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North Korean Leader Says He Will Suspend Arms Tests, Shut Nuclear Test Site (cnn.com) 249

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un announced early Saturday morning that the regime no longer needs nuclear tests or intercontinental ballistic missile tests. Kim said Saturday that "under the proven condition of complete nuclear weapons, we no longer need any nuclear tests, mid-range and intercontinental ballistic rocket tests, and that the nuclear test site in northern area has also completed its mission," state-run KCNA reported Saturday. CNN reports: A North Korea source told CNN that Kim has finally decided to open up a new chapter for his nation. Kim has committed himself to the path of denuclearization and will now focus solely on economic growth and improving the national economy, the source said. The North Korean leader has realized the best path forward is to normalize relations with other countries, the source added. He is finally being recognized by the international community, and this is a historic, timely opportunity, the source said. The decision to halt nuclear and missile testing comes just one week before the leaders of South and North Korea are due to meet at the demilitarized zone between the two countries. U.S. President Donald Trump welcomed the news, tweeting: "North Korea has agreed to suspend all Nuclear Tests and close up a major test site. This is very good news for North Korea and the World - big progress! Look forward to our Summit."
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North Korean Leader Says He Will Suspend Arms Tests, Shut Nuclear Test Site

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  • by sexconker ( 1179573 ) on Friday April 20, 2018 @07:27PM (#56474919)

    Even the media can't spin this. I may actually see a unified Korea in my lifetime.
    Or it could all fall apart. But as far as I can tell, this may actually be within grasp.

    • Yeah, right until he's not happy with the size of the little flags on toothpicks on the table in the meeting room, when he decides to walk the delegation out, set one off in a cave again, and fire another rocket into the Sea of Japan.

      This guy is completely unstable, and the only reason he's even entertaining the idea of negotiations is because even the iron grip his family has had on that country is slipping. As it turns out, nuclear weapons and long range ballistic missiles are amazingly expensive to deve

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by Anonymous Coward

        I worry that this is all a deliberate ploy.

        The entire North Korean strategy for ages has been based on the understanding that they could never defeat one of the great powers in a head to head war, but that they could make any attack on them very damaging to those around them.

        It started with massive amounts of artillery, then missiles, now nukes.

        Ever since the talk of Trump & Kim meeting, my fear has been Kim would bring him close and say "For you see, my grandfathers strategy has worked. Here the leader

      • Re:Crazy (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Zontar The Mindless ( 9002 ) <plasticfish DOT info AT gmail DOT com> on Friday April 20, 2018 @08:28PM (#56475235) Homepage

        I'd say his recent, first-ever trip to Beijing had a lot to do with it. Papa Xi undoubtedly set his fine young self straight on a few matters, likely starting with, "If you fire the first missile, the Americans will turn you into a parking lot, and as long as the bombs all fall on your side of the Yalu, we'll sit right here and watch them do it."

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by thePig ( 964303 )

          I have no dog in this fight between American or Chinese politicians. From my neutral perspective, what I felt was that this was Kim's plan all along.
          NK had a very high percentage of their GDP being spent in military, and it is a difficult thing to sustain.
          The people were also suffering, and as a new dictator (not accustomed to the suffering of the people as one who has ruled for decades), it wasnt a nice thing to have.
          The solution to avoid (a) Iraq/Libya like situation - where the ruler is deposed and kille

          • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

            So they already know how to make nukes and cruise missiles are more effective than ballistic missiles. Sure they shot down the majority with 3rd anti-air systems in Syria but you just set the Nuke to detonate should it get a sufficient shock, once it is far enough from the launch site.

            Submarines are bound to go through a redesign. Stuff carried over from last century, like reloading torpedo tubes makes no sense. Far smarter to be a more compact submarine with more torpedo/cruise missile tubes between the i

            • Speed of a Tomahawk cruise missile carrying a W80 warhead: 550 mph (subsonic)
              Speed of a Minuteman III reentry vehicle carrying a W78 in terminal phase: 17,000 mph

              Range of a Tomahawk cruise missile: 810 miles for the block-III
              Range of a Minuteman III ICBM: 8100 miles

              Number of warheads on a Tomahawk cruise missile: 1
              Number of warheads on a Minuteman III ICBM: up to 3 (could have decoy package in place of a warhead)

              And this is comparing an ICBM from the early 70s. The numbers are even more compelling for a Tr

        • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

          Doesn't seem so. He was already moving in that direction before the supposed meeting with Xi happened. Remember? He met apparently with Xi after this talk by the N.Koreans happened. Now what was very interesting was China hosting Trump in the forbidden city. That doesn't happen, he was the first foreign leader to ever visit it. On top of that there was an armored train from N.Korea to China a day or so before Trump went there. It's more likely that there was some serious stuff between all parties inv

        • by GrahamJ ( 241784 )

          Came here to say same. There’s no way he just decided to be nice.

