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Paris Museums Put 60,000+ Historic Photos Online, Copyright-Free (petapixel.com) 27

Long-time reader schwit1 shares a report: Paris Musees, a group of 14 public museums in Paris, has made a splash by releasing high-res digital images for over 100,000 artworks through a new online portal. All the works were released to the public domain (CC0, or "No Rights Reserved"), and they include 62,599 historic photos by some of the most famous French photographers such as Eugene Atget. The new website, called the Collections portal, was launched on January 8th and offers powerful search and filtering options for finding specific artworks.
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Paris Museums Put 60,000+ Historic Photos Online, Copyright-Free

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  • Kudos for CC0! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by UnknownSoldier ( 67820 ) on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @04:48PM (#59668840)

    No copyright? Somone had a sudden outbreak of common sense?

    This is great news -- thanks for putting culture before profits.

    • Re:Kudos for CC0! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Solandri ( 704621 ) on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @05:16PM (#59668952)
      That you're excited about photos and artwork more than a century old being released free of copyright, is the problem. Copyright lasts too damn long. So long that we now naturally assume everything is copyrighted unless proven otherwise, rather than the other way around. Remember, no copyright is the default, natural state. Copyright is an artificial legal construct.
      • Re:Kudos for CC0! (Score:4, Insightful)

        by dwywit ( 1109409 ) on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @05:46PM (#59669042)

        You're claiming that there is no natural right of a creator to exclusive exploitation of their works? I think you're in the minority, there.

        Copyright - yes, it's been badly abused - is the legal recognition that there *is* a natural right for exclusive exploitation.

        All *rights* are legal constructs. Some are artificial, some are natural.

        • by Halo1 ( 136547 )

          You're claiming that there is no natural right of a creator to exclusive exploitation of their works? I think you're in the minority, there.

          It depends on the jurisdiction [wikipedia.org]. In most of continental Europe, the "natural right" part of copyright is limited to the moral rights over a work, such as the right to claim authorship. These moral rights are, moreover, inalienable. The exploitation rights are separate there, and indeed generally not considered natural (and can be transferred at will).

        • Re:Kudos for CC0! (Score:4, Insightful)

          by Wycliffe ( 116160 ) on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @07:04PM (#59669356) Homepage

          You're claiming that there is no natural right of a creator to exclusive exploitation of their works? I think you're in the minority, there.

          Copyright - yes, it's been badly abused - is the legal recognition that there *is* a natural right for exclusive exploitation.

          All *rights* are legal constructs. Some are artificial, some are natural.

          Completely wrong. Copyright and patents were created because the government saw that there was a benefit to society for authors and creators to have a limited monopoly for a short amount of time. There is no natural right to not be copied. Over the years different groups have went to great lengths to keep their secrets hidden so that they wouldn't be copied. Some things were so well protected that it died with the group and the knowledge was lost forever. Patents and copyrights should be long enough to encourage people to produce goods and share knowledge but as short as possible after that to encourage derivative works and standing on the shoulders of giants.

          What this boils down to is that blockbuster movies like Avengers and Star Wars should probably have a copyright of less than 5 years for maximum benefit to society as within the first 5 years is when the majority of their profits are made and they would continue to produce movies even if copyrights were considerably shorter than they are today.

      • Honestly there isn't anything wrong with long copyrights as long as the stuff is preserved, the problem is that the copyrights are so long that stuff isn't being preserved and there is no economic incentive to preserve it. There is a ton of stuff being lost, and it's because copyrights are so long that it's happening. Copyrights need to be shortened, in some cases dramatically to ensure this stuff isn't lost forever.

        Myself I'm particularly concerned about digital assets that are being lost, how much softwar

        • Honestly there isn't anything wrong with long copyrights as long as the stuff is preserved

          Not only the work itself but also the chain of ownership needs to be preserved. For example, who would have inherited copyright in William Shakespeare's plays had "forever less one day" copyright been in effect at the time?

      • The photos and artwork aren't copyrighted anymore but someone had to take the time to digitize them and pay to host them.

    • I did a quick search on Eugene Atget, and it turns out he died in 1927.
      There is no good reason any of his work should still be under copyright.

      Cartier-Bresson died in 2004, so the same goes for him.

    • by AHuxley ( 892839 )
      The from France part is the good optics for France.
      Kudos for some great nation building optics granted to the world for "free".
      Enjoy the free art? Visit France and enjoy it for real.
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Don't worry, some stock image company will add them to their database and start spamming DMCA notices any day now.

      The was recently a case of some company claiming copyright over one of the YouTube sound library tracks that are licence-free for use on YouTube. Some channels got entirely demonetized because they used the track in every video.

      Stealing copyright or stealing from the public domain is a popular scam these days.

  • by Tailhook ( 98486 ) on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @04:58PM (#59668872)

    There is a lot of boilerplate in these collections. The search function seems to work fairly well in this one. Search for "rue photographie" (street photo, roughly) for some interesting images. Here is a link [paris.fr].

    • by psergiu ( 67614 )

      Now somebody download them all, sort them by date of the snapshot and and run them through a photogrammetry algorithm - we might get full 3D models of the most photographed areas at various times throughout the history.

  • Merci beaucoup! Allez les FranÃais!
  • Is it just me or is the site really incompatible with secure HTTP? Using Firefox with the following links:

    • https://parismuseescollections.paris.fr/ (Firefox complains "can’t establish a connection to the server at parismuseescollections.paris.fr")
    • http://parismuseescollections.paris.fr/ (Works)
    • by Shotgun ( 30919 )

      Are you worried that a man might step in the middle and send you an altered historic photograph of a man standing on a street corner?

      • by AHuxley ( 892839 )
        Think of the powers savings globally as the very complex and energy intensive https math was not used :)
        Http is the new green way to use the internet and save on power..
        France is doing something green.. its not a problem its a green feature...
  • All the works were released to the public domain (CC0, or "No Rights Reserved"

    So what's to keep me from getting all of these and placing a copyright on them. They're in the public domain, so they're all up for fair grab, right?

    And then I can make all of those nasty evil museums that posting MY works either take 'em down or pay a IP fee. I've done ALL of the effort here, now I get to reap ALL of the rewards. Isn't that how it works?

    I'm just following Disney here, except with pictures instead of stories, so it's GOT to be legal, moral, and non-fattening.

    • by bws111 ( 1216812 )

      What a moron. Please provide any example of a public domain work that Disney copyrighted, and is now no longer in the public domain. I'll make it easy for you: there aren't any.

  • Hopefully there is a picture of Mona Lisa, never seen her

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