Elon Musk and Uber CEO Travis Kalanick Will Advise Trump On Business Issues (theverge.com) 244
SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Uber CEO Travis Kalanick have joined President-elect Trump's Strategic and Policy Forum, which will regularly meet with the soon-president to advise on business issues, the Trump transition team said in a statement. From a report on The Verge: The now 19-member council, established earlier this month, also includes Disney CEO Bob Iger and IBM CEO Ginni Rometty. Members will "share their specific experience and knowledge as the President implements his economic agenda," according to the transition statement. PepsiCo CEO Indra Nooyi also joins today. The announcement suggests a new link between the president-elect and Silicon Valley, which has been generally wary of the Trump presidency, with the notable exception of Facebook board member and Valley billionaire Peter Thiel, who supported Trump despite controversy and has been working as an adviser for the transition team.
Uber (Score:2)
Uber... such an ethical company.
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Let me know when Tesla uses its on-vehicle software to track where its users are going for political or personal reasons and hires private investigators to dig up dirt on critical journalists, while basing its entire business model on breaking local laws, on the premise that by the time localities go after them it's already expanded into bigger markets and can either "go legit" or simply leave the smaller markets that are cracking down.
tinfoils (Score:3)
Looks like the tinfoil hats are a dime a dozen amongst slashdot's proletariat, given that every company is evil
Uber has the tracking that it does b'cos in some places, there have been cases of drivers assaulting passengers, and they are the ones held accountable for that. So they have to cooperate w/ local authorities, unlike the average /. poster who openly writes about how to subvert or break the law. As for classifying themselves as a ride sharing service, as opposed to a taxi service, they are free
Lol, this is "swamp draining"? (Score:2)
Using billionaires like Elon Musk and Travis Kalanick to tell you what to do is "swamp draining"?
Yeah, drain that swamp and fill it with....billionaires.
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Using billionaires like Elon Musk and Travis Kalanick to tell you what to do is "swamp draining"?
No, no, he is draining the swamp. Draining it right into his advisory board and cabinet. He never said where he was draining it into. And anyway his voters didn't take him literally apparently but they did take him seriously. So they have no idea what he's going to do, but they're damn sure he'll do it.
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Re:Lol, this is "swamp draining"? (Score:5, Insightful)
Billionaires who will at least be less likely to be bought off by lobbyists...it's potentially a different kind of corruption, but at least it's different.
It's not different, it's just closer. Previously, very rich men would pay lobbyists to lobby the advisors. Now they've cut out the middle men and the very rich men simply advise.
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Previously, very rich men would pay lobbyists to lobby the advisors. Now they've cut out the middle men and the very rich men simply advise.
This is it in a nutshell. They've streamlined the process of corruption.
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They've streamlined the process of corruption
#MAGA
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>#MAGA
Make America Greedy Again?
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Make America Greedy Again?
If the shoe fits...
PS are you still convinced I'm a Trump supporter?
This is swamp draining (Score:5, Insightful)
Using billionaires like Elon Musk and Travis Kalanick to tell you what to do is "swamp draining"?
Yeah, drain that swamp and fill it with....billionaires.
The swamp is filled with political elites and insiders. How is using non-political insiders *not* draining the swamp?
To put this in terms of information theory, the term "elite" is a measurement, and as such should come with units. We usually don't show the units when we make that measurement, but this can lead to confusion.
So for example, LeBron James is an elite athlete, where "athlete" is the units of measurement. Trump could appoint LeBron to his cabinet, that would be putting an "elite" in charge, and it would still be draining the swamp because LeBron is not an elite politician.
The measurement units are different. An elite athlete is not the same as an elite politician, and calling both of them "elite" just confuses the matter.
Trump himself is an "elite", only the unit of measurement in this case is "financial". Elon Musk is also a financial elite.
"Draining the swamp" refers to removing corruption, which implies getting rid of the "political" elite.
