Monday afternoon. William's ex, who was described in Special Agent Jonathan Lund's charging document as W1 (witness one), called the FBI and told it that she "intended to send the computer device to a friend in Russia, who then planned to sell the device to SVR, Russia's foreign intelligence service." "According to W1, the transfer of the computer device to Russia fell through for unknown reasons and Williams still has the computer device or destroyed it," the document states. Lund said the device and circumstances of what Williams was doing with it remain under investigation.
The laptop was reported stolen from the conference room on Jan. 6 but was "only used for presentations," according to Pelosi's deputy chief of staff, Drew Hamill.
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Capitol Riot Suspect Plotted To Sell Stolen Pelosi Laptop To Russian Intelligence, Authorities Say

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  • "Patriots" (Score:5, Insightful)

    by OMBad ( 6965950 ) on Monday January 18, 2021 @07:14PM (#60961920)
    There is your example of Trump "Patriots". Like Trump they are just out to make a buck and sell our country to the Russians.
    • It's an example of people who want to watch the world burn.

    • Re: "Patriots" (Score:4, Insightful)

      by t4eXanadu ( 143668 ) on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @09:33AM (#60963770)

      I'm not defending this behavior, it's seditious, but don't generalize. Some may be well-intentioned, but some have clearly been compromised by whatever conspiracy theories they now fervently believe. This is what happens when you take the "us versus them" mentality too far, coupled with "them" being your government. Clearly, some people in government are selfish, power-hungry individuals. This is not evidence of some grand conspiracy. It is a just a sad fact of the human experience.

      I wish these individuals would put effort into being activists to get politicians elected who have their best interests in mind, regardless of political affiliation. I am enough of a realist to know that is unlikely.

  • by hcs_$reboot ( 1536101 ) on Monday January 18, 2021 @07:15PM (#60961922)
    A Russian patriot.
  • by oldgraybeard ( 2939809 ) on Monday January 18, 2021 @07:15PM (#60961924)
    "William's ex, who was described in Special Agent Jonathan Lund's charging document as W1 (witness one), called the FBI and told it that she "intended to send the computer device to a friend in Russia,"

    Few people would truly have the connections to sell a gov laptop to the Russians But then maybe she does have the connections.
    • who's Russian friend is an online friend. IANAL but pretty sure intent matters here though. Just because you're too dumb to successfully commit a crime doesn't mean you get off Scott free.
      • Seems to be how the Trump family avoid some trouble in their attempted collusion. #snark
      • I dunno if her just shooting her mouth off that she was going to do this thing is enough to put her away for, what? Treason? Conspiracy? Espionage? I guess there would have to be some actual attempt to do what she said she planned to do?
        • and with how our Jury system works she'll plea bargain because the alternative is to risk 30 years in jail. Juries often convict on feelings, i.e. if they just plain don't like her they'll cheerfully send her up the river. So nobody's gonna risk that.
    • by Frank Burly ( 4247955 ) on Monday January 18, 2021 @08:24PM (#60962140)
      Once you're in Russia, you can get in touch with the intelligence service just by publicly calling for democratic reforms. Be sure to do so from the ground floor.
    • by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Monday January 18, 2021 @08:30PM (#60962162)

      If you're dumb enough to live stream your crimes on social media then trying to sell stolen government property to Russia isn't exactly a far reach.

    • Maybe the connection was the one who reached out to her first, and encouraged her to steal it in the first place.

    • Few people would truly have the connections to sell a gov laptop to the Russians

      Don't the Russians have teams of people looking throughout the US for people to sell or give them secrets? I don't know, but I assume it couldn't be that hard if she had something they wanted. I bet they won't pay her as much as she is expecting - maybe a nice Russian passport and an apartment in Moscow.

    • Wouldn't be hard to get. Just walk into the Russian embassy and there you go.

      Though the minute your within 100 meters of that embassy, the Feds will be onto you.

    • Few people would truly have the connections to sell a gov laptop to the Russians But then maybe she does have the connections.

      Indeed clearly she doesn't. She was only selling it to a Russian friend. *They* were going to on sell it. I think you massively underestimate just how easy it is to sell something some group is interested in to said group.

    • by SirSlud ( 67381 )

      Yet another person who doesn't understand that espionage is not "James Bond" but just regular people. Every country has scores of people in different walks of life monitoring who is running what up the flag pole. In many instances, those 'whos' are idiots who don't understand the challenge is making sure the owners of the goods don't see it.

    • "Few people would truly have the connections to sell a gov laptop to the Russians"

      How hard is it to reach out to a Russian embassy from a burner phone or email account?

