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A New Corporate AI Can Read Your Emails - and Your Mind (fortune.com) 120

"Okay, as of last night, who were the people who were most disgruntled...? Show me the top 10." An anonymous Slashdot reader shares their report on a fascinating Fortune magazine article: "One company says it can spot 'insider threats' before they happen -- by reading all your workers' email." Working with a former CIA consultant, Stroz Friedberg developed a software that "combs through an organization's emails and text messages -- millions a day, the company says -- looking for high usage of words and phrases that language psychologists associate with certain mental states and personality profiles...

"Many companies already have the ability to run keyword searches of employees' emails, looking for worrisome words and phrases like 'embezzle' and 'I loathe this job'. But the Stroz Friedberg software, called Scout, aspires to go a giant step further, detecting indirectly, through unconscious syntactic and grammatical clues, workers' anger, financial or personal stress, and other tip-offs that an employee might be about to lose it... It uses an algorithm based on linguistic tells found to connote feelings of victimization, anger, and blame."

The article reports that 27% of cyber-attacks "come from within," according to a study of 562 organizations that was partly conducted by the U.S. Secret Service, with 43% of the surveyed companies reporting an "insider attack" within the last year.
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A New Corporate AI Can Read Your Emails - and Your Mind

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  • by nospam007 ( 722110 ) * on Sunday July 03, 2016 @12:35PM (#52439117)

    We use our smartphone's private mail to trash the bosses.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      We use our smartphone's private mail to trash the bosses.

      That's why they're looking for subconscious cues* instead of explicit statements of anger.

      * technical term : thoughtcrime

    • You DESERVE to get caught if you use the word "embezzle" in an email you send through the company's email system.

      • Probably auto-corrected from bambozzle :)

      • I've used the word embezzle maybe a dozen times in email at work. All of them in jest. It would be hilarious if I was flagged for review every time I did this.
  • Frankly I think this is nothing more than fear mongering. I also feel sorry for anyone accused by this software; I'm sure having to crawl on the carpet and somehow argue against some shady, dubious algorithm will be a wonderful experience.

    Also, do people really send emails from their corporate account with the words, "I loathe this job"? Give me a break.

    • I also feel sorry for anyone accused by this software

      Any place I worked for before would've used the flags raised by such software only to alert the manager. It would be up to him then to decide how (and even whether) to act.

      Staffing is a difficult and expensive part of running a corporation. Maybe, not for burger-joints — but certainly for anything using corporate e-mail to begin with. Firing or even disciplining an otherwise useful employee over his being tired or experiencing a financial strain is

    • by I75BJC ( 4590021 )
      nrasch asked, 'Also, do people really send emails from their corporate account with the words, "I loathe this job"?" Yes, yes, they do. Never underestimate that familiarity can lead to contempt. Or in this case, forgetting that nothing is private on company email.
  • Why don't they just ASK our opinions on office flow and harmony (or lack of) instead of buy expensive buggy crapware to do it?

    • by Yvan256 ( 722131 )

      That's like those ad companies that try to figure out what our interests are instead of directly asking us to check a few boxes on a form.

  • by epine ( 68316 ) on Sunday July 03, 2016 @12:54PM (#52439215)

    No intelligence here.

    The mindlessness of this technology is it's number one selling point.

    As rumour goes around (you're soaking in it), dutiful employees will onboard yet another reason to paint within arbitrary and demeaning corporate lines like good passionless drones (have I flunked the test?)

    Here is a rather chilling passage from The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. [mannerofspeaking.org]

    At the conclusion of the conference, a tribute to Comrade Stalin was called for. Of course, everyone stood up (just as everyone had leaped to his feet during the conference at every mention of his name). ... For three minutes, four minutes, five minutes, the stormy applause, rising to an ovation, continued. But palms were getting sore and raised arms were already aching. And the older people were panting from exhaustion. It was becoming insufferably silly even to those who really adored Stalin.

    However, who would dare to be the first to stop? ... After all, NKVD men were standing in the hall applauding and watching to see who would quit first! And in the obscure, small hall, unknown to the leader, the applause went on — six, seven, eight minutes! They were done for! Their goose was cooked! They couldn't stop now till they collapsed with heart attacks! At the rear of the hall, which was crowded, they could of course cheat a bit, clap less frequently, less vigorously, not so eagerly — but up there with the presidium where everyone could see them?

