Disney Blocks John Oliver's New Episode Critical of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi (techcrunch.com) 166
Disney-owned Hotstar, India's largest on-demand video streaming service with more than 300 million users, has blocked the newest episode of HBO's "Last Week Tonight with John Oliver" that was critical of Prime Minister Narendra Modi. From a report: The move has angered many of its customers ahead of Disney+'s launch in one of the world's largest entertainment markets next month. In the episode, aired hours before U.S. President Donald Trump's visit to India, Oliver talked about some of the questionable policies enforced by the ruling government in India and recent protests against "controversial figure" Modi's citizenship measures. The 19-minute news recap and commentary sourced its information from credible news outlets. The episode is available to stream in India through HBO's official channel on YouTube, where it has garnered more than 4 million views. Hotstar is the exclusive syndicating partner of HBO, Showtime and ABC in India.
But none of the US Critical Episodes? (Score:5, Insightful)
I guess we know where Disney's money is really coming from these days.
Re:But none of the US Critical Episodes? (Score:5, Funny)
Well, it's been a while since I've watched any John Oliver episodes, but I'll make sure to watch this one on youTube. Narendra Modi Streisand, is it?
Re:It's just a hit piece on a populist leader (Score:4)
In short, it's a hit piece.
In short, it's censorship.
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comedy /kämd/
noun
professional entertainment consisting of jokes and satirical sketches, intended to make an audience laugh.
It was obviously not meant to imply that Modi had anything do with drinking elephant feces juices. That was for comedy to lighten the mood. You can't focus on an obvious joke and ignore the rest of the his points. That is what intellectual dishonesty looks like.
Re:It's just a hit piece on a populist leader (Score:4, Informative)
And I do urge people to watch it and confirm for themselves, because don't just take my word for it.
From my perspective: They showed a clip from that Grylls show where Grylls picks up an elephant poo sniffs it and then has Modi sniff it, who which then replies that it is now fertilizer. Then there's a cut and Grylls goes on to say that Grylls goes states that when it's really fresh once in Africa he squeezed it, then another cut (I don't know if that was part of the Grylls show or Last Week Tonight, but it fits into the context of what Grylls tells Modi perfectly) to a scene where you see him doing it. Then it cuts back to Grylls and Modi. Modi laughs and claps on Grylls shoulder after which Grylls states that he won't do that today and throws the poo away.
I tracked that episode down and found it on Youtube in Hindi. https://youtu.be/Ff7ZX23CJV8?t... [youtu.be]
There you can see that the cut, which shows Grylls squeezing the poo and drinking it is from within that episode. It was not created by Last Week tonight.
There was no implication that Modi did this or attended it. If I remember correctly they only referenced it later when showing some rather harsh statements from Modi's political allies and then said that their statements were even more disgusting than what the audience has seen Grylls do.
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What are you talking about?
Oliver focuses on an episode of Bear Grylls featuring Modi as a guest, and in a different episode Grylls squeezes elephant dung and drinks the liquid(*). Oliver explicitly shows Grylls performing this act, on a different episode from the one featuring Modi, who was a guest and observer asking questions.
Did you catch that? An explicitly disgusting act performed by someone who wasn't Modi, in a different episode than the one Modi attended, in a sketch purportedly about Modi. Exactly the same as the "spirit cooking" thing that happened to Hillary
There's no hit here, literally after they show the scene of Bear squeezing the turd into his mouth they go right back to him standing next to Modi where he immediately says "But I'm not going to do that today". You're not pointing out some hidden knowledge in saying that scene was from another episode of Man versus Wild, it's something that is blindingly obvious.
But hey, let's imagine that some one was dim witted enough to believe what you said. What part of Bear squeezing an elep
Re: But none of the US Critical Episodes? (Score:1)
Being critical of the USA is currently popular. I recently discovered that Border Wars is strangely absent from National Geographic on Disney Plus. Not a US critical episode but it shows what is actually happening on the border which apparently they donâ(TM)t want people to know.