      And she could literally mail it to anywhere in Russia and let them know the tracking # and I'm sure they could intercept it enroute.

    • Few people would truly have the connections to sell a gov laptop to the Russians

      Are you under the illusion that the Russian embassy or consulates are hidden?

  • by gurps_npc ( 621217 ) on Monday January 18, 2021 @07:21PM (#60961942) Homepage

    Just call this number:
    703-482-0623

    They will be quite interested in obtaining what you have. I assure you, they will get back to you very quickly.

  • by VAElynx ( 2001046 ) on Monday January 18, 2021 @07:35PM (#60961986)
    considering it comes from her ex. I'm kinda reminded of an old eastern european joke:

    Ivan calls Misha. "You haven't dropped by for a while! Come for some vodka, pirogi and chess!"
    "I can't."
    "Why?"
    "Oh, I've got a garden to spade."
    "Alright."

    Ivan calls KGB. "Honor to work comrade! Do you know Misha Gavrilovic Petrosjan, born 1938, from Putilovo?"
    "Yes we do comrade. What do you want?"
    "Oh, I've heard he's got a stash of czar's gold hidden in his garden. He's bragged not the devil will find it there."
    "...Thank you, comrade."

    A few days later, Ivan calls Misha. "How are you?"
    "Don't even ask."
    "Did the KGB come?"
    "...Yes."
    "Did they spade up your garden?"
    "Yes."
    "Well then, come drop by for some vodka, chess and pirogi!"
  • by guygo ( 894298 ) on Monday January 18, 2021 @07:42PM (#60962002)

    The Rosenbergs have some advice for you.

  • by GuB-42 ( 2483988 ) on Monday January 18, 2021 @07:42PM (#60962004)

    I think a majority was just there to protest, and went in for the lack of resistance. But among them there may have been:
    - People actually trying to make a coup
    - Russian spies, or any member of some intelligence agency
    - Agitators plotting to give protesters a bad rap by escalating the violence (highly successful if it was the case)
    - Looters, just looking to steal something
    - People who just wanted to show off
    - Passerbys who just wanted to be part of something big, or were just a bit too curious
    - People who just wanted to fight, like hooligans in sports matches
    - Journalists and wannabe journalists

    This is not a conspiracy theory and I am not saying that each group had a representative, but in a riot, many people just take advantage of the crowd for their own deeds. Just look at BLM protests, don't tell me that the people who looted black-owned businesses really were there to protest against police violence on black people. It happens in every protest.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Tough Love ( 215404 )

      I think a majority was just there to protest

      I think a majority was just there to plumb the depths of stupidity. A secondary goal: to see a federal prison from the inside for the next decade.

      • Yeah I agree they are pathetic at being stupid.
        The majority on here on the other hand is so ready to link the events back to the Russians. Don't let the Trumpists out-stupid you guys!

        • Remember the Dune scene where Barron Harkonnen is delighted at bringing down House Atreides? That's Putin and the Capitol. Don't understate the extent to which Putin helped bring it about. Yes, Americans had to be stupid first, but that is just Putin's raw materiel, he knows well what to do with stupidity, just look at what he did to Russia.

          • I would estimate the extent to which Putin helped bring it about to be around hm.. nothing. It is an American domestic affair.
            But thanks for reminding me I wanted to watch that remake.

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    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by jitibex246 ( 7384818 )

      It was proven on fark.com that the looters at the BLM protests were right wing agitators (Proud Boys and a few other Neo-Nzi groups). They were not demonstrators! The insurrectionists at the Capitol were right wingers who were looking to overthrow the government. They had a guillotine set up and had zip ties that were to be used to kidnap the politicians. You cannot compare them to justified protesters.
      --
      www.fark.com/politics

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by BlackBilly ( 7624958 )

        It was proven on fark.com that the looters at the BLM protests were right wing agitators

        I recall seeing plenty of Police mug shots last year of known Antifa thugs caught in the act. So this must've really been some operation to infiltrate Antifa for years, build up a rap sheet, hope that a protest happens at some point where you can attack some armed citizens and then get shot and killed, all in the hope of blaming it in the other side?

        Proud Boys

        Lol Their leader is a half black half Hispanic guy. But sure, it's the white supremacy boogeyman...

        You cannot compare them to justified protesters.

        The No True Scotsmen Fallacy. There are idiots in every group

    • by im_thatoneguy ( 819432 ) on Monday January 18, 2021 @07:50PM (#60962026)

      The vast majority of the people "there" though were "there" being DC and specifically within proximity (if not within) of the capitol building were there to overturn the election. The result of that would have been "People actually trying to make a coup".

