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Russian Trolls Created Facebook Events Seen By More Than 300,000 Users (cnn.com) 220

"Posing as American activists, Russian government-linked trolls created 129 Facebook events between 2015 and 2017," writes CNN. An anonymous reader quotes their report: On multiple occasions, the events prompted real Americans to take to the streets. In a written statement Facebook gave to the Senate Intelligence Committee released on Thursday, the social media network said that the events created by one Kremlin-linked troll group were seen by more than 300,000 Facebook users. About 62,500 users marked that they would attend the event, and an additional 25,800 expressed an interest in attending.

Facebook told Congress it does "not have data about the realization of these events," but CNN has previously found evidence that the Russian group successfully convinced Americans to attend the demonstrations. The events were organized on a range of divisive issues and were designed to pit Americans against each other.

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Russian Trolls Created Facebook Events Seen By More Than 300,000 Users

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  • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

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    • Chill (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Okian Warrior ( 537106 ) on Sunday January 28, 2018 @07:59PM (#56023175) Homepage Journal

      On what planet did Putin and his cronies think the West wouldn't throw the kitchen sink at them in retaliation for the election hack?

      Did these mongs REALLY think they could hold us off forever simply by gaslighting us on Twitter? ("there is no proof of collusion, there is no proof of hacking, whatabout this, whatabout that, etc etc). So fucking stupid.

      The arrogance and naivete defies belief.

      First of all, chill. The purpose was to get people riled up and divisive, and by being outraged you are playing into their hand.

      Furthermore, if you are outraged don't propagate by posting about it - that just amplifies the effect.

      Secondly, does this de-ligitimize at least one major riot here in the US? Was there (at least) one instance where US people did not feel strongly enough to protest, but were egged on by outside influences?

      Doesn't that mean that there is *less* discontent in the US than what might be inferred from protests?

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      • by Boronx ( 228853 )

        We sure wouldn't want to create any divisiveness with foreign powers who want to manipulate our elections.

      • First of all, chill. The purpose was to get people riled up and divisive, and by being outraged you are playing into their hand.

        If Americans can stop calling each-other Nazis and snowflakes, and instead unite around Fuck Putin, I'm okay with that.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by AHuxley ( 892839 )
      What "election hack?"?
      One US political leader went to more parts of the USA and gave good speeches the people in that state responded to.
      During the election they voted. The votes got counted and the vote got observed by party officials. People recalled who visited their state and gave a good speech.
      People recalled who stayed in the costal states and did not give good speeches.
      Be nice to more people all over the USA and win an election. No "election hack" needed.
      Just find a candidate who can give a
    • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

      Jesus how long did you have to wait for that first post. You seem to fail to grasp the better the first post, the more likely a paid US government propagandist. Yeah the US government staged coups and murdered millions, when Russia does that in the US, then complain otherwise STFU. The US deep state is disgusting, murderous filth, held in contempt globally by all reasonable people.

      Don't first post morons, you makes you look really stupid and like you have no idea what so ever about the history of /. but ke

  • If the Devil lights your cigarette, can you blame him when you choose to inhale?

    • If the devil engages in a multi-billion dollar campaign designed to call into question the dangers of cigarette smoking while targeting mentally vulnerable people for said campaign then, yes. Yes you can.
      • by bmo ( 77928 )

        >mentally vulnerable people

        The American Public are retards? That's your argument?

        >looks at Trump

        I think you have a point.

        --
        BMO

  • I can see someone doing that just for shits and giggles... and there are many of those folks. Lolz
  • It's a miracle I haven't felt the urge to drive around town attending all of the FB events that show up on my newsfeed. It's almost as if seeing an event listed in that way doesn't compel me to change my mind about a candidate or a policy issue. Amazing! But somehow it probably still cost Hillary the election, I'm sure. I'll check with Rachel Maddow for confirmation on that.
  • Call me crazy, but no one forced these people to go to these events. Were the meetups for the same political topics in person that they were advertised as? Was there some "bait and switch" thing going on here? Did people leave when they found things aren't what they expected?

    If these participants all got together and found solidarity in their shared views, then I'd say the events functioned exactly as they should -- regardless of who organized it. Maybe the people who went are just embarrassed to admit to t

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    • by Anonymous Coward

      >Call me crazy, but no one forced these people to go to these events

      Please. Obviously nobody was forced, noone said that anyone was.

      They were manipulated. Sounds a bit like you have been too.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28, 2018 @09:10PM (#56023565)

      Was there some "bait and switch" thing going on here?

      The goal is to cause chaos. The bait-and-switch approach is that you take advantage of a shocking event (mass shooting, disaster, etc) and let loose your army of bots to organize protests with 100,000 followers on one side, and an opposing event with 100,000 followers on the other side.

      If nothing happens, meh, it cost you nothing except paying some guys in St. Petersburg to shitpost. Try again after the next shocking event.

      If you get lucky, you get 500 protestors on one side of the street, and 500 counterprotestors on the other side of the street, and they start throwing insults, bricks, and molotovs at each other.

      Then you sit back and enjoy the chaos you've created -- not just the localized disruption of the riot but the fact that everybody you lured into a riot leaves with hardened feelings against their opposition.

      Lather, rinse, repeat. More chaos, more violence, and maybe you get really lucky and kick off a civil war. Your greatest geopolitical adversary basically punches itself in the face and off the global stage while you sit back and way "Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!"

      Look upthread -- notice that some of the ACs are vehemently supporting one side of the story, and some of them are just as vehemently supporting the other side. Maybe only a few of them are actual information warfare guys. But it only takes a few to get the rest of the ACs (sincere readers with partisan opinions) to tear at each other's throats.

