State Prison Officials Blame An Escape On Drones And Cellphones (usatoday.com) 223
An anonymous reader quotes USA Today:
A fugitive South Carolina inmate recaptured in Texas this week had chopped his way through a prison fence using wire cutters apparently dropped by a drone, prison officials said Friday. Jimmy Causey, 46, fled the Lieber Correctional Institution in Ridgeville, S.C., on the evening of July 4th after leaving a paper mache doll in his bed to fool guards into thinking he was asleep. He was not discovered missing until Wednesday afternoon. Causey was captured early Friday 1,200 miles away in a motel in Austin by Texas Rangers acting on a tip, WLTX-TV reported... "We believe a drone was used to fly in the tools that allow(ed) him to escape," South Carolina Corrections Director Bryan Stirling said...
Stirling said prison officials are investigating the performance by prison guards that night but pointed to cellphones and drones as the main problem. The director said he and other officials have sought federal help for years to combat the use of drones to drop contraband into prison. "It's a simple fix," Stirling said. "Allow us to block the signal... They are physically incarcerated, but they are not virtually incarcerated."
It's the second time the same convict escaped from South Carolina's maximum security prison -- albeit the first time he's (allegedly) used a drone. The state's Law Enforcement Division Chief also complains that the federal government still prohibits state corrections officials from blocking cellphones, and "as long as cellphones continue to be utilized by inmates in prisons we're going to have things like this -- we're going to have very well-planned escapes..."
Stirling said prison officials are investigating the performance by prison guards that night but pointed to cellphones and drones as the main problem. The director said he and other officials have sought federal help for years to combat the use of drones to drop contraband into prison. "It's a simple fix," Stirling said. "Allow us to block the signal... They are physically incarcerated, but they are not virtually incarcerated."
It's the second time the same convict escaped from South Carolina's maximum security prison -- albeit the first time he's (allegedly) used a drone. The state's Law Enforcement Division Chief also complains that the federal government still prohibits state corrections officials from blocking cellphones, and "as long as cellphones continue to be utilized by inmates in prisons we're going to have things like this -- we're going to have very well-planned escapes..."
In SC prisons the real problem are the guards (Score:5, Interesting)
Trust me on this, if you've ever been to a SC prison, you know the guards are the real problem. They're paid shit and are often just ghetto thugs themselves. This is the perfect formula for guards willing to look the other way or even help for a small bribe. There have been numerous escapes in recent years where it was later revealed that the guards themselves had smuggled in handcuff keys and bolt-cutters to help in escapes.
Bryan Sterling was a pure political appointee who wants to distract from the real problem by blaming drones, cellphones and other bullshit excuses so he can continue to insist that his agency doesn't need additional funding to hire decent guards and staff. He and other directors were under direct orders from Nikki Haley to never ask for a budget increase, and I suspect he's still under similar orders from Henry McMaster. It's an ongoing problem in a state where the Republican status quo is to continuously cut taxes to appease their political benefactors, no matter the consequences.
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Prisons are such a money sink already.
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The education system could be designed so that half the student population is pigeon holed towards a future of occupying cells of a for profit prison. The other half the student population would be pigeon holed into menial labor jobs that generate enough domestic GDP to (1) keep the for-profit prisons operating efficiently, and
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Yup, that seems to be the American model. I prefer the Nordic model where prisons are run more like colleges with a view to rehabilitation so that when people are released they're more likely to be fully functional citizens and less likely to re-offend. The fact that some of those countries are closing prisons for lack of inmates says it all. For that to happen in America would mean dumping the market fundamentalist idea that putting everything in the private sector makes it work better.
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The solution is simple: turn prisons from money sinks to money fridges.
Re: In SC prisons the real problem are the guards (Score:4, Insightful)
Turn prisons back to prisons instead of making them profit centers for the private prison complex and you'll not only see cheaper but also better run prisons.
Seriously, I've seen what prisons cost in the US and ... let's put it that way, for that per-capita price I'd expect to see those prison bars be made of solid gold.
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I think there are already plans afoot to get rid of private prisons in this country. Private prisons are being phased out... at least for now, unless Trump or a later President decides to reverse that decision.