It makes sense to take advice from elites in other units of measurement, because elites generally get to be elite because of their skill and experience.
Elites in charge are fine, so long as they are elites due to skill, and not politics.
Re:This is swamp draining (Score:4, Insightful)
"Draining the swamp" refers to removing corruption, which implies getting rid of the "political" elite.
So in your book, removing corruption is replacing one group who want to enrich themselves with another group who want to enrich themselves?
Elites in charge are fine, so long as they are elites due to skill, and not politics.
Just by the way, politics is a skill.
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So in your book, removing corruption is replacing one group who want to enrich themselves with another group who want to enrich themselves?
To be fair, the idea is that group that is getting replaced was enriching themselves through bribery and corruption. The new group will hopefully try to enrich themselves by making laws and regulations less hostile to business.
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To be fair, the idea is that group that is getting replaced was enriching themselves through bribery and corruption. The new group will hopefully try to enrich themselves by making laws and regulations less hostile to business.
You mean -> The new group will enrich themselves by making laws and regulations less hostile to their own specific business interest...
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Yep, get rid of those political insiders who are so terrible because they are beholden to big money special interests. Let's replace them with, hmm, direct representatives of those big money special interests.
Elites in different fields (Score:2)
So you think there is a meaningful distinction between "political" elites and "financial" elites? Wow!
I also think there is a distinction between an elite athlete and a financial elite.
You don't? Wow!
(Also, Arnold Schwarzenegger is elite both as a politician and finance and athletics, as was John Glen.)
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It sounds like the only thing you would accept is for the appointees to have no political exposure whatsoever. This same argument happens over regulatory captures: People hear that the person leading the FDA had experience working with a drug company. OMG! That's a conflict of interest! No - that's called "experience." You would not want someone in a leadership position who knew nothing about the topic.
"Draining the swap" doesn't mean "appoint people who don't know anything about the subject and have n
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It sounds like the only thing you would accept is for the appointees to have no political exposure whatsoever.
No, I never said that. If you recall, I was pointing out the complete and total disconnect between what Donald Trump said he would do versus what he's doing.
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You would not want someone in a leadership position who knew nothing about the topic.
You're right, I wouldn't. Like Donald Trump as the president of the United States. He's never held any office ever, never even been appointed as dogcatcher, but somehow he's the perfect guy to be the leader of the world's most powerful nation? Makes perfect sense.
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No, "drain the swamp" refers to a particular set of 5 or 6 policies from this speech [donaldjtrump.com].
First: I am going to institute a 5-year ban on all executive branch officials lobbying the government after they leave government service.
Second: I am going to ask Congress to institute its own 5-year ban on lobbying by former members of Congress and their staffs.
Third: I am going to expand the definition of lobbyist so we close all the loopholes that former government officials use by labeling themselves consultants and advisors when we all know they are lobbyists.
Fourth: I am going to issue a lifetime ban against senior executive branch officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.
Fifth: I am going to ask Congress to pass a campaign finance reform that prevents registered foreign lobbyists from raising money in American elections.
There is another major announcement I am going to make today as part of our pledge to drain the swamp in Washington. If I am elected President, I will push for a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress.
"Draining the swamp" has nothing to do with his cabinet or advisers. However, leftists and the lefty media have picked up the term as demoralization propaganda by either actually not knowing what it means and making up their own definition (which of course Trump will never fit) or by knowing what it means and lying about it. That's the thing when dealing with a lefty. You always have to figure out if they're one of the stup
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"Draining the swamp" has nothing to do with his cabinet or advisers.
Boy, you got that shit right.
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What, you didn't expect a big stink when a swamp is drained?
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What, you didn't expect a big stink when a swamp is drained?
Good point.
Well.. (Score:5, Funny)
On the one hand, the fox is advising us that we're spending too much on henhouse fencing.
Then again, we should probably listen to him, as he has a degree in hen studies.