    The director of the local paper factory, an independent and strong-minded man, stood with the presidium. Aware of all the falsity and all the impossibility of the situation, he still kept on applauding! Nine minutes! Ten! In anguish he watched the secretary of the District Party Committee, but the latter dared not stop. Insanity! To the last man! With make-believe enthusiasm on their faces, looking at each other with faint hope, the district leaders were just going to go on and on applauding till they fell where they stood, till they were carried out of the hall on stretchers! And even then those who were left would not falter ...

    Then, after eleven minutes, the director of the paper factory assumed a businesslike expression and sat down in his seat. And, oh, a miracle took place! Where had the universal, uninhibited, indescribable enthusiasm gone? To a man, everyone else stopped dead and sat down. They had been saved!

    The squirrel had been smart enough to jump off his revolving wheel. That, however, was how they discovered who the independent people were. And that was how they went about eliminating them. That same night the factory director was arrested. They easily pasted ten years on him on the pretext of something quite different. But after he had signed Form 206, the final document of the interrogation, his interrogator reminded him:

    "Don't ever be the first to stop applauding."

  • What this software really means is that I, like many other employees, am going to have to change my signature.

    --

    Ima Embezzler, 123 Ihatemyjob Street, Killmy Coworkers, California

  • by gweihir ( 88907 ) on Sunday July 03, 2016 @12:59PM (#52439239)

    People will just use other channels for that type of communication. And there is also a serious risk: Many people will not communicate needed information for fear to be caught by this. In the ultimate consequence this can do much more damage than it helps.

    • I bitch about work in the company's chat rooms. I know my boss, and his boss, can see my messages. That doesn't stop me from not-so-subtly complaining about corporate bureacracy.

      Currently, humans read my communications and make subjective judgement calls based on which snippets of my conversation they might have noticed. Hopefully they think "Ray is highly motivated to improve our most problemtic processes". :)

      The the only difference a system like this would make for me would be that the interpretation wo

      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        Nobody that is actually critical is threatened by this. I would not be either. But it is important to also provide reasonable working conditions to the average worker, or social peace will be threatened. And they will not know how to deal with this and clamp up in fear. I have seen it happening in a similar situation.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I know, I'm supposed to have a knee-jerk reaction that this is bad and innocent people will get in trouble, yada yada yada... but I don't. There's far too much fear mongering here that Slashdot is almost unreadable these days. It could be an interesting idea in linguistics and data mining to identify potential workplace threats and troubled workers. There shouldn't be an expectation of privacy in workplace emails. If you want that, use a private account to discuss things.

    Whether this is good or bad comes do

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Why bother trying to write an interesting comment that might spur on discussion when it's going to quickly be hit with a -1? This system isn't necessarily going to be used for evil purposes and the heuristics might have a lot of interesting applications. Personal assistants like Cortana and Siri might be able to detect a person's mood and interact with the person accordingly, which is actually useful. It's also a hell of a lot more interesting than the paranoid fear mongering in most of these comments.

      Slash

      • by Anonymous Coward

        To be fair, a lot of what you're talking about wrt the scoring system is a side effect of scoring in general. People will look for things to game, and gaming for a high score to get your comments higher visibility could be understood by some to be "winning" socially. Many people will use whatever metric they can to make themselves feel socially valuable, which is why any technology that hopes to facilitate meaningful commentary *will not use numbers in meaningful ways*. Reddit, Slashdot, Stack Overflow, Img

      • Those who participate fully and log in also get karma feedback, which influences their ability to moderate. It promotes groupthink, which is one of the reasons I refuse to fully participate and stick to being an AC.

        Have you checked a mirror lately, because I'm pretty sure you have a tinfoil hat on too.

    • by Dogtanian ( 588974 ) on Sunday July 03, 2016 @02:44PM (#52439699) Homepage

      It could be an interesting idea in linguistics and data mining to identify potential workplace threats and troubled workers.

      Being an "interesting" idea from an intellectual point of view says absolutely *nothing* about whether it's a good idea or not.

      There shouldn't be an expectation of privacy in workplace emails. If you want that, use a private account to discuss things.

