Tumblr Will Ban All Adult Content On December 17th (theverge.com) 317
Tumblr, the underground social media site known for its pornographic content and tight-knit community, will be instituting a major change to its guidelines in a couple of weeks. The company said in a blog post today that it will permanently ban adult content from its platform on December 17th. The company flatly stated that "adult content will no longer be allowed here." The Verge reports: Banned content includes photos, videos, and GIFs of human genitalia, female-presenting nipples, and any media involving sex acts, including illustrations. The exceptions include nude classical statues and political protests that feature nudity. The new guidelines exclude text, so erotica remains permitted. Illustrations and art that feature nudity are still okay -- so long as sex acts aren't depicted -- and so are breastfeeding and after-birth photos.
After December 17th, any explicit posts will be flagged and deleted by algorithms. For now, Tumblr is emailing users who have posted adult content flagged by algorithms and notifying them that their content will soon be hidden from view. Posts with porn content will be set to private, which will prevent them from being reblogged or shared elsewhere in the Tumblr community. "Blogs that have been either self-flagged or flagged by us as 'explicit' per our old policy and before December 17, 2018 will still be overlaid with a content filter when viewing these blogs directly," the blog post reads. "While some of the content on these blogs may now be in violation of our policies and will be actioned accordingly, the blog owners may choose to post content that is within our policies in the future, so we'd like to provide that option..."
After December 17th, any explicit posts will be flagged and deleted by algorithms. For now, Tumblr is emailing users who have posted adult content flagged by algorithms and notifying them that their content will soon be hidden from view. Posts with porn content will be set to private, which will prevent them from being reblogged or shared elsewhere in the Tumblr community. "Blogs that have been either self-flagged or flagged by us as 'explicit' per our old policy and before December 17, 2018 will still be overlaid with a content filter when viewing these blogs directly," the blog post reads. "While some of the content on these blogs may now be in violation of our policies and will be actioned accordingly, the blog owners may choose to post content that is within our policies in the future, so we'd like to provide that option..."
LOL out of business within one year (Score:5, Insightful)
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Democrats voted for it just as much as Republicans. Censorship of porn is a bipartisan love affair.
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Are you unable to calculate a simple percentage? I mean, there's a goddamn button the calculator that will do it for you.
It's not "almost the same percentage".
223/236 .944
185/197 .939
94.4% vs 93.9%
Seems like they agree to me. In fact, I challenge you to find something else they agree on more closely.
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GOP: 13/236 opposed = 5.5%
Dems: 12/197 opposed = 6.1%
They're not exactly the same percentage, but I doubt the difference between the two is statistically noticeable.
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Spending other people's money is also a bipartisan thing. They just disagree on where to spend it. Democrats love expansive social programs, but Republicans love to throw money into America's already-bloated military budget, and both love to subsidise influential industries such as media and agriculture.
Re: LOL out of business within one year (Score:2)
What are these âRepublicans â you speak of? Theyâ(TM)re gone now. Tumblr is afraid of being targeted by Pound Me Too.
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You sure it didn't have anything to do with them 'deleting' front-facing pages that were serving child porn, but leaving the CP accessible if you knew the URL's? Or...didn't you hear about that?
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When it passed, the HOR was 236:197 R:D.
236-13 = 223 Repuke votes
197-12 = 185 Demoquack votes
You failed basic math. Mazel tov!
So, 94% of Republicans and 93% of Democrats.
Seems like they are in agreement on this issue.
Re:Orange Man Bad (Score:5, Funny)
He can fail his math all he wants, the fact that you are even engaging in a bargain despite 185 votes being an astounding enough number to paint you as a hypocrite, and a dumb one at that, by throwing all blame on Republicans, is in itself telling of your integrity. The fact that Feminists are emulating the Christian "original sin" by merely rewriting "everyone suffers from it" to "males suffer from it by existing" and that they've also taken on the puritanism from Christians, heralding a visible double standard and contradictory switch of liberalism from it's sex positive and sexually liberal past into a mutaween trend (i hope you know what a trend is in the dictionary), is not one which shall be ignored or put a blind eye towards.
Re: LOL out of business within one year (Score:2)
They were removed from iOS appstore outright because their porn filters were not good enough. Thatâ(TM)s likely to have more impact on business.
Well I guess I'll erase those bookmarks then... (Score:5, Insightful)
Honestly, what other use does tumblr have?
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Containment Breach (Score:5, Insightful)
If the government should subsidize anything it's Tumblr and 4chan. You'd be hard pressed to find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy, but it keeps those people from being somewhere else for most of the day.
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Usenet "went away" in the sense that major home ISPs have ceased operating news servers for their subscribers' use.