Escaped Mental Patient From Intel Needs Help (Score:2, Troll)
I am an escaped mental patient from Intel corporation in Hillsboro, Oregon (Retired for those of you with an IQ of less than -1) and I need some help.
Do any of you, particularily if you are in the great asylum of Intel, know where Intel's MCM leadership (BK and his direct reports) stand on Trump? I seem to have heard silence from my vantage point up here in the Shang-gre-la of Bellingham, Washington on what is happening between Intel and Trump.
Trump is toxic in SV (Score:3, Interesting)
So I am surprised Musk and Kalanick decided to work with him. Did they forget what happened to Brendan Eich?
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Trump is highly toxic in SV, there he is viewed as a KKK grand wizard and a serial molester in one. Anything but loud criticism would be career-damaging.
So I am surprised Musk and Kalanick decided to work with him. Did they forget what happened to Brendan Eich?
I guess it's time for the special snowflakes in SV to grow the fuck up.
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"A large portion of the electorate" also eats at McDonald's and shops at Wal-Mart. What's your point?
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When everything is misogyny, what Trump does is no longer condemned.
Re:Trump is toxic in SV (Score:4, Insightful)
So I am surprised Musk and Kalanick decided to work with him. Did they forget what happened to Brendan Eich?
They're not campaigning for him, they are advising (read lobbying) him. Like it or not, Trump will be President. If you get the opportunity to voice your opinion to the President, you take it.
Furthermore, Trump seems to be in a state of flux where he can be easily persuaded. [bbc.com] With a good enough argument, they might be able to persuade him to be favorable to their causes.
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I bet Breitbart's advertising revenue is rocketing. Trump's tweets reveal that it is his favourite source of news (most often quoted/linked) by far. Putting your ads on there is like a personal hotline to his cell phone, able to reach him at 3AM when he decides to do a bit of reading and go on a Twitter rant.
I bet their analytics are good enough that an advertiser could target him personally, and know exactly how many times he viewed/clicked their messages.
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being loudly "progressive", with the emphasis on "loudly", is going out of style.
I think this is just wishful thinking. I have seen nothing but doubling-down post elections.
Slashdot is killing itself (Score:4, Insightful)
Looking at the Alexa ranking [alexa.com] of Slashdot over the past couple of months shows that readership has dropped precipitously. It started to slide around March, levelled out at a low pace throughout the summer, and took a nosedive right around the election.
During those months, many long-term readers took the trouble to post messages complaining about the political nature of the posts, and many of those also said "that's it - I'm leaving!".
It was clear during those months that many of the articles were partisan - mostly in favour of Clinton, but there were some that were pro Trump as well. The forum became nothing more than an anchor point for digs against Trump or Clinton.
This article is another example of this: it's a forum for people to wail about how awful Trump will be, because they can see the future with perfect clarity.
It's clear from context and evidence that people simply don't like this partisan bullshit, and are leaving the site in droves to avoid it. Whichever side you happen to be on, when you trash talk or support Trump you're alienating fully half the readership.
I would *think* that the editors should have a fiducial responsibility to see slashdot succeed, and looking at the Alexa history I would *think* that whiplash would step in and enforce a leadership vision that better navigates the shoals of politics.
I guess not.
The NYT showed a 96% drop in quarterly profits [dailycaller.com] over the election season, very probably because of continuous partisan trash talking.
That's a huge drop in the profitability of a company, and should be a cloister bell for media in general: people simply don't like all this partisan bickering.
At the very least you're driving away half your readership.
Slashdot should focus on the technical and avoid emotionalism for the time being, at least until the election soreness has had a chance to calm down.
If Slashdot wants to succeed, that would seem to be the prudent move.
Re:Slashdot is killing itself (Score:5, Insightful)
This is an article about who in tech is going to be advising the president. That's not partisan, it's just a fact.
If /. users can no longer handle facts being distributed there's a bigger problem than 'what content do we post'.
