America Expands Its Freedom of Information Act (washingtonpost.com) 95
An anonymous reader writes:
As America headed into its "Independence Day weekend," the U.S. Congress passed -- and President Obama signed -- the "FOIA Improvements Act of 2016". It now establishes a "presumption of disclosure" by law, and will even allow the disclosure of "deliberative process" records after 25 years, meaning those records from the Reagan (and prior) administrations should now become open, according to the Washington Post. In addition, the law also creates a comprehensive new "online request portal" for requesting records from all agencies, and even requires those agencies to make digital copies available for any records requested three or more times.
"By updating FOIA for the digital age, our law puts more government information than ever before online in a format familiar and accessible to the American people," said Senator Leahy, who sponsored the legislation. On the 50th anniversary of America's original Freedom of Information Act, Leahy added that "a government of, by, and for the people cannot be one that is hidden from them... "
It's the law's 50th anniversary, and Leahy imagined a world 50 years in the future, when the next generation "will look back at this moment and gauge our commitment to the founding principles of our democracy. Let them see that we continued striving for a 'more perfect union' by strengthening the pillar of transparency that holds our government accountable to "We the People.' "
"By updating FOIA for the digital age, our law puts more government information than ever before online in a format familiar and accessible to the American people," said Senator Leahy, who sponsored the legislation. On the 50th anniversary of America's original Freedom of Information Act, Leahy added that "a government of, by, and for the people cannot be one that is hidden from them... "
It's the law's 50th anniversary, and Leahy imagined a world 50 years in the future, when the next generation "will look back at this moment and gauge our commitment to the founding principles of our democracy. Let them see that we continued striving for a 'more perfect union' by strengthening the pillar of transparency that holds our government accountable to "We the People.' "
Oh, the irony (Score:5, Insightful)
And the President signed the law on the same day that the State Department said they needed an additional 27 months to release emails between Department of State employees and the Clinton Foundation. Nothing to see here, move on....
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Re:Oh, the irony (Score:5, Insightful)
Never mind that the investigation started explicitly because of a FOIA request...
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You do not get to decide what counts as work and what counts as personal.
No, we don't, but the politician does, and we let them walk...
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Well, even if it doesn't apply there, it is still fairly ironic.
FOIA is for NASA and NOAA (Score:3)
Re: Oh, the irony (Score:5, Insightful)
The FOIA was the whole reason why Hillaty put up a private email server. She wanted her email traffic to not be on a government server and thus subject to the FOIA.
This whole thing is attempt by Obama to salvage a legacy. The Obama administration has prosecuted more whistle blowers than any other in history.
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The FOIA was the whole reason why Hillaty put up a private email server. She wanted her email traffic to not be on a government server and thus subject to the FOIA.
I wonder where in the world [wikipedia.org] she learned such a tactic?
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You are totally right, she learned the tactic (which was illegal when she entered office) from the requirements placed on the Bush administration by the Democrats in order to separate out political party email traffic from the White House email traffic. Or did you somehow think that the Bush White House ran their own email server for the hell of it?
http://insider.foxnews.com/201... [foxnews.com]
But of course, running an official email, and a separate email for political party email is required by law, so I guess it tota
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This whole thing is attempt by Obama to salvage a legacy. The Obama administration has prosecuted more whistle blowers than any other in history.
Congress wrote and past this law, not Obama.
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Wasn't he reading a book to elementary schoolers?
So... (Score:4, Interesting)
How's Kennedy Assassination documents declassification going? They were supposed to hit the public sometime this year, I heard.
Re:So... (Score:5, Informative)
according to Section 5(g)(2)(D) of the Kennedy Act, all records in the Kennedy Collection will be opened by 2017 unless certified as justifiably closed by the President of the United States. (http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/faqs.html)
Re: and Hillary will ignore this law... (Score:1)
No. She *knows* it *does not* apply to her. Nor does it apply to any member of the Ruling Elite.
Obama. What a joke. (Score:5, Interesting)
The president with the worst history of blanket denial of FOIA requests, running the most opaque government in our lifetime, signs a law "improving" the FOIA system. What a joke! If he and his executive branch didn't respect it before, they wont respect it now.
I was reading on a gun blog recently about a lawyer who sent the FBI an FOIA wanting to know what offenses would make a person a "domestic abuser" and disqualify them from buying a gun. The FBI said the list was secret and refused to answer. There's your most transparent administration ever!