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Justice Dept rescinds order phasing out private prisons [latimes.com]. Feb 23.
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Ahem. [nytimes.com]
Re: In SC prisons the real problem are the guards (Score:4, Insightful)
That really sucks, I had missed that bit of news.
No excuse for that.
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No excuse for that.
I mean, there's an excuse for it, you and I just don't like what the excuse is.
Re: In SC prisons the real problem are the guards (Score:5, Insightful)
I think there are already plans afoot to get rid of private prisons in this country. Private prisons are being phased out... at least for now, unless Trump or a later President decides to reverse that decision.
Are you nuts? While it's not really true Jeff sessions owns private prisons [snopes.com] it most certainly is true private prisons lobbied trump lavishly, and he accepted the money including over 250k usd for just the inauguration [usatoday.com]. Further Trumps cleansing of America of immigrants requires a detainment period at, you guessed it, prison of which many are private. It's no wonder Sessions is bringing back 1960s hystaria around marijuana and minor offenses either, the shitshow of how private prisons are run in the USA needs to end but is instead expanding [bloomberg.com].
Re: In SC prisons the real problem are the guards (Score:5, Informative)
Look, I share your concern about for-profit prisons and I recently went to a conference that was largely about the issue. They should be abolished. However, they can also be a red herring here. According to Pew:
In 2015, just 8% of the nearly 1.53 million state and federal prisoners in the U.S. were in private facilities, up slightly from 5% in 1999. (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/11/u-s-private-prison-population-has-declined-in-recent-years/)
For-profit prisons represent a very tiny portion of the overall prison system, and so while they may be a symptom of the deeper problems with the system overall, they are not in and of themselves the cause. We can abolish these for-profit prisons, but just like taking cough medicine, it will not do away with the deeper causes of the problem.
Besides that, the actual prison mentioned in the abstract is not a for-profit prison, but a maximum security state-run prison.
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Well, stop locking up people for non-crimes (and crimes that are almost non-crimes that should be handled with fines or community work) and you're set. But as long as your justice system is based on revenge instead of deterrent and paying back society...
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Odd. We have all that too in our prisons and the cost isn't going through the roof.
some people us prisons are there doctory (Score:3)
some people us prisons are there doctor for the stuff that the ER does not cover.
Deflection (Score:3, Insightful)
When someone can escape a prison with a pair of wire cutters, a drone is not the problem. How did he get access to the fence? Why does it only take the possession of a pair of wire cutters to escape the prison?
This is a "think about the children" moment where the signal blocking technology is what they want, but not the problem.
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The problem is that a fence is supposed to keep a criminal in. I don't know, but back where I live we use walls and steel bars, inside the walls and as replacement of windows, to do the trick.
And behold it works.
Re:Deflection (Score:5, Interesting)
Evidently SC prisons lack all these high falutin technologicnal type features. So a prisoner can walk up to the fence and cut a hole in it and wander off without anyone realizing what has happened until they realize the "body" in his bed hasn't moved in a couple days.
The Drone is the least of their problems. Though it's also a simple problem. Tell the guards, any drone that approaches the fence-line is a skeet target. No more drone problems.
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...at least until drones come back armed. Guess drone warfare ain't so cool anymore when it's on your own soil.
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Back in Russia, they just use Siberia. No fence. No wall. You want to stay. Trust me.
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When someone can escape a prison with a pair of wire cutters, a drone is not the problem.
He wouldn't HAVE the wire cutters if someone didn't fly them in on a drone. The drone is very much a problem in this case.
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He wouldn't HAVE the wire cutters if someone didn't fly them in on a drone. The drone is very much a problem in this case.
NO, the drone is a result of real problems, such as lax security and protocols. Most likely, the guards weren't being paid to look the other way when inmates have cell phones and there weren't adequate measures in place to prevent an inmate from being in an escape position with a pair of wire cutters.
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Having never been inside the prison I couldn't make an educated guess on whether there was lower than stand security at play. I would certainly think it should be standard procedure at prisons to block cell phones and do routine searches, but I'm not an expect as to what actually happens (and why that might not happen).