Re:Slashdot is killing itself (Score:4, Interesting)
My point would be, in a large sense, that the choice of what to post as news (this is actually news, it is stuff that matters) is not the problem.
It's not fucking bait, it's an actual story that actually happened that we should (regardless of what color armband you wear) be interested in. These are the people who are going to be drivers for tech related economic policy for the next 4+ years.
If we can't discuss that without diving into partisan bullshit we're the problem, not the editors. What this guy is basically asking for is to turn /. into a fucking safe space from anything to do with government because we're all emotional about it. That's fucking stupid.
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anti Trump posts, including those critical in a reasonable way got modded straight to hell. I am not talking about flamebait or trolls, just attempts at discussion.
Please provide some links to support your claim. In particular, link to anti-Trump posts that are "critical in a reasonable way" or "just attempts at discussion" that "got modded straight to hell".
I consider myself to be non-partisan (I'm registered as an independent and I didn't vote for Trump or Clinton), but I have actually observed the opposite effect. When I look at stories such as this one [slashdot.org] from Sunday, the very first post is a profanity-laden anti-Trump post that somehow was modded 3 (Interesting).
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On the contrary, Slashdot should hire Trump to take care of this forum. He would be the best for this job, because he knows words, he has the best words.
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If you look at the moment commented on stories they are often the political ones. I suppose it could be that the majority of readers who don't comment and are now leaving, but it seems more likely that in fact political stories bordering on click-bait are what are keeping the site alive.
I'd say it's the quality of the comments that is causing the decline. It's like groundhog day sometimes, with the same long debunked arguments getting repeated over and over, the same troll mods to block anything trying to m
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This article is another example of this: it's a forum for people to wail about how awful Drumpf will be, because they can see the future with perfect clarity.
Which part of the summary or article points toward anything that is negative?
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Well, there's the fact that the likes of Musk, Cook, and Page have tossed away what they'd previously claimed were their values and have decided to associate themselves with and support Trump. That speaks very negatively about them and makes me inclined to re-evaluate whether I wish to be a customer of their companies.
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Well, alternatively they could lawyer up. When the Nixon administration went on the attack against IBM, Big Blue retained a cadre of lawyers that have since become colloquially nicknamed "The Nazgul"... the implications of facing them being obvious. IBM fought the government to a standstill, fended it off for 13 years, and eventually broke the government's resolve and saw the case dropped.
13 years is a long time. Barring SCOTUS catastrophe, Trump will be gone and consigned to the ash heap of history in 8
Re:Slashdot is killing itself (Score:4, Interesting)
From your article:
Wow, one percent reduction in revenue - people were clearly quite ticked off....
(Given that newspapers are a declining industry to begin with, I wouldn't be surprised if that beats the industry average)
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First, everything I see presently on the front page of slashdot, including this article, are tech.
Slashdot seems to be relatively balanced to me, both in articles and in comments. You want to see a place that started out leftist and has turned into a complete sewer of ultra-left bias, see soylentnews. An echo chamber for cuckoos. Participation has dropped to critically low. And theregister is embarrassing themselves with their batshit-insaneTrump derangement.
OTOH, pipedot stayed virtually 100% pure tech, an
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Re:Slashdot is killing itself (Score:4, Interesting)
I've given up on Slashdot because the lowering of the quality of the posts (the level of detail, precision and insight) is directly correlated to number of conservative dipsticks here on Slashdot. The constant denial of global warming. The defending of the pussy grabber in Chief. Pizzagate level bullshit is fairly common on slashdot.
There's really little difference between slashdot and r/the_donald.
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It's a shame moderation isn't public. I bet it's actually a relatively small number of people, like that GamerGate shit. A few people instigating and using sock puppets to amplify and moderate, and then a larger but still relatively small number of useful idiots who are stupid enough to fall for things like Pizzagate.