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Makes sense. Disney uses a LOT of foreign labor in the US. And if their subcontractors are using undocumented foreign labor, I'm sure Disney would rather just maintain plausible deniability of any knowledge of that.
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They've given up on social responsibility just to maintain a particular market image.
That's been going on since shortly after Walt died, so it's nothing new, nor is it because o
Re:But none of the US Critical Episodes? (Score:4, Insightful)
The sad part is, it's hard to tell** if the government prodded it, or if Hotstar pre-emptively dumped the episode. It's one thing if you see a company forced to take something down due to an external force. It's another if it did so on its own, because you never know if it was done out of fear, or out of a sycophantic desire to get favors.
** to tell for certain anyway. After all, lies abound, as does the fact that in big bureaucracies one minion (even the lead one) may not know what others in the same org has done or said...
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you never know if it was done out of fear, or out of a sycophantic desire to get favors.
This is the problem with modern corruption. You very rarely find explicit Quid Pro Quo since people with half a brain know they don't need to actually bribe anyone, they can just let Darwin do your dirty work by supporting an environment in which the "fittest" competitors just happen to already align with what you want done.
You don't need to engineer a super-bug you just kill off the germs which aren't resistant and the remainder is your killer virus.
Companies just make sure that politicians which don't fi
It's the same whether Hotstar did it or not (Score:2)
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See my comment here [slashdot.org]. Substitute references to China and Chinese there with India and Indian, respectively.
Figures (Score:2)
Fascism gotta fash.
Good censorship? Not so much. (Score:2)
I've seen the YouTube excerpt of the episode and I understand why Modi would be upset and why Trump would be on Modi's side, but what's in it for Disney?
Small world syndrome. Just reading the large biography of Osamu Tezuka, the gawd of Japanese manga and anime. He really loved Disney's movies and thought they were inspirational and 14 other flavors of greatness. But now I think he was lucky to die before getting sued for the blatant copyright infringement of Jiminy Cricket he drew on the napkin. I finally
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"Save democracy" means "Vote for Clinton II", right?
YouTube link (Score:5, Informative)
Just helping the Modi Streisand effect...
DailyMotion works, youtube already pulled (Score:2)
https://www.dailymotion.com/vi... [dailymotion.com]
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Like usual (Score:2)
Das Eine wisset ein für allemal:
Wie ihr es immer dreht und immer schiebt
Erst kommt das Fressen, dann kommt die Moral.
BB
You see it? (Score:2)
Johnzo journalism (Score:2)
you know when Islam IS The Truth when.... (Score:2)
... two most populous countries in the world with 1/3 of world population, explicitly, Nazi style, discriminate against Muslims.
imagine Chaplin laughing at dictator (Score:2)
.... while Roosevelt hugging it out with Hitler while siteseeing Brandenburg Gate.
Lindbergh finally won in USA.
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Sure it should. Why should anyone allow someone to "earn his dollar" on their platform if you don't like their opinion or find them funny? I'm not censoring him, Disney is. I'm just expressing that it is good that John Oliver was censored by Disney because he is a SJW sycophant who spreads ignorance and chaos through his radical views just to make a buck.
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Whaaa? Which radical views is he expressing? How in the world is he an SJW sycophant? Cause it sure sounds like you're talking about Bill Maher who is course no John Oliver. I'm a little curious how you think he spreads ignorance as well, I've never seen a piece of his that didn't leave a person more educated than when they started.
Earnest request for evidence here as he is doing his best to carry on John Stewart's work and I personally think does a half decent job of it. He has not been afraid to make fun of people of any political persuasion from what I've seen. I imagine lots of people don't find him funny but that's just personal taste. Saying he spreads ignorance or disinformation is a whole other indictment however that I believe requires evidence to substantiate.
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I have do watch Maher somewhat regularly and I agree that he isn't really an SJW but I could understand a RWNJ thinking he is and he is certainly more of one than Oliver is. I do appreciate him calling out Trump as the whining bitch he really is. I don't understand how anyone view Trump as a tough guy. The actual tough people I've known in my life didn't care what you thought of them because it has no bearing on their toughness.
