New Study Claims Data Harvesting Among Android Apps Is 'Out of Control' (techspot.com) 97
A new study from Oxford University revealed that almost 90 percent of free apps on the Google Play store share data with Alphabet. "The researchers, who analyzed 959,000 apps from the U.S. and UK Google Play stores, said data harvesting and sharing by mobile apps was now 'out of control,'" reports TechSpot. "'We find that most apps contain third party tracking, and the distribution of trackers is long-tailed with several highly dominant trackers accounting for a large portion of the coverage,' reads the report." From the report: It's revealed that most of the apps, 88.4 percent, could share data with companies owned by Google parent Alphabet. Next came a firm that's no stranger to data sharing controversies, Facebook (42.5 percent), followed by Twitter (33.8 percent), Verizon (26.27 percent), Microsoft (22.75 percent), and Amazon (17.91 percent). [I]nformation shared by these third-party apps can include age, gender, location, and information about a user's other installed apps. The data "enables construction of detailed profiles about individuals, which could include inferences about shopping habits, socio-economic class or likely political opinions."
Big firms then use the data for a variety of purposes, such as credit scoring and for targeting political messages, but its main use is often ad targeting. Not surprising, given that revenue from online advertising is now over $59 billion per year. According to the research, the average app transfers data to five tracker companies, which pass the data on to larger firms. The biggest culprits are news apps and those aimed at children, both of which tend to have the most third-party trackers associated with them.
Big firms then use the data for a variety of purposes, such as credit scoring and for targeting political messages, but its main use is often ad targeting. Not surprising, given that revenue from online advertising is now over $59 billion per year. According to the research, the average app transfers data to five tracker companies, which pass the data on to larger firms. The biggest culprits are news apps and those aimed at children, both of which tend to have the most third-party trackers associated with them.
They do not (Score:5, Funny)
Do you think apps on the Apple Store "could" also share data with Apple?
No, because Apple does not collect user data, either from built in or third party apps.
There is literally no way for a third party to forward data to Apple for collection.
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yeah, it's not like iOS apps have ads or anything.
wait a minute...
Ads come from where do you think? (Score:2)
yeah, it's not like iOS apps have ads or anything. wait a minute...
*minute passes*
Yes but not from Apple, and Apple gets no data from the ads. So your point was...
*waiting another minute*
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So instead of the same company you've agreed to share data with (the one who runs the app store you're downloading apps from) you get a bunch of random ad companies in your apps instead, all with varying privacy policies. great, that's so much better.
It's not worse of better, but it is (Score:4, Funny)
you get a bunch of random ad companies in your apps instead, all with varying privacy policies. great, that's so much better.
Wow I thought those goalposts seemed kind of heavy, but you managed to move them halfway across the country in no time at all!
Since the original topic just to remind you, is Apple getting third party app data... which again they do not, as you just admitted while taking about something else for some reason.
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Since the original topic just to remind you, is Apple getting third party app data... which again they do not, as you just admitted while taking about something else for some reason.
Apple doesn't want third party data because they already have all the valuable stuff anyway.
(via their OS).
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yeah, it's not like iOS apps have ads or anything. wait a minute...
*minute passes*
Yes but not from Apple, and Apple gets no data from the ads. So your point was...
*waiting another minute*
So instead of the same company you've agreed to share data with (the one who runs the app store you're downloading apps from) you get a bunch of random ad companies in your apps instead, all with varying privacy policies. great, that's so much better.
Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use free apps that have ads in them. How do you think free apps pay for their development cost? With all the good will and happy thoughts you send them for making a free app just for you?
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Nobody is saying the paid apps don't have tracking in them either. The developers will want analytics on how their app is used and if Apple won't offer something to get them that data, they'll use a third party.
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yeah, it's not like iOS apps have ads or anything. wait a minute...
*minute passes*
Yes but not from Apple, and Apple gets no data from the ads. So your point was...
*waiting another minute*
T%he whataboutism ius strong in this one. SO are you thinking this is a good thing that Android apps are doing? Or better, since The datat sent to Google is less intrusive than thaat collected by Apple? State your mind on the subject, not that Apple is bad and Android somehow is pure as the driven snow.
Apple says they do (Score:5, Informative)
From Apple's web site:
"We may collect information such as occupation, language, zip code, area code, unique device identifier, referrer URL, location, and the time zone where an Apple product is used so that we can better understand customer behavior and improve our products, services, and ADVERTISING."
"We may collect and store details of how you use our services, including search queries. ... we may collect data about how you use your device and applications in order to help app developers improve their apps"
"Apple and its affiliates may share this personal information with each other and use it consistent with this Privacy Policy. They may also combine it with other information to provide and improve our products, services, content, and advertising."
https://www.apple.com/legal/pr... [apple.com]
Not user data (Score:2)
We may collect information such as occupation, language, zip code, area code, unique device identifier, referrer URL, location, and the time zone where an Apple product is used so that we can better understand customer behavior and improve our products, services, and ADVERTISING."