I'd love to know what was going through that guy's mind as he searched the pizza restaurant, clutching his rifle and knowing that the cops were already outside... The dawning realization that t
Re:Slashdot is killing itself (Score:4, Interesting)
trash talk or support Trump you're alienating fully half the readership.
I suspect your stats are actually wrong here - you're assuming 100% of the readership is American. I can speak for my small piece of the rest of the world when I say that pretty much unanimously the response in Toronto is "Umm, we tried electing someone like that as our mayor... did you not follow the late night comedy jokes about him? It didn't go so well."
Min
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Whichever side you happen to be on, when you trash talk or support Trump you're alienating 46% or 48% of the readership.
/ducks
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I agree. The quality of slashdot discussions have dropped a lot.. the number of comments against each article is also very low these days. It was unusual to have stories with less than 300-400 comments, now a lot of stories don't even hit the 100 comment mark. And most of the comments themselves are not adding much insight - and that is a shame, because I have always come to this site for the depth of the discussion and not because of the stories themselves.
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Agreed. I come to tech news sites to get away from this bullshit. I stopped visiting Ars Technica because of this and I absolutely refuse to visit The Verge. When I want politics I have sites to go to for that. Slashdot has always been a cesspool for this shit and I will admit I have been sucked in on a number of occassions but I just took a multi month break from slashdot because of this crap. Get back to news for nerds or fuck off
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NYT were barely braking even before, and they are barely breaking even now.
"generally wary" (Score:2)
Interesting way to write "insanely hostile." The limousine libtards of tech are talking secession [bloomberg.com].
Soon-president? (Score:2)
... will regularly meet with the soon-president to advise on business issues ...
I'd prefer it if most of Trump's Policy Forum members could "meet with the late-president to advise on business issues". Then both they and Trump would be in the afterlife and out of our hair. Bonus points for taking Pence along as well.
This is participation and dialog (Score:2)
Headline is slanted. For the love of god, the council which will meet with Trump has 19 members and represents a wide swathe of industry. Musk and Kalanick are only barely 10% of the council. Other extremely notable members are Cook from Apple, Iger from Disney, Rometty from IBM, Nooyi from PepsiCo, and (obviously) 13 others.
What could possibly be bad with a President who seeks wide input from industry and others? In my life extending back to Truman, I don't remember this level of dialog and participation.
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Does anyone... anyone... seriously believe that Trump will pay attention to any thoughts and direction to come from this Strategic and Policy Forum? Will he listen at all?
Thus far Trump has ignored most briefings on a wide variety of critical topics, refused his daily presidential briefings to prepare for taking over the office, held mock forums in which he assembles rooms full of people smarter than him and then berates and insults them (e.g. the post-election summit with news org leaders, among others),
Silicon Valley become the next Detroit? (Score:2)
Just asking as I wonder the political aspects. I'm not trying stir up another political diatribe (I admit it sure does seem like I am) but trying to speculate national policy that I see could impact Silicon Valley that sometime in the future this area will be economically depressed (there was a time with Detroit was an economic powerhouse, nobody foresaw it could become like it is). What we have is a new administration that claims to bring jobs back to US and not particularly accommodating to China.
We als
Disney? (Score:2)
Great, that can really only mean one thing. Copyright will be extended another 75 years, or maybe they will just drop all pretenses and simply say that Copyright is forever now (for all intents and purposes it has been for sometime anyway with continual extensions).
For what it's worth, probably good to have Elon on the team at least. As to Uber, a bit of an odd choice seeing how the product is considered illegal and illegitimate in many places in the US, though one could argue that is because he is a cuttin
Trump's First Appointment Should Be a Psychiatist (Score:2)
That boy ain't right.
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He didn't even do that. He stole it from some guy called Wienerfloss.
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"Elon Musk is a snake oil salesmen out there pimping a mechanically impossible "super tube" for travel"
What is mechanically impossible about it? The logic behind it seems sound.