      The problem with listing 100 reasons people might be there is that you somewhat implicitly state that each person was there for a different reason so only 1% of the riot was there for a coup.

      99% of the BLM crowd was there to protest racial violence. When you say "Some were there to protest racial violence" and "some were there to loot" there is a soft implication that the ratio is 50/50.

      So sure maybe 75% of the people who entered the building weren't there to steal anything or assassinate government officials... but that same 75% wasn't just walking down the street and saw people entering the capitol and thought that would be fun. They still were part of the crowd that hoped to peacefully overturn a legal election.

      • by Tough Love ( 215404 ) on Monday January 18, 2021 @08:07PM (#60962084)

        These people, each one of them, fully intended to usurp democracy.

        • by Frank Burly ( 4247955 ) on Monday January 18, 2021 @08:33PM (#60962178)
          Yup, the very best of them were there to stop the lawful counting of Federal Electors by a show of force well after the claims of fraud had been shown to be false. The worst of them were willing to do it with violence. All of them, and their accomplices, and instigators should be ineligible for public office. The Republic can survive a lot ordinary corruption, but frauds as cynical as Trump, Cruz, and Hawley are more dangerous and should be treated as harshly as the law allows.
      • So sure maybe 75% of the people who entered the building weren't there to steal anything or assassinate government officials...

        How many people were protesting outside the Capitol? How many of those entered the building? I have no idea, and I'm happy for those people to be arrested, just as I expected BLM lawbreakers to be arrested, not encouraged by elected officials.

    • - Russian spies, or any member of some intelligence agency

      A yes the people specifically known to be all for being filmed unmasked performing crime. Perhaps you should reconsider trusting whoever sold you this stupid idea.

      • Didn't the Russian agents from the Salisbury poisonings appear on British TV to talk about their uneventful visit to Salisbury which happened to coincide with the poisonings of a former Russian agent and his daughter?
        • by pjt33 ( 739471 )

          No, that was an interview on Russian TV, with a Russian interviewer who was trying to be compliant but struggling to keep a straight face at how ludicrous it was.

    • by 140Mandak262Jamuna ( 970587 ) on Monday January 18, 2021 @08:36PM (#60962190) Journal
      Why normalize the coup, sedition and insurrection?

      No other protest tried to overthrow the government of the united states.

      • Antifa, the Weather Underground, the cult of Charles Manson, and the bombers in Oklahoma City have all sought to spark a violent overthrow of the USA. None have been as competent or successful as the Trump election coup a few weeks ago, but it's hardly a new phenomenon. Other examples include the Richmond Bread Riots of 1863 and Shay's Rebellion in 1786.

        It's not an annual event in the USA as it is in some parts of the world, but it's certainly not the first attempt to overthrow a government in the USA.

        • They aren't equivalent. Those groups were targeting some specific displeasure against the government. Except for Antifa (which isn't really a group as such and doesn't really deserve to be lumped with the actual significant groups you mentioned afterwards) they all attempted to achieve something very specific and none of that included simply just disagreeing with an election outcome and wanting the other party in power.

          Violent actions against the government are not new. An insurrection at the Capitol and se

        • None have been as competent or successful as the Trump election coup a few weeks ago

          Well, if that was the most "competent or successful" I feel better about the long-term prospects of our nation.

        • "Both side do it " is the Big Lie that got us to this state. Both sides dont do it to the same extent, to the same intensity, to the same depth. False equivalence is how the far right is normalizing insurrection and sedition.

          At the root, the statement "Soap box, jury box, ballot box, ammo box" is sedition. Once you lose it in the ballot box, you lose. Loser does not get to shoot his way to victory. Election fraud is fraud and it should be handled as law enforcement problem, by the courts, not by random i

          • A problem with that is that the sedition you're talking about is actually baked into our founding. If you'll read their writings, the Founding Fathers actually *intended* that the citizenry rise up against an oppressive government, and part of the intent of the 2nd Amendment was to facilitate that. Thomas Jefferson said that from time to time, the tree of liberty has to be watered with the blood of tyrants. Our government is self-contradictory in this regard - it is actively supposed to defend our right and

            • Did they also intend women never to have the vote? Or they really truly believed slavery should be legal forever?

              Of all the pernicious Big Lies, this is one of the biggest. That the framers wanted their own constitution to be thrown into the garbage heap by a bunch of people with guns.

              For the late 1700. Take present day, 2021. The Second Amendment is the most racially differentially enforced law of the land. Any black/brown/red American seen with a gun can be shot by police and no questions will be aske

    • I think a majority was just there to protest, and went in for the lack of resistance.