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Bring back USENET!
alt.binaries.* never went away, you just need to pay for a provider as no one is going to give you access to petabytes of data covering thousands of days of retention for free. Then there are the websites that index the content and provide generated NZBs, most of the decent ones being private these days. Binary content on usenet is very much alive and active.
Talk about opportunity! (Score:5, Insightful)
So now you're going to get a lot of furries, adult-baby fetishists, and all manner of other sexual oddities looking for new homes.
What a giant opportunity for someone to scoop up the 99.9% of Tumblr users posting erotica, and quickly switch them to a new platform...
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wish i had the resources...to make that happen while also being able to block illegal/child porn (which is tumblr ban cause)
what is interesting that tumblr will be able to block nipples but couldn't block child porn the same way?!!
Re:Containment Breach (Score:5, Insightful)
You know? One thing I've come to realize over the years is that because the most important sex organ in the body is the brain, fetishes tend to span practically anything you could imagine.
Societal norms and peer pressure tend to keep a lot of them in check. (In general, folks are never very comfortable when they're stuck being in proximity to others who think and act too differently from what they're used to.)
But yes, they're always going to seek outlets for their "special interests" -- and I think it's a good and healthy thing to provide people with those outlets.
It's interesting to me how certain fetish interests have gotten enough mainstream exposure so it's more socially acceptable to provide gatherings for them, while the rest are still hidden away. (If your thing is BDSM, for example? Most of that has become "trendy" enough that even back in the 1990's, most major cities had at least one nightclub with a "fetish night" with that as the theme.)
I'd never advocate government sponsoring anything like Tumblr. The less government spends my tax money on "projects du jour", the better off I am. But this recent legislation that cracks down on all of this has gone way overboard.
And yeah, I fail to see much attraction to using Tumblr for the G and PG rated content? Truth is, they're "yet another photo/video gallery" service otherwise. SnapChat, Instagram, etc. All performing the same functionality for people, more or less. Tumblr got a foothold BECAUSE they were known not to censor your content much.
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I don't think that's quite the case.
Of all the social media sites, Tumblr is by far the closest to "just show me the feeds I picked, screw everything else". You see 3-4 algo-suggested, and 1 staff-suggested, blogs off to the right, just the title/description/avatar and not mixed in with your feed like Twitter does. Other than that, it's literally whatever you chose to see. Which is what people actually want out of social media, honestly.
And I really doubt much of the squicky porn resides on Tumblr. I mean,
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If you have to ask where that home is, you're not really in those communities. Tumblr is not and has never been a mainstream site for those, there are plenty of open and uncensored sites for those.
Damn it! (Score:4, Funny)
No more porn? (Score:2)
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because, morally speaking, "they" don't see a need for the adult site. god created sex for procreation only, not for entertainment.
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Thanks apple... (Score:2, Informative)
for making the world a more boring place again
https://9to5mac.com/2018/12/03/tumblr-adult-content/ [9to5mac.com]
The Internet isn't (just) for porn (Score:2, Informative)
While it seems apparent many people here aren't aware of it, there are huge troves of content on Tumblr which isn't affected by this in the least.
I'm not saying this is the right decision - or the wrong decision - but the idea that Tumblr exists just for porn is silly.
Re:The Internet isn't (just) for porn (Score:5, Insightful)
lets see if the usage statistics back your statement in about a month...
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was it ever profitable?
i also wonder how much non-porn content viewing was there because people accidentally viewed it while looking for porn... you know... synergistic browsing.
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was it ever profitable?
i also wonder how much non-porn content viewing was there because people accidentally viewed it while looking for porn... you know... synergistic browsing.
Good questions. They seem to have a pretty robust ad system that places ads inline with the content. I suspect that a lot of their content is viewed on their app, making ad-blocking difficult. I bet they turned a profit.
Like most others, I think Tumblr will fail with no adult content.
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The line between curation and censorship (Score:2)
I thought the line between curation and censorship involved whether the interfering party had A. a government-granted monopoly or B. market power (as defined in antitrust theory) [wikipedia.org] over the dissemination of information. To what extent does Tumblr have either, other than sharing a parent company with RF spectrum licensee Verizon Wireless? The Larry Flynt editorial you linked mentions Google, Facebook, and Apple, which are far more likely to have market power than Tumblr.
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Tumblr will also be renamed to... (Score:3)
Re:Tumblr will also be renamed to... (Score:5, Informative)
Ghost Town
Wouldn't Tumblweed be more appropriate?
Tumblr on December 18... (Score:2)
My response is summed up in this song... (Score:2)
Porn harms... (Score:2)
Ban breast feeding too (Score:2)
I wasn't that deeply entrenched... (Score:2)
I wasn't that deeply hooked into Tumblr, but today all I did was reblog a post with a screen capture of the ban, and delete everything else.