Oliver's show is 30 minutes of which about 19 is spent on the topic at hand, this naturally means he is not going to provide all details, he does a good job of summarizing though and even make it easy for you to do opposition research if you feel he has portrayed something incorrectly. I agree with you though that ultimately its dressed up as entertainment and as such should not be taken whole as news. It does give you a good jumping off point to go educate yourself though.
His interview with Edward Snowden was pretty damned balanced though, I've never made up my mind about whether what he did was good or bad and gaining perspective is absolutely something Oliver provided. Now he certainly didn't include all information about Snowden's leaks but he gave you enough to go out and find the more facts for yourself, this is the very definition of education. He provides facts and provides context that reasonable would call fair. If anyone is getting their news from only one source then they are purposely choosing to remain ignorant, but I think he does his best as I say, to leave you more educated than when you began. This is quite true for his piece on investment companies buying manufactured homes and then hiking the rent. Not two months after that piece aired it happened to my wife's aunt who is on a fixed income and now trying to move someplace she can afford even though she has a mortgage on a house which is on a property that she leased. I would never have gone into that deal myself but I understand there are lots of people with far fewer options than I.
I would still be curious for even one example where Oliver left out an important detail on any of his stories. They aren't Barr summaries, they are actual summaries. If I've missed something which I concede is always possible I'd like to know about it.
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How deep in the rabbit hole someone must be to consider that radical SJW c center right?
It's Stalinism all over again. Yesterday's allies are today's enemies. We gotta keep the 'cancel quote' going, just like the police that must catch so many criminals per month or else...
What a sick world we live in.
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Maher isn't on the left. He's a neo liberal which is centre right.
He is big on free speech, unless it's people collaborating to boycott brands or people, a classic right of centre liberal trait. I could go on but he's basically one of those small c conservatives who pretends to be a centrist and to understand science.
Well. I would say mostly left, but with a LOT of caveats. Besides being economically right-wing, he also doesn't believe in global warming, and has several other wierd inconsistent viewpoints, but he is also left on many others. I mostly enjoy his show for calling out parts the left-wing when it is occationally wrong, you rarely get from somebody who isn't just lying all the time. But yes, neo-liberal is the right term, unfortunately that considered left in the US, think Pelosy, Buttigieg and Hillary. Hell,
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I've watched him for a long time - where are you pulling from that he's economically right wing? I've seen him bash trickle-down economics more times than I can count.
Right. I don't consider trickle-down economics right wing, just bullshit. Conservative economics would be NOT making unfunded tax cuts, and a balancing the budgets. But yeah, those are not traits of the current US Republicans, but the Republicans are not really conservative anymore, they are fas-curious populists. That means what is and isn't right or left economic policies is even more abstract and meaningless than usual, so I can fully understand if you have a differerent view of what the terms mean.
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Oh, no! They're the guys? Now I'm so scared of another Trump term that I'm going to write a blog post about how they don't speak for the left, and we should all be less critical of Trump and the fascist arm of the Republican party for fear of triggering a bunch of snowflakes whose sense of victimhood, based on cherry-picked reporting, has already proven impervious to the fact that they control all three branches of government. You really judo-flipped me with your brilliant political insight.
We're still waiting for actual evidence.
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Now literally advocating for the deaths of three prominent media figures who you disagree with, yet calling someone else "indoctrinated". Surely *they* are responsible for Trump's election and not you...right.
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You haven't even provided what you "think" is radical because apparently we are so culturally different as to have different definitions of radical despite the fact that you have absolutely no idea who I am.
Oliver's humor is often stupid but you also haven't provided any evidence that any of his stories actually are stupid let alone "fake news." The likes of CNN and MSNBC often fall into the fake news crap because they are always on in a 24 hour news cycle and always trying to bring in viewers. Oliver gets to take his time and research everything over the course of an entire week, sometimes even longer. He doesn't fall into the same trap because initial reports being completely inaccurate doesn't come into play for him. John Stewart had an entire day and also didn't fall into this trap. You are extremely unlikely to find any evidence that Oliver has delivered anything that was factually incorrect on his show. You are also extremely unlikely to find anything Stewart got factually incorrect but that is just rehashing the past since he doesn't do it anymore.
