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More Performers Are Demanding Audiences Lock Up Their Phones (nytimes.com) 552

More performers -- and other venues -- are discovering a new anti-piracy technology called Yondr -- including comedian Dave Chappelle. Slashdot reader HughPickens.com quotes the New York Times: Fans are required to place their cellphones into Yondr's form-fitting lockable pouch when entering the show, and a disk mechanism unlocks it on the way out. Fans keep the pouch with them, but it is impossible to snap pictures, shoot videos or send text messages during the performance while the pouch is locked.

'I know my show is protected, and it empowers me to be more honest and open with the audience,' says Dave Chappelle...But some fans object to not being able to disseminate and see live shows via videotape...

"In this day and age, my phone is how I keep my memory," one live-music fan told the Washington Post, adding "If you don't want your music heard, then don't perform it." But the device is becoming more common, and according to the Times it's now also being used at weddings, restaurants, schools, and when movies are being prescreened.
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More Performers Are Demanding Audiences Lock Up Their Phones

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  • what about security? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by OffTheLip ( 636691 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @06:36AM (#53089637)
    Like emergencies. Can the phones be retrieved quickly enough in the "fog of war". Can a police situation be recorded?
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by queBurro ( 1499731 )
      and like on-call Doctors who couldn't care less if they're ruining the end of "Star Wars" for you because they have to go and err you know? save-a-life.
      • Comment removed (Score:5, Informative)

        by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:05AM (#53089757)
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        • by MitchDev ( 2526834 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:21AM (#53089819)

          If you are on call 24/7, you really need to re-evaluate your life choices...

          • by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:25AM (#53089851)

            That depends entirely upon how much you're being paid to be on call 24/7. To use an old expression, "every man has his price," and if you're being paid enough to feasibly retire in a short timespan on the earnings, it sort of changes the economics of the matter. -PCP

            • by luis_a_espinal ( 1810296 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @08:13AM (#53090093)

              That depends entirely upon how much you're being paid to be on call 24/7. To use an old expression, "every man has his price," and if you're being paid enough to feasibly retire in a short timespan on the earnings, it sort of changes the economics of the matter. -PCP

              Bingo. I wouldn't do a 24/7 on-call job again, but I did that once in IT. Those were 5 grueling years, but they paid well and served me well. They also got me (temporarily) out of being a developer and to see all the other important shit that goes around development.

              I became a much better developer because of it. Now with children, I wouldn't do it... unless I have a need for a job or if the pay is so spectacular that I could sacrifice 3-4 years plowing at it to create a greater safety net with which to provide (and protect) my family.

              The previous OP, just because a choice was made that doesn't fit the shallow pigeonholes of your world view, that does not rob them of legitimacy. Shut your mouth and learn to walk other people's shoes for a change.

          • If you are on call 24/7, you really need to re-evaluate your life choices...

            Maybe a person who works as a heart surgeon or trauma specialist has made a specific life choice. Did that person do the wrong choice in becoming a heart surgeon or trauma specialist?

            • by Holi ( 250190 )
              No doctor is on call 24/7. Seriously 24/7 means every day of the week. No one should be expected to be on call 24/7.

              If your on call all the time you are being taken advantage of.
              • Additionally any time a doctor is 'on call' they are on a leash from the hospital. For most specialties they have to be at the hospital in 15 minutes or less.

                Unless they live in a small town most 'on call' doctors just stay on campus and do other things. (My wife jokes that the surgeons live in the weight room).

                This isn't 1980 where a pager will alert the doctor to be somewhere in an hour.

          • by Ol Olsoc ( 1175323 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @09:26AM (#53090565)

            If you are on call 24/7, you really need to re-evaluate your life choices...

            Why? I made a very nice living by being on call. Nice enough to retire at 55. Now I'm not on call at all.

            A lot of the people who thought I was crazy are now re-evaluating their own life choices, because after finally doing the realmath, they "plan" on never retiring - assuming health issues or a forced retirement analogue doesn't get them.