The BATFE has stopped responding to FOIAs completely. If you want anything from them, you have to sue, pay for counsel, and wait for the lethargic court system to sort it out for a few years. They've even claimed they're not subject to FOIA requests AT ALL!
http://www.guns.com/2015/08/12... [guns.com]
Re:Obama. What a joke. (Score:5, Insightful)
The president with the worst history of blanket denial of FOIA requests, running the most opaque government in our lifetime, signs a law "improving" the FOIA system. What a joke! If he and his executive branch didn't respect it before, they wont respect it now.
I didn't like Obama either time he ran for president and I still don't like him. I felt like his worldview was completely wrong, and would cause overall harm to the country. However, his promise of transparency was the one thing about him that made me say, "if he actually follows through on this, we as the people will stand a decent chance of fixing our government for the first time in modern history because we'll know what they are really doing." Of course, I also thought, "we'll see how long it lasts if he gets elected." One key element of Obama's promise was that every piece of legislation would be posted to the Congress' website after passage by both houses before he would sign it in order allow for public comment. I believe it was supposed to be a minimum of five days. As far as I can tell, that hasn't happened once even going back to the first piece of legislation he signed. It certainly didn't happen with the Affordable Care Act, and the way he has been using Executive Orders (some of them secret) to get around Congress one could reasonably conclude that Obama never intended to be transparent, but only said that to appeal to the younger libertarian and classical liberal crowd.
In fact, I would say the best description of Obama is, "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." There are plenty of things I dislike about Trump in this election cycle, but whatever you think of him, he certainly won't be "same as the old boss." Hillary, on the other hand, well...
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All of the bills introduced in congress are posted same-day on https://www.congress.gov/ [congress.gov]. I don't know about the 5 days thing, but I think it is quite rare for bills to be introduced, passed and signed that quick. I looked at a few of the bills on there and none of them were passed in less than a month after they were introduced, and none of them were signed in fewer than a few weeks after they were passed.
If they weren't signed within 10 days, they become law automatically. So, no, I doubt they were all posted for a few weeks before being signed.
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OK. Thanks for the clarification.
Been there, done that. (Score:1)
he certainly won't be "same as the old boss."
Aside from aesthetics (eg, actually yelling at people who may or may not need to be yelled at), Trump won't change shit.
Not even the horrific tyranny that is 'signing statements' don't even give the office of the president the power people seem to attribute to that office.
Trump won't change shit. Sanders wouldn't have changed shit. Hillary loves bathing in the current shit. So, we're stuck with a shitshow, no matter who gets in.
Because nobody is going to vote to replace the Gentleman from Pork For My St
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You make a good point, but why can't you think about the children?!
And the very last paragraph? (Score:5, Informative)
Am I reading that right? A presumption of disclosure is what they claim...but don't hold them to it?
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But it is the most transparent administration ever! Can you ever name any before this one where you could see so clearly that the emperor has no clothes?
How much more transparent could it get?
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Nonsense. He's clearly wearing a coat that's a nice shade of green.
The nine exceptions: (Score:5, Informative)
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so, that pretty much covers everything. what's left? the state from which the cheese used in federal building cafeterias comes from?
No. That is commercial information and is not covered by FOIA.
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So... roll a d10 to determine excuse why it cannot be published, on a 10 you win a free reroll?
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Also, if you get a 7, you have to then roll a d6 for its sub-excuses.
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Why exemption #9? Is that to avoid someone having an unfair advantage in mining scouting, or what?
No additional funds authorized? (Score:5, Informative)
The law itself specifies that no additional funds are authorized to comply with the new requirements, so we'll see how these changes will actually be implemented. The Washington Post article cited in the summary already notes "Federal agencies have often starved their FOIA departments for resources; the new law will not change that. Backlogs stretch for years."
So, yeah. In theory, it gives broader and easier access to records. In practice, expect to wait forever to have your records request processed, just as before.
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Even despite the limitations, a law that demands government answer its citizens is a good one, and another useful tool to keep the beast reined in.
It is not only useful at a federal level. Even Civically, our local paper has successfully retrieved entrenched information from (often reluctant) Municipal employees.
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So, yeah. In theory, it gives broader and easier access to records. In practice, expect to wait forever to have your records request processed, just as before.
A cynic would note that if they have more requests but the same output, it means they have that much more options as to which requests to ignore.
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We have to protect the freedom, so it doesn't get used up. There ain't so much left of it, ya know.
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Didn't they just find a bunch more [slashdot.org] a little over a week ago?
Irony meters suffer massive nationwide outage (Score:1)
There is a cynicism upgrade available which will restart the modules.
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My money is on Ulysses Grant as the worst president ever. Great general but way out of depth in the political field. Reagan had a major part in the fall of the Soviet Union with him opening up communications with them. I could see Soviet army commanders opening fire on East European protesters if they saw no other option for their existence with hostile US and Western Europe.