First of all what app would have a referrer URL? Oh that's right, that is for WEBSITE DATA and we are talking about iOS APPS.
None of the rest of the stuff is data tied to the user in any way. It doesn't change the fact the third
Apple is the greatest! So they aren't lying (Score:3)
Apple is, of course, the greatest company in the world. So I'm sure they aren't lying when they say "we may collect data about how you use your device and applications".
Being amazing, I'm sure they aren't pulling your leg when they say in App store terms and conditions "You agree that Licensor may collect and use technical data and related informationâ"including but not limited to technical information about your device, system and application software, and peripherals".
Re:Not user data (Score:4, Interesting)
None of the rest of the stuff is data tied to the user in any way.
Because any company that collects the following, and shares it with business partners, could tie a device to an individual user:
occupation, language, zip code, area code, unique device identifier, referrer URL, location, and the time zone
You do understand how Facebook identifies you even before you sign up for an account, right?
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Woosh
Re: They do not (Score:2)
Oh my brother - you don't *really* believe that, do you?
If in fact you do believe it... can I interest you in purchasing some timeshare property on a Florida swa.. er.. beach?
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They don't need to share with Apple, I'm sure there enough others to share your personal data with.
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Do you think apps on the Apple Store "could" also share data with Apple?
No, because Apple does not collect user data, either from built in or third party apps.
There is literally no way for a third party to forward data to Apple for collection.
Whatabout whataboutism?
Could, can could (Score:2)
"most of the apps, 88.4 percent, COULD share data with companies owned by Google parent Alphabet ... Microsoft (22.75 percent), and Amazon (17.91 percent). [I]nformation shared by these third-party apps CAN include age ... which COULD include inferences about shopping habits, socio-economic class or likely political opinions"
Did they do a study, or just get stoned and ponder what COULD happen?
Re: Could, can could (Score:2)
Probably they just looked at a few libraries from Google that the apps link to. These same apps could instantaneously shut off your phone because they're linked to something in Android that has that functionality built in.
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I do not think that diverting attention to Apple is the answer.
Uncontrolled data collection about citizens seems to be a problem, it might be nothing, but it might as well erode slowly into a police state - face recognition, voice recognition, even recent study on mood recognition. The general public does not realize the power of big data, and how much they reveal about themselves by in their mind insignificant activities.
Convenience is a powerful tool, we carry with us willingly position trackers, microp
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I care.
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You care, well stop using Google products as much as convenient. DuckDuckGo is better than Google search, there is a whole planet of mail servers so fuck Gmail, mock Youtube by hosting you content across multiple platforms and buy nothing of Google, nothing. They ask you opinion on any survey, lie and taint the survey. Simply fuck Google and punish them, don't treat with Google employees, work for the evil digital empire, well fuck off them. Provide the company no services, need a contractor go elsewhere, w
"Control" (Score:4, Insightful)
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When something overtly evil done by a small amount of people (Google in this example) disproportionately victimizes a much larger amount of people (all Android users and everyone who knows an Android user, or anyone who knows someone who knows someone who knows an Android user in this example) you have to really seriously be warped, both morally and intellectually, to be able to convince yourself that the majority party is the one at fault.
Google's harm toward users harms Google. (Score:2)
Allowing cell phone service providers to avoid updating Android is one way Google has been destructive.
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Android is permission-based, and the ecosystem converged to apps requiring tons of permissions (even non-Google apps) and users gladly accepting those permissions. Android wasn't originally a data-gathering platform for Google, we collectively decided that it would be.
No, Android was originally developed by another company, it became a data gathering platform the second Google bought it. I don't think that there ever was a moment when Google intended Android to be anything other than the most effective surveillance device in human history. I sometimes wonder what George Orwell would make of Google, Android and the rest of it.
Network is open (Score:2)
The whole issue with Android is the network has no firewall, by default everything gets access to the Internet.
In permissions it says you are giving the *app* permission, but the app isn't getting permission, the *company* making the app is. The first thing they do is to send all the data you just gave permission for to the parent company's servers.
And the built in apps get a free ride. On a lot of Android devices these days there is shitload of Google spyware, Microsoft spyware, Facebook spyware, and often
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The whole issue with Android is the network has no firewall, by default everything gets access to the Internet.
iptables works in Android the same as it does any Linux operating system.
iptables can be used to prevent network access from apps (user accounts) you don't want to access the network. Afwall for example is just a front end to iptables and is very much able to prevent access to the network to apps you don't want to have access.
