New Zealand's New Visa Program Requires Positive Energy and a Business Plan (bloomberg.com) 106
pacopico writes: Two years ago, New Zealand started what might be the most radical visa program ever invented. It's called the Global Impact Visa. As Bloomberg Businessweek writes, "You can live in New Zealand or not, do business in New Zealand or not, and stay in New Zealand at the end of the visa term or not. The main requirements are that you're an interesting person with good intentions and good ideas and that you know lots of other interesting people with good intentions and good ideas."
To get the visa, you're vetted by four people. Then, you go live in a yurt village for a week with the other people who have gotten into the program. The whole idea is to come up with business ventures that might bring an enlightened form of capitalism to the world. In a really weird twist, two Americans and an Ethiopian started this thing, which has been a hit so far but not without plenty of controversy.
To get the visa, you're vetted by four people. Then, you go live in a yurt village for a week with the other people who have gotten into the program. The whole idea is to come up with business ventures that might bring an enlightened form of capitalism to the world. In a really weird twist, two Americans and an Ethiopian started this thing, which has been a hit so far but not without plenty of controversy.
Interesting person (Score:2, Funny)
The main requirements are that you're an interesting person.
Dang. I guess I will never be allowed to visit NZ.
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Re: Interesting person (Score:2)
Trump broke my piano!
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Did you just refer to New Zealand citizenship as "Oz"?
I know a few people from both countries who would deport you solely based on that
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The main requirements are that you're an interesting person.
Dang. I guess I will never be allowed to visit NZ.
AC:
You're a liar, Bill.
So your saying Bill is an interesting person then?
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Your != you're. Bill is an interesting subject. Why does he lie? Why doesn't he admit he took shortcuts and got burned on MANY, MANY TOPICS? Why is doubling down the only option? Why is this part of a pattern?
It's interesting on that level. Whether he considers himself fully " a person " or not, or should, lying this publicly this often... that's apparently for us to decide as the observers of the phenomenon. What kind of "person" lies this often?
What kind of "person" lies this often?
>Trump
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Consider the set of uninteresting numbers
This set must have a smallest member[1]
This number is the smallest, uninteresting number, and is therefor interesting. Remove it from the set
Now, consider the set of uninteresting numbers...
By extension, there are no uninteresting people.
[1]Oh all right, I guess that means that complex numbers are uninteresting.
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This set must have a smallest member[1]
This is only true for some sets.
It is obviously true for the positive integers.
But it is not true for positive real numbers, or even for positive rational numbers. Give me any real or rational positive number, and I can give you one smaller.
So there are no uninteresting integers. You have proved that.
There may be no uninteresting rational numbers. There is no "smallest", but the set of rationals can still be ordered, say, by the sum of the numerator and denominator. The set of algebraic numbers is also
Now wholly true (Score:2)
But it is not true for positive real numbers, or even for positive rational numbers. Give me any real or rational positive number, and I can give you one smaller.
You say you can, but in a finite universe at some point the smaller number will be physically impossible to give, therefore the number before that is interesting, as is the number you could not give because of the limitations of physics or lifespan or paper supply or what have you.
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in a finite universe at some point the smaller number will be physically impossible to give
That is very interesting. Which means the number you gave is not the smallest interesting number.
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What an interesting conversation. You both must be interesting people.
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...welcome to New Zealand
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The main requirements are that you're an interesting person.
Dang. I guess I will never be allowed to visit NZ.
I'm just asking for a . . . um . . . friend.
Are they also looking for folks that are intriguingly bat shit crazy . . . ?
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That's easy to do when you're MILES from anyone who might slap you around. It's like living in a castle and refusing hedgerows for defense.
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The main requirements are that you're an interesting person.
Dang. I guess I will never be allowed to visit NZ.
Don't worry you'll be fine. This requirement is there because Kiwi's are so bland and uninteresting that other countries rejects are positively fascinating in comparison.
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We have enough of those people already.
Re:business plan (Score:5, Informative)
the current government has embraced foreigners as a means of diversifying the economy and rethinking the country’s collective goals. Politicians and businesspeople have been pushing to attract talent that will build new industries, which could carry New Zealand past its dependence on agriculture and tourism. Beyond that, there’s a growing desire to make New Zealand a role model for a more modern, enlightened capitalist economy.