        • by mwvdlee ( 775178 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:24AM (#53089843) Homepage

          +1

          If you're on call, regardless of your profession, you assume a responsibility.
          Don't burden others with the consequences of your choices.
          The fix for this problem is easy; don't go to a location where your phone will not work.
          If you can't do something that easy, you shouldn't have been trusted with it in the first place.

      • Have doctors really gotten rid of their pagers?

      • and like on-call Doctors who couldn't care less if they're ruining the end of "Star Wars" for you because they have to go and err you know? save-a-life.

        That's why vibration mode is for, the very thing that has existed for years and that movie theaters reminds you off at the beginning of every single movie.

        • maybe not so much the taking of the actual-call as the standing up and leaving the theatre bit. i.e. Someone being sensitive of their environment but still realising that "it's only a film".
      • by Dunbal ( 464142 ) *
        Those are called assholes. Being on call does not preclude your ability to put your phone on vibrate.
        • Those are called assholes. Being on call does not preclude your ability to put your phone on vibrate.

          They're also called idiots. They can use DND mode so that only actually important calls get through while they're in a theater.

    • 1. Bring a second, crappy phone.
      2. Lock the crappy phone in the pouch.
      3. PROFIT!

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I guess I would never be at one of these events in the first place. I hate concerts and never go anymore. But, if I were to go - two phones. 1 in my sock maybe. No problem. I wouldn't want to record their lame concert / comedy - but would want to be able to access the device in the situations you mention.
    • To play devil's advocate - some emergency situations might actually be easier escaped if there are fewer people slowing down to take video or make a phone call.
    • by Ol Olsoc ( 1175323 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @09:18AM (#53090485)

      Like emergencies. Can the phones be retrieved quickly enough in the "fog of war". Can a police situation be recorded?

      Are you one of those people who panic when the little notification on the phone says "No Service"? I know several who have become so worried by the "what if" scenarios that they get all nervous even if it dips out of LTE these days. I do have personal experience in students losing letter grades because they wouldn't put their cellphones in a pouch for a required lecture attendance. Which is all to say that they were more worried about (fill in the blank) than passing a course

      This isn't aimed at you specifically, but what I am seeing in society. If it is so important to you as an individual that you never are witout immediate access to that little smartphone, you probably shouldn't go to any shows. Something that 20 years ago didn't exist is now controlling your life, and as likely as not, you don't feel even a little more secure.

      That's why I am really concerned about the home surveillance systems offered today. They always show some parent - usually a mother, all pleased and relieved because the surveillance camera shows her children getting home from school, or the pets are safe.

      If this follows the smartphone path, mom or dad will be checking more and more often - after all "what if one of the children hurts themselves while I'm not looking, or what if a burglar or rapist breaks into the house at that moment when I'm not watching?" So next thing you know, mom and dad are paranoid as all hell, and watching over their house at all times. Work/vacation/ during sex....

      If smartphones are any indicator, this is the future.

  • Forest of hands (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sTERNKERN ( 1290626 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @06:41AM (#53089649)
    .. holding mobiles and tablets. That is why I do not go to concerts anymore.
    • Value for money (Score:5, Interesting)

      by sjbe ( 173966 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:19AM (#53089809)

      That is why I do not go to concerts anymore.

      That's why? I don't go because the value for money almost always sucks. Once in a while a concert is an awesome experience but most of the time it's just an expensive, overly loud, poorly produced, sloppily performed, rehashing of music I've heard before and better in a recorded format. Sometimes you get the bonus of drunk or stoned concert goers and of course the numerous inconsiderate a-holes or thugs that too often seem to attend. Sure, live music CAN be awesome but it usually isn't. I really don't get the point of concert where i need ear plugs to avoid getting hearing damage.

      Maybe all that is your bag and you dig it in spite of the problems. Cool by me. Have fun. Personally I find many/most concerts something to be avoided because the experience is decidedly unpleasant. I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions and I've been to a handful of excellent concerts myself. But most simply aren't worth even a fraction of the price of admission.