Saying Oliver spreads ignorance or disinformation is a whole other indictment however that I believe requires evidence to substantiate because again, all you have provided are attacks that further no one's agenda unless you're just a troll.
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Let's be blunt. It's because the Trump Administration is a frequent target, and in some circles, anything that even looks mildly critical of Trump is evil leftist propaganda. The Trump supporters are some of the most delicate snowflakes on the planet.
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Uh huh....
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Actually, many on the left question the more extreme wackadoos that propose safe spaces for all but white people and the champions of retroactive rape, just as many on the right won't readily agree with neo-Nazis or the KKK.
But the right definitely has plenty of snowflakes who screech in horror at the very suggestion that we have a healthcare problem or that the weather seems to be getting wackier lately.
Here's a good video (Score:2)
Here's Neil Gaiman on the subject [duckduckgo.com] He says it way better than I ever could.
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This post is an excellent example of how thick the skin of an average trump supporter is.
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Ah, right. If you can't make a compelling point of argument then go for a character attack. Fine work sir!
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When has he gone into SJW territory? I'd like just one example. He does it enough its noticeable so it shouldn't be hard. I certainly haven't seen it, he goes out of his way to make sure he is fair quite often. The only example even close is related to his lawsuit from Bob Murray who did to Oliver exactly what Oliver claimed he did to others. He won the lawsuit for good reason too. This had nothing to do with identity politics however nor would I consider it liberal or conservative.
Forcing people to shut u
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If you hold the opinion, there must be one thing you can think of without much difficulty, however trivial. You're not being asked for a comprehensive list, just a single ferinstance will do.
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The real reason you're not quick to take up this challenge is that you're smoking a tribal crack pipe.
Maher is entirely his own creature. He grew up in a political family that discussed politics daily at the dinner table. Then he's watched it in a professional capacity as a comedian for what must be thi
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Since I'm actually willing to hunt down evidence, here's a pretty good clip that defines Bill Maher's moral code: I'm Swiss [youtube.com] — 11 April 2012
It's a lot of things that would piss off the right, but one thing it isn't is SJW.
Around 3m00, on choices we make in how we treat others: fairness, tolerance, kindness, generosity, honesty, courage are actual values; most of this other noise, not so much. Five of those are also values on the right, except when clutching their pearls. On the right, "tolerance" is ju
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This is the most sickening take imaginable and will surely earn you undying disrespect from anyone remotely paying attention. John Oliver can be called many things, but a spreader of "ignorance and chaos" he absolutely is not.
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FYI: Cancel Culture isn't really a thing.
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It's not like I called half of America Racist Nazis or anything.
I was modded down because I had the temerity to point out inconvenient facts.
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John Oliver is an ignorant SJW sycophant. He really needs to go back to whenever he sprouted from. He isn't even slightly funny, but he found a niche to make a buck.
Oh, that’s because you are a foul tempered ultra conservative, a subspecies of human well known for their complete lack of a sense of humour, pronounced sense of victimhood and love of whinging about it. The reason you don’t like Oliver is because although you have no sense of humour you are aware of the fact that having your preference for authoritarian leaders mocked is humiliating and he spends a lot of time mocking things you value.
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Um no, I don't like Oliver because he is an idiot who is out of touch with reality and espouses fake views just to make a dollar. And yeah, I don't like to be mocked and most normal people don't either. I guess you guys still haven't learned that lesson. I guess we will have to teach you guys the lesson again.
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Um no, I don't like Oliver because he is an idiot who is out of touch with reality and espouses fake views just to make a dollar. And yeah, I don't like to be mocked and most normal people don't either. I guess you guys still haven't learned that lesson. I guess we will have to teach you guys the lesson again.