      Okay; the fact you're expressing that pat response here suggests that you don't understand (or weren't paying attention to) the difference between this and the typical (straightforward) "employers are reading my workplace email" thread. I actually wonder whether you even got the point of the story at all.

      This isn't spying on people directly expressing hostile or subversive thoughts against the company, this is using it on (potentially) superficially work-related and neutral email content to determine the underlying psychological attitude of the employee.

      Given that the employee is probably *required* to use email in this manner as part of their job, and given that this isn't something they're likely to be consciously doing (else they'd avoid doing it, duh) it's not as if they have a choice in the matter.

      Whether this is good or bad comes down to how you react to an alert.

      The issue here- and the reason most people quite rightly expressed the (supposedly) "kneejerk" reaction you dismiss- is that they already know based on past experience how large corporations or similar entities- i.e. the people likely to be buying this technology- will probably use this sort of power.

      For genuinely troubled employees, however, this might actually be useful if it leads to a confidential meeting with a third party or ombudsman who tries to help the employee.

      Yeah, because large US-style corporations are well-known for protecting employees with problems and won't simply use this as an early warning on someone they can get rid of before they become a problem. Or might not have, but why take the chance?

      I saw the example in the story. A nice, touchy-feely way to justify an intrusive technology, but let's get real here.

      If it's used to actually help troubled employers who might not reach out for help on their own, it could actually help people while protecting the company. If used properly, it's a good thing.

      The question is, how likely to you think it is to be used "properly" in your sense of the word?

      Your problem is that you seem to view the technology in a purely abstract sense- i.e. one that could theoretically be used for good or bad. Well, theoretically it could be, yes.

      However, your so-called "tinfoil hat crowd" knows damn well that such technologies don't exist in isolation, know what type of people it's been designed for, and the type of people and organisations it's likely to be sold to. Based on past experience, it's not unreasonable to draw such conclusions on how it's likely to be used.

      So, you can keep expressing your (repeated) dismissal of its critics as "paranoid delusional", but that doesn't make your counter-argument any stronger.

  • This re-affirms my decision to leave corporate America. I drive a truck now and thank the lord because shit like this pisses me off. I don't like our corporate overlords.
    • by GuB-42 ( 2483988 )

      I hope it is your own truck. Because otherwise, you will be tracked even more than in the office. GPS tracking devices are becoming the norm and they are probably considering microphones and cameras too.

  • If this gets to be a problem, maybe someone should write a program that will 'scrub' your email before you post it, Flag, remove, or replace those subconscious red flags that you put in.

  • I get that many clueless HR departments would install this, but those with actual (competent) analytics teams would avoid this or implement it very carefully. It is a huge can of worms with minimal benefit. Maybe you correctly flag a few risky people, but you equally risk false flags with expensive legal ramifications. Not only that, but you suddenly have a massive trove of data that an upset employee could use against you to potentially show a pattern of practice in a discrimination case, legit or not. Eve

  • by TigerPlish ( 174064 ) on Sunday July 03, 2016 @01:26PM (#52439353)

    1. Do not, under any circumstance, say anything in email that you wouldn't say to your boss' face.

    2. See #1.

    It's not rocket science, people. Most IT depts I've been in have language in the "IT Policy" newbs must sign saying something like "All communications may be monitored bla bla bla"

    • by Anonymous Coward

      RTFA.
      This is not about being rude or stupid in email. This is digital "micro-tells" - The idea that people give away their emotional state by subconscious actions that are not visible to the untrained eye. Word choice, sentence construction, word count, punctuation, time of day that the message is sent, time elapsed between receiving a message and responding, etc.

      Its total bullshit (just as real-life micro-tells are total bullshit) and the result is going to be arbitrary persecution of people singled out

    • is that you can take _everything_ you'd ever said to your bosses face and analyze it for trends. If you're already looking for reasons to fire people for performance here's another.
  • by nehumanuscrede ( 624750 ) on Sunday July 03, 2016 @01:36PM (#52439403)

    This stuff falls into pseudo-science much like a polygraph does. The first time they fire someone based on what amounts to ' digital profiling ' it will likely be quite a costly mistake.

    Besides, there is nothing in my contract that states I have to like my job. I just have to do it.

    I would think that if folks were not afraid of the fallout, any given company would find that a rather significant percentage of their workforce thinks less than positive thoughts about their job in general.