      • by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Monday October 17, 2016 @08:56AM (#53090323) Homepage Journal

        I don't go to concerts to hear the lyrics. I go to concerts to knock people over in the pit while the music is played. Can't do that in my living room, it's called domestic violence in that case

        • I don't go to concerts to hear the lyrics. I go to concerts to knock people over in the pit while the music is played.

          Sounds like you need counseling rather than a concert. If you really need to go hit people I can suggest a few sports like boxing or MMA. You can even play music while you do it.

          • Sounds like you need counseling rather than a concert.

            Sounds like you're a wimp who wouldn't last five minutes in a pit. That's OK, but don't pretend it makes you superior. It doesn't. It makes you fragile.

      • Dude, you're going to the wrong concerts. I've been to around 30 concerts so far this year, and most of them have been absolutely amazing, with bands at the top of their game and lively good-natured crowds. Sure, there have been a couple of weaker shows, but that's how it always is.

        Granted, I mostly go to metal and hard rock shows, priced between $10-60, and held at venues with room for no more than ~1000 people. That's the sweet spot for me, and I've been having a blast. Some of the best shows happened wit

  • by turkeydance ( 1266624 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @06:41AM (#53089651)
    how else will a customer pay for a t-shirt/beer/etc?
  • by Smid ( 446509 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @06:46AM (#53089675)

    Use your eyes. And brain.

    • Some people don't have very good memories.

    • by AthanasiusKircher ( 1333179 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @11:43AM (#53092013)

      Use your eyes. And brain.

      I still recall when I spent a significant amount of time in Rome over a decade ago. This was before smartphones were common, but reasonably portable videocameras were pretty cheap.

      I remember how many tourists I saw walking down the hallways in the Vatican Museums or whatever with their videocameras plastered on their eyes, bumping into everything, basically oblivious to the world except for their camera and its settings.

      In general, most of these folks were completely oblivious to the fact that they were surrounded by priceless art, historical artifacts, etc. And they could probably have bought some "virtual tour" DVD for a few bucks that would give them an even better visual record than their camera.

      This tendency has only worsened in the era of the smartphone. To each his own, but I actually sometimes like to simply live my life and experience what's going on around me to the fullest, rather than spend the whole time making what's probably an inferior recording.

      I kept an electronic journal of sorts during my visit to Rome, reflecting on my day's activities. Sure, I've forgotten some things, but sometimes I'll go back to those log entries and that will be enough to jog a lot of memories. Personally, I'm really glad I take time to stop and enjoy the actual experience, and I probably have a lot more memories of what I encountered than those who make a video that they likely watch once (if that) and then never again.

  • He thinks his act is so poor that if anyone catches a clip of it on line, they will realise there is no point in paying to see the show?

    • This is pretty much truth....

    • by gnupun ( 752725 )

      Or someone will upload the video to youtube or bittorent... where others will watch the show and guess what? Fewer ticket sales. If money was not an issue, most of these performers would not mind cameras. But they have to make a living... so no cameras, no piracy.

      Oh and live performances are almost always sloppy compared to recorded events meant for mass-consumption, so no one cares about these slip ups.

      • by sjbe ( 173966 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @08:48AM (#53090287)

        Or someone will upload the video to youtube or bittorent... where others will watch the show and guess what? Fewer ticket sales. If money was not an issue, most of these performers would not mind cameras. But they have to make a living... so no cameras, no piracy.

        Nonsense argument. The Grateful Dead was a band that allowed recordings of their concerts and it didn't affect attendance one bit as far as anyone can tell. They cultivated a genuine relationship with their fans unlike too many of the overly entitled "artists" we see today. If a crappy cell phone recording of your concert makes people want to go less then you probably weren't selling anything worth attending in the first place. A good concert cannot remotely be replicated by a shaky video taken on an iPad. I think a lot of performers are trying to hide behind this stuff to cover their lack of actual ability and the poor value for money of their concerts.

      • Or someone will upload the video to youtube or bittorent... where others will watch the show and guess what? Fewer ticket sales.

        Why, because they've seen a clip of it at phone quality and thought, wow, this guy isn't funny, glad I didn't waste my money on that shit?