"and the Uber guy... well, I mean, what technolgoically is so amazing about making an app with a map that connects a buyer and seller of a service? "
Nothing is amazing about it.... except that taxi companies for the most part weren't doing it. The user experience is light years ahead of a traditional taxi service, in my experience.
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They're going to advise him they need even more H-1Bs.
They might say that, but that's not the same as Trump will do as they say. Trump said he will talk to companies and figure out why they aren't hiring American workers and then try to solve the problems. During his campaign, he already discovered one reason: regulations. It's much cheaper, faster and easier to just build a plant in Mexico than to go through regulations set by Washington. For all we know he is investigating which specific regulations, which works to push out companies.
Just assuming he will do
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And of course, in a show of patriotism, Trump took less profits by moving his clothing line back to U.S. production. What's that? He didn't? I'm shocked.
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Liberalism is not dying. It is making a resurgence. Democrats havent represented liberalism in a long time. And I'm talking talking about their self defined brand of liberalism that they teach in schools.
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They might say that, but that's not the same as Trump will do as they say. Trump said he will talk to companies and figure out why they aren't hiring American workers and then try to solve the problems. During his campaign, he already discovered one reason: regulations. It's much cheaper, faster and easier to just build a plant in Mexico than to go through regulations set by Washington. For all we know he is investigating which specific regulations, which works to push out companies.
I hope half, if not ALL, of what you said would come true. I will wait and see but won't keep my hope up. However, if he fails, I don't accept any excuses he is going to give; especially those that are pointing fingers to others.
Re:Oh fuck (Score:5, Informative)
They're going to advise him they need even more H-1Bs.
Well, for Spacex, that's unlikely. Just about every (every?) opening on their site:
To conform to U.S. Government space technology export regulations, applicant must be a U.S. citizen, lawful permanent resident of the U.S., protected individual as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3), or eligible to obtain the required authorizations from the U.S. Department of State.
Re:Oh fuck (Score:5, Insightful)
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Musk will be telling him: "You know that thing you spent years denying and put a denier in charge of? It's the core of my businesses and you need to invest heavily in it."
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I was under the impression -- apparently mistaken -- that The Donald is the world's greatest expert on business. Why would the WGEOB need advice?
Re:Oh fuck (Score:5, Insightful)
Visa Fraud (Score:5, Interesting)
What the rule should be for H1B visas is that one cannot displace existing workers in the organization in order to bring in contractors on H1B status. Don't allow an abstraction layer between the job to be performed and the original company in the form of the middle-man contractor company to allow this kind of BS.
Excellent Idea, and good catch on the 'abstraction layer' BS!
H1B visas are only supposed to be used when an American worker with the same skills cannot be found, yet we keep hearing about cases where American workers train their H1B visa worker replacements before the Americans are fired. This should be a big red flag. The job should not be H1B eligible because there is an American worker available to do the job, the person currently doing the job.
How do employers get away with this obvious visa fraud with no penalties whatsoever? They use the job description equivalent of 'creative accounting'.
With a few simple re-definitions of employee roles and employee tasks you can avoid fines and still engage in blatant visa fraud.
Linguistic bootstrapping (Score:2)
The skill laid-off American workers lack is fluency in Hindi. How do you expect them to talk to their coworkers?
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Did you consider that a lot of the comments that are critical of Musk are ad hominem attacks made by ACs, and therefore offer little to nothing to the conversation, and therefore deserve to get down-voted?
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Trump built a company built around repeatedly ripping people off [wikipedia.org], making significantly less money than he would have had he just put his money into a fund that tracks the S&P and then sat on the couch all day.
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The S&P 500 claim is bullshit, here's a good article about it https://www.bloomberg.com/view... [bloomberg.com]
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That's easy enough to say in retrospect. But if it were that easy we'd all be rich. Even you.
In any event, he made his money doing what he knew. And he not only has his money, he also has a legacy of lots of things built. What does George Soros have to show for his money?
