Canada Federal Court Restrains Sale Of 'Pirate' Boxes (torrentfreak.com) 90
An anonymous reader writes:The Federal Court in Canada has handed down an interlocutory injunction against distributors of Android-based set-top boxes configured for piracy. The devices, which are loaded with software including Kodi (with pirate addons) and Showbox, are now banned from sale pending a full trial.Judge Daniele Tremblay-Lamer wrote in her order: "The devices marketed, sold and programmed by the Defendants enable consumers to obtain unauthorized access to content for which the Plaintiffs own the copyright. [...] They deliberately encourage consumers and potential clients to circumvent authorized ways of accessing content -- say, by a cable subscription or by streaming content from the Plaintiffs' websites -- both in the manner in which they promote their business, and by offering tutorials in how to add and use applications which rely on illegally obtained content."
Having just gotten in an S905 box today... (Score:5, Interesting)
Honestly, I'd prefer it if they just came set up with Kodi and no add-ons. Configuring Exodus or Spectro is simple enough and most of the add-ons I do not need pre-installed.
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Specto.
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If nobody pays for it, they're going to stop making it. When they stop making it, what are you going to pirate?
That is not true. Distribution companies actively block content that does not come through them, and limits or stops content coming from alternate distribution channels. For example, Megaupload provided a very good alternative distribution network.
People should only pay for first viewing of any content. The replay of content you already paid for is no different than remembering it in detail. We should not have to pay to refresh our memory of what we already experienced and paid for. We should not charge hum
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So using a product someone took the time, energy and money to produce and not paying them isn't a crime? I'm presuming your employer doesn't pay you for the work you do for them.
Most things I pirate are things I wouldn't have spent any hard earned cash for.
So it's your hard earned cash but not the guy who's trying to make their own hard earned cash you're stealing from. Nice to know you're the classic example of a hypocrite.
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Three words: Mickey Mouse Extension.
Ever since that one was signed into law, I've tried very hard to avoid ever paying for the items that benefited from this copyright. I pay for software (as needed). I never pay for music, movies or books unless I buy directly from the author to support him or her. Which is pretty rare.
Roll back copyright to something more reasonable and I'll start paying again.
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So you are happy fucking over an entire generation of authors or actors because of the work of some that came before?
I hope you are going without rather than pirating the content - if you are pirating, then my opinion of you is probably the same as your opinion of Disney.
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I rarely watch television or any series any more and if I do, it's probably a recorded one. Software is either open source or paid for.
However, I do download stuff from time to time and I don't feel bad about it. Especially music. Musicians are currently petitioning for harsher laws in the EU. They think that if you create a song that sounds remotely like another song, it entitles them to a share of the proceeds. They even managed to copyright silence. Basically, musicians seem to think they're entitled to
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You are missing something important.
I do not buy when copyright owners make money. But I will routinely go to the pawn shop where they sell used DVDs for a buck each.
Same as pirating only legal (you DO pay for internet access right?).
The dog in the manger (Score:2)
At what U.S. pawn shop can I buy a lawfully made DVD of Song of the South, Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night, or Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the Sea? If "nowhere", that's only because the law empowers copyright owners to act like the proverbial dog in the manger.
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If they have it when you show up, then any of them. I picked a pirates of the carribean movie disney last month for a buck. They did have little mermaid, but I bought that years ago.
But that's not the point. The point is the copyright holders didn't make a dime from me, and I get the movie legally.
Sure, they don't have the full catalog everyday, but patience, time and visiting goodwill and pawn shops and you'll eventually find it and more (like my laser disc copies of the first three star wars movies) .
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It was a trick question, as none of these were never released on DVD or Blu-ray in the United States. The Pinocchio sequel was VHS-only, and I've occasionally seen it in thrift shops. But the other two never got any U.S. home video release.
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Oh.
So they only left an option to pirate it.
But my point stands.
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> So you are happy fucking over an entire generation of authors or actors because of the work of some that came before?
It's more like... all they have is derivative trash and I already have the originals. Whether I buy or or whether I pirate it, it really doesn't matter. The fact that the back catalog is quite large means that I don't have to ever pay attention to the new stuff.
There is nothing "wrong" or "illegal" with that either.
Your attitude is the highest pinnacle of the entitlement mentality. It's
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>So using a product someone took the time, energy and money to produce and not paying them isn't a crime?
I often use toilets at Tim Horton's without buying anything. If you're Canadian, you probably have too.
Somehow, nobody has charged me with anything, nor even suggested I was a criminal.
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...That said, piracy has hit the movie industry so hard they had yet another record year in revenue...
Good point.. And you could say the same with the banks.. the economy is in so much trouble that the bankls, again, had record profits...
Seems to me, something just DOESN'T add up here... really......
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then I could have agreed with you. If the copy is not readable, then nobody can enjoy it.
Idiots is a strong word... (Score:3)
but yes, the purpose of these things seem to be to bring piracy to the masses who could never figure it out on their own.
Had someone at work brag about their box and all their content.
I think the key thing here isn't so much the box itself, it is the legitimacy of it. There are probably a big chunk of people who get these boxes and think it is completely legit. Now one can argue about the nuances of copyright infringement all day, however at best these things are dubiously legal. At least when someone does
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And the XBMC Foundation is trying its best to break this perceived association.
https://kodi.tv/the-piracy-box... [kodi.tv]
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Are you sure you meant to say that? Cause the flipside to that is a lot of people want to ban firearms - so your remark translates as ban all computing devices?
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It looks unlikely that he was having a pop at hammers, or even rifles. It is more likely that he was joking about an object with a fairly obvious purpose being marketed with a narrower purpose for the sake of having an angle.
Then you got a touch precious, thinking someone was taking your little rifle away or something.