  • by Parker Lewis ( 999165 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:00AM (#53089741)
    I'm tired to go to nice performances, including circus, movies, etc (i.e., most stuff that is funny in a dark room), and then people insists in get their big phones and tablets and turn on the bright screen in your face and ruin your experience, blocking your vision and spotting light in your eyes.

    If people really used to just attend urgency calls, devices like this will be not required. For sure, probably doctors will be allowed to keep their devices. In case of fire, there are employees in the place able to make a call. Like in the old days.
    • by Holi ( 250190 )
      Seeing as the majority of people do not seem to share your pain I would guess it is something that you have to work on yourself instead of expecting everyone around you to acquiesce to your wishes.
  • by thejynxed ( 831517 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:02AM (#53089747)

    Went to a Rob Zombie show rather recently. He was not happy with the sea of phones and asked several times for people to put them away before finally just saying, "You know guys, you all ask why it seems rock seems like it is dead. It's because of stuff like this. I'm a rocker, not a tv guy. I don't know what to do when all I see staring me in the face is a bunch of cameras. I can't do anything with that." Thankfully people finally got the damned hint and he went on with the show instead of leaving (and yes, it was fscking great - he even went through an entire White Zombie album on top of his solo stuff).

  • by Kiuas ( 1084567 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:14AM (#53089789)

    I was recently at the Louis C. K. show here in Helsinki and they did not require anyone to lock away their phones, but prior to the show there was an announcement that anyone caught filming the show will be ejected.

    As a lover of stand-up, I can understand why they're strict about this: the tickets to the show cost nearly 60 euros and essentially people are paying that to hear new material. It's different from music and other performing arts where most often people know what they're going to see. AC/DC won't lose any ticket sales if a few dozen guys upload a shitty quality video of Thunderstruck from midfield. But a recording - even audio only - of the new material by a stand up performer will probably hurt ticket sales.

    That being said this seems like overreach: I did not see anyone being ejected from the aforementioned show (well, outside 1 dude who was way too drunk but he wasn't recording). People who've invested money to get to the show are unlikely to risk missing the show just to get a clip online, so I don't see a need for such a high-tech solution.

    • It's not just about the video clips, but about the disturbance to the rest of the audience of having a phone screen suddenly light up in their line of vision.

      • It's not just about the video clips, but about the disturbance to the rest of the audience of having a phone screen suddenly light up in their line of vision.

        I've been just waiting for this to happen, but it never does. I guess I need to go out more for that. Early to bed, early to rise, means never having someone else's cellphone shine in your eyes.

    • As a lover of stand-up, I can understand why they're strict about this: the tickets to the show cost nearly 60 euros and essentially people are paying that to hear new material. It's different from music and other performing arts where most often people know what they're going to see. AC/DC won't lose any ticket sales if a few dozen guys upload a shitty quality video of Thunderstruck from midfield. But a recording - even audio only - of the new material by a stand up performer will probably hurt ticket sale

  • by MitchDev ( 2526834 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:18AM (#53089805)

    Not wasting a cent on any performer who engages in this nonsense.

    • I'm sure you'll be missed. (snicker)

    • by garyok ( 218493 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:36AM (#53089901)

      Not wasting a cent on any performer who engages in this nonsense.

      Good. You stick to your guns and never go to another live show again.

      I'm sick of people like you trying to film shows and blocking my view. Instead of me being able to enjoy a show, I have the experience stolen from me so while some narcissistic tool holds their iPad above their head to take shakycam footage with abysmal audio, and all I can see is their poorly exposed image on the iPad's screen.

      It's a LIVE performance. The entire point of the exercise is what's happening right in front of you at that very second. Whatever you're recording on your phone or iPad is a miserable substitute. Try actually paying attention to the show instead of fiddling with your widget.

      • by bickerdyke ( 670000 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @08:00AM (#53090023)

        I beg to differ.

        I completely agree with you that it is a live experience that should be experienced live.

        But it's a difference between a 20 seconds clip to try to make your friends green with envy (if that's possible with the crappy quality) or to serve as a souvenir (only needs to be barely recognizable for that) or trying to make the worst replacement of a professional DVD production.