I will say, the drone DID directly have an impact on the escape though. One can assume that since they used that method to get wire cutters to him, that was presumed to be a more reliable m
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I would certainly think it should be standard procedure at prisons to block cell phones
Unless you build a Faraday cage around the prison, those ideologically blessed jamming waves have a tendency to get out and jam law abiding citizens cell phones. Fortunately at these frequencies the signals aren't going to go far. But if you cover the entire prison ground, interior, offices, and courtyard, and at least in our local one, maybe fifty square miles of fields where prisoners might be working - which an interstate runs through, you are blanketing a pretty large area with jamming RF.
Then again
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I know you can buy small devices that block cell phone signals locally over a small area.
Understandably illegal; but were it legal for prisons they could theoretically have multiple low power devices placed around a prison rather than a big powerful one that will impact a larger area.
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I saw one suggestion to put up walls instead of fences. Certainly, this would be a better solution for preventing escapes and I hope high security prisons all have walls. Clearly this comes with a lot more expense so might not be practical for all prisons.
What expense? Bricks are cheap, manual labor is free.
All in all it's probably cheaper than a fence.
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What expense? Bricks are cheap, manual labor is free.
All in all it's probably cheaper than a fence.
So if we arrest a bunch of Mexicans we can make the Mexicans pay for the walls (with free labor)?
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Here is an idea: How about signal detection instead! OMG. It would mean that cell phones could be used in designated parts of the prison occupied only by staff. It would mean that cell phone signals in pr
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The FCC should make a simple rule (Score:4, Insightful)
If the prison pays for all outgoing and incoming calls, then they may block cellphone calls.
Prisons have instituted ridiculously expensive phone plans to help pay for their costs.
This is wrong, placing an undue burden on both the families and the prisoners. Wealthy prisoners should not be allowed to buy a better prison experience, which means you can not overcharge prisoners for so called luxuries.
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Yeah, when the call for your pizza is more expensive than the pizza itself...
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But the pizza with the correct ingredients will be worth every cent.
"Hello Papa Jo's"
"Hello I'd like a Hawaiian with wirecutters baked into the crust, and completely covered in anchovies."
"Why all the anchovies?"
"Get it past the guards".
"It'll be there in 30min and you're free".
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Like, "There's a guard giving me trouble, kill his wife." Or, "No, we need $1100 per kilo. If they
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They should be able to block cell phones because prisoners aren't allowed to have unfettered and unmonitored communications with anyone but their lawyers.
Are you willing to have everyone in the vicinity of the prison to have their cell phone service blocked as well?
Because that is what you are proposing.
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Well, I don't think that's a problem really....most any prison I know of, is WAAAAY out side the any cities, isolated on rural lands, where the nearest neighbor is miles away.
They could jam away and not bother anyone really.
It isn't like prisons are built close by to cities, etc. for many reasons.
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Correct prisoners should not be able to buy a better experience. They should NOT be permitted any outgoing calls except to their legal representation.
Re:The FCC should make a simple rule (Score:5, Insightful)
They should NOT be permitted any outgoing calls except to their legal representation.
Blocking all calls to friends and family could be considered a violation of the 8th amendment (cruel and unusual punishment). I don't think blocking communication with what may be the more stable elements in a prisoner's life to be a good step in reducing reoffending rates.
If they don't talk to the outside, they talk to the inside.
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Prisons have instituted ridiculously expensive phone plans to help pay for their costs.
This is wrong, placing an undue burden on both the families and the prisoners.
More to the point of the article, it creates what economists would call a market distortion [investopedia.com] that encourages a thriving black market in cellphones. As long as they don't allow phone service at anything approaching market rates, there will be black market phone service. This is as close as economics has to an immutable law. This situation is no different than the USSR back in the day trying (and failing miserably) to set their own currency conversion rates. Or Canute trying to order the tide.
So the contraba
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Mod parent up, +4 isn't high enough.
My dumbass brother in law is in prison and deserves to be there. For him to call us costs $8 for a 10 minute call. Loading $20 onto the phone account through an automated voice prompt system charges a $3 fee too.