I honestly see nothing wrong with this (Score:3, Interesting)
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Windows-based box would hang in a week if not infected before that.
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I think a Windows-based box would be able to remain running for at least long enough to start nagging you to upgrade to Windows 10!
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The problem is that people buy these mygica or similar android STB's and they install Kodi, a long with a lot of "free tv/movie" streaming apps, and then re-sell them as an alternative to cable TV.
Most of these tv/movie streaming apps are just front ends for torrent downloads.
The STB's themselves are not at issue, it's the people reselling them as torrenting streamers enabling copyright infringement.
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I stand with Kodi developers. (Score:5, Interesting)
As an avid Kodi user I know the developers of Kodi do not encourage piracy. They forbid the use of their name on any install that deviates from the defaults (sort of like the Firefox license) when offering a device for sale - you must fork. Plugins that make infringement easy aren't even allowed in the official repositories - all of those are in 3rd party repositories.
Kodi is a lot like a torrent or gnutella setup. Nothing wrong with it on it's own, in fact Window Media Center is one of the best closed source comparison products to come to mind, but it's an open source project without child safety locks, just like Linux and BSD are as a whole. The fact third party sellers about the product should not be used against the developers - ever.
Re:I stand with Kodi developers. (Score:4, Informative)
The Kodi developers hate those plugins, because they only work for a few months then break. And then the users come and flood the Kodi forums complaining about it.
The Pirate Boxes are killing Kodi [kodi.tv].
It's apparently getting so bad the Kodi dev team is considering quitting completely - they don't want to support this crap (especially since the pirate box sellers don't support them) and are forced to (i.e., Kodi is crap). So they're using legal avenues to do so - basically they've acquired a trademark so they can file trademark takedowns.
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I switched to XBMC from MythTV. I originally had a home-built DVR with some of my own files on it, but when the world went stupid, quit supporting NTSC and didn't actually switch to QAM I gave up on messing with it. XBMC was better when you took actual live TV out of the equation.
I am interested in a couple of legit plugins. For a while there was an Amazon video plugin that I used which was great, it worked with my paid Amazon Prime account, but it's useless now. I would like a Netflix plugin that worke
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Doh! Pirating stuff is easy I meant to say.
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after-all how many people would really download kodi with out that functionality?
Me for one. Most of my Kodi use centers on my own legitimately obtained collection. I do have a couple of legal streaming plugins - PBS, ABC, and many other channels have open API's for accessing certain content they put out there legally and developers have provided access to those API's in the form of plugins. I don't need pirate plugins.
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In this case, the defendants in question are ones who preload their boxes with plugins that specifically access copyright infringing content sources. There are other companies in Canada unaffected by the injunction because they were smart enough to just provide the basic Kodi and such pre-installed. The problem isn't that Kodi is preinstalled, it is the addon packages they pre-install. Basically the difference between providing copies of Chrome or Firefox, or providing the same in a package that preinstalls
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"developers of Kodi do not encourage piracy"
I had to chuckle when I read that statement on one of their main pages. Sure, Kodi does not officially encourage piracy, but their library scrapper is designed primarily to recognise scene releases, and not much else, and is setup to work best when pointed at a torrent directories.
Re: I stand with Kodi developers. (Score:1)
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Yeah, I name my stuff "Name from the Scrapper Site.year.m4v" and that works nearly all the time. Oddly it sill has some glitches with that, but rarely.
The fact I contribute to the scrapper and the fact I buy my disk legally makes me feel rather secure about my way of doing things.
I'm astonished it took this long (Score:3)
You can find someone selling these boxes in almost any low-rend strip mall around here, there's one up the street from me. The content is all ripped, and they sell a "service" consisting of lists of IP numbers for the latest streams. I'm surprised the networks didn't get on this ages ago. I'm not sure stopping the box sales will help, they'll have to stop sales of the content lists too.
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Despite the possibility that I may have engaged in youthful piracy myself, my blip on the radar is nothing like h
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" I often wonder if shows like Firefly or Stargate were cancelled due to the higher likelihood of piracy."
Not even close.
Firefly was cancelled because the network wanted a "Joss Whedon show" because of him being popular, but they didn't want an actual Joss Whedon show. For example, they rejected the pilot and wanted something with action and whiz-bang. Joss provided them with the second episode which they then aired as the first. This dislike of the show they were paying for only intensified as the season p
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C-11 is a Canadian law (Score:2)
For one thing, Canada has the digital locks bill [wikipedia.org], which is the same thing. For another, how may refugees from the DMCA is Canada willing to absorb?
Wasting time, but it's OK. (Score:3, Interesting)
While action like this is good legally, I can almost guarantee that it won't change much. I see cunning fellas sell boxes that are benign, so do not flout the order.
What will happen is buyers being pointed to a website, from which a script to autoconfigure the box can be [freely] obtained.
I applaud the judge nevertheless..
Authorized ways (Score:1)
circumvent authorized ways of accessing content
Sounds like freedom.
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This is exactly what copyright laws were made for (Score:3)
And why does this have a DMCA tag? The DMCA is a U.S. law, and this story is about a Canadian court decision.
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Shocking (Score:3)
I was rather shocked to see a YouTuber I had respected (Darbin Orvar) do a video shilling for one of these boxes and posting an Amazon referral link in her comment section. Considering she used to work at Facebook I figured she would be intelligent enough to realize the "free movies" including such recent films as "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" were nothing more than illegal streaming sites with an RSS feed or similar feeding the poorly designed Android app on the box. Suckers born every minute, I guess.
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Pun! (Score:2)
Judge Daniele Tremblay-Lamer's name makes a good pun in french: Judge Daniele "shake the sea"