Is bullshit.
With 5 million people, New Zealand is a two-degrees-of-separation place where a key government official or bright engineer is a phone call away.
Is not even true
Have a quick gander at the Edmund Hillary Fellowship page and you'll see that most of them are New Zealanders already, and if you want one of these visas you will need to get into the programme, so forget it.
What you really need, if you want to live here is wait for the National Party to win an election, then pay them lots of money.
Then you don't even need to come to the country to get citizenship, like Peter Thiel you can just buy your way in.
For those who don't RTFA (Score:2, Informative)
"EHF has up to 100 places available each year for international candidates, and also accepts New Zealand entrepreneurs and investors. The Fellowship selection process occurs twice a year, after which successful applicants will be sent a Letter of Offer and invited to apply for a Global Impact Visa.
Global Impact Visa (GIVs)
The Global Impact Visa is a three-year open work visa that enables participants in the Edmund Hillary Fellowship to work and live in New Zealand, with a path to permanent residence. Separa
Short Version (Score:5, Insightful)
Short version is two personal data miners got rich selling your data to ancestry.com and started a tech commune in New Zealand.
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They're only just starting to arrive in any numbers.
Wait until there's a few hundred thousand of them there, things will change.
Just like *everywhere else* that they go to, it'll soon be a nightmare.
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You don't recall that the reason that mosque was shot up by the nutter, was because it was the one where the NZ jihadi (the one who went to commit atrocities in Syria) was radicalised.
Guess your attitude is "as long as you shit somewhere else, I'm good"
wow. love it (Score:2)
As a NZer, this is the first I've heard of this (Score:2)
I've never heard of this programme before. At 100 places per year, it's hardly opening the flood gates.
Aprif Fools late (or way too early...) (Score:2)
A "yurt village"?
When, oh when, will adults get back in charge of the world?
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Two items can be silly. Don't be an idiot. Stop with the "but your bad example isn't important because of this other bad example over here".
That's how adults think.
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Some rich people are adults.
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Some rich people are adults.
But many other rich people seemingly never grow up - perhaps because, unlike us unwashed masses, they don’t really need to just to survive.
Oh come on (Score:2)
Is this a nation or a club?
I think it's easier to get into the Masons. Which brings up a point: is there a secret Kiwi handshake?
New Zealand is off my visit list, fascists. (Score:1, Insightful)
They are sending armed squads around collecting firearms, socialism growing and their "Chief Censor"(Actual title) helping keep the population ignorant to the great replacement.
No more tourist dollars from me.
haha great idea (Score:3)
Great idea. Solves the problem that foreigners don't assimilate and solves the problem of crazy people getting in accidentally. Win win.
And for the uneducated, a yurt is simply a semi permanent tent. Does not have to do with hippies as much as one would think.
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New Zealanders have been utterly smashed (Score:2, Interesting)
By Chinese immigration - same as Australia.
Doubly so for New Zealand for several reasons.
1, I believe it's easier to get in to
2, It's even more isolated and cleaner than Australia for long term safety prospects (simply has less population, currently)
3, Once you're an NZ citizen it's dead easy to get into Aus, so many of the Chinese who couldn't get here (and trust me, many, many have) - they have a backdoor in.
The locals in both NZ and Aus have been utterly wrecked by this, with utterly astoundingly huge po
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Not sure if "hedge" is the right word for "mass debt used to gamble that foreign property markets will return massive profits"
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Correct and it's DECIMATING the quality of living and potential to own a home for multiple generations in Canada, London, Australia, New Zealand.
The govt are complicit in 'selling' out the locals.
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This guy is kidding himself and hasn't seen the stats.
https://i.imgur.com/DDojOh9.gi... [imgur.com]
http://i.imgur.com/aTGE6SV.gif [imgur.com]
Only 5 years change - you were saying?...
Oh, "Hell Visas"? (Score:2)
Vetted by four people (Score:2)
essentially... (Score:2)
This is a "let in businesses with a plan" visa, wrapped in Yurts and veganism to make it seem something more...."enlightened"