It's an abuse of power. Even worse, crime correlates strongly with poverty, so it's an abuse against those that can literally least afford it.
I can't help but feel that we could lower prison violence and criminal recidivism if we treated prisoners like human be
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If the prison pays for all outgoing and incoming calls, then they may block cellphone calls.
In America, jamming radio is illegal. People can and do get some hefty fines when they try it. Doesn't matter who is paying.
Unfortunately, too few people understand that you can't jam teh evilz prizzoner's cell phone without jamming everyone else's phones in the vicinity.
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Prisons have instituted ridiculously expensive phone plans to help pay for their costs.
Well, no, the ridiculously expensive phone plans are there purely for profit, there is no such concept as "help paying for costs" when we are mostly talking about highly profitable private prisons.
The whole problem starts by having for-profit prisons in the first place - it is wrong for so many reasons, e.g. they benefit if you are a repeat "customer", what they call "profit" I call state tax dollar waste etc.
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Not a solution (Score:4, Insightful)
At this point, premade UAVs can easily be reprogrammed to be fully autonomous (with minimal skill) and microwave jamming won't do anything to stop it. What's really needed here is for the prison guards to actually... guard the prison. -_-
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At this point, premade UAVs can easily be reprogrammed to be fully autonomous (with minimal skill) and microwave jamming won't do anything to stop it. What's really needed here is for the prison guards to actually... guard the prison. -_-
With minimal skill, most drones will land or otherwise not function correctly if you jam the gps signal, which is in the microwave range. Inertial and gyroscopic measurements lose accuracy quickly without gps to fuse the data accurately.
That said I'm certainly not in favor of private prisons just ruining Gps for everyone in a large radius because of thier sloppy practices and cost cutting measures.
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At this point, premade UAVs can easily be reprogrammed to be fully autonomous (with minimal skill) and microwave jamming won't do anything to stop it. What's really needed here is for the prison guards to actually... guard the prison. -_-
Go old school- guards on the wire armed with shotguns loaded with bird shot. Then it's just a matter of a little trap shooting if a drone flies over. It's also easy to quickly reload a shotgun to either buckshot or less lethal rounds such as bean bags in the case of a riot(or just use the birdshot, should work fine for crowd control at a distance), assault, or escape attempt. Plus it's a lot cheaper than trying to use a jammer to bring down drones.
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Go old school- guards on the wire armed with shotguns loaded with bird shot. Then it's just a matter of a little trap shooting if a drone flies over. It's also easy to quickly reload a shotgun to either buckshot or less lethal rounds such as bean bags in the case of a riot(or just use the birdshot, should work fine for crowd control at a distance), assault, or escape attempt. Plus it's a lot cheaper than trying to use a jammer to bring down drones.
I'm not convinced that that IS a cheaper solution. How many extra full time employees do you have to hire to stand around the perimeter looking for drones to shoot? What sort of extra liability are you opening yourself up for having that many extra guards armed 24/7?
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Blocking the signal won't stop this. (Score:3)
Drone flights can be automated so that once released, they fly the predetermined route and drop the payload.
LK
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In the absence of reliable GPS, a drone can also be programmed to follow a route using inertial guidance and/or a ground-facing camera, neither of which can be jammed.
"Blame" (Score:4, Informative)
It is 21st century (Score:2)
The correctional officers should definitively learn to pilot an electric RC FPV glider, and soar above the prison, watching for drones, pilots on the ground, and other suspect activity. A glider can be in the air for hours with one battery.
I can built such a glider at home from readily available components. Surely the mighty US state is capable to do it too and stop
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You're right. Criminals would be the ones to ignore any such ban; however, right now the police have no way of going after anyone trying to smuggle stuff into a prison, unless they actually succeed.
"I'm just flying my drone around officer, I'm doing nothing wrong- show me where in the law book it says you can't fly a drone with wire cutters taped to the bottom? I put them there for ballast."
The person on the outside operates with almost no risk. A law preventing operation around the jail might stop a few
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Or you know just place a net over the prison so drones can't land/drop stuff into the yard.