      They're still going to get a big, probably expensive, lesson in the meaning of "unlawful entry".

    • True. But imagine you are one of the worst of the foreign agents. You egg on the idiots to riot, thus preventing the police from catching you because you are surrounded by idiot criminals. You sneak into Capital, do you nefarious plot, and sneak out. You immediately head back to your country's embassy, safe and sound.

      You have left your unwitting idiotic co-conspirators to face the music.

      As they SHOULD. Committing a crime out of ignorance is still a crime. They have actively aided foreign agents.

      • i would _not_ go to the embassy. Drop off any material in as safe of a dropbox, or transmit it electronically, as quickly as possible. But embassies are monitored Why blow your cover?

        Sweeping the capitol for listening devices and booby traps has doubtless been a major part of recovering from the attack. Even a fool who simply knows a it about plumbing could create dangerous traps.

        • by pjt33 ( 739471 )

          Your cover is going to be blown by the surveillance at the Capitol, not to mention the smartphone-using self-incriminating idiots. You'd go straight to an airport or other exfiltration site.

    • by jeff4747 ( 256583 ) on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @01:58AM (#60962884)

      I think a majority was just there to protest

      No, the majority were there to overturn an election because the guy they liked lost.

      Some of them were willing to go a bit further in their efforts to overturn that election. That not all of them were planning to go so far doesn't change why they were there.

    • > - Russian spies, or any member of some intelligence agency

      Imagine the number of camera, microphone, network sniffer, they installed everywhere, it's incredible...

    • I actually thought about going, just to show my appreciation for the president, but I personally believe he should have conceded when the last state certified.

      That said, I would LOVE to have Nancy Pelosi's podium just for the bragging rights.

    • What about the instagrammers taking selfies there?
  • ... why is "romantic partner" in quotes? "Theories" anyone?
  • by quantaman ( 517394 ) on Monday January 18, 2021 @10:33PM (#60962554)

    After 4 years decrying "the Russia hoax", when a Trump believer wants to help Trump out where does she think to send the laptop?

    Russia.

    I suppose myself and a hard core Trump supporter do agree on one thing. We think there's at least an informal alliance between Russia and Trump.

    • It's funny how you qualify "informal" alliance. You're almost guaranteed to be not wrong; that's not really taking a stance.

      There is an alignment between Russia and Trump but it is highly unlikely that two highly chaotic agents would be able to form an alliance of any sort. They both have and continue to have goals in America; even though those goals are different they are accomplished the same way. And they both have a tendency to utilize conservative angst to drum up the far right to achieve politica

      • The problem is not their politics, it's who they are supporting. It's the action not the motivation that gets them labeled. My question to you would be do you assume anyone who calls them out is a leftist?
  • It seems the original poster watched too many Hollywood movies.

    As far as I know possession of stolen goods is a crime in RF. The girl would get herself arrested and the notebook would be returned to the owner. The same as in any other country.
  • A Pennsylvania woman accused of being one of the Capitol rioters told a former "romantic partner" that she planned to steal a laptop computer from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office and sell it to Russian intelligence, court documents revealed Monday.

    If the allegations happen to be true (remember, innocent till proven guilty), then that's one serious fuck-up, and this lady might as well say good by to the light of day, forever.

    I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be true, as stupid as it is. I witnessed something similar when I used to work in the defense industry, a cleaning lady stealing USB drives from a defense contractor. The theft was easy to detect and trace back (you know, cameras and shit.)

    Stealing equipment is never worth it, speci

  • In WW2 the homegrown British fascists were all part of the privileged old school tie establishment figures like Mosley and Rothermere.

    The same was true during the cold war when the biggest traitors to the UK were all members of the privileged old school tie establishment, the Cambridge Six.

    The same is true today in the UK with the old school establishment forcing through brexit at the cost of the people's civil and employment rights so they can seize back control.

    The US is the same, those betraying the coun

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  • From the bbc "Riley June Williams, 22, was detained in Pennsylvania on charges of violently and illegally entering the building, and disorderly conduct.". Resistance is futile.
  • 100,000s or even Millions of ppl were running around lying about our election.
    Police were beaten and threatened with killing them with their own firearms.
    Many of these ppl were planning on holding CONgressmen/women/Senators hostage
    Others were purposely going to murder our represenatives.
    More were planning on turning over national security intel to the Russian (like Trump has not done enough of that)

    And yet, this trash call themselves patriots? They claim to support the police, while threatening them.

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