        Best solution I've seen was a singer-songwriter. At the beginning he asked the audience to put phones away until the encore, during which the stage (and house) lighting would be set in a way that would allow for at least somewhat acceptable picture quality. Result: Audience (and artist) got an undisturbed show AND souvenir material.

      • I'm sick of people like you trying to film shows and blocking my view. Instead of me being able to enjoy a show, I have the experience stolen from me so while some narcissistic tool holds their iPad above their head to take shakycam footage with abysmal audio, and all I can see is their poorly exposed image on the iPad's screen.

        Curious argument. You want to enjoy the performance on your terms while denying others the right to do the same. The idiot holding the smartphone could make exactly the same argument in reverse and it would be equally valid. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that trying to record a concert with an iPad is an idiotic thing to do and can definitely reduce the enjoyment for others. But if the folks producing the concert don't prohibit that behavior it's kind of hard to argue that they are ruining the ex

      • Not wasting a cent on any performer who engages in this nonsense.

        Good. You stick to your guns and never go to another live show again.

        I'm sick of people like you trying to film shows and blocking my view. Instead of me being able to enjoy a show, I have the experience stolen from me so while some narcissistic tool holds their iPad above their head to take shakycam footage with abysmal audio, and all I can see is their poorly exposed image on the iPad's screen.

        It's a LIVE performance. The entire point of the exercise is what's happening right in front of you at that very second. Whatever you're recording on your phone or iPad is a miserable substitute. Try actually paying attention to the show instead of fiddling with your widget.

        Personally I have never recorded at a live event with a phone. The only time I have done any recordings was at a race track with a handheld camera and the official camera man traded me tickets for any good clips I got. If an event wants to prevent me from using my phone in any manner, including everything that does not involve recording, because of what other people do, they don't need my business. I probably wont be missed but I wont miss anything that important either.

  • by LordHighExecutioner ( 4245243 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:25AM (#53089855)
    1) go to a concert and get a Yondr pouch
    2) put inside a Samsung Galaxy 7
    3) .....
    4) Profit!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:27AM (#53089865)

    I guess if you're selling out every show and can't find a bigger venue in town then you can get away with this.

    As a D-list performer? Please, tag yourself at my show, throw a couple pics up on social media, drop a clip on youtube. Selfies at the merch table after our set.

    Tomorrow night we're in Sheboygan, tell your friends there how awesome tonight was...

  • by hyades1 ( 1149581 ) <hyades1@hotmail.com> on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:42AM (#53089927)

    "In this day and age, my phone is how I keep my memory," one live-music fan told the Washington Post, adding "If you don't want your music heard, then don't perform it."

    If you don't want to see the artist's performance enough to abide by their wishes and see it live rather than filtered through your smart phone, then stay home. Those of us attending the concert will be quite happy not to put up with the jostling, distracting light from your device's display, and the general assholery of a self-entitled little prick who believes he has some kind of divine right to be accommodated.

  • In this day and age, with cheap cameras and practically free storage, performers should record everything, and they should give out the recordings to their audiences. Every joke Dave Chappelle ever makes is going to be on YouTube, their is nothing he can do about that. If he is unwilling for the public to hear something he says, then he probably should not say it in front of an audience of several hundred.

    • by i.r.id10t ( 595143 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @08:25AM (#53090147)

      This day and age? Hell, the Grateful Dead did it for DECADES ... and yet, they always seemed to sell tickets to the next show.

      Why, you can even go and download high bitrate MP3s of shows, often recorded directly from the sound board. Here ya go - only 11000 recordings... https://archive.org/details/Gr... [archive.org]

    • In this day and age, with cheap cameras and practically free storage, performers should record everything, and they should give out the recordings to their audiences. Every joke Dave Chappelle ever makes is going to be on YouTube, their is nothing he can do about that. If he is unwilling for the public to hear something he says, then he probably should not say it in front of an audience of several hundred.

      You watch an entertainer. You listen to a comedian.

      BIG difference between the two when it comes to profitability after new material has been leaked.

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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:50AM (#53089957)
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  • Vote "No" by avoiding venues that use this stuff.