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Technology clearly to blame for this. (Score:2)
Jimmy Causey, 46, fled the Lieber Correctional Institution in Ridgeville, S.C., on the evening of July 4th after leaving a paper mache doll in his bed to fool guards into thinking he was asleep. He was not discovered missing until Wednesday afternoon.
Recent advances in paper mache technology have moved beyond the limits where society can control them, and are clearly to blame for this escape. Paper mache obviously must be banned from all prisons and areas near them, as well as public parks, schools, and tattoo parlors. Paper mache has no legitimate uses that I can imagine, therefore only criminals use paper mache.
Cell phones? (Score:2)
No jamming allowed. Deal with contraband phones. (Score:2)
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What about drug smuggling? (Score:2)
If... (Score:5, Informative)
If a drone can fly over the fence and drop tools to a prisoner, how intrinsically different is that than basically THROWING the tools over the fence?
Sure the drone is a lot more accurate, but heck of a lot noisier too.
I smell excuse-hunting here; this guy already escaped them once (how is it that every jackass with a DWI can get an ankle monitor, yet a prisoner IDENTIFIED as a successful escapee doesn't have one?). On the second escape, they're looking harder to CYA than to find him.
old news (Score:2)
Faraday cage (Score:3)
Re:What I would like to know: (Score:4, Funny)
Clearly he smuggled it up is ass
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That was Candyland even Cartman nor cremier have an ass big enough to fit Disneyland in..
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FTFS - "The state's Law Enforcement Division Chief also complains that the federal government still prohibits state corrections officials from blocking cellphones"
https://www.fcc.gov/general/jamming-cell-phones-and-gps-equipment-against-law
Re:What I would like to know: (Score:4, Informative)
I don't understand how that's supposed to address the drone problem. So you can't fly under manual control? Fine, fly to GPS coordinates and do everything automatically. A prison yard isn't exactly a small target, you don't need precision. Are they planning to jam GPS too? Fine, you're not talking a long flight, inertial guidance [sbg-systems.com] on a calm day should do it.
With the amount of money involved in drug smuggling, I don't think any of this poses a hindrance except to amateurs with no connections. So unless they're planning to HERF or shoot drones out of the sky...
Re:What I would like to know: (Score:4, Interesting)
Drug dealers have known to use catapults.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/15/... [cnn.com]
I doubt eliminating drones completely will have ANY significant affect on our nationals drug problem overall.
Re:What I would like to know: (Score:4, Insightful)
Of course not, because the problem with drugs is that they are illegal. Drug prohibition is the stupidest policy in the Western world.
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I don't understand how that's supposed to address the drone problem. So you can't fly under manual control? Fine, fly to GPS coordinates and do everything automatically. A prison yard isn't exactly a small target, you don't need precision. Are they planning to jam GPS too?
Careful - you are giving them ideas.
Maybe this isn't a good time to note that the drone was probably controlled by wi-fi if not GPS coordinates, so we need to allow wi-fi jamming as well
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I don't quite see why they need to jam mobile signal. I would instead listen/record/process all the incoming/outgoing calls.
Trace them and all illegal users would be caught.
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FTFS - "The state's Law Enforcement Division Chief also complains that the federal government still prohibits state corrections officials from blocking cellphones"
https://www.fcc.gov/general/jamming-cell-phones-and-gps-equipment-against-law
Well yeah. We have a tendency not to allow that becaise thase darn radio waves don't just stay in and around the prison.
It's fun to be reactionary, to figure out how to never ever allow prisoners to use drones and to block their cellphones, any more in perpetuity.
But it is hard to imagine that the same people demanding prisons use jamming techniques would not act like whiny little bitches when they find out that their phones are jammed as well.
Damn physics anyway, getting in the way of ideology!
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As an electrician I would like to see Ohms law forbidden. It would make my job a lot easier if I could just coax the electrons to do what o want them to do instead of what they want to do.
Re: What I would like to know: (Score:2, Insightful)
Why not just put a net over the whole place?
Far cheaper. You can't possibly block every single signal that could be used to operate a drone. That's just asking for homemade solutions to get around that.
Why? (Score:2)
So a guard at the prison (or an elderly grandma nearby) has a heart attack and calls 911. Opps! Sorry, no cellular coverage. You're life is not as important as maintaining America's record as the world's largest incarcerater.