    • by NormalVisual ( 565491 ) on Sunday July 03, 2016 @03:12PM (#52439817)
      This stuff falls into pseudo-science much like a polygraph does.

      Agree 100%. I was tasked to implement a sentiment scoring feature like this in a corporate monitoring/surveillance product a couple of years back, intended to evaluate IMs, emails, etc. for potential leaks/corporate espionage/other bad stuff. I told them that we didn't have the time or in-house expertise to do it ourselves, and every single one of the commercially available libraries that I evaluated turned out to be snake oil.
  • by berchca ( 414155 ) on Sunday July 03, 2016 @01:41PM (#52439439) Homepage

    In the near future, employees will protecting themselves from false (or otherwise) accusations by never personally getting involved in their own email correspondence.

    http://www.wired.com/2015/11/google-is-using-ai-to-create-automatic-replies-in-gmail/

  • Minority TPS Report.
  • This is the best kind of software: one that gives an opaque authoritative answer that users are likely to just take on faith. Cheap; no quality control necessary.
  • you become, from worrying about retribution.

    you can see the trend clearly in the government and large corporations.

  • I trust The Computer! The Computer is my friend! I love The Computer!

    I've always thought that saying anything negative about my company, co-workers, etc, using company resources is a "violation" of my "professional ethics" anyway. When I'm on a job, I see myself as a professional IT worker, and don't discuss my personal feelings about anything at all via corporate email. My feelings towards the corp have little to do with system uptime, resolving hardware issues, etc. My feelings might be useful if I'm ta
    • > I trust The Computer! The Computer is my friend! I love The Computer!

      Oh yeah the good old RPG Paranoïa, loved this :)
  • "Joe, I'm really worried about my new puppy. I think he's smarter than his mom. I'm not sure if he's stealing food while she's around or if he's embezzling it behind her back.

    I don't think my kid's too happy that I made him get a job this summer. Last week I heard him say I loathe this job. I'm not sure if he's angry at me or angry at the fact that it's a minimum-wage job, but he seems pretty pissed off. Thankfully, he vents his stress at the local school, which is a lot better than going postal."

    Let's

  • Some people's emails are 100% clear where they are planning malfeasance. Others are talking with their doctor about their OCD medicine not working. But the best are where the same person will tell two or more people about the same situation but will tell it entirely differently. They will tell their boss one thing their underlings another, a co-manager another, and possibly a co-conspirator another thing again.

    It was my experience that the people who told the same "fact" multiple different ways were the most damaging to the company.

    So, while this system might be able to spot people clearly up to no good, I hope they use the ML stuff to correlate damage to certain behaviours. For instance micromanagement would easily be detectable in emails and is a great way to chase away some of the top talent. I would say that detecting that would be far better than detecting some employees who are looking for a new job. If anything a bunch of underlings continuously looking for new jobs would say more about their manager than about them as individuals.

    A secretary pilfering some money out of petty cash might cost the company a tiny amount like $100,000 per year. Losing a single top programmer to micromanagement could cost the company millions or more. Losing a stream of top programmers could literally cost the company everything.
  • The point of this is more to steer productivity as to prevent sabotage.
    It's a constant whip cracking over the heads of the spineless and gullible.

    "Anti-sabotage" is only an excuse really.

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  • All this will result in is people being more careful about how they word their emails. Even now it is an incredibly stupid thing to rant on corporate email - it gets recorded for posterity and can be used against you at appraisal time, or get you fired.

  • We had another article where another federal agency was looking for information much like this:

    https://yro.slashdot.org/story... [slashdot.org]

  • So you can sack the employees before they do anything wrong
  • Let's combat the symptom, not the cause. If people are unhappy with their work conditions, we must expunge them before they become a nuisance. Get back to work you drones.
  • Assuming y'all are stuck w/ Outlook at work, set your default to Rich Text. Then write a few lines of horrificness into your signature, and format them as white text.

    Nobody but the algorithm will see it.

    Yes, yes, I know that everyone who reads your mail as plaintext will too. It's just a dang joke, 'mkay?

  • This doesn't bother me at all. I'm sure that my employer would see that I have the complete confidence in management and enthusiasm for our mission.

  • I would love to see this run against the Linux mailing lists to see its assessment of Torvalds. That would have to be comedy gold.

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