      • until he's not happy with the size of the little flags on toothpicks on the table

        I just has a thought... I can totally see Kim with a huge lifted pickup; the kind with the ridiculously huge tailpipe that [one would assume] is in inverse proportion to portions of said owner's anatomy...

    • It will happen when Palestinian's return to their land, and I don't see that happening any time soon.
      • And when the Germans/French/English/etc return the land back to the Roman Empire.. (and thence to the Etruscans/sammites/etc)
        • Agreed. Poland, Norway, Finland (don't forget Karelia), and the Baltics must all be returned to Sweden forthwith!

          I don't think we care so much about Denmark, though.

      • No right of return (Score:5, Interesting)

        by unixisc ( 2429386 ) on Friday April 20, 2018 @09:52PM (#56475647)

        'Palestinians', or more accurately, local Arabs, do live in that land. What you are likely describing is them occupying Israel and doing their damndest to reduce Jews to a minority, so that they can get rid of the one Jewish country that is actually the original home of the Jews

        It's been 70 years, and everywhere else in the world, when people have been displaced, they settle down in newer countries and assimilate there, rather than carry that grudge across generations. Like Crimean Tatars in Uzbekistan, or Sindhi Hindus in India. Aside from the people in the West Bank or Gaza, there are Palis who left that area to settle in other countries, such as Tunisia, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, et al. There is no reason why they can't just settle down in those countries, and assimilate into their populations

      • The Palestinian's what? I think you a word.

    • So far it is all just talk, no action. So don't get your hopes up. But Trump deserves credit for agreeing to meet, and getting the dialog going. Donald and Jong Un may hit it off, since they have very similar personalities. If the meeting in Pyongyang goes well, maybe Mr Kim can come to the White House for a BBQ later this year.

      • Word on the street is they've already met and hammered out a deal, and a peace treaty (not just a cease fire) is about to be signed.
        He's even been trotting his wife out in public, and they've been acting like typical dignitaries.

        Whether or not it's genuine remains to be seen, but we've never seen such behavior out that regime. If a peace treaty is signed, then there's still a long road to unification, but it would be the eventual goal.

      • So far it is all just talk, no action. So don't get your hopes up. But Trump deserves credit for agreeing to meet, and getting the dialog going. Donald and Jong Un may hit it off, since they have very similar personalities. If the meeting in Pyongyang goes well, maybe Mr Kim can come to the White House for a BBQ later this year.

        So Trump likes testing rockets and ballistic missiles every few weeks? Funny, I thought he was against almost all foreign military intervention, and has only reluctantly agreed to things like extending the presence in places like Afghanistan. Doesn't want anybody else's territory either, unlike Rocketman, who'd happily send his tanks into Seoul and Busan if he could

    • by Anonymous Coward

      And watch the media spin like GE's finest turbines.

    • There's just one conditions so NK gives up nukes :
      That the other nations denuclearize also, including of course the US.
      Will the US give up nuclear weapons ? not sure.

    • by Askmum ( 1038780 )
      I'm betting they have run out of uranium.
  • Great news! (Score:5, Informative)

    by Aighearach ( 97333 ) on Friday April 20, 2018 @07:29PM (#56474929) Homepage

    After seeing the picture of Kim Jong-Un blushing while posing with Red Velvet I figured, OK, this might be for real, he might really be ready to focus on trade.

    Plus, China told him he had to do it; he went to China and they went on the news together, and North Korea had agreed to give up their nuclear program, and China had agreed to remain their ally. Sounds like a good deal to me, right?! Good deal for everybody, actually.

    So how do you soften the hearts of the Generals? With kpop. Duh.