Really? Liberals generally find Oliver funny, moderates find him funny a number of right wingers I know find him funny. The only ones who don't find him funny are the people he mocks which is usually the corrupt and the ultra right wing crowd that passes for conservatives these days. Most normal people can take a joke once in a while. If you do corrupt things and believe stupid crap you get mocked, suck it up.
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The president of the united states mocks over half of US citizens ever day in official Whitehouse communications.
If you think a butt-mad sense of victimhood is the best way to build a coalition, you should probably tell him to stop building it on the wrong side.
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Who's the "we" who will "teach you guys the lesson again"? What's the lesson? Funny how you sound like a closeted Trump supporter.
stop lying (Score:5, Insightful)
Really, quit fucking lying. You've said about a dozen times in this thread that John Oliver says awful things, but you haven't offered one example. Not a single one. Go melt somewhere else, snowflake.
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John Oliver is an ignorant SJW sycophant. He really needs to go back to whenever he sprouted from. He isn't even slightly funny, but he found a niche to make a buck.
Found the Fox News Snowflake!
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To put is simply, tough.
Pull up your panties and start acting like an adult.
He came from the UK. But why would he go back there, he's an American!
Yes, that's right, he earned his citizenship, something you'd probably fail at.
He chose to be an American and worked hard for it, but in your case your momma just gave birth to you while she was in this country.
By the way, I served so our country can have free speech among our other rights, so I have a real hate spot for scum like 110010001000
Oliver is anything but an SJW (Score:2)
As for funny, he bought a Koala Bear Chlamydia ward and named it after John Stewart. If that's not mother fucking hilarious I don't know what is.
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Divided India falls (Score:3)
So six wrongs makes a right, eh? And I bet you think the Partition was the greatest idea since sliced bread.
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Partition worked so well didn’t it,India and Pakistan, Cyprus, Israel and Palestine, and Ireland.
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Are you trying to suggest that correcting six wrongs isn't right?
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And the new citizenship law is against the principles laid out in Indian constitution.
Also there are Muslims who are persecuted in neighboring countries...for example Shia Muslims or Ahmediyas in Pakistan. Why is the law not including them? What about Tamils in Sri Lanka?
This law and anything else of this nature from the hate mongers running India - and their supporters, the bigot savarna Hindus working as software programmers in US - is nothing but the ugliest
Re: The 15Ã minority Muslims are rioting unre (Score:4, Interesting)
If you rtfa'd
4. If itâ(TM)s about not treating unequals equally, why exclude Ahmadiyyas?
The bill includes only Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain, Parsi communities and not, say, Ahmadiyyas (a Muslim sect that is also persecuted in Pakistan) for the similar reason that it doesnâ(TM)t include Iran, Saudi Arabia, or other Islamic nations.
The Act restricts its domain so as not to interfere into issues of sectarian or communal strife or internal matters of a religion.
The CAA makes a point to not appear as if it is taking sides in theological questions of Islam (whether Ahmadiyyas are Muslims or not) or even the geopolitics of religion worldwide.
The CAA, very carefully, avoids encroaching on political as well as religious sovereignty of Islamic countries as they perceive it, while dealing with the people in its own territory.
Also, since the partition of the subcontinent happened to carve out a separate Muslim homeland, almost all those who fled to India from PAB before December 2014 are non-Muslims.
Ahmadiyyas, as a new sect, in fact, were quite zealous, and one of the most ferocious supporters of the demand for Pakistan.
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> Islamic terrorism is a bogeyman
Dont make me laugh. Islamist extremists have perpetrated 31,221 terror attacks and killed 146,811 people worldwide since 9/11, says the reputed German newspaper @welt in its INCREDIBLE report "18 Years of Terror".
That's an average five terror attacks. Every single day. For Eighteen years.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/s... [google.com]
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Around 3.4% of those deaths happened outside of active civil/foreign warzones.
I'm not saying Islamic terrorism doesn't exist or anything... but how is anyone supposed to have a conversation about it when you have to be so intellectual dishonest in order to make your side of the argument look far more vicious than it is?