Re:Insert H1B Whining. (Score:5, Insightful)
Only this is not how most H1B are used. Instead, they are used to hire $65K workers to replace $80K locals and to drive wages down. Not everyone is "relevant", most people are just cogs, but even "cogs" deserve decent living.
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$65K workers to replace $80K locals and to drive wages down
You mean how an 'unpaid' mule replaced a farm hard earning a wage? Throughout the course of history everything has been pushed down, simplified and cheapened. The way to stay ahead of that is to adapt.
Your average RN these days can do as much, if not more, than a doctor could do 100 years ago. Your average Physicians Assistant does what a doctor would do 20-30 years ago. My wife's a doctor, she doesn't complain that the RNs and PAs are "taking her job". Or that it's pushing down the wages of doctors. The do
Re:Insert H1B Whining. (Score:4, Insightful)
You mean how an 'unpaid' mule replaced a farm hard earning a wage? Throughout the course of history everything has been pushed down, simplified and cheapened. The way to stay ahead of that is to adapt.
You mean like how ~20-25 years ago I would be paid and hourly wage to work picking stuff like tobacco, blueberries, strawberries and so on? And now they pay people who they import into the country seasonally by weight. Yes, very pushed down, simplified and cheapened. People no longer want to do those jobs because the wages they're paying because they've been artificially depressed can no longer sustain people living within the same country.
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Different from my experience. 35 years ago I picked strawberries, raspberries, blueberries, cherries, plums, pears and apples. All were paid by weight or volume. The small fruits in the Fraser Valley were mostly picked by E. Indians who were usually trying to get their UI weeks in, so must have been legal and the tree fruits were often picked by Canadians who were traveling such as Ontarian's and Quebecois with a fair number of European young tourists working illegally.
Now, at least in the Fraser Valley wit
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I know this is Canada but since you're Canadian, I take it you're talking about Canada, unless you were working in the States. The real problem is that Canadians don't want to work in the fields and aren't fast enough to be worth a hourly wage.
Different part of the country of course. I worked in Ontario. The group of people I was with could do a first pick of a tobacco field(280 acres) in 5 hours when we were riding on the picker. New guys were slower, but that's to be expected.
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its illegal for RNs to replace Doctors.
RNs have replaced what Doctors do. They have exactly picked up what would have been 'doctor work' 50 or 100 years ago. Just like an H1B can pick up and do what a "IT Doctor" did 20 or 30 year ago.
making sure her ass isn't replaced by web MD
I would have given you Watson, but WebMD? No.
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Instead, they are used to hire $65K workers to replace $80K locals and to drive wages down.
I see this posted on Slashdot all the time, and I want some proof because my experience is the opposite.
There are two H1B workers sitting right next to me. As a programmer, I've worked with H1B Visa employees for 20 years. I've interviewed many of them. But never have I seen them command salaries significantly different than any other employee on the team. To the contrary, I keep going into interviews and going "they are asking for sponsorship + what salary?!?!?!" And if they are good, they get it.
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The OP said 'nobody would', so merely arguing the point that there are people out there ( I know them ) who argue against H1B simply because they're 'brown people'. They don't have a damn clue as to whether that guy is on an H1B or just somebody who was born in Bangladesh.
Re:Insert H1B Whining. (Score:4, Informative)
Ever think that maybe you don't have relevant skills anymore?
How about the cases where those being replaced have to train their H1-B replacements? Their skills and knowledge are good enough to teach the job but not enough to actually do it?
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Their skills and knowledge are good enough to teach the job but not enough to actually do it?
Yes. I could train a high school student (or H1B) to do about 80% of my job. I actually wish I could. It means I could spend the rest of my time on the other 20%. Until that 20% becomes 80%, rinse and repeat.
Say your job is getting servers online. Your job is to build a machine, load the OS and deploy it. For whatever reason you refuse to learn docker or (insert other containerization here). If you train someone on what you do and they turn around and do use a tool that means they can do your job in 1/10th
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What parts would those be?
