Will China Export Its Surveillance Technology? (businessinsider.com) 54
Business Insider ran a disturbing opinion column by their senior finance correspondent:
The detention camps where the Chinese government has interned more than 1 million Muslim Uighurs serves a dual purpose. It not only oppresses what the Chinese government considers a troublesome minority on its western frontier but also serves as a lab for the development of surveillance technology by Chinese companies. China must export these tools as part of its plan to transform its economy into a world leader in technological development.
"It's not unusual that colonies on the periphery become laboratories of surveillance and control that are then applied elsewhere," Philip Thai, a historian of modern China at Northeastern University, said. "They're doing a lot of testing in an area that is remote and against a people who are not as politically organized or connected... To go up the value chain, China has to own the tech that is the tech of the future, so AI, surveillance. China believes fields like this could help it climb the value chain so it can reap the benefit from exporting these technologies instead of making the lower end and having foreign companies captures most of the gains...."
The push to develop this kind of technology has become more imperative as the Chinese economy has slowed in recent years. Sectors like manufacturing and heavy industry that used to drive its economy are declining and laden with debt, so the government needs new sources of growth to continue to power the Chinese economic miracle... If we're going to acknowledge what's happening in Xinjiang, we have to acknowledge it's a testing ground for those kinds of weapons and it's China's aim to enrich itself by unleashing them on the world.
"It's not unusual that colonies on the periphery become laboratories of surveillance and control that are then applied elsewhere," Philip Thai, a historian of modern China at Northeastern University, said. "They're doing a lot of testing in an area that is remote and against a people who are not as politically organized or connected... To go up the value chain, China has to own the tech that is the tech of the future, so AI, surveillance. China believes fields like this could help it climb the value chain so it can reap the benefit from exporting these technologies instead of making the lower end and having foreign companies captures most of the gains...."
The push to develop this kind of technology has become more imperative as the Chinese economy has slowed in recent years. Sectors like manufacturing and heavy industry that used to drive its economy are declining and laden with debt, so the government needs new sources of growth to continue to power the Chinese economic miracle... If we're going to acknowledge what's happening in Xinjiang, we have to acknowledge it's a testing ground for those kinds of weapons and it's China's aim to enrich itself by unleashing them on the world.
No (Score:1)
Government and employees (Score:1)
Of course they will (Score:2)
n/t
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Re: Containment (Score:2)
Will China Export its Surveillance Technology? (Score:2)
Article source not reliable (Score:2)
They won't (Score:2)
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China as country and state has no depts.
are you for real? (Score:2)
Doesn't matter (Score:1)
Re: Doesn't matter (Score:3, Insightful)
Americans believe what they want (Score:1)
Americans will believe what they are told to believe.
No one else will pat any attention to what they claim. Germany is using Huawei for it's 5G despite American allegations.
And the West will be happy to buy them (Score:4, Insightful)
And hang ourselves in the process of chasing the almighty dollar.
I wonder if it's not too late to buy some small island somewhere and start fresh...
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they already have (Score:1)
it's called huawei in a chip
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Open Manufacturing and Beyond (Score:2)
Example of related recent discussion: https://groups.google.com/foru... [google.com]
To me, the issue is more about promoting a diversity of possibilities for people to try to find ways of life that reflect their values, cultures, needs, and aspirations (including possibly mixes of subsistence, gift, exchange, and planned transactions) -- thus this idea I put together around 1999 (but so many distractions, so it mostly remains unrealized by me even as it gets ever easier for someone to do...):
https://www.kurtz-fernhout. [kurtz-fernhout.com]
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For that to work like it did for the Chinese and the Japanese before them, you'll have to get to a point where they outsource production of their tech to you.
Now granted, America's oligarchs are trying their best, but it's gonna take some time.
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America only makes money off wars.
Re: Of course they will. (Score:2, Insightful)
China? Why not California? (Score:1)
Is this a joke? Millions of Californians are under daily surveillance by private companies: https://www.vice.com/en_us/art... [vice.com]
Do people really think this isn't a thing?
Asking after the fact (Score:2)
"Will China Export Its Surveillance Technology?"
We ask that question as if we've never ever found any evidence of "survellience" technology being exported out of China.
Give me a break.
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This is indeed a strange news post, since China is already exporting it to over 60 countries.
https://mainichi.jp/english/ar... [mainichi.jp]
https://www.abacusnews.com/tec... [abacusnews.com]
Even here on Slashdot we've seen reports of them exporting their systems to Iran and South America.
Economic Flameout (Score:3)
used to drive its economy are declining and laden with debt, so the government needs new sources of growth
This quote makes me wonder how sustainable the Chinese economy really is, if their growth is a result of an industries taking on an unsustainable amount of debt at what point does the entire thing flameout as we saw happen with LeEco/Faraday?
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Americans Trillion dollar defecit (Score:2, Interesting)
China will export its bad apples (Score:1)
I hope so (Score:2)
I for one am glad that I am so valuable and doing stuff that is so economically great that people want in on the action.
It's the kind of validation and flattery I'm looking for.
The R&D captive lab is flawed (Score:2)
Organ transplants (Score:2)
a troublesome minority (Score:4, Interesting)
Yes, very troublesome [rfa.org]...
Whether China exports the tech is not the issue. Check out who imports and uses it. Hell, even the western stuff is made there anyway, so what is China "exporting"?
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Score:1)
Answer to the ages old question of who watches the watchers: The state affiliated companies who sold them their surveillance gear. Duhhhhh.
Bus. Insider needs to get out more!!!!!! (Score:2)
Dudes! It already has for quite awhile now --- where the eff have you been???
Their Social Credit System is bundled with their Smart City package, now in Venezuela, Ecuador and a bunch of those former Soviet 'stans . . . .
Shame there's no media left in North America and elsewhere!?
Obviously, it has long been doing so! (Score:2)