Russia Secretly Helped Venezuela Launch a Cryptocurrency To Evade US Sanctions (time.com) 109
According to an exclusive report by Time, Russia helped Venezuelan officials create the world's first state-backed cryptocurrency to skirt U.S. sanctions. The cryptocurrency was launched in late February and was banned by the Trump administration earlier this week. From the report: The new cryptocurrency, a form of digital cash that is supposedly linked to the value of Venezuela's oil reserves, was launched on Feb. 20 during a ceremony in the presidential palace in Caracas. Nicolas Maduro, the socialist leader of Venezuela, declared that it would serve as a kind of "kryptonite" against the power of the U.S government, which he sarcastically referred to as "Superman." Sitting in the front row at that ceremony were two of Maduro's Russian advisers, Denis Druzhkov and Fyodor Bogorodsky, whom the President thanked for aiding his fight against American "imperialism." Both men have ties to major Russian banks and billionaires close to the Kremlin. But they were not the most senior Russians involved. According to an executive at a Russian state bank who deals with cryptocurrencies, senior advisers to the Kremlin have overseen the effort in Venezuela, and President Vladimir Putin signed off on it last year. "People close to Putin, they told him this is how to avoid the sanctions," says the executive, who spoke to TIME on condition of anonymity. "This is how the whole thing started."
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or make a lot of bankers really pissed off, if all the nations that dont want to use the US petro-dollar for trade it could put a HUGE dent in the value of the dollar, which is not worth much nowadays anyway, i bet all those central banks around the world tied to the Rothschild bank and the Federal Reserve would be ready to start WW3 over it
I don't think that's actually true because if it was then we would probably see burgeoning cryptocurrencies being absolutely demolished by 51% attacks. The banks could easily afford to commission their own ASIC chips and begin slaughtering cryptocurrencies en mass. That fact that they are not doing this means they don't see it as a true threat.
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"the Rothschild bank"
It wouldn't be /. if warmed up illuminati, jewish world domination theories weren't moderated insightful.
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Just a 7, to get a 10, they need nerve gas and controlling other countries elections and cyber warfare, as well. If Russia was serious about that, they would have done it themselves and not through Venezuela. The obvious partners are Russia and China, from there reaching out to other countries sick of US interference, that didn't happen so stories about Venezuela are just stories. Right now the US is confused, doesn't want Venezuelan oil any more due to falling demand in the near future for fossil fuels, r
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But... but... but... Hillary Clinton lost the election and the only people who care about Putin's involvement in Venezuela's cryptocurrency are butt-hurt snowflakes who can't accept that their candidate lost.
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defended Putin since we do a lot of bad stuff too.
No, that's more the type of thing an old-school Ted Kennedy liberal would do.
How's those sanctions working out? (Score:2, Interesting)
Hope some people got fed (Score:1)
Evade US sanctions (Score:5, Interesting)
Re: Evade US sanctions (Score:1)
Cause itâ(TM)s a failed state, and everything is a shit-show.
How many have died, or will die of starvation now? Anyone keeping track? Nahhh, fucking media doesnâ(TM)t care. But the stench of rotting bodies will eventually waft to neighboring nations.
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Venezuela needs oil to be much more expensive all the time to fully support its failed Communist government.
Re:Evade US sanctions (Score:4, Insightful)
Democracy is an awful way to run a country, but it's the best system we have. - Winston Churchill
Although I have trouble understanding how only having two political parties to vote for makes a "Democracy".
Especially since your guvment have been slowly chipping away at your own constitution for decades, next will be the right to bear arms. Most (if not all) of your nutters who shoots up a school was flagged as a potential risk, but NOTHING was done. WHY? So they can point at the violence and deaths and say, "See, guns are bad, only we the guvment should have them".
America, the land of the not so free.
Reagan shut down a LOT of mental institutions and all those nut jobs have been roaming the streets, it's a recipe for massacres as has been proved again and again, yet NOTHING is done. WHY?
Re:Evade US sanctions (Score:5, Informative)
Democracy is an awful way to run a country, but it's the best system we have. - Winston Churchill
If you're going to quote someone, quote them properly (or at least say your paraphrasing or from memory).
"Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time" - Winston Churchill, 11 November 1947.
The full quote is:
"Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.â¦"
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If you are going to quote someone, quote them properly, with the full quote, and not some paraphrased version.
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So get rid of BOTH FUCKING PARTIES! It's a pretty shit democracy if your ONLY presidential choice is crap and crappier.
So they rescinded that decision and people who are a danger to themselves and others are being kept in new shiny facilities wh
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If the goal was just to evade US sanctions based on dollar, why not just trade oil in ruble or yuan?
It's simple: the sanctions are not based on any specific currency. This bypasses the sanction because "petro" is not a (recognized?) currency.