Re:Why? (Score:5, Insightful)
If only there was a way to put a small cell tower inside a prison and watch what calls were being made.
Some sort of triangulation device might be useful, too.
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Something named after some type of fish that the gov't may have used to put some of them in there in the first place?
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I've never heard of hammerhead shark phone tracker.
Re:What I would like to know: (Score:4, Interesting)
Because jamming creates a safety hazard for innocent people.
We should probably start by making assisting/aiding an incarcerated person's escape attempt, or facilitating a person in eluding authorities crimes punishable with much greater severity, instead of the current minor penalties. They should also depend on what crimes the escaped people committed.... springing an offender with a life sentence out of jail should land a minimum of 30 years on the violator.
Make it a misdemeanor just to fly a non-commercial aircraft within 500ft horizontal distance of a prison facility at a height of less than 1000ft.
Finally, they should employ means of detecting drones: monitor them closely, train their employees accordingly, and identify/pick up any dropped items --- basically, more vigilant guarding.
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From someone who has been to prison. First off there are people serving life sentences for weed. They should be let out or atleast get a reduced sentence as a lot of America has or is in the process of decriminalizing weed. Second your part about the guards guarding. They sit in the bubble(what inmates call the locked room the guards few safe in) and they play on their cell phone and look thru the naked pictures of the inmates girlfriends that get sent in. If they had to actually work they would complain. T
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Where did he get the drone?
He didn't. Someone on the outside used a drone to fly wire cutters to him on the inside.
(goes along with the whole idea of prisons wanting to make it illegal to fly drones around prisons that Slashdotters got angry about last year because it violated their rights to fly drones wherever they wanted)
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Re:What I would like to know: (Score:4, Interesting)
I DO have a right to fly drones near prisons. There NO LAW AGAINST IT.
But should there be? We have laws restricting drone usage around airports. I know some people are worried about some sort of precedent where dones are blocked from more and more places... but it makes sense to set up exclusion zones around prisons.
Naturally, the very people such a law would be written to stop would be the same people that would be more willing to break the law... but it makes the act of preparing the smuggle stuff into prisons using drones more risky for the person on the outside. If you're flying a drone outside a jail with wirecutters strapped to them- it would make it legal for police to arrest you.
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If you're flying a drone outside a jail with wirecutters strapped to them- it would make it legal for police to arrest you.
Sorry, officer -- what do you mean? That's not MY drone still hovering over the yard. The other one, I mean MY drone is still sitting right here. I was just playing with the flight controls before launch. I don't know who that one belongs to. Oh, gee, I forgot to bring my battery -- I'll be right back.
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OI THIS IS SLASHDOT! We don't have room for common sense here. Either tell us that you want to ban all harmful activity or you're a slimy trump supporter!
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From the prison workshop's 3D printer of course.
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Unlikely. Those 3D printers are busy using Ninjaflex to print RealDolls 24/7.
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From Amazon.com, where else?
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Make inmates wear tamper-resistant collars with a grenade attached. They mess with the collar, they get blown up, and so does anyone else that was messing with the collar. Also make it so that the collars can be remote detonated. Someone escapes a California prison and goes to Maine? One phone call, and the felon's body gets ripped to shreds. :) Bonus points if his or her family members also get blown up.
Someone's been watching too much Running Man. Where are we going to find a sufficiently sadistic game show host for phase 2?
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Seriously? There are a whole slew of congress critters voting to take away people's health care and try to starve poor people. They don't even think themselves to be savages.
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The mesh is a good idea; I suspect you might be able to drop things "in parts" through the mesh though unless it was very fine mesh. Parts to assemble a rudimentary wire cutter dropped one at a time through the mesh.
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A surgical tube slingshot can shoot wirecuters over the fence too. Or a homemade, easy set up, catapult. Another sensationalized witch hunt against new and not comprehended tech.
Perhaps they can but a slingshot or catapult can't get the wire cutters to the right place. Especially since there are multiple fences spaced apart. the person operating the catapult would probably not be able to see who they are delivering the goods too.
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