      Basically, they're doing this in real life: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/trollbait-nobody-is-right [knowyourmeme.com]

      And they're going to keep on doing it as long as it continues to work.

    • by AHuxley ( 892839 )
      The locals would have noticed all the embassy workers herding them to speeches.
      People all over the USA, in all professions, retired, mil, gov had the freedom to listen to the speeches and vote for who they wanted.
      More states liked one candidate who could give a great speech in their state over a candidate who used short media releases.
  • So.. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fred911 ( 83970 ) on Sunday January 28, 2018 @08:36PM (#56023369) Journal

    Some make believe accounts made some make believe events that other accounts (make believe or not) said they were going.

      "not have data about the realization of these events," WFT, CNN?

      A reporter reports about half the story, how hard can it be to research if these said "events" were real or not? My guess, none ever happened. But, isn't a quality news report one that has the complete story? This report isn't sufficiently researched to have any utility besides stirring the pot.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      If you just finished reading the sentence you quoted...

      but CNN has previously found evidence that the Russian group successfully convinced Americans to attend the demonstrations

  • 300,000, That's it? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by OYAHHH ( 322809 ) on Sunday January 28, 2018 @08:47PM (#56023457)

    Look, I'll admit I'm a rank amateur up front. But I reached 1,000,000 eyeballs during the 2016 election.

    If the Ruskies can only pull off 300,000 eyeballs then I am pretty damn impressed with myself.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Monday January 29, 2018 @04:47AM (#56025011) Homepage Journal

      300k is just the fake events that apparently some Americans did actually attend. The number of people who saw Russian posts is higher.

      Anyway, eyeballs are not a good metric. Influence is, but influence is hard to measure. This story is very significant because it appears that there is evidence that people definitely were influenced to the point of attending protests organized by Russia.

      We are slowly moving towards acceptance. First it was "this never happened", then it was "the posts only reached a few hundred people", after that "no one was actually influenced by this stuff".

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Read the post histories of some of the folks on these threads where Mueller, Russia, Trump are involved and try to guess who is associated with Russia propaganda mills. Then go look at the user histories. You think there isn't Russian propaganda active today on /.?

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

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      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by Red Herring ( 47817 )

        I used to post and interact here a lot, but this place has gone the way of reddit and r/theDonald... sad to see a once-relevant tech site get so taken over by politics and shit-posters. Between this and the "5G IS BEING SOCIALIZED OMG FEAR THE CHINESE" article above... wow. Just, wow.

  • by AbRASiON ( 589899 ) * on Sunday January 28, 2018 @09:07PM (#56023549) Journal

    Jesus christ.

    This story never ends, Russia did this, Russia did that, always very little or circumstantial evidence, or something like "up to 6 fake accounts were made, with over 32 followers!"

    Unless something significantly concrete, ground slamming and thorough comes out which outright proves some kind of real huge conspiracy, then all this looks like is crazy people on a witch hunt.

    FUTHERMORE even if it were real, it's up to people to vote with their conscience / brain, assuming they have one.

    On top of this, even IF the Russia email hack Hillary thing is real (or was Russians) the point should be the bloody evidence revealed, don't play the distraction game, if her emails clearly proved she was a liar or trouble or whatever (I don't even know what it was) why are we desperately trying to look the other way?

    Note: NOT an American, didn't even vote in your election and I know Trump is an idiot, but the republicans didn't win your election, the fucking democrats lost it by omitting Bernie.

    So tired of this political stuff on /., what next? Another in depth article about how every single white male programmer is without question a rapist or something?

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

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      • by blind biker ( 1066130 ) on Monday January 29, 2018 @03:18AM (#56024835) Journal

        Why hell, Russian hackers in Cozy Bear were caught red-handed by the Dutch

        At the risk of being called a troll (look at my posting history and tell me if I am one), but for that there really is no proof.

      • Do you honestly believe that Russian hackers not only had an internet-connected camera running inside their national spying agency, but in fact had it aimed so you could see the Red Square? Because while that may make perfect sense in a movie, it really doesn't in real life.

        And why would the Dutch give away such a massive advantage? Why not just keep spying? Ah wait, let me answer that: because in the Netherlands there is a lot of discussion at the moment about a new law that would massively increase the po

  • "Posing as American activists, Russian government-linked trolls created 129 Facebook events between 2015 and 2017,"

    What, 129 "events" over the course of three years? That isn't even one a week!

    Too bad CNN lacks the ability to research any of these so-called "events", I guess they don't have access to any historical information about what went on in the country between 2015 and 2017.

    • and 300,000 people saw them....so essentially, almost no facebook users even saw these "events"

      Reminds my of our pathetic marketing department trying to justify our website almost no one looks at...so they count "impressions" rather than report the dismal number of unique visitors.

    • that's an average of over 3 a month, maybe not quite once a week, but not infrequently.

      But it only takes 1 post to inflame opinions which might lead to those people inflaming OTHER people.

      Let me give you an example of an instance on Slashdot. I don't believe it was russian trolling but an example of how one person can inflame opinion.

      There was a discussion of how tech had changed how EBT (Food stamps) operated. Someone, I can't remember if it was an AC or not mentioned that they'd seen someone getting cas

  • That's what the head of that organization in St. Petersburg deserves. Seriously, to start multiple street demos, brawls and riots in a different countries just by few keystroke.

      !

  • The first thing I look for is the source - once I saw "CNN" I read no further. CNN is no longer a source of integrity, has never been since 2000 when I cut cable TV out of my life.

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