I would however like to point out that Venezuela has put itself in a precarious position because any motivated nation-state could easily perform a 51% attack on "petro" and utterly destroy it.
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I would however like to point out that Venezuela has put itself in a precarious position because any motivated nation-state could easily perform a 51% attack on "petro" and utterly destroy it.
I'm guessing the blockchain is closed, so Venezuela can control how many clients connect to it. I don't think the Petro is designed for regular people to use, but as a method for the government to do forex trading with other countries.
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Anonymous people always confirm your story (Score:1)
Where would journalism be without them?
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Lol, you sure sound like one.
Leave Venezuela alone (Score:3, Insightful)
Their citizens have suffered enough already. Why focus on one dictator when the world is full of them?
I'm glad Putin did it, even though he's an asshole in general, just like I'm glad Trump reduced H-1B "body-shop" application approvals even though I disagree with most his other stances. I'll give kudos to jerks when they accidentally do right.
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Papers please Comrade..
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That's their problem, not ours. Let's bud out.
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Not disagreeing with your sentiment (e.g. if Trump pulls the NK thing off), but don't you think that this will enable the continuation of the Venezuelan government which is ultimately responsible for its peoples' suffering?
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Erm, the Venezuelan's? Why should America be left with the bag, unless it's the bag you are holding out to collect their oil.
In ANY country you can find a group of people (dissidents) who do not like the current political setup. America is fond of arming these people and sending them in to topple the evil regime, and when these terrorists / freedom fighters get their ass handed to them the USA intervenes directly to help the terrorists
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They're a socialist nation (Score:2)
Tl;DR: We're making an example out of them to support a politic
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I'm not saying they are angels, I'm only saying we should bud out of their business and stop harassing them with bans etc. There's dozens if not hundreds of other dictatorship nations that we don't give a hard time to. If they point weapons at us, that's another matter. Maybe they'll start if we agitate them enough.
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You mean the complete bullshit sanctions? (Score:1, Flamebait)
To put them in place Obama had to claim Venezuela was a threat to the United States. [reuters.com] Even a habitual liar as gifted as Obama had to struggle with that one.
And meanwhile, we're still merrily selling tens of billions in weapons to Saudi Arabia at a time. You know, the country where almost all the 911 hijackers were actually from, and a sponsor of jihadist groups across the middle east.
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Obama is a professional liar like every lawyer, it was not habitual nor was he gifted at lying.
After being elected to office, any politician trying to be popular MUST lie and since they are paid and maintain their job hinging upon that skill; therefore, politicians are professional liars.
National Security is the last resort excuse to justify anything and to the paranoid people with wild imaginations anything is honestly possible. Multiple cogent arguments can be made against Venezuela's threat... I disagree
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Correction: Venezuela is no real threat, I messed up that sentence. Point was that there are different perspectives which can result in logical honest conclusions. The perspectives can involve lies or just be false and obviously dishonest people are involved in creating bubbles of alternative realities for others as a way to control them. This doesn't just happen at Fox News or at that scale. We do it on small scales with people we know-- facebook is loaded with people feeding distorted images of themselv
Secretly? (Score:4, Insightful)
Insert yet more Russian bogeyman waffle (Score:1)
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You seem a bit obsessed with Hilliary Clinton.
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I must say, this latest bout of inane hysteria in mainstream media has been funniest to date. "He did the exact same thing that pretty much every European leader did, must be collusion/treason".
Never seen such a direct admission that European leaders are also colluding/treasonous if narrative spun has any semblance of reality. Literally, everyone is guilty. Can it even be termed collusion if everyone does it? The proper name for universally accepted standard is usually "cooperation".
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As I said, if your position requires essentially everyone around you to be "knownothing trolls and tools", have you ever considered that it's not the world around you that is wrong, but you?
Consider that it's very beneficial for you to be wrong in that scenario. Because if you are wrong, you can fix it. If the world is wrong, you're fucked. Because world owes you nothing. It was here first.
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Russian math education is really doing something right.
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OK, so why did Trump's lawyer pay her $130,000 then?
It's not slander if it's true.
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he asked for sex and exposed himself in 1991 (there was no assault)
Actually exposing yourself to an unwilling person is Sexual Assault. The worst kind of assault.
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It was garbage at Clinton's time too.
Agreed, so can we let this thing go?
Not on your life will the media let something like this go. Not when there is PROFIT to be made. Who cares about the president, or his wife? Who cares about the country? No, the major media outlets have gone tabloid news on us for money...
And by the way... Clinton was impeached for lying under oath in the Paula Jones civil suit... Not for the inappropriate relationship with Lewinsky. But the media didn't care all that much then and didn't drag their darling president
Re: @#$%@ing Russia stories on slashdot continue.. (Score:1)
I too am American and hate antirussia stories. I will definitely unsubscribe from Slashdot.ORG because of it!