In permissions it says you are giving the *app* permission, but the app isn't getting permission, the *company* making the app is. The first thing they do is to send all the data you just gave permission for to the parent company's servers.
User space created for the app to execute in is getting the permission.
And the built in apps get a free ride. On a lot of Android devices these days there is shitload of Google spyware, Microsoft spyware, Facebook spyware, and often some Chinese spyware, all pre-installed, all waiting for you to feed in your data to be sent off to parent HQ.
My own personal view it's insane to use an unmodified Android phone with Google play services installed. There
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iptables works in Android the same as it does any Linux operating system.
Yeah - My Grandma uses iptables all the time.
I've always enjoyed Slashdotters defend Operating System Issues by telling everyone that they have to do things like use ipTables, go into services and dick with registries, open up terminal or command prompts, root their devices, Learn Unix. and on and on and on and on.
Yeah - you and I can do that stuff. 99.999999 percent of users have no idea of what we are talking about, have no intentions of becoming a power user, so this means nothing at all to them.
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Please find me a phone that works with LineageOS that allows me to root it and also doesn't get gimped after you root it and install another rom. And also, the phone can't be more than a year old. So far, I have a slightly gimped LGV20 that I use with f-droid only.
The manufacturers have joined in on all this data gathering madness and and doing everything they can to prevent you from stopping it. Samsung has gimped all their US products from being rooted or force you to wait seven days to even attempt it (I
no shit (Score:3)
Analytics and ads and services.
90% of Android apps in the play store contain the text "google.com"
That's all they checked. No data was checked, no source code looked at. They searched the APK files for host names.
What's slightly more concerning is nearly half of them potentially talk to Facebook. You already have a Google account and your phone is already sending data to the Play Store. You already know Google is is collecting analytics from your app on behalf on the developer.
Why the hell do all these apps need to talk to Facebook?
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Most benign reason, they support FB's single-signon.
And Google, by default, sends very little data to the app store.
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None of this is at all surprising. Google provides free tools to gather anonymous stats about app usage, and most developers enable them because it costs them nothing to do so.
Users seem to like social media integration and app developers know that sharing stuff on social media (e.g. stats from your last bike ride) is free advertising for their app, so build in support for popular networks.
The link claiming that this allows developers to create profiles of individuals is paywalled. Based on how flimsy their
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Data sharing... (Score:4, Informative)
On this note, perhaps Slashdot should start sharing information with themselves about what they posted yesterday [slashdot.org].
I put a firewall on my phone a while ago (Score:5, Interesting)
Most shocking? My flashlight app, which I hadn't used in 6 months, was connecting every 30 seconds or so.
Needless to say that sucker got uninstalled ASAP, as did a handful of other apps.
Sad to say I had to uninstall the firewall, it was sucking up my battery like nobodies business. But I haven't installed any apps since then.
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You could turn off the wifi and cellular if not needed. That is what I do on my iPhone 4S. Also, it saves a lot battery power. Speaking of iOS, is there a firewall app for it like in v9.3.5?
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Most shocking? My flashlight app, which I hadn't used in 6 months, was connecting every 30 seconds or so.
Could someone please explain to me why this needs to be an app? Smart phones have been around for... what... a decade, and we still need "apps" for these kinds of features?
I honestly don't know, as I don't own a smart phone.
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What do you expect (Score:3)
If you don't pay for the product (Score:2)
it's only because you are the product.
It's not surprising that this is happening. Software development still costs money. The people that do it are still expecting to get rich or at least comfortably middle class. One way or another you have to bring consumers that expect software to be free, together with developers that expect to make money off the effort.
So we now find ourselves in a place where we have free as in beer software, and the developers neglect to mention it does everything short of giving you
What's so bad about about ad targeting, exactly? (Score:1)
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Just as a heads up, modding down doesn't really answer the question, although I figure that whichever mod decided to do that is probably too blinded by their own worldview to realize that by simply modding down instead of answering, they have basically admitted they would rather censor an oppositional viewpoint than try and rationally debate it.
So let's give this a head start, shall we?
The only objection I have ever seen that makes any sense about targetted ads is the argument that they can be intrusi
Society is out of control. (Score:5, Insightful)
"...data harvesting and sharing by mobile apps was now 'out of control'..."
No, apps are not "out of control". A society that gladly accepts this shit is the one out of control. Ignorance has practically begged for the destruction of privacy.
To the society that has welcomed an Orwellian future, don't bother asking what year it is anymore. It's 1984. It's always going to be 1984, because that's what you want.
Step #1 (Score:1)
1) Stop using Google play.
2) Only use Fdroid and
3) vanilla stock AOSP build without Google's spyware, if you choose to use Android Linux.
So? (Score:2)