    Works for me! I'm more of an AoA fan, but I can totally see Red Velvet being better for this mission.

    • by tomhath ( 637240 )
      Let's hope it turns out better than the fabulous agreement Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter worked out [history.com]. Actually, that one was fabulous for North Korea, they got a few hundred million dollars and didn't give up anything in return.
    • Re:Great news! (Score:4, Informative)

      by hcs_$reboot ( 1536101 ) on Friday April 20, 2018 @07:50PM (#56475057)
      While you read /. from the comfort of your office chair, things might have happened over there. Pressure from China (a meeting at the highest level took place weeks ago + maybe new economic measures), and probably from the US (there are ways to show the guy, KJU, he's not as strong as he thinks he is, a drone throwing an harmless object on his head would induce some stress...). Besides, let's not forget KJU studied in Switzerland and is impregnated with Western culture, he is not as crazy as many think. The whole nuclear mess, killings and other insults might just have been preliminaries for installing a stable situation in NK.
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        This was always Kim's plan. This is what he wants. No pressure required.

        He built up the nuclear and missile programmes to give himself a powerful bargaining chip. He traded insults with Trump to show that he could win the game of brinkmanship, and to build up political capital for when we wanted to talk peace.

        Kim, while ruthless, brutal and guilty of crimes against humanity, has played a blinder here. What remains to be seen is if he wants to reform and open up North Korea, or something else.

    • Now that Choa is gone, AoA just doesn't have it any more.
      • I always said I wanted to hear Hyejeong and Yuna sing more. They seem more focused on acting, though.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    He's also declared that he will stop "first posting"!

  • by jddj ( 1085169 ) on Friday April 20, 2018 @07:30PM (#56474937) Journal

    Wasn't there broad speculation from intelligence recently that their test facility had caved in, killing many?

    • Re:Convenient? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Aighearach ( 97333 ) on Friday April 20, 2018 @07:42PM (#56475013) Homepage

      Not the test facility, just one of the main tunnels under the mountain.

      Reports since then reported work at other nearby sites, presumably working on new tunnels.

      The Chinese have warned them in the past that they were over-using the tunnels and risking a collapse, they just didn't want to do the work of prepping a new tunnel until it actually happened. Workers died, but try to understand; workers at this site are constantly dying, and they bring new ones in. They don't have radiation safety programs. Their system is simpler; important enough people don't have to do that job.

      • Re:Convenient? (Score:4, Insightful)

        by MachineShedFred ( 621896 ) on Friday April 20, 2018 @07:52PM (#56475067) Journal

        When you don't give a shit about workers' lives, money spent on safety is just inefficiency.

        Besides, if a tunnel collapses and kills a bunch of people, that's less people you have to figure out how to feed when your entire country is under famine and you are a 3rd generation petulant asshole who thinks that constant threats to neighbors, ballistic missiles, and crude nuclear arms are more important than food for the citizenry. But don't worry - it's one set of rules for the peasants, and another for you and your cronies. He's still nice and pudgy.

        Ahh, Communism. How great thou art.

      • So basically, the dwarves delved too greedily and too deep?
    • They've had many cave ins, no doubt. But I'm sure they also have more mountains. Some say the one they're using is pretty much swiss cheese at this point, but always skeptical of convenient 'look how our enemy blew off his pecker' narratives..

      What is the range on their estimated nuclear arsenal at this point? IIRC it's in the hundreds of warheads. But all such estimates should be met with suspicion. Who's pulling this number from what orifice exactly?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 20, 2018 @07:31PM (#56474945)

    When the history books record peace in korea because of trump.

    • Wait for the peace Nobel price, shared by the two.
    • It's kind of a relief actually that his term is useful in some way to American interests as opposed to just foreign ones.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    ...is what I'd like to say, but my spidey-sense is tingling on overdrive.

  • This is what happens when Syria and Iran buy all the "surplus" uranium and plutonium and you've run out because of all the tests you've done.

    Now time to milk your "generosity" and "peaceful intentions" so you can feed your country.

  • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Friday April 20, 2018 @07:43PM (#56475019)

    Trump was the only world leader who could speak Kim's language, and that was what finally convinced them to drop a path they had been on through MANY other U.S. presidents.

    This alone makes Trump the greatest president in modern times, greatly eclipsing anything Obama ever did (or even imagined he did).