The simple fact is, that 96% of Islamic Terror can also be classified as Geurilla Warfare betwee
Muslims have many nations (Score:2)
Hindus have only 1.
If you look at all of the conflicts in the world today you will find one of two basic elements:
Islam
Borders drawn (badly) by the British
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Hindus have only 1.
1 what?
If you look at all of the conflicts in the world today you will find one of two basic elements:
Islam
Borders drawn (badly) by the British
No doubt about that. I'd add in a few sprinkles of Western regime change followed by fundamentalist revolutions as well.
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I guess I always just took that for granted. I've been employed in the same job for a long ass time, I hadn't needed a social security card, or my birth certificate in ages.
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I have watched it, and it's clear you have not.
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Declaring yourself progressive won't wash the stink off of you, nor will slightly changing "fake news" make you sound more intelligent. Who else is on your list of people to kill, Mr. Progressive?
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I am more progressive than most people,
No, you're not.
You know you're not.
Hell, anyone who has watched you post for a while knows you're not.
What I want to know, is why lie about it?
Is it to give your statement more credibility? I.e., drumming up some fake credentials to prop up a dubious argument?
Or is it something deeper- like an insecurity over how fucking vile you are as a human?
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That's all well and good, but not every Christian agrees with you that the new testament supersedes the old. Most of the current Christian issues are firmly rooted in the old testament, just like Christianity's violent past. The Quran is just as contradictory as the Bible (all of it), and interpretations come down entirely to what the sect, leader or individual believes. Or finds convenient. See for example the fatwas regarding suicide bombing.
That's the danger when you look to a book written in the dim ba
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Before 1946 the bible didn't mention homosexuality. What do you think?
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It's almost as if they will believe anything that they want to believe...
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Scripture and Sacred Tradition are firmly against any concept of Jihad.
Someone really should have told the Catholic European countries that shit a few hundred years ago.
The problem with Christianity, is that many Christians in power see themselves as the Father's instruments to bring about his will.
Where in the Bible does God command you to restrict others from doing what they feel is right based on your morality?
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Wow, misinformation much?
Islamist extremists have perpetrated 31,221 terror attacks and killed 146,811 people worldwide since 9/11, says the reputed German newspaper @welt in its INCREDIBLE report "18 Years of Terror".
That's an average five terror attacks. Every single day. For Eighteen years.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/s... [google.com]
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What's the connection?
They're both bigots.
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Because people conveniently bring up the caste system, which granted is a degenerated but still a social system while discussing Hinduism (note: the Britishers changed/worsened/exploited the original caste system for their benefit during the colonial era: https://www.google.com/amp/s/w... [google.com]) ... ...While conveniently overlooking the fact the Hinduism is among the few pluralistic religions in active practice today that teaches harmony among religions...the others being offshoots, e.g. Buddhism and the like (h
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The key point being that these principles of ahimsa and acceptance of other religions (not just tolerance, but a step above: acceptance) are in active practice today, and have been for the last 5000 years, Hinduism being the oldest religion around.
Its no wonder then that Hindus (and the other derivative Dharmic religions like Buddhism) dont proselytize while Muslims and Christians try to force their belief system on others.
Re: Savarna Hindu vegetarian terrorists (Score:2)
So, according to you, this didn't happen : https://indianexpress.com/arti... [indianexpress.com] ?
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Most of the Indian programmers I've met in the US come from families that were in business. This puts them from a caste standpoint squarely in the middle. Also a number of them aren't even Hindu. There are Jain and Sikh programmers here too.
So this is a crude attempt to exploit ignorances to spread strife. It might even be a foreign troll. If you have an Indian colleague let his actions and work speak for themselves.
In my experience they're a mixed bag, just like their American counterparts. A few are very
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Better to eat bland food so that their clothes don't pick up the scent and offend you. I'll take curry smell in an elevator over too much perfume or a smoker any day of the week.
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Let's get our analysis from comedians, because we're too dumb to understand the news ourselves. Sure, that'll work out well.
Well, a lot of us get our science education from politicians, so that seems legit.