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My money is on Ulysses Grant as the worst president ever.
Worst, presidents who got us into wars for money. The list is long, but distinguished, just like my johnson. Second worst, presidents who delayed us getting into wars for money at the cost of innocent lives, i.e. WWII. Tied for first place: Presidents who compromise our rights. Lots of presidents are tied for first place, including the last four or five we've had.
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Good luck with that given two words: Barack Obama
Re:Maybe now... (Score:4, Interesting)
Not even close. Hoover and his handling of the economic crisis 29 was way worse. Carter and ... pretty much all of the 4 years. And Ford's best feature was probably also the length of his presidency.
They just don't make 'em like Eisenhower anymore. Pretty much the only really good one the US had in the past 100 years. Level headed, efficient, not some gimmicky-flashy show man, simply a president.
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Truman. Last President ever who, after he left Office, just went home. No permanent Secret Service detail, none of the privileges modern Presidents get for life....
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Truman buckled in to Stalin about Europe, didn't really stop McCarthy's bullshit (that took Eisenhower to actually finally get rid of), kicked MacArthur out and generally fucked up Korea to the state it is today.
Sorry, but as much as I want to like him, he simply was a complete dud when it comes to foreign politics.
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There is reason to believe that Obama may have set us up for a second Civil War. Time will tell. I believe that historians of the distant future will consider Obama to be either the last President of the Constitutional Republic, or the first President of whatever they call our n
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Kennedy had the Cuba Crisis as his high point. Any of the dimwits today would've led us into a nuclear catastrophe.
He was a womanizer that makes Clinton look like a chaste saint, but being able to avoid a nuclear war kinda nixes that. Why should I give two shits about who he fucks as long as he keeps the country from getting fucked?
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You could also pick a French holiday.
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France kept the British occupied with battles in Europe which prevented full blunt of British military to crash the minor rebellion of the American colonies. This was why Americans constantly complained about lack of help from French allies because most of their actions were unseen by the Americans. French motive was their hatred of the British and had nothing to do with helping America. Irony was that French monarchy was supporting anti-monarchy movement which led to French revolution shortly after the end
Forgot the party ... again (Score:1)
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Well, something positive coming from Washington usually takes us SO by surprise that we forget to ask who did it, fearing that they might reconsider if we talk too much.
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However, the problems with FOIA's execution are of the executive branch, which is currently run by a Democrat. Leaving out the party ID helps Democrats, because if someone isn't paying attention, they'll assume the story is "Republican Senator criticizes Democrat President," which happens all the time. "Democrat criticizes Democrat" is more likely to be interesting.
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If you read the whole thing with all the exemptions, you will find it's hardly positive, which is indeed very typical of the democrats. Heavy on the rhetoric, very light on the action. ACA, anyone?
The republicans freed the slaves and desegregated the schools, and helped pass civil rights legislation (It couldn't have happened without them). What do the democrats do? Lock 'em up! [cnn.com]
You should quit while you're behind...
In 50 years... (Score:1)
It's the law's 50th anniversary, and Leahy imagined a world 50 years in the future, when the next generation "will look back at this moment and gauge our commitment to the founding principles of our democracy.
Indeed they will. And they'll look back at the DHS, TSA, and the Patriot act and laugh at his quote. Or the DHS may have outlawed laughter by they and those who laugh will be executed because, terrorists.
#fanniegate (Score:1)
See gselinks.com for what Obama thinks about the freedom of information. His administration wants to keep an unprecedented 10k documents from seeing the light of day.
JFK Please ! (Score:2)
All fine and dandy (Score:2)
but from a regular human perspective it's hogwash!
Where is the majority of information concerning regular individuals kept?
Try to get an insurance, high chances are that you are asked for your SS-#, for what purpose?
In the US, there is one great feature: The whole population is indexed on one key - SS-# where there was one original purpose and its use has subsequently expanded to what it is now - the ultimate exploitation tool.
Try getting a company to disclose what data it has about you, something similar
The definition of "ironic" (Score:2)
Leahy imagined a world 50 years in the future, when the next generation "will look back at this moment and gauge our commitment to the founding principles of our democracy."
Nothing against Patrick Leahy, but - I imagine when the next generation looks back at this era in American history, they'll see it as the moment when the government attempted to flush the "founding principles of our democracy" down the toilet.
Might be nice for software (Score:2)
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...I did not see a requirement or standard method to indicate where material had been redacted from the middle of information presented in electronic format.
They can just scan the pages after redacting them and make a PDF of page images available. It would technically be an electronic version of the document, but the redaction would be non-reversible and the page would still not be super-easy to search, being an image still.
Meanwhile here in the UK (Score:1)