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Hiding in Plain Sight: The YouTubers' Crowdfunding Piracy (engadget.com) 79

Some YouTube channels are publishing full-length episodes of TV shows, rights of which they obviously do not own, and on top of this, they are trying to crowdfund their piracy efforts by asking viewers to donate some cash. From a report: YouTube creators asking for money is nothing new, be it through the site's built-in membership features or third-party services such as Patreon. But trying to profit off someone else's intellectual property isn't the same as asking for support on an original video they've created. The person who runs the Kitchen Nightmares Hotel Hell and Hell's Kitchen channel did not respond to multiple requests for comment from Engadget, but their Patreon page (named YoIUploadShows) isn't coy.

"Hey! It's not as easy as you might think to make my content, I have to look for the best quality episodes I can find, download them, convert them, edit them, render them and upload them," YoIUploadShows' Patreon page reads. "This can sometimes take at least a few hours. Especially because the downloads are usually slow and the rendering itself can take a couple hours, because I started making all my uploads in HD instead of 480p to give them a little extra clarity." It's not easy, folks, so for that he or she "would really appreciate the extra support if you have any money to spare :)"

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Hiding in Plain Sight: The YouTubers' Crowdfunding Piracy

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  • Yeah, random piracy is definitely the most important and relevant crowdfunding story right now, especially involving Patreon and Youtube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
    • Okay, so the old scammers are trying some new wrinkles to get money, but does it cross the threshold to be actual news? I don't think so, unless maybe you're a glutton for sad stories.

      If the google wanted to decriminalize YouTube, they've had years of brilliance to come up with solutions. Obviously the google don't care. They must be making money from supporting the criminals or they would stop supporting the criminals. The only "law" at today's google is "All your attention are belong to us!"

      https://en.wik [wikipedia.org]

      • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

        Actually your claim is totally the exact opposite of reality. It is not about Google making money, it is how much it would cost google to personally and individually review every single piece of content uploaded, 576,000 hours of content per day (https://www.businessinsider.com/viewers-find-objectionable-content-on-youtube-kids-2017-11/?utm_source=feedly&amp%3Butm_medium=referral&r=AU&IR=T) times by say $25 per hour because the people doing should be very knowledgeable in law, every single day.

        • it is solely about them being not able to afford it, end of story, done and finished.

          Google is one of the richest companies in the world, but you justify their profiting from copyright infringement because they can't afford operating withing the law? Since when is that a valid excuse?

          Also, why should the content owners waste their time searching and reporting? So Google can cut their costs and hire less people?

          Are you a Google shill or are you being dumb for free?

      • by shanen ( 462549 )

        Why is Slashdot overrun with illiterate trolls these years? One of my theories is that international hackers think trolling on Slashdot is a cheap way to boost their English skills.

  • by magusxxx ( 751600 ) <magusxxx_2000 AT yahoo DOT com> on Friday December 14, 2018 @12:33PM (#57803998)

    ...where I take this yutz's content and ask you to hit the "Click to Give" link at...

    https://thehungersite.greaterg... [greatergood.com] ...would that be wrong?

  • The cable companies don't even do that much work. If we can pay for cable to give us the episodes, then why not a youtube channel.
    • Because the cable companies are actually paying the content owners, this entity -- I suspect not so much...
    • by jythie ( 914043 )
      Something I always found fascinating was that when content was available both via piracy and legitimate sources, the pirated content was less likely to be mislabeled or out of order, while the legitimate sources did not seem to put any effort into making sure they got anything right.
    • Sounds like the free market at work.

  • ... what corporations have been doing to us via lobbying and inserting defects into software like games and OS's and calling them a "service".

    The reality is out world is a hive of criminal and villainy and most people are too stupid to notice or do something about it.

  • Looking through my youtube recommendations I don't see any infringing videos. I like small time original content like covers to popular songs, but I have to download them because they keep disappearing. Check out this guy with 350 subscribers covering Elton John: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Movie Studios c. 1970s: We can't let TV stations broadcast our movies - then nobody would go to the theaters anymore and we'd loose money! .... studios start licensing movies like The Wizard of Oz to be broadcast on TV and raking in cash...

    Movie Studios c. 1980s: We can't let people rent movies on VHS - then nobody would go to the theaters anymore and we'd loose money! .... studios start selling VHS versions of movies for $80, raking in cash....

    Movie Studios c. 1990s: We can't let people buy cheap movies on

  • Download them? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    So let me guess, they're not just pirating content, they're using someone else's pirated content as the starting point to make their pirated content. And they expect people to give them money for that, when the bulk of the effort was time a computer spent chugging away unattended? Might as well mine Bitcoin if that's so much of a burden. Damn GoFundMe generation expects people to throw money at them for doing practically nothing except breaking laws and violating rules.

  • Good lord ... (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward

    "This can sometimes take at least a few hours. Especially because the downloads are usually slow and the rendering itself can take a couple hours, because I started making all my uploads in HD instead of 480p to give them a little extra clarity." It's not easy, folks, so for that he or she "would really appreciate the extra support if you have any money to spare :)"

    Wow, so basically this person is more or less admitting they're engaging in copyright infringement for monetary gain by indicating they wish to

  • by Bobrick ( 5220289 ) on Friday December 14, 2018 @01:05PM (#57804216)
    Bullshit. What is there to edit? You download the episode off Bittorrent at about 5 minutes per episode on a decent connection, upload that file to YouTube. Be honest and just say you want us to pay your connection bills + as much extra cash as you can get out of this, but don't bullshit us or seriously rethink your workflow.
    • Often they have to do some editing to put the content in an embedded window, and surround that by a moving background so that the algorithm can't tell what they copied. Often they also add a few minutes of extra sound, or repeated sound, at the end for the same reason.

      I'm not saying it deserves payment, I'm only saying that it does involve some editing.

      Pirates should do it for love, if they do it for money they risk troubles. Great hobby, horrible job.

    • by ruddk ( 5153113 )

      YouTube's Content ID will flag their uploads if they don't alter the video and audio.
      Apparently, Patreon isn't as quick to shutdown accounts of pirates as they are to people that offends someone. :D

    • Never mind that. While it's been known since forever that time is money, it's also well known that not all time is equal. There's no correlation between how much time you put into your job and what you get paid for it, because sometimes the work you do is just worthless (hence, the endless begging for money).

      I remember when people did stuff for free because it was fun. Today everyone and their grandma has a Patreon, and whines that they can't make a living posting recycled crap online.

  • This can sometimes take at least a few hours. Especially because the downloads are usually slow and the rendering itself can take a couple hours, because I started making all my uploads in HD instead of 480p to give them a little extra clarity."

    So, the shows themselves are in ~480p, and the uploader thinks it looks better if converted over to HD? Wasn't there a recent post here saying how upscaling HD causes distortion in the properly made film?

    Plus can't the uploader use the computer to do something else

    • So, the shows themselves are in ~480p, and the uploader thinks it looks better if converted over to HD?

      No, he's saying that he now uploads in HD, as opposed to when he used to upload at 480p. The shoes he's talking about were shot in HD, so it's probable he found an HD version and didn't just downsample it. Of course, downsampling is a long, complex process, but changing the wrapper file for a 1080p show isn't, so it should be easier/faster to upload at a higher framerate (bandwidth aside)

  • How much harder is it to select a higher encoding bitrate or quality?

  • this seems like a really, really bad idea.
  • so many people on youtube think talking to there phone is a job and everyone should pay for them being lazy and jobless. youtube rather then stop such online panhandling/scams adds superchat to profit off it.
  • It's the world's smallest violin.

    PS Let's rethink your workflow. Or your priorities.

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