Have fun fighting it out with Pinterest and Etsy, that's all the content you're going to have left!
Re:Thank the Repukes... (Score:5, Insightful)
Its a fundamental issue with this country.
Our standards on sex and violence really need to reverse.
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I am already in one of the more saner places in Florida.
I do not need it to get worse.
You can shoot people here, claim self defense, and the prosecution has to prove otherwise.
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The south would lock their borders so hard. You won't be able to get in or out.
And the strong possibility that I would be arrested for sedition or being heretical.
Re:Thank the Repukes... (Score:5, Informative)
You think there's a problem with the prosecution having to prove a crime? That's exactly how it's supposed to work!
Re:Thank the Repukes... (Score:5, Insightful)
Being anti free speech and anti liberty isn't exactly open minded.
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So... you are in favor of bringing back the Confederate States of America? That turned out so well last time.
Re:Thank the Repukes... (Score:5, Interesting)
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You're begging the question of whether or not knowledge about sex is, in and of itself, a bad thing.
Here's a hint. It's not. Knowledge is power, and an educated population is an asset. Suggesting that an education in the way in which your own body functions is anything other than a good thing is extraordinary. Further, your argument is nothing more than a "think of the children" rant, in which you assume that knowledge of sex is damaging, and proceed from there.
Oh really, who voted against??? (Score:5, Informative)
The bill passed the senate 97 - 2 - exactly one Republican voted against, and one Democrat.
It had no-one from your supposed two "parties" that would dare stand against it. If Hillary had been president you'd have exactly the same bill...
If you aren't libertarian by now, this is the bill that should have made that happen. Instead you are spewing partisan nonsense just trying to earn points for your "side". - do you even care about the bill? About the tens of thousands of women negatively impacted?
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Re:Oh really, who voted against??? (Score:5, Informative)
The problem is that that's how it was supposed to be: sovereign states that run themselves how they want and a Federal government that only does the absolute minimum required to maintain a country with respect to the rest of the world, stuff like defense, protect the border, enact treaties... stuff like that, and ensuring basic rights. In the past 150 years, though, that's been flipped on its head, where the Federal government runs almost everything by default and the states run whatever's left. If the U.S. had remained how it was initially meant to be, your "broken up" scenario wouldn't be necessary because the states could maintain much more diversity.
Is that really all bad? (Score:2, Insightful)
We'd also still likely have slavery in this nation. A key moment in the consolidation of federal power in our nation was the civil war.
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Slavery died out in Brazil and Cuba by the 1880s. It was on its way out by the 1830s, even before the US Civil War, since the British had banned it in their colonies like Trinidad and Jamaica.
So it would have likely ended within a few decades on its own. Bonus points if the US had let the CSA go, then quietly bankrolled a slave uprising. The slaveholders would have ended up dangling from trees and/or expropriated, not turned into rich landlords who retook much of the power in the South after Reconstructi
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How does slavery leaving the Caribbean equal the guarantee that slavery would just naturally leave the South? The South was very clearly fighting for its constitutional right to own people as seen by every state that bothered to file a justification with it's succession, or by the credible quotes of its first president.
(In referencing another of your posts in this article's general thread) I grew up in the North Bay California punk scene and once upon a time knew quite a few pirate punks. You anarchists a
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What a gripping fantasy you've spun and I would love to believe in what you have spun. Meanwhile, in real life slave revolts literally never worked.
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Oh fine, fucking Haiti. The problem with that is that on Haiti the majority population where black slaves which it why it succeeded.
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I think it's reasonable to argue that slavery would have ended because it was economically inefficient. Slaves are expensive compared to machines and free labor.
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Slavery is not about sound economics. It has always been about power.
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The problem with your reasoning is that slavery gives a false sense of power to even the non slave owner. Southern whites volunteered in the masses to defend their "superiority". Economic self interest was not a factor any more than modern southern self interest factors into Southern voting habits.
It's all philosophy.
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Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
The thirteenth amendment has an except clause, so your private prison owners can continue to own slaves for profit.
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When the US fought it's bloodiest war over it and desegregation had to be forcibly fed to our Southern States fairly recently you think slavery would just magically disapear like a breeze if no effort was spent on it? My apologize but you seem to be terribly naive.
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A) Slave rebellions never work
B) The institution of black inferiority was culturally rooted not only in the wealthy but in the common person as well. How else could the South have raised such an army of white people to fight for its cause?
C) Such culture entrenchment would have require genocide to properly root out in an immediate context and I don't think any sane person would want that. To ad a level of personal anecdote to this, I've had a handful of black friends over the years and not a single one of t
That's why you should be Libertarian (Score:2)
I'm anarchist. I'm honestly hoping and praying for divisions in the US to tear the country apart. If the US is broken up into 5 or 10 different countries
How does *50* different countries grab you? Because that is what states were supposed to be, independent entities.