    Now after we clean up Obama's gift of nuclear weapons to Iran, the world may actually be safer for once...

    • North Korea was never a threat to us. Iran could actually be useful to us, keeping the Saudis in check.

      Doing South Korea's or Saudi Arabia's dirty work doesn't make a president great. What's needed now is better DOMESTIC policy. Stop spending so much on military adventures. Spend on education, infrastructure (no, not public-private partnerships), healthcare. Amnesty all non-violent drug offenders. Legalize marijuana (happy 4/20!), decriminalize the use (sale should be case-by-case, I don't support leg

    • Exactly. This was all a mind thing, there was no real need for NK to develop functional nuclear weapons because no one wanted anything they have and they didn't want anything from anyone else either other than to be left alone. There was no material basis for a conflict, it's only a matter of view, and Trump is quite good at changing people's minds. Well some people's anyway.

    • Uh, how recent exactly do you consider modern?
  • by AndyKron ( 937105 ) on Friday April 20, 2018 @07:44PM (#56475027)
    Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. I call bullshit on Fat Kimmy.
  • by b0s0z0ku ( 752509 ) on Friday April 20, 2018 @07:45PM (#56475029)
    It's a vicious cycle. (1) Blow off a nuke or two, make threats, bluster (2) Get the South and US to negotiate (3) Get food/technical assistance (4) When assistance runs out, go back to (1) We're talking about North Korea -- they have more years' experience with blackmail than the age of the average US official.
    • 1) The United States killed three million Koreans and flattened every city in the north in an illegal war

      2) The United States has overthrown dozens of democracies since the Korean War, replacing many of them with dictatorships, and sometimes for giggles gone back decades later to overthrow those dictatorships (see Iraq)

      3) North Korea's threats are retaliatory - as in 'we'll can strike you if you attack us'. You could also end sanctions that make NK dependent on outside help, too.

      4) The United States has pr [wikipedia.org]

      • can't they be both? spoiled child and afraid of US invasion...
        • by Uberbah ( 647458 )

          Sure, in theory. In reality, North Korea would be legally and morally entitled to a few trillion in reparations for being bombed into rubble and decades of sanctions/practice invasions/terrorist threats.

          So wanting a handful of pennies in comparison and assurances that the United States wont unilaterally attack them - not childish.

  • We should just start making movies for Kim to show at home, with nukes, and Armageddon, Trump begging for mercy, the whole speil.

    Sony could produce a while series of Kim takes over the world movies so he can keep brainwashing his people into believing he is the most powerful and fearless leader in history.

    He can blow smoke out his ass all over NK, and tell them everyone started sending food so he doesn't get a hankering to kick the collective ass of the world again!

    It wouldn't be the worst lie in the histor

  • The Norks will spend the money we give them and test fire another ICBM.

    Cuz it's what they've been doing for the past 30 years, I wish to god there was an ETF that let me bet on the Norks lying in a treaty.
  • That story would have been a very good April fool's joke, but it seems to be a bit late. Perhaps traditions in Korea sets joke time on April 20th?
  • by ve3oat ( 884827 ) on Friday April 20, 2018 @09:07PM (#56475433)
    Who needs more tests once he has perfected the technology. Now begins production in earnest. Rockets plus payloads. Onward and upward!
  • I think Kim Dot Bomb is trying to look like the good guy prior to the meeting with Trump.
    He'll then press the old man's buttons in the meeting until the old man blows and and shouts across the table "your fired!".
    Then walk away saying to the world media "Well I was happy to negotiate but Trump was his usual self and blew it. I'll keep my bombs since this guy is the dangerous one"

  • If nothing else, Trump finally got Democrats to distrust communists ...
  • KJU: "we don't need to do more tests now that we have a working weapon"
    source: "Kim has committed himself to the path of denuclearization".

    These are very different paths.

  • I guess some people might be too young or have too short memories, but this is nothing new.
    It's a tactic played well by his father that he must've learned exactly how to play from an young age.
    Make threats and become belligerent when a new US president shows up, escalate aggression, call the world's attention, put everyone on high alert. Internally you ramp up nationalism, tell citizens their way of living is being threatened, ramp up defense, the leader gets to say he'll do everything to defend the "greate

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