Anywhere but SV.
EXACTLY what SPECIFIC skills are missing.
There is a high demand for Simulink modelers right now. (Search Indeed in any metropolitan area in the US) It should be able to buy you 5-10 years before that's something that's taught at the highschool level. (If I could afford the licenses I could probably teach a 15 year old that loves Minecraft to do it).
- even though he was doing the job for years.
Mechanical drafters had been doing their job for years before CAD came along. I don't doubt that most of them could still draft the exact way they had been for decades at that point, it
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As someone with 30 years with matlab and simulink experience, I approve of this post.
If you can figure out the black magic that is TLC programming 'language' you're worth your weight in gold to a company. New dev boards are developed all the time and in my experience there is a huge shortage of people that know how to stitch the C and Simulink together.
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BUT YOU NEED A 6 YEAR DEGREE TO PROGRAM. THESE ARE USELESS. NO ONE LEARNS TO CODE THAT FAST
WHY AREN'T WE RETRAINING PEOPLE TO DO RELEVANT JOBS?
Notice how you can never win?
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Re:Elon Musk will advise how to waste billions (Score:5, Informative)
You do know that you are talking rubbish, right ?
If you looked carefully into how governments are run, you will come to the conclusion that many business sectors are subsidised via tax breaks from governments. Many companies get tax breaks such as for the Oil Extraction and Exploration companies. Different business sectors use different accounting methods and tax rules.
"very skilled in mismanaging money on a massive scale" if this were really true there would be a fraud case but no such case exists, Mr Musk is putting much of this money into constructing infrastructure. I suggest you wait another 10 years to see how these investments bring success.
"exploding rockets" is part of the rocket industry and is calculated into the costs and insurance. It is sad when rockets fail. The important thing is that lessons are learned from the failures as this knowledge can be used to improve the rockets.
"building self-crashing cars" is a false premise. The driver is still in charge of the car when the auto-pilot driver assist is used. You should compare traditional car crashes with crashes of electric cars (EV's) to come to the proper conclusion that EV's are safer. There will always be some horrific car crashes.
EV's will be the dominant form of transport within 20 years from now, You need to get used to it.
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The government uses tax breaks as a means to direct corporations and people to move in a direction in which they would like them to go. It's a carrot while a tax can be used as a stick.
For example, if a government wants businesses to spend more on R&D they can increase the tax credit that the company receives for doing so. Just before 2000 came along the Canadian government allowed businesses to fully write off some computers and equipment in order to deal with the Y2K situation. Normally they would
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Precisely. Trump should instead listen to Brian Krzanich of Intel, who supported him during the elections and got flak for it from Silicon Valley commissars. Aside from being supportive of Trump, Krzanich has led a company that currently is the best of American manufacturing and jobs, and which not only holds its own but also towers over international competition
Re:Very disappointing. (Score:5, Insightful)
Musk must be engaging in some serious 1984-esque doublethink here. Or maybe Trump is blackmailing him in some way?
It would be suicidal for the CEO of any company which has government contracts as a major part of its revenue(SpaceX) to snub the president elect.
Not to mention the foolishness of refusing to advise a president who is probably looking at ending subsidies that makes another of your companies more profitable(Tesla).
There is also the angle of advising the president towards actions that reflect your world view, even if that world-view is not shared('we should push LED lights because they last longer and are safer than either incandescent or compact florescent, not to mention delaying the need to build more expensive power plants and power network upgrades' without even mentioning that the reduced power requirements could help fight global warming for example)
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So, in other words, your posit is that trump is blackmailing Musk: "Say, that's a nice rocket launching business you have there. It'd be a shame if anything bad were to happen to it, wouldn't it?" So... aside from the face that you seem to believe that trump is in some way deserving of an ass-kissing in a slashdot post he will certainly never see, that's exactly my own point.
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