Become libertarian and push for more stuff to get pushed down to state control rather than the pipe dream of a quasi-totalitarian federal government ever ceding control entirely.
It's already close to that way in some regards with things like dr
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Blame our politics, not the parties (Score:2)
Still, I was a bit shocked Bernie and Warren went in for it.
Re:Thank the Repukes... (Score:5, Insightful)
Thank the Repukes for SESTA/FOSTA.
No biggie, the democrats will repeal it when they take over, right? Just like they did with asset forfeiture, mandatory sentencing, NAFTA, the patriot act, war in Afghanistan, and the entire middle east. Yeah, that's the ticket. Democrats will fix everything.
*sigh* So sad to see this tribal bullshit is still so effective
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... people have a titty fit at the sight of a tenth part of an areola.
Ah yes, nipple-gate, that horrible cataclysm that left behind it a wasteland of thousands of American children psychologically scarred for life.
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I thought this was Apple. The Tumblr app got banned from the App Store because of child porn, and they couldn't figure out a way to just remove the illegal stuff so decided to ban everything pornographic.
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Hmm...from other posts of the voting records, look like Democrats supported that law just as much as the Republicans did.
Seems both parties are as against pr0n as the other...sad.
Morality shouldn't be legislated.
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lactation?
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Which is what the Articles of Confederation were, which failed, and which brought us our current constitution.
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Re:Thank the Repukes... (Score:4, Insightful)
A nipple is a harmless organ. In fact, a positive one, since it's a source of a life-giving fluid. It's not even a hand or foot, it's soft, squishy, and can't be used to beat anyone up. Its only two purposes in life are nourishment and enjoyment. There's no rational argument to ban images of female nipples.
A gun on the other hand, has only two uses: to maim or kill. OK, you can hunt for food with one too, but most of the guns in "gun porn" ain't hunting rifles.
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and there is no place for sex in our culture...?!!
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"Let me throw out an alternate opinion, one which I haven't seen in the previous 100+ comments."
Just highlights what a very small minority you find yourself in.
Re:A contrary opinion: and not because I'm prude (Score:5, Insightful)
I saw far too many studies of how damaging it is to the human male.
[citations needed].
I haven't seen any credible studies at all so if you have anything, I'd like to read it. There is a lot of pop-culture conjecture but very little scientific support. I do remember reading a study about the lack of high quality porn studies though. From what I remember, most studies were non-experimental (literary analysis etc) the few that were experimental were low quality (poor design, small sample etc).
Re:A contrary opinion: and not because I'm prude (Score:5, Interesting)
Porn is fantasy and not meant to be taken seriously. If porn is interfering with your relationship, or ability to have one, then you're doing it wrong. If you're indulging in porn, you're doing it wrong. If you have little self-control when it comes to porn, chances are you have little self-control in other parts of your life, too. Discriminating against porn is just making it a convenient scapegoat. That's especially true here in the USA, where we love to demonize porn, which results in a paradox where our porn is just terrible, and we indulge in it because we know it's terrible.
This is why I have such a love/hate relationship with porn. On one hand, I like what it represents, both physically and emotionally. On the other hand, I can't stand most mainstream porn, because it's often boring, stupid, and strongly emphasizes only the physical aspect of sex. It's too shallow, fantastic, over-the-top (like CGI in movies), tends to overplay the "naughty" angle, and it hardly ever looks like anyone is enjoying what they're doing.
I'm an artist, but I cut my teeth on comic strips and comic books. To me, story, character development, and humor are very important. I draw lots of porn, but I try to make my stuff more creative, and it usually focuses on committed couples enjoying the finer parts of their relationship. Alas, this seems to be a bit uncommon, and it's probably why I have so many fans, despite the fact that I have little spare time and don't post artwork very often. Given that my content is, in my opinion, a bit better than the typical hedonistic trash, I certainly don't agree with the decision to ban porn just because other people, arguably even most people, do it "wrong".
The porn we tend to like is a symptom of more fundamental cultural issues. Discriminating against adult-rated content will not fix that, and it just reminds me of all those web sites that try to enforce quality standards (which never works and always causes the death of the site). In your case, I think you just finally realized that the kinds of porn you used to like... just sucks. Good for you, but that doesn't justify making it harder for me to responsibly enjoy what I like (or try to fix it if I don't).
Sorry, but childbirth isn't friendly to most women's bodies, and you don't see any porn stars with stretch marks.
Yeah, but that's a culture problem, not a porn problem. Cue the movie with the heroine with no zits or wrinkles, slashing bad guys left and right with a katana, and then emerges from the scuffle with perfect hair and all her makeup intact. That's also why I hate most mainstream movies!