  • Just don't. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by DriveDog ( 822962 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @08:20AM (#53090127)
    Don't agree to it. Walk away. Convince your friends not to. A wedding? Really? How about just announcing that the bride and groom don't want people holding up their phones. Then it'll be obvious who really respects them.
  • ..."If you don't want your music heard, then don't perform it."...

    The performer does want the music heard, the performer does not want the music recorded. See the difference?

    .
    The solution to this is simple. If you are unable or unwilling to enjoy the performance under the guidelines set by the performer, then do not go to the performance.

    See how simple that is.

  • "In this day and age, my phone is how I keep my memory,"

    Really? I know people say this shit, but do they REALLY mean it? I'm a tech guy, I love my smart phone, and my cloud storage, and everything else as much as the next guy. I have been "guilty" of snapping a picture at a concert, but that's not how I remember the concert. Do people actually go through their phones to reminisce and re-watch the inaudible, grainy, shitty video they shot from 50 rows back at the Katy Perry concert? Need a memory, take your picture, then put your god damn phone down. There a

  • Sigh (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ledow ( 319597 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @08:43AM (#53090261) Homepage

    Just another performer that I wouldn't go and see live then.

    Sorry, but recording devices are not new.

    Interruptions from the audience are not new.

    Why we feel the need to act on them now that copyright law is VASTLY in favour of the artists, whereas before it wasn't, I can't fathom. But that also seems to be the trigger for this kind of reaction.

    If you want me to effectively cripple my phone, something that stays with me all the time EVEN THOUGH I WORK IN SCHOOLS, then we're going to clash heads. I either won't come and see you perform, or I have to jump through a specific, special, nuisance every time I want to do so. Like a form of DRM on a live performance. That will affect my enjoyment, and the rate I'd be willing to pay for that performance.

    There's a time and a place for smartphones. I happily agree with you throwing out ANYONE whose phone goes off at a classical concert, for instance. No problem at all. Their own fault for failing to manage their device when they were given the opportunity to voluntarily manage their device.

    Even chicken-wire cages around the venue, or whatever. Fine. But to demand I start putting useful items in little bags, you're just trying to be like the TSA and other places who are overstepping their remit under the name of something else (terrorism, etc.). And do you demand the same of, say, a smartwatch?

    I can get a mobile phone with camera and wireless and bluetooth that's the size and thickness of a credit card. Literally, now, on Amazon, for 30 GBP. You can't police that kind of thing. And you're at a large venue with people who've paid to see you and you object to them immortalising that special performance?

    Wholesale copyright infringement is an entirely different problem. Taking people's phones away doesn't solve that either.

    But the problem of "how can I convince an audience that they want to pay money to come and see me?" That's a difficult enough prospect as it is without adding obstacles for yourself.

    If I ever did want to go to such a thing, and there was a warning on booking that this was required, I'd cancel. If I turned up and this was an ad-hoc policy, not notified and only implemented on the door? We're going to have an argument and I'm going to seek a refund for more than just my ticket and time wasted.

  • Blame yourselves (Score:2, Insightful)

    by pak9rabid ( 1011935 )
    You millennials have nobody to blame but your own narcissistic asses for this.
  • >But some fans object to not being able to disseminate and see live shows via videotape..."

    So they copy the shows from their phones over to video tape?

    How interesting...
  • by Nunya666 ( 4446709 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @09:49AM (#53090749)
    Who will go broke first - the performers or the venues?

    So when I arrive an hour early to make sure that I'm not late because of traffic or the crowds, I can't pass the time until the event starts by playing games on my phone.

    And parents can't check up on their kids by sending texts.

    No, thanks.

    Most already charge too much money for an evening's entertainment. If the price of admission didn't keep you away, then the price of food/snacks/drinks might. Now, if the total cost doesn't keep you away, this silly rule might. In my case, it definitely will.
  • by CharlieG ( 34950 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @12:23PM (#53092437) Homepage

    I get to a wedding, and the Bride/groom asks me to do this, I'll turn around, head home, and take my gift with me